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(The Sun) Asinine Eleven - count 'em - ELEVEN doctors miss telltale signs of patient's cancer. Still no cure for incompetence   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 165
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2010-09-08 09:50:50 PM
This was SOCIALIZED medicine. In America, it would have been missed by 7 specialists, but they would have charged more and paid more taxes and insurance fees and thereby propped up our service based economy. And they would have made you wait longer in the waiting room, thereby indoctrinating us to the benefits of TIME magazine.
 
2010-09-08 10:11:56 PM
I was gonna click this link, but then I saw the "Sun" logo...

/dnrtfa
 
2010-09-08 10:21:09 PM
my dad's BFF since he was a kid is hospital right now dying of a nasty cancer (he's down in PR). He was diagnosed only weeks ago, even though he had had an invasive surgery a year ago here in the states. They somehow missed the giant tumor the first time around, and when he seemed to be getting worse and deteriorating and now they're afraid he won't survive the week. He's in the ICU, tubes running everywhere and he's bleeding from every orifice.

it's really sad and it's a travesty that with the technology we have in the medical field things like these can go undetected for months while the people afflicted are rotting from the inside out.
 
2010-09-08 10:21:31 PM
Not surprised. I've seen 7 or 8 doctors for a couple conditions and got nothing but random guesses, giving up, and random pills. Doctors suck.
 
2010-09-08 10:22:34 PM
Butterflew: my dad's BFF since he was a kid is in the hospital right now dying of a nasty cancer (he's down in PR). He was diagnosed only weeks ago, even though he had had an invasive surgery a year ago here in the states. They somehow missed the giant tumor the first time around, and when he seemed to be getting worse and deteriorating and now they're afraid he won't survive the week. He's in the ICU, tubes running everywhere and he's bleeding from every orifice.

it's really sad and it's a travesty that with the technology we have in the medical field things like these can go undetected for months while the people afflicted are rotting from the inside out.


FTFM.. less wine with dinner i think
 
2010-09-08 10:39:48 PM
"I feel like they never gave me any chance to survive."

2.bp.blogspot.com

What an A&E doctor might look like.

/Make your time.
 
2010-09-08 11:29:49 PM
Welcome to Obamacare.

/DRTFA, but someone had to say it
 
2010-09-09 12:18:22 AM
Butterflew: my dad's BFF since he was a kid is hospital right now dying of a nasty cancer (he's down in PR). He was diagnosed only weeks ago, even though he had had an invasive surgery a year ago here in the states. They somehow missed the giant tumor the first time around, and when he seemed to be getting worse and deteriorating and now they're afraid he won't survive the week. He's in the ICU, tubes running everywhere and he's bleeding from every orifice.

it's really sad and it's a travesty that with the technology we have in the medical field things like these can go undetected for months while the people afflicted are rotting from the inside out.


what kind of surgery and where's the tumor?
 
2010-09-09 12:20:13 AM
inb4 this is what you get in obama's america.
 
2010-09-09 12:20:18 AM
43-year-old grandmother of 5?
 
2010-09-09 12:21:12 AM
unyon: Welcome to Obamacare.

/DRTFA, but someone had to say it


Maybe you should read Butterflew's comment about a similar situation in the U.S. before making an ignorant comment.
 
2010-09-09 12:21:51 AM
roncomedy.files.wordpress.com

Doctor #11, photographed with his assistant.
 
2010-09-09 12:22:50 AM
whatshisname: 43-year-old grandmother of 5?

This is Obama's America.

/or something along those lines
 
2010-09-09 12:23:05 AM
Butterflew: my dad's BFF since he was a kid is hospital right now dying of a nasty cancer (he's down in PR). He was diagnosed only weeks ago, even though he had had an invasive surgery a year ago here in the states. They somehow missed the giant tumor the first time around, and when he seemed to be getting worse and deteriorating and now they're afraid he won't survive the week. He's in the ICU, tubes running everywhere and he's bleeding from every orifice.

it's really sad and it's a travesty that with the technology we have in the medical field things like these can go undetected for months while the people afflicted are rotting from the inside out.


