Asked about his response to the suggestion that the NYT might print its last edition in 2015, Sulzberger said he saw no point in making such predictions and said all he could say was that "we will stop printing the New York Times sometime in the future, date TBD."

[CLARIFICATION: Sulzberger was not making an announcement that the New York Times has definite plans to stop printing in the near future; rather making the point, in a joking fashion, that it is impossible and fruitless to predict exactly when printed newspapers might come to an end.]

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Arthur Sulzberger on charging online: to succeed, we need to take risks

wow, 10's of people will be affected

/effected?

WTF am I going to line the bottom of my budgie's cage with?

Andrew Wiggin: wow, 10's of people will be affected

/effected?

"Affected" is correct.

I hope the paywall works out well for them and we can get back to the business of selling news.

oldebayer: WTF am I going to line the bottom of my budgie's cage with?

There's always the NY Post and the Wall Street Journal.

Not as early as predicted. In the book 2010: Odyssey 2, astronaut David Bowman's mom was in a hospital, and one of the few decorations was a framed copy of one of the last editions of the New York Times from a decade earlier describing her son's mission.

He's quite obviously wrong. The Times will publish in paper format in perpetuity. Even when every consumer is entirely comfortable with electronic delivery, the Times will continue buy newsprint and distribute it around the world through a vast and expensive printing and distribution network because that's the way it's been done for 125 years, so there's no way it could ever possibly be done differently.

there was an episode of Tosh.0 where he says we are going to torch an entire library. follows it up with an iPad running iBooks, lighter fluid, and a little spark from a zippo lighter. I found it quite entertaining.

They may cut back on how many copies they run, but they'll always be a print edition.

King Something: oldebayer: WTF am I going to line the bottom of my budgie's cage with?

There's always the NY Post and the Wall Street Journal.

For some reason, those always make my budgie constipated.

Eventually Paris Hilton will die. But not soon enough.

Look at this twisted anti-meme they are trying to push: "Information is less and less yearning to be free".

Sickening, Operation: Mindcrime stuff

NightOwl2255: Eventually Paris Hilton will die. But not soon enough.

one can only hope she ODs on her gum in the very near future

thornhill: They may cut back on how many copies they run, but they'll always be a print edition.

Or even number of pages, if they aren't already doing so.

News articles these days are as much about the discussion in the comments as the article itself. Sites like this started the ball rolling, but now all news sites are about collecting a multitude of voices. Once tablets become ubiquitous, sound the death knell for print.

Saw a show on modern surveyors locating lost "corners" in national parks. The corners were placed in the 1800s using these beautiful brass and chrome instruments in a small, well made wooden chest. The modern surveyors all used little plastic GPS units.

In another 500 years when the current civilization falls along with the satellites, and the next dark age is here, I wonder if any of that old mechanical technology will get rediscovered?

I saw a news piece that the OED has probably published their last hard-copy edition.

It sort of makes me want one but it is kind of big and expensive and my OUD still works just fine. It was published in the '50s (IIRC - to lazy to go over to the bookshelf and pick it up).

If I ever need to look up a word and my internet service is interrupted I'll be prepared though.

oldebayer: WTF am I going to line the bottom of my budgie's cage with?

Old iPads.

GuyCaballero: News articles these days are as much about the discussion in the comments as the article itself. Sites like this started the ball rolling, but now all news sites are about collecting a multitude of voices. Once tablets become ubiquitous, sound the death knell for print.

No, news articles are still about facts. Comments sections are about dickwads sitting at home expounding on issues they know little about. For evidence of this, you don't need to look much further than last night's thread on the San Bruno neighborhood explosion.

Stanfan114: In another 500 years when the current civilization falls along with the satellites, and the next dark age is here, I wonder if any of that old mechanical technology will get rediscovered?

To restart the legend of 'wizards' and once again people will get scared of it, and will gain too much faith in the boogieman, then the fairy tale people will assume control, and the whole cycle starts anew.

// Our whole fabric of being can be explained by "Oh look! Shiny thing!"

Don't be hatin' on T-Mobile. They sign my paycheck, sub-par-mitter

/words are powerful
//just ask Harriet Jones, former Prime Minister

I'm waiting for newspieces to have little disclaimers, like TV ads.

It's as if thousands of old voices yelled at a cloud and were suddenly silenced...

King Something: Andrew Wiggin: wow, 10's of people will be affected

/effected?

"Affected" is correct.

Affect is the verb (oddly enough, as the verb of 'word' is usually 'word')

And nobody anywhere cares. The end.

/Unless, of course, you just feel like whining.

Knucklepopper: GuyCaballero: News articles these days are as much about the discussion in the comments as the article itself. Sites like this started the ball rolling, but now all news sites are about collecting a multitude of voices. Once tablets become ubiquitous, sound the death knell for print.

No, news articles are still about facts. Comments sections are about dickwads sitting at home expounding on issues they know little about. For evidence of this, you don't need to look much further than last night's thread on the San Bruno neighborhood explosion.

