what_now: So, I RTFA, and my first thought was, "Man, I'm really disappointed that the author felt he had to tell us that this wasn't a free speech issue because the Constitution protects us from government intervention, it doesn't say that a private entity must sell us the right to broadcast our speech."

Then I read this:

jehovahs witness protection: Selective freedom of speech. No matter how farked up these people are, they still have the right to say stupid things.

Goddamnitsomuch, you're pretty stupid.

What was it they said when the Dixie Chicks got blasted by country music fans? "You have the right to Free Speech, but you don't have the right to be free from the consequences of your speech."

The jwp PWNAGE in this thread is impressive.

The ISP has every bit as much of a free speech right as the dumbasses from the church.

/ adding to the dogpile on JWP's stupid, stupid post.

jehovahs witness protection: Selective freedom of speech. No matter how farked up these people are, they still have the right to say stupid things.

Came to see who would be the first to show their lack of understanding of the first amendment. Over in one

Goodgame, gentlemen.

tnpir: The jwp PWNAGE in this thread is impressive.

Yeah, it's completely farking awesome when a a thread gets launched with a great big turd, and it gets the attention it was intended to get.

jehovahs witness protection: Selective freedom of speech. No matter how farked up these people are, they still have the right to say stupid things.

Until you understand what freedom of speech is, in the context of the US Constitution, maybe you should refrain from weighing in on it.

In fact the article itself addresses this issue.

What good is free speech if you can't use it?

Government needs to do something about all these commie businesses.

They should just get hosting with Wikileaks and Pirate Bay.

tnpir: The jwp PWNAGE in this thread is impressive.


The level of a$$hole in this thread is pretty impressive, too.


\You'd think that jwp had just pinched a loaf on what_now's mom's face.
\\I know -- "Welcome to Fark!"

Good for the ISP. Private entities don't have to put up with this nonsense.

I do find a lot of Jihad speech to be hate speech.

I do not support burning a Quran or killing the Infidels.

However, I will say I find the burning of a book to be less hateful than the killing of a person.

I find the talking of the burning of a book to be even less hateful.

jehovahs witness protection: Selective freedom of speech. No matter how farked up these people are, they still have the right to say stupid things.

So I can say anything I want about you and Fark won't ban me? Ya right. There are limits to all "Freedoms".

Well, this thread's discussion topic seems to have been resolved pretty quickly.

Can it now turn into a redhead thread?

I agree... That church seems pretty intent on using more hate speech and I also agree that the ISP has no obligation to assist them in the propagation of said hate speech.

My question is... why on Earth do they think they're going to attract new support to their Church by trying to tell guys that getting head from a girl before you marry her is wrong? How else are you going to find out if she gives good head before you marry her?

Madbassist1: Imam - 'I'm going to build a mosque at ground zero'

Opposition - 'That's insensitive, a real dumbass move. You should move it'

FARK - ' STFU, opposition, they have a right!!!'

Pastor - 'I'm going to burn the Quran as a way of protesting the way we cower before extremeism'

Opposition - 'That's insensitive, a real dumbass move. You should reconsider'

FARK - 'OMG the poastor is such an asshole! I can't believe he would insult the Religion of Peace® in such an idiotic way.'


When you consider that the Imam practically said if he doesn't get his way, there will be retalitory action from extremists. This is FUBAR people...

I prefer to correlate this incident with PepsiCo deciding to discontinue Pepsi Clear.

Bastages.

AmericanGrizzly: There are limits to all "Freedoms".

Not really dude. You CAN say whatever you want about jwp. That is your right.

It is fark's right to ban you for it.

/You'll get over it.

The weird symmatry between the Mosque situation and the Koran burnination situation seems almost perfect.

PC LOAD LETTER: If I was running an ISP, my rule would be no "high-risk hosting". That means no porn

I think I see the flaw in you business model.

Bob_Laublaw: Well, this thread's discussion topic seems to have been resolved pretty quickly.