My ex's grandma is the same way. Just had surgery on bone cancer in her ribs that spread to her femur, brain, and lungs. She has maybe six months
 
2010-09-09 12:23:07 AM
Marcus Aurelius: This was SOCIALIZED medicine. In America, it would have been missed by 7 specialists, but they would have charged more and paid more taxes and insurance fees and thereby propped up our service based economy. And they would have made you wait longer in the waiting room, thereby indoctrinating us to the benefits of TIME magazine.

And 2 or 3 of those specialist wouldn't be in-network.
 
2010-09-09 12:24:29 AM
Butterflew: it's really sad and it's a travesty that with the technology we have in the medical field things like these can go undetected for months while the people afflicted are rotting from the inside out.

The real travesty is that you're paying doctors half a million dollars a year.
 
2010-09-09 12:25:14 AM
Quasar: Not surprised. I've seen 7 or 8 doctors for a couple conditions and got nothing but random guesses, giving up, and random pills. Doctors suck.

This
 
2010-09-09 12:27:17 AM
Came for the picture of Dr. House

/Left disappointed
 
2010-09-09 12:28:12 AM
Too bad it didn't hit this 43-year-old grandmother of 5 earlier in her life. Maybe it could have caused her to have a hysterectomy when she was 12.

/it's ok, I had cancer earlier this year, I can say stuff about us

//you people who haven't had cancer can't do it
 
2010-09-09 12:28:14 AM
blogs.ajc.com

Eleven! Eleven bad doctors! Ha Ha Ha!
 
2010-09-09 12:29:19 AM
whatshisname: Butterflew: it's really sad and it's a travesty that with the technology we have in the medical field things like these can go undetected for months while the people afflicted are rotting from the inside out.

The real travesty is that you're paying doctors half a million dollars a year.


If you're really this stupid, you should really go and off yourself before you drown in a dixie cup
 
2010-09-09 12:29:20 AM
whatshisname: 43-year-old grandmother of 5?

Sounds like an high class family!

Still no excuse for 11 doctors missing this.
 
2010-09-09 12:34:36 AM
This is why you don't trust your health to elves.

/Or am I confused?
 
Esn
2010-09-09 12:34:42 AM
JJFerret: Quasar: Not surprised. I've seen 7 or 8 doctors for a couple conditions and got nothing but random guesses, giving up, and random pills. Doctors suck.

This


Yep. If it's not obvious, they don't want to be bothered figuring it out. They won't be honest and say "we don't know", either, instead they'll tell you that it's all in your imagination and you're just coming to them to get attention or something.
 
2010-09-09 12:37:27 AM
They're English. It not like they're smart.

/obamacare would have saved her
 
2010-09-09 12:38:10 AM
DrMcNinja: If you're really this stupid, you should really go and off yourself before you drown in a dixie cup

Yes, I really am that stupid. Maybe even stupider.

Do you honestly believe that doctors are worth what they're paid in the US?
 
2010-09-09 12:40:06 AM
At least it wasn't lupus.
 
2010-09-09 12:42:01 AM
Ah... socialized medicine. Gotta love it.
 
2010-09-09 12:42:15 AM
whatshisname: DrMcNinja: If you're really this stupid, you should really go and off yourself before you drown in a dixie cup

Yes, I really am that stupid. Maybe even stupider.

Do you honestly believe that doctors are worth what they're paid in the US?


look up the average salary of a GP, and then look up how much their expenses, loan payments, malpractice insurance are. They make dick. Subspecialists, yeah, they make a lot.
 
2010-09-09 12:42:24 AM
Rule #2 of socialized medical care: if you think that your doctor/a clinic/a hospital emergency room has misdiagnosed your condition, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Rule #5 of socialized medical care: Write down your symptoms ahead of time and read them to the doctor; you want to tell him/her about your problem concisely and completely in the 90 seconds of face time that they give you.
 
