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(Some Gal) Obvious Snowflake realizes that spending $40k a year on gender studies was a mistake   (thefrisky.com) divider line 483
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2010-09-09 10:50:13 AM
"I regret that I wasted time, money, and precious sanity on a required math class that gave me the anxiety attacks of your worst nightmares."

Based upon this line, I guess she still doesn't entirely get it. But math is hard and useless, right? Absolutely

Infamous Dr. X: OH MY GOD. QUIT FARKING WHINING.

Christ, you took journalism classes as well as majored in something that forced you to critically analyze quantitative and qualitative data, draw conclusions from that analysis, and process that into some kind of meaningful written form in order to convince your professors that you could 1) conduct research 2) perform analysis and 3) cogently report on that analysis.

The only difference between doing that in college and doing that in the real world is that your research, analysis, and conclusions have dollar amounts riding on them and you generally have less time to produce your work product.

Quit whining and do what all writing-heavy lib arts majors can and should do - get a freaking entry level office job. You have a skill set MANY people in business sorely lack.* People who can write, and do it well, can find themselves reasonably successful reasonably quickly.


This. My first degree was in English and the skills I learned have been invaluable for my career. I suppose it also helps if you also bring other skill sets to the table (basic accounting, math, science, how to use computer programs, etc). In my experience, even knowing how to write simple to moderate formulas in Excel (or knowing how to Google it) can be a rare trait in an office.
 
2010-09-09 10:50:15 AM
What in the world do they learn in gender studies?

i know what gender I am. Checking.....yup, still a girl.
 
2010-09-09 10:50:25 AM
basemetal: Yeah, well welcome to the real world. *slap*

beezoblog.com
 
2010-09-09 10:50:38 AM
PainInTheASP: My high school guidance counsellor told me to pick my career with my heart and not my head.

I am really glad I didn't listen to her.


Why would you take career advice from someone who works as a guidance counselor?
 
2010-09-09 10:50:50 AM
Okay my take on this whiny little coonty is that she assumed she would get more character out of the classes and she's clearly still a loser who has little or nothing to add to conversations and so the only thing she can contribute is what a waste of time certain courses were at college. Get a farking life you whiny little biatch!
 
2010-09-09 10:51:08 AM
Yeah, it's sad you wasted $40k a year on something so overpriced and useless.

Oh, and yes, I actually would like fries with that as a matter of fact. Thanks.
 
2010-09-09 10:51:15 AM
Summer Glau's Love Slave: What's Gender Studies?

/Seriously
//I know it has something to do with sensitivity and broads


Skirts don't like it when you call them broads.
 
2010-09-09 10:51:31 AM
Here's all women need to know about men:

Men created civilization and we can take it away too.
 
2010-09-09 10:51:44 AM
Ironman = hero
Ironwoman = command
 
2010-09-09 10:52:18 AM
Man I'm in a fog. I gotta quit drinking late at night. Anyway, I wanted to say something about learning to do what you want to do and having to learn skills that pay the bills. The wife studied Russian at an Ivy League school; now she's a system administrator and keeps the computers working at her job. Had a sister that got an education degree, then got into a real classroom and found out it was a poor fit. She was in sales for quite a while. This list could go on and on. People who are young and naive start their education going for their passion and end up either jobless or headed back to school to learn something that will pay the mortgage.
 
2010-09-09 10:52:27 AM
Wow she regrets the classes needed to make her a Liberal? You mean it wasn't worth the money to be able to be snooty and sit there and whine all the time?

I feel bad that she never made her full whine potental... shes got something there...
 
2010-09-09 10:52:38 AM
Rapmaster2000: You don't need to pay someone to teach you to hate men. I can teach you to hate men for free.

This one got a laugh; thanks for that.

TheBlackrose: Forty grand for a Gender Studies degree? I hope there was a lot of "studying" involved.

Per year, that is. $160K total. Wow.

What I like is that she posts in this blog, "I regret that I took two different photography classes, but haven't snapped a single freakin' photo since." And yet, she misses the opportunity to take a picture to go with the post... they used an iStock photo of "gloomy college co-ed." Ha!

Then she laments taking ONE, REQUIRED math class. Honey, if Gender Studies requires one math class, everything requires that class. I'm sorry those symbols and Greek letters scared you.
 
