Hearts and minds or fingers. Take your pick.

Smokey the Bare: An article about the troops and no hero tag?

/way to go subtard

That'll come with the story that the charges have been dropped.

My fellow troops are killing civilians for sport and smoking hashish...I think I'll tell on them for smoking hashish.

you are a puppet: My fellow troops are killing civilians for sport and smoking hashish...I think I'll tell on them for smoking hashish.

But only because they did so in my bunk.

Meh, they just took the lawbringer perk. That means their actions were completely justified, because if those Afghans weren't evil they wouldn't have dropped fingers.

/Yes I have a problem
//Yes I'm eagerly awaiting New Vegas

yukichigai: Meh, they just took the lawbringer perk. That means their actions were completely justified, because if those Afghans weren't evil they wouldn't have dropped fingers.

/Yes I have a problem
//Yes I'm eagerly awaiting New Vegas

I doubt they will get a karmic bonus though.

The enemy can not press a button if you have disabled his hand.

yukichigai: Meh, they just took the lawbringer perk. That means their actions were completely justified, because if those Afghans weren't evil they wouldn't have dropped fingers.

/Yes I have a problem
//Yes I'm eagerly awaiting New Vegas

approves!

Everyone knows that an ear necklace is the way to go.

The Malazan Fourteenth Army approves

/also approves
//awful story but a nice segue for geeky references

evilotto: /also approves
//awful story but a nice segue for geeky references

That would be... just fine.

/Coincidentally, Liam Neeson was in both of those.

Guy on the left is culpable. I can tell by just looking at him.

That said, we're training 19y.o.s to kill people. Isn't the skull still solidifying at this age? That can't be good for development. Not surprised that some are processing it as sport, especially since many are poor white trash.

jiaxiaobo: Guy on the left is culpable. I can tell by just looking at him.

That said, we're training 19y.o.s to kill people. Isn't the skull still solidifying at this age? That can't be good for development. Not surprised that some are processing it as sport, especially since many are poor white trash.

Psychopaths are clever farkers. How many manipulate the screening processes and end up in a war zone?

unless you have seen war then you cannot understand this story.

jiaxiaobo: Guy on the left is culpable. I can tell by just looking at him.

That said, we're training 19y.o.s to kill people. Isn't the skull still solidifying at this age? That can't be good for development. Not surprised that some are processing it as sport, especially since many are poor white trash.

I love my brothers out there. It is really Hell thrown upon young guys with a lot to prove.
For farks sake guys, if any of this is true.. I pray for you.

/not religious
//we de-humanize our boys out there--it's what is required. This is lack of control, training, and the command should fall first -- if true.

BesiktasBoy83: unless you have seen war then you cannot understand this story.

The truly sorry part of BesiktasBoy83's stupidity is that he thinks he means it.

Congratulations, you're all psychopathic serial murderers.

BesiktasBoy83: unless you have seen war then you cannot understand this story.

I understand the story just fine, dude. I can read.

Bet you won't see this on Fox News, cause according to them every poor, uneducated young man that puts on a costume, and is given a gun with a license to kill is a gentlemen and a hero.

Surprise no one talks about the rate at which these monsters come back home to become extremely violent criminals.

BesiktasBoy83: unless you have seen war then you cannot understand this story.

There are few words with more than 3 syllables. I'm not sure how combat training would have made it any easier for me to understand.

RayD8: jiaxiaobo: Guy on the left is culpable. I can tell by just looking at him.

That said, we're training 19y.o.s to kill people. Isn't the skull still solidifying at this age? That can't be good for development. Not surprised that some are processing it as sport, especially since many are poor white trash.

Psychopaths are clever farkers. How many manipulate the screening processes and end up in a war zone?

Really, a few.
For them all to end up in the same command, under a CO that would encourage this shiat...not very likely.
As much as the military trains...(they do their job well) they do work to weed out the psychos.

/in our volunteer military, the idea is a non-repeat of Vietnam.

pippi longstocking: Surprise no one talks about the rate at which these monsters come back home to become extremely violent criminals.

What rate?

I am not saying to forgive or say it is OK but unless you have seen the world these men are asked to enter then you cannot truly understand they're motivation or actions.
If you have not worn the uniform you have less right to judge, this is just a fact.

funmonger: pippi longstocking: Surprise no one talks about the rate at which these monsters come back home to become extremely violent criminals.

What rate?

3.14:1 (the dreaded pi rate)

BesiktasBoy83: If you have not worn the uniform you have less right to judge, this is just a fact.

Actually, no. That's not a fact, at all. In fact, pun intended, it's a pretty dumb farking thing to say.

Knucklepopper: BesiktasBoy83: If you have not worn the uniform you have less right to judge, this is just a fact.

Actually, no. That's not a fact, at all. In fact, pun intended, it's a pretty dumb farking thing to say.

Great argument. Not.

BesiktasBoy83: unless you have seen war then you cannot understand this story.

It looks like warcrime to me. Guarding poppy fields and putting Aks beside dead bodies to justify murder. Murder for fun.

NicoFinn: Everybody Ignore The Troll

Yeah, 'cuz that's gonna happen.

funmonger: pippi longstocking: Surprise no one talks about the rate at which these monsters come back home to become extremely violent criminals.

What rate?

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,158912,00.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kaj-larsen/for-returning-soldiers-is_b_636579.htm l
http://www.gazette.com/articles/iframe-59065-eastridge-audio.html

and so on.