2010-09-09 12:44:12 AM
if you don't want to die, then don't get born.

c'est simple.
 
2010-09-09 12:44:22 AM
newscoma.files.wordpress.com

THIS Dr would have caught the cancer the first time around and EXTERMINATED IT.....EXTERMINATE.....EXTERMINATE
 
2010-09-09 12:44:44 AM
She claims in the article that she had "all the classic signs of cancer"..like what? Random symptoms that no one can figure out?

I'm not saying they shouldn't have done more, sooner.
 
Esn
2010-09-09 12:45:34 AM
And if they do prescribe anything, it'll almost always be pills or an operation, when the original reason for your ill-health may be in your environment. "The Sick House Survival Guide" is a great read about one lady who cured herself by moving somewhere healthier.

A lot of today's medicine, unfortunately, is about controlling the symptoms rather than curing the underlying causes. Maybe that's easier for the doctors.

i.imgur.com
 
2010-09-09 12:46:04 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Bad doctors are bad everywhere.
 
2010-09-09 12:46:53 AM
tort reform should fix that too


/tort
 
2010-09-09 12:46:53 AM
This is the part that scares me:

Now after finally being admitted for a scan she has been diagnosed with terminal cancer that has spread to her liver and lymph nodes.
 
2010-09-09 12:46:57 AM
Addicted: Rule #2 of socialized medical care: if you think that your doctor/a clinic/a hospital emergency room has misdiagnosed your condition, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Rule #5 of socialized medical care: Write down your symptoms ahead of time and read them to the doctor; you want to tell him/her about your problem concisely and completely in the 90 seconds of face time that they give you.


Rule #2 of private medical care: if you think that your doctor/a clinic/a hospital emergency room has misdiagnosed your condition, good luck finding someone else who is in your health insurance network.

Rule #5 of private medical care: Write down your symptoms ahead of time and read them to the doctor; you want to tell him/her about your problem concisely and completely in the 90 seconds of face time that they give you, if you can even get face time. Don't even try with a dermatologist. Just see the PA and save yourself the trouble of waiting 6 months for an appointment.
 
2010-09-09 12:47:32 AM
Bathia_Mapes: Maybe you should read Butterflew's comment about a similar situation in the U.S. before making an ignorant comment.

Just what country do you think Obama is the President of? speaking of ignorant.... geez
 
2010-09-09 12:47:45 AM
DreamWeaver: This is the part that scares me:

Now after finally being admitted for a scan she has been diagnosed with terminal cancer that has spread to her liver and lymph nodes.


And I'm no expert here, but shouldn't have there also been some blood tests that could have raised some suspicions too?
 
2010-09-09 12:47:47 AM
That's ridiculous. It's not even funny.
 
2010-09-09 12:48:00 AM
YouFarkingIdiot: whatshisname: 43-year-old grandmother of 5?

Sounds like an high class family!

Still no excuse for 11 doctors missing this.


She had pretty vague complaints, stabbing pain, loss of appetite, "passing blood". These are not "all the signs of cancer" as she makes it out to be. There's a saying in medicine that says "when you hear hoofbeats, look for horses, not zebras". The reason being that common things are common, uncommon things uncommon. It is unfeasible and unethical to send everyone with the signs she was presenting with a scan to look for abnormalities. Even if she was having blood in her stool, the most common reason would be hemorrhoids. In her age group, unless she had a close relative with a cancer history, she wouldn't even be likely in a risk group for colorectal cancer. However, if she did have continued bleeding without a source, they'd likely set her up for a colonoscopy, which would still not have found that particular cancer. Point number 2, if now in september she has diffuse mets from stomach cancer, in April when she first presented it would've likely been too far advance to adequately treat already. This is very common for stomach cancer, it often presents very late in the course.