2010-09-09 10:52:44 AM
Rapmaster2000 Quote 2010-09-09 10:51:15 AM


Skirts don't like it when you call them broads.


Frisky bints don't like it when you call them skirts.
 
2010-09-09 10:52:49 AM
Ha.

Somehow I never connected the dots between "students of gender studies" and "people who seek employment in the field of gender studies".

As obnoxious as gender studies students are, this thought amuses me greatly :-D

Tell me again, how *I* - a female programmer - am part of the problem, and how the tampon is not a specifically female product. Or better yet, shut up and give me fries with that.
 
2010-09-09 10:53:17 AM
Meh. Still has a degree from NYU.
 
2010-09-09 10:53:30 AM
xaldin: .

Or the desperate guys.
 
2010-09-09 10:53:35 AM
Recoil Therapy: I had a friend who went to a just under Ivy League level school (big $ with very little in aid other than loans) & got a degree in 'Nonviolent Conflict Resolution'. She spent five years scuttling around campus being very earnest about silly things & driving (well riding, she didn't own a car) all over the eastern seaboard to get to any demonstration she could (on the plus side she had great connections for good quality pot). Fast forward 10+ years & the last I heard was that she was working for just over minimum wage as a librarian in a private elementary school and planning on moving back in with her mother as she just couldn't afford to live on her own any longer (as a spectacular ironic bonus she was also working out some trouble with the law after bashing her boyfriend in the face with a frying pan during a fight).

If you really want to learn things like that, figure out a way to do it cheaply. Just yesterday I found links to podcasts or YouTube links of hundreds of lectures/classes from places such as Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc in the area of history (what I was looking for at the time). No it doesn't have the same impact as being in the classroom with the give & take interaction with the teacher and other students. However it also costs nothing but a bit of time and a tiny bit of electric current. Educating yourself doesn't always require an expensive degree, but if you're going to get one at least make it of a marketable subject. Save the somewhat goofy things for coffee house discussions or audit for fun classes when you have the time.


We should all aspire to live boring suburbanite lifestyles.
 
2010-09-09 10:53:40 AM
Summer Glau's Love Slave: What's Gender Studies?

/Seriously
//I know it has something to do with sensitivity and broads


It's a more neutral way of saying "Women's Studies" major.
 
2010-09-09 10:53:51 AM
Once had my old boss shout at me "YOU HAVE A DEGREE?! DID YOU MAJOR IN DUMBASS AND MINOR IN WOMEN'S STUDIES?!!!"

He's probably retired or unemployed as we speak.
 
2010-09-09 10:53:56 AM
The history of prostitution class taught me about sex work,...

Well there you go, something to fall back on when times get tough.
 
2010-09-09 10:54:51 AM
WTF is gender studies?
 
2010-09-09 10:55:10 AM
While gender studies is a jokey degree, you can still be successful with it. If you plan to make a career out of gender studies, prepare to be dissapointed, but if you use it as a segway to graduate school, the alternative degree may provide a good way to distinguish yourself from all the other candidates.

Law schools and business schools are certainly conscious of gender studies as both graduate degrees have niches for work in gender-focused fields (employment/discrimination law, family law, etc)

While I wouldn't major in it, I don't think its a complete waste, especially if received from a top-notch school.

If you go $50,000 in debt to get a gender studies degree from a mediocre public school and hope to make it on that alone, well, I'm sorry but you probably deserve what you're going to get.

/Graduated from Stanford with two humanities degrees
//Law school now, who cares what studied in undergrad?
 
2010-09-09 10:55:31 AM
From the comments:

"I completely disagree-- I was a gender studies minor and employers are always impressed by this, as well as the fact that I can always make great dinner conversation! Everything in the world is affected by our perspectives and opinions on gender and sexuality- these classes opened my eyes to how much I had limited myself and my power over the years! You can't put a price on that!"

heh, nice troll.

/subby
 
2010-09-09 10:55:51 AM
I did learn stuff, of course: The history of prostitution class taught me about sex work

Hey, there's still a way to make this degree work for you. Just sayin'.
 
2010-09-09 10:56:10 AM
College is not a vocational school, and you do not have to be enrolled in classes to learn stuff. And if you want to study something you love but don't want to be broke down the road, take a minor or a double major in the subject you love.