While you're not wrong, I think any active Fark participant would have to at least acknowledge the original point as well, which is that the comments themselves are a draw whether they are factual or not. The "facts" I glean from them show an interesting (and sure, oftentimes depressing) perspective of how the masses respond to major events.

I guess maybe I just like the idea that every article can become an experiment in social psychology.

mud_shark: I saw a news piece that the OED has probably published their last hard-copy edition.

It sort of makes me want one but it is kind of big and expensive and my OUD still works just fine. It was published in the '50s (IIRC - to lazy to go over to the bookshelf and pick it up).

If I ever need to look up a word and my internet service is interrupted I'll be prepared though.

Sounds like you have the concise version (one big volume). The full OED is the size of an encyclopedia, and yes, it's probably done for in hard copy.

thornhill: They may cut back on how many copies they run, but they'll always be a print edition.

Always? Really?

How naive. Always is a long time.

TheDirtyNacho: Sounds like you have the concise version (one big volume). The full OED is the size of an encyclopedia, and yes, it's probably done for in hard copy.

Note I said I had an OUD - that wasn't a typo.

The story did say the OED it was $1290, 130 pounds and a bunch of volumes.

My copy of the OUD is about 4 inches thick.

mud_shark: TheDirtyNacho: Sounds like you have the concise version (one big volume). The full OED is the size of an encyclopedia, and yes, it's probably done for in hard copy.

Note I said I had an OUD - that wasn't a typo.

The story did say the OED it was $1290, 130 pounds and a bunch of volumes.

My copy of the OUD is about 4 inches thick.

Did it hurt when they put it in? My girlfriend's thinking of doing that, too.

In the book "The Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson, in the future, newspapers are only attainable by the very well-to-do.
Cool stuff.

limeybrit9: Knucklepopper: GuyCaballero: News articles these days are as much about the discussion in the comments as the article itself. Sites like this started the ball rolling, but now all news sites are about collecting a multitude of voices. Once tablets become ubiquitous, sound the death knell for print.

No, news articles are still about facts. Comments sections are about dickwads sitting at home expounding on issues they know little about. For evidence of this, you don't need to look much further than last night's thread on the San Bruno neighborhood explosion.

While you're not wrong, I think any active Fark participant would have to at least acknowledge the original point as well, which is that the comments themselves are a draw whether they are factual or not. The "facts" I glean from them show an interesting (and sure, oftentimes depressing) perspective of how the masses respond to major events.

I guess maybe I just like the idea that every article can become an experiment in social psychology.

Much of that is based off personal opinion and very little of that has anything to do with knowledge or even fact. Comments are amusing to read, but let's face it, the most amusing ones are the ones that are wildly wrong.

SKMO: thornhill: They may cut back on how many copies they run, but they'll always be a print edition.

Always? Really?

How naive. Always is a long time.

Yes, always. One simple reason: there will always be market for things to read in waiting rooms.

It's naive to assume that eventually everyone will own e-readers of some kind and that everyone will prefer them over print.

Crosshair: Stanfan114: Saw a show on modern surveyors locating lost "corners" in national parks. The corners were placed in the 1800s using these beautiful brass and chrome instruments in a small, well made wooden chest. The modern surveyors all used little plastic GPS units.

I think you mean a "benchmark".

My dad is a surveyor and loves all the new tech. Yea the old brass instruments are nice to look at, but they are time consuming as hell to use and very fragile. Took a day to do what he can do now in a matter of minutes.

Try applying the same romanticism to 19th century surgeons tools, suddenly you see it for what it is. Something neat to look at, but something you're thankful that nobody has to actually use anymore.

Ah. They were calling them "corners" in the show, but I came in half way. Apparently many of the 19th century surveyors did not do their jobs well.

And they are fun to looks at.

thornhill: SKMO: thornhill: They may cut back on how many copies they run, but they'll always be a print edition.

Always? Really?

How naive. Always is a long time.

Yes, always. One simple reason: there will always be market for things to read in waiting rooms.

It's naive to assume that eventually everyone will own e-readers of some kind and that everyone will prefer them over print.

Evenually e-readers will be images projected directly before your eyeball (or to your brain,) paper is a quaint novelty.

oldebayer: WTF am I going to line the bottom of my budgie's cage with?

Why would you subject your poor bird to such transparent, hateful propaganda? Even his little bird brain (what's left of it after beating his head against the cage in an effort to either get out, commit suicide, or having been melted by reading the propaganda) knows this is far worse then waterboarding.

Why do you hate your own bird so much?

thornhill: It's naive to assume that eventually everyone will own e-readers of some kind and that everyone will prefer them over print.

It's naive to assume that eventually everyone will own telephones of some kind and that everyone will prefer them over telegram.

Technology. It works, biatches.

Who cares?

/hands off my WSJ

What's this guy gonna do?

King Something: oldebayer: WTF am I going to line the bottom of my budgie's cage with?

There's always the NY Post and the Wall Street Journal.

Not worth it to buy something from Murdoch.