Can it now turn into a redhead thread?

If we could only somehow apply this to any of our war efforts. Or *any* disagreement, for that matter.

\Awesome suggestion!

JohnnyC: My question is... why on Earth do they think they're going to attract new support to their Church by trying to tell guys that getting head from a girl before you marry her is wrong? How else are you going to find out if she gives good head before you marry her?

It won't matter after the wedding anyway. You sound single.

I_Am_Weasel: Wow. Boobies.

My guess is someone already quoted this further down the page.

A web host is not an Internet Service Provider.

Why are people making such a big deal about this? The guy is a total attention whore.

Who cares if he burns a book? Can I join him in saying that Islam is a farked up religion that promotes oppression of women, religious warfare and hatred of bacon. I would like to add on my own accord that Christianity, Shinto, Buddhism, Skihism, Scientology and ever other religion ever made up or that will ever be made up by humans is farked up. Burn em all, and I'll bring the marshmellows.

1. This asshole should burn the Quran.
2. The mosque should be placed near Ground Zero.
3. The ISP is well within its rights.

All of these things fall within the protection of the First Amendment.

What scares me, however, is that you've got the President, top officials in both the State Department, Department of Justice, and the military, coming down on this little pissant so-called holy man because he wants to exercise his right to free speech under the Constitution. Don't they have more important things to worry about? I mean come on, that's giving Pastor Jones *EXACTLY* what he wants: Free publicity for him and his church.

And sending FBI agents to talk to him? If that doesn't scare you, it should. Maybe they were there to inform him of specific threats against him, which I suppose would be OK, but I think it's also likely that they were at least partly there to pressure him into not burning the Quran.

He better not fark up the USF-UF game tomorrow.

Madbassist1: When you consider that the Imam practically said

I like how you said, "practically"... it shows that you know for a fact that he didn't say what you claim, but you're going to go ahead and claim he "practically" did anyway.

Here... let me try:

You practically threatened to rape someone until they were unrecognizable... that's deplorable!!

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OH I see how fun that is now! You FARKING PERV!

Flakeloaf: A web host is not an Internet Service Provider.

Huh. I'm embarrassed I didn't notice that glaring error before. Nicely done.

fireclown: It won't matter after the wedding anyway. You sound single.

Nope... not single.

jehovahs witness protection: Selective freedom of speech. No matter how farked up these people are, they still have the right to say stupid things.

True. You have the constitutional right to say stupid shiat. I see you exercising your rights today.


However hate speech is not protected.
Thats the difference.

Madbassist1
Imam - 'I'm going to build a mosque at ground zero'

Let me stop your derp there.

1. It's not at ground zero. There is a mosque closer and it has been there for years.
2. It's not a mosque, it's a community center.
3. A lot of people including Republicans were perfectly fine with this whole thing until some right wing nutjob started ranting.

Other than that, you've got a point.

cybrwzrd: Burn em all, and I'll bring the marshmellows.

Dude, the ink can contain heavy metals that are toxic. Don't eat the marshmallows if you toast them over any burning printed material.

Madbassist1: Imam - 'I'm going to build a mosque at ground zero'

Opposition - 'That's insensitive, a real dumbass move. You should move it'

FARK - ' STFU, opposition, they have a right!!!'

Pastor - 'I'm going to burn the Quran as a way of protesting the way we cower before extremeism'

Opposition - 'That's insensitive, a real dumbass move. You should reconsider'

FARK - 'OMG the poastor is such an asshole! I can't believe he would insult the Religion of Peace® in such an idiotic way.'


When you consider that the Imam practically said if he doesn't get his way, there will be retalitory action from extremists. This is FUBAR people...

I haven't seen so many levels of fail reached with just one post.

Congrats.

So.....a hosting site can use vague terms in its contract regarding "hate speech", and then can broadly define the term to selectively enforce it. A sharp lawyer could have a good time with this.