Guidance counselors need to be replaced by the Occupational Outlook Handbook. (new window)
 
2010-09-09 10:56:12 AM
She shouldnt fret.

Her education is reasonably well rounded enough (could have used some hard science though) and there's little chance of her embarrassing herself or her husband at social functions.
 
2010-09-09 10:56:28 AM
Heh.

a.imageshack.us
 
2010-09-09 10:56:40 AM
danny_kay:


Tell me again, how *I* - a female programmer - am part of the problem, and how the tampon is not a specifically female product. Or better yet, shut up and give me fries with that.


Clearly, you have never had a broken nose.
 
2010-09-09 10:56:50 AM
factoryconnection: I'm sorry those symbols and Greek letters scared you.

I'm guessing math for liberal arts didn't get to the parts with Greek letters. Maybe π, but that's probably it.
 
2010-09-09 10:56:50 AM
danny_kay: and how the tampon is not a specifically female product.

You can put a tampon in the barrel of your shotgun when you're walking through marsh to keep water out of it. A condom also works.

I knew someone who took a lot of gender studies courses in college.Shes now working as a whore in the UK, Humiliating fat balding men.

/at least she parlayed her only skill (being an enormous coont) into something that makes her money.
 
2010-09-09 10:56:58 AM
save russian jews: Once had my old boss shout at me "YOU HAVE A DEGREE?! DID YOU MAJOR IN DUMBASS AND MINOR IN WOMEN'S STUDIES?!!!"

4.bp.blogspot.com
Approves
 
2010-09-09 10:57:11 AM
I don't want to go to college and waste my time and money. At some point I will but when I have some real life experience and the drive to really pursue an education
 
2010-09-09 10:57:23 AM
sonarbison: As for spending big bucks on a college education, it just doesn't make sense to me. Is it really that much better than going to a state school?

i have mixed feelings on that- the education is better. with larger endowments you do get better equipment, facilities, smaller classes, more direct time with the profs, ostensibly better teachers, etc, etc. I'm not however sure its really so much better as to justify the price you have to pay these days. if all that stuff above makes private 30% better, but costs 75% more, is it really worth it?
 
2010-09-09 10:57:36 AM
TomD9938: She shouldnt fret.

Her education is reasonably well rounded enough (could have used some hard science though) and there's little chance of her embarrassing herself or her husband at social functions.


Yeah, She probably wont fall off the stripper pole
 
2010-09-09 10:57:57 AM
sonarbison: Ridiculing liberals arts majors sure is popular on here. I know quite a few examples of liberal arts majors who went on to have well-paying, satisfying careers, as many of them were pre-law, pre-med or pre-something. Also, sometimes having a degree is just to check a box, and relevant work experience is all that really matters. For example, I know a guy who got a degree in sociology, but now runs a construction company.

I'm making fun of a moron, that just happened to choose a go-nowhere major. Her writing isn't even particularly good. She isn't pre-anything... certainly not medicine with her boat-anchor math skills.

At least she finally recognized her mistake, $160K later.
 
2010-09-09 10:57:59 AM
I thought college was inherently a gender studies experience.
 
2010-09-09 10:58:19 AM
StrikitRich: The history of prostitution class taught me about sex work,...

Well there you go, something to fall back on when times get tough.


on her back.
 
2010-09-09 10:58:29 AM
VideSupra: //Law school now, who cares what studied in undergrad?

Its sad when the only way to be job viable is to get a extra degree on top of your undergrad. It makes me feel terrible to see all my coworkers who are struggling to get associates and GED's thinking those papers will open the door to something beyond retail.
 
2010-09-09 10:58:32 AM
PainInTheASP: My high school guidance counsellor told me to pick my career with my heart and not my head.

I am really glad I didn't listen to her.


This. So hard.
 
2010-09-09 10:59:10 AM
she should have taken a class on not using a really hard font to read for so much text.
 
2010-09-09 10:59:13 AM
Off the main page of that site there is a link to college girl sex stories. It kind of made reading the BS Article worth it.
 
2010-09-09 10:59:31 AM
And yet the kids that get into tech schools are the "morons" who are getting fleeced.
 
2010-09-09 10:59:51 AM
If you're going to get a useless degree, do it cheaply. If you're going to college to get a husband, you better find him before the student loans are due.