Medicine is all about statistics, and it works for the vast VAST majority. However, because of it's very nature, there will be patients who don't fall into the statistics. The other alternative being performing every intervention on every patient, sapping away money for everyone else who could be treated (which is the turn medicine is starting to take, anyway). I don't know about this lady's case, I don't know how she presented, all the facts that the physician's were presented. I'm not defending what happened, but i'm also not condemning it. It's an unfortunate situation and it is just a set up for one of FARK's famous "I hate doctors" threads (if you like these, please join us for "I hate cops" and "I hate teachers" threads). I've been working too many hours this month and i've been drinking, so sorry if some of this is inaccurate or typoifyied.
 
Esn
2010-09-09 12:50:18 AM
12349876: DreamWeaver: This is the part that scares me:

Now after finally being admitted for a scan she has been diagnosed with terminal cancer that has spread to her liver and lymph nodes.

And I'm no expert here, but shouldn't have there also been some blood tests that could have raised some suspicions too?


Are those even done today? They've been getting more and more rare, it seems.
 
2010-09-09 12:53:24 AM
Esn: 12349876: DreamWeaver: This is the part that scares me:

Now after finally being admitted for a scan she has been diagnosed with terminal cancer that has spread to her liver and lymph nodes.

And I'm no expert here, but shouldn't have there also been some blood tests that could have raised some suspicions too?

Are those even done today? They've been getting more and more rare, it seems.


"We'd do the test, but your PPO only covers it if it's ordered by a specialist. We'll put in a request to have you seen by a specialist, but it could take a few weeks."

/so try not to die before the specialist gets back to you.
 
2010-09-09 12:53:33 AM
Although there are doctors out there that should suffer and die for their ineptitude, it really bugs me how some people treat doctors as is they were the original manufacturers of human beings. People then believe that they aren't getting the warranty service they expect and deserve. Doctors are actually more like an after market repair center that tries to fix you without a complete service manual (I mean, they don't know everything about the human body yet). Doctors aren't magic, they simply may be able to help you due to their training, and most of the time, that does the trick.
Also, the law of probabilities means that there's some poor schmuck that will go to as many doctors as he wants, and nobody will ever see the real problem.
 
2010-09-09 12:55:49 AM
Esn: 12349876: DreamWeaver: This is the part that scares me:

Now after finally being admitted for a scan she has been diagnosed with terminal cancer that has spread to her liver and lymph nodes.

And I'm no expert here, but shouldn't have there also been some blood tests that could have raised some suspicions too?

Are those even done today? They've been getting more and more rare, it seems.


I get my cholesterol and other vitals like sodium and hemoglobin checked every 6 months. And a blood test was the first clue into finding my benign brain tumor. First were the symptoms, then a blood test of hormones, then an MRI and boom, proper diagnosis.
 
2010-09-09 12:56:06 AM
He added: "We would encourage the patient to contact us should they wish to take the matter further and we will undertake a full investigation."

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you die.
 
2010-09-09 12:59:09 AM
Esn: Yep. If it's not obvious, they don't want to be bothered figuring it out. They won't be honest and say "we don't know", either, instead they'll tell you that it's all in your imagination and you're just coming to them to get attention or something.

My favorite was a doctor I went to for an old joint injury in my finger. He said it looked okay and the x-ray was fine, so there was nothing he could do. I asked if there was anything, even a surgical inspection or something, that could at least identify the cause of the pain. He looks at me, and in the most condescending tone possible, says "well, you know, there's no magic cure I can use to fix you, you know? there's no magic answer."

Yeah, f*ckface, that's exactly what I was asking for. I wanted some gummy juice. Piece of shiat.
 
2010-09-09 12:59:39 AM
A MUM-of-three has been given just weeks to live after TEN hospital doctors and her own GP missed tell-tale signs of cancer.

In our defense, she was an EXTREMELY annoying patient.
 
2010-09-09 01:09:07 AM
At least it wasn't Lupus.
 
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