Hell you'll find thousands by googling returning soldiers crime.

BesiktasBoy83: Knucklepopper: BesiktasBoy83: If you have not worn the uniform you have less right to judge, this is just a fact.

Actually, no. That's not a fact, at all. In fact, pun intended, it's a pretty dumb farking thing to say.

Great argument. Not.

Was there anything else I needed to address there? Because other than this sweepingly awkward statement about how "we mustn't judge unless we've worn the uniform," your argument was pretty simplistic.

Intelligentile: BesiktasBoy83: unless you have seen war then you cannot understand this story.

It looks like warcrime to me. Guarding poppy fields and putting Aks beside dead bodies to justify murder. Murder for fun.

So that is a fact and has been before the court? Thats not justice.
@Nicofinn- assuming you are talking about me how about you even try to argue about what I have said.
If you have not seen war you cannot understand it. You might think you know it but until you see the true reality then you are not part of it. If making that says I am a troll then I'm a troll.

Knucklepopper: BesiktasBoy83: Knucklepopper: BesiktasBoy83: If you have not worn the uniform you have less right to judge, this is just a fact.

Actually, no. That's not a fact, at all. In fact, pun intended, it's a pretty dumb farking thing to say.

Great argument. Not.

Was there anything else I needed to address there? Because other than this sweepingly awkward statement about how "we mustn't judge unless we've worn the uniform," your argument was pretty simplistic.

ENGLISH. LEARN TO READ IT.

you have less right to judge not 'we mustn't judge' ffs at leat read me properly idiot

Notabunny: funmonger: pippi longstocking: Surprise no one talks about the rate at which these monsters come back home to become extremely violent criminals.

What rate?

3.14:1 (the dreaded pi rate)

Ten of the brigade's members committed or attempted to commit homicides after their return from Iraq, a rate said to be 114 times the murder rate in Colorado Springs, adjacent to the unit's base.

Well at least in Colorado the magic number is 114 according to this link (new window)

So yeah, I bet you're paying for their "service" to the country.

BesiktasBoy83: unless you have seen war then you cannot understand this story.

Unless you've seen war, you don't understand how sad this story is (if true).
If it got this out of hand, all kinds of crazy shiat was happening. I wouldn't blame the boys' as much as a CO that was batshiat insane.
War may be Hell, but we stand tall above the rest. Really. No shiat. The moment we behave like a depraved enemy or worse, we've lost the war. When we start making excuses for behavior like this (if true) then we have lost all moral imperative in fighting this war.
And for me, my friends, and allies, that's why we are (were) there.
War is hell... but there should always be a reason for war. It's our collective belief in politics and morality that justifies the use of force. Once that is lost, so is everything else.

Subby: US troops in Afghanistan, winning hearts and minds, collecting fingers eliminating hajji

FTFY

BesiktasBoy83: Knucklepopper: BesiktasBoy83: Knucklepopper: BesiktasBoy83: If you have not worn the uniform you have less right to judge, this is just a fact.

Actually, no. That's not a fact, at all. In fact, pun intended, it's a pretty dumb farking thing to say.

Great argument. Not.

Was there anything else I needed to address there? Because other than this sweepingly awkward statement about how "we mustn't judge unless we've worn the uniform," your argument was pretty simplistic.

ENGLISH. LEARN TO READ IT.

you have less right to judge not 'we mustn't judge' ffs at leat read me properly idiot

Is this English here? What in the hell is this?
And expand your argument.
I have less right to judge because _______ ?

BesiktasBoy83:

you have less right to judge not 'we mustn't judge' ffs at leat read me properly idiot

So it takes a uniform to be able to tell if killing innocent civilians and collecting fingers is wrong? Is there some condition that makes that ok?

/I wonder if they were alive or dead when the uniforms took the fingers...

MooseByMail: RayD8: jiaxiaobo: Guy on the left is culpable. I can tell by just looking at him.

That said, we're training 19y.o.s to kill people. Isn't the skull still solidifying at this age? That can't be good for development. Not surprised that some are processing it as sport, especially since many are poor white trash.

Psychopaths are clever farkers. How many manipulate the screening processes and end up in a war zone?

Really, a few.
For them all to end up in the same command, under a CO that would encourage this shiat...not very likely.
As much as the military trains...(they do their job well) they do work to weed out the psychos.

/in our volunteer military, the idea is a non-repeat of Vietnam.

Not sure who this was directed at. Unlikely that a group of psychos would end up in the same squad, but if the Sgt was a manipulative psycho then impressionable young men could be persuaded to follow.
This happens to entire populations of countries.

ok I'm outta here got a lot to do today. MooseByMail has said everything anyway. Catch u later guys, play nice ;)

Only clerics and soldiers think that a costume makes them special.

BesiktasBoy83: ok I'm outta here got a lot to do today. MooseByMail has said everything anyway. Catch u later guys, play nice ;)

Poor BesiktasBoy83. He does this to himself every single time. He takes a lunatic's position, has no idea how to defend it, dissolves into screams and rantings and then disappears.

RayD8: Psychopaths are clever farkers. How many manipulate the screening processes and end up in a war zone?

Yeah, cos you have to be real smart to get accepted into the army.

1derful: The enemy can not press a button if you have disabled his hand.

Out in ten or so.