If you got a useless degree but now have a job in an unrelated field, congratulations. Welcome to the scam that is college.
 
2010-09-09 10:59:57 AM
VideSupra: While gender studies is a jokey degree, you can still be successful with it. If you plan to make a career out of gender studies, prepare to be dissapointed, but if you use it as a segway to graduate school, the alternative degree may provide a good way to distinguish yourself from all the other candidates.

Law schools and business schools are certainly conscious of gender studies as both graduate degrees have niches for work in gender-focused fields (employment/discrimination law, family law, etc)

While I wouldn't major in it, I don't think its a complete waste, especially if received from a top-notch school.

If you go $50,000 in debt to get a gender studies degree from a mediocre public school and hope to make it on that alone, well, I'm sorry but you probably deserve what you're going to get.

/Graduated from Stanford with two humanities degrees
//Law school now, who cares what studied in undergrad?


WTF does Paul Blart have to do with anything?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-09-09 11:00:40 AM
I regret that I wasted time, money, and precious sanity on a required math class that gave me the anxiety attacks of your worst nightmares.

Gender Studies Barbie says math is hard. So if 2001 was when you graduated and that means you're turning 30. Well you better get out and hustle them sweet cheeks, the high paying johns like the young ones. Hopefully somewhere along the way you took some dance classes, maybe not with a pole but that's a skill that can be learned too. Maybe you can find some business major or engineering type that will help you pay off the loans, $20 lapdance by $50 blowjob at a time. Have fun in the champagne room.
 
2010-09-09 11:02:27 AM
bv2112: College is not a vocational school, and you do not have to be enrolled in classes to learn stuff.

This. A university is supposed to be a place of higher learning, where the capable go to study, learn, research and discuss the topics that fascinate them.

What it has become is a semi-mandatory form of financial hazing where the "capable" students are the trained seals who can pass standardized tests go to plow through reams of paperwork, buy professors' books, slave to please the TAs who slave to please the administration and somehow end it all with a piece of paper that says they may have at one point known something about Arts or Sciences or somesuch. This piece of paper can then be waved over one's head like a talisman to ward off the evil Human Resources Troll.
 
2010-09-09 11:02:36 AM
LT L: I'm guessing math for liberal arts didn't get to the parts with Greek letters. Maybe π, but that's probably it.

I used to love math, but I still love pie. It is a toss-up between Tollhouse Cookie Pie and Pecan Pie as the favorite. Actually, now that I'm far-removed from the math courses taught by humorless Chinese in my engineering track, I actually really like math again.

But mostly pie.
 
2010-09-09 11:02:48 AM
OscarTamerz: Have fun in the champagne room.

Dude, there is no sex in the Campaign room

/none
//sweet sweet nostalgia
 
2010-09-09 11:02:56 AM
Your Favorite Token Black Chick: VideSupra: //Law school now, who cares what studied in undergrad?

Its sad when the only way to be job viable is to get a extra degree on top of your undergrad. It makes me feel terrible to see all my coworkers who are struggling to get associates and GED's thinking those papers will open the door to something beyond retail.


Again, it depends on your major (or associates). I went humanities because I knew I was going to graduate school straight out of college. I knew what I wanted to do long before I walked in the doors as a freshman (I understand I'm the exception). I changed my majors around somewhat in undergrad, but they were always majors that interested me but were fairly unemployable outside of very specific fields (International Relations and Communication/Media Studies/Journalism).

Besides, in reality, its all about networking and connections. The eight letters that constitute my undergraduate university's name have gotten me more interviews than anything else, so in some sense you do get what you pay for, especially once you break into the top 5-10 schools.
 
2010-09-09 11:03:02 AM
I did learn stuff, of course: The history of prostitution class taught me about sex work, the grassroots organizing class educated me about labor abuse, and the pop culture class exposed me to the work of Anna Deavere Smith, who wrote a one-woman play about the riots. I can say it was all interesting.

Good for you. I learned all that by reading "The Jungle" and "The Handmaiden's Tale", and by watching "Monster" and a re-runs of "The West Wing".

My BA- International relations with a focus on Security Studies and Russian/US foreign relations, has earned me $1.

That was when someone bet me I couldn't name all 15 countries the Soviet Union split into.

I'm not biatching though- HAVING a BA got me my career. Didn't matter what it was in.
 
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