Canada even has $51 billion in its economy?

Just shooting them is cheaper.

Oldiron_79: Canada even has $51 billion in its economy?

BC Bud is worth way more than that annually. And i know its strong, but i wouldn't say mental-illness grade...

Renowned transvestite sexologist: Just shooting them is cheaper.

I like you.

I don't.

So is "I'm sorta depressed today" considered a 'mental illness' under this description? That's not a mental illness, every human being that's lived for more than a few days or weeks has been depressed, it happens, it's not a clinical condition unless specific criteria are met. I seriously doubt 'stress, casual and part-time work and uncertain economic conditions' are inducing more than a handful of real mental disorders like clinical depression.

It sounds like they do have a mental health issue (and most people are just too dumb to understand depression), but no mental illness is going to just be a 'short term leave.' So what the hell are they paying for when there is clearly little or no professional help required for these cases (that I assume are regular depression/stress).

"Ice Road Whackos" premiering on The History Channel in October.

/hot

Notes the clever use of your sick tag, and disapproves.

There's a reason why the therm "crazy canucks" exists, you know.

People started saying it after we fought the Germans in WWII, wearing nothing but full sequence nightgowns. The plan was to blind them with style until they gave in.

And you know what? It worked.

Um, that means it costs over $1500 per Canadian. I question your figures. They're suggesting that every year, more than one out of every eight employees goes on disability. Not sick leave, but disability. That's ridiculous. It's insane. Madness. MADNESS I TELL YOU. I'll find a way to make them listen! And make them pay! They'll all pay! Mother! I'll clean up my room!

I go on disability all the time.

And so do I.

whatshisname: I go on disability all the time.

And so do I.

If the voices would be quiet for just one second I would be able to tell you that I lol'd, and not just the usual 'tee hee hee' that I save for when I'm cleaning the guns.

Phil Herup: Oh.... but they have the best health care system on Earth.


They cure everything with socialism!!!!!

*Sigh*

The Damned: There's a reason why the therm "crazy canucks" exists, you know.

People started saying it after we fought the Germans in WWII, wearing nothing but full sequence nightgowns. The plan was to blind them with style until they gave in.

And you know what? It worked.

Would have worked better with sequins.

Bagelox-99: $51 billion is nothing compared to the potential loss to the economy if the causes of those people's mental illness did not exist.

/it's called the "cost of doing business."
//in the US it's more like $51 trillion.

Not really. You keep your employees happy (and, contrary to popular belief, a raise!=happy employee) and they'll be more creative, more productive and more healthy overall, making your business more profitable.

Burning your employees out never gets you far.

/individuals and interactions over processes and tools, amirite?

Phil Herup: Oh.... but they have the best health care system on Earth.


They cure everything with socialism!!!!!

The article could have said, "Canadians have turned mental illness into $x billion worth of jobs, technology, social service skills," except that our federal government is gutting all of that, so we don't know how many jobs are created.

Furthermore, the alternative to social safety nets for mental illness is jail. The recidivism rates in Canada are exrtremly high because of the federal and provincial cuts to mental health care. If you consider how much money we would save on police and prisons alone, even neglecting lawyers, court room time, and so forth, good mental health would pay for itself. Our government is short-sighted right now. And so is the article.

yay cheap meds while I'm on EI

I love you Adderall
you too Dexedrine :D

Renowned transvestite sexologist: Just shooting them is cheaper.

Meh - I am crazy and I still work. I just hold a job no-one else wants, that way people tolerate my craziness.

A job gets done, and I can afford beer to twitch into - everyone is happy.

Phil Herup: Oh.... but they have the best health care system on Earth.


They cure everything with socialism!!!!!


Hardly.

No we don't have the best health care on Earth but we're leaps and bounds ahead of you Yanks down south.

Last I heard, the best in the world is one of the Scandinavian countries that *gasp* operate on a socialist basis.

Even Italy is in the top ten where... *gasp* they too have a socialized health care system.

They can't run a parliament without fist fights breaking out, and a rail system that is so disorganized it's a joke, and corrupt Mafia run labor unions up the wazoo... but they take their hospitals seriously, and if you're sick you'll get some of the best treatment in the world. Free of charge.

Here in Canada, I've got my drugs covered, my health care covered. I get all sorts of IV infusions on a regular basis at a private clinic, and I only pay a small co-payment. I've gotten first rate treatment for every illness I have ever had and I don't have to worry about what it will cost me. I know that I'll never go bankrupt because of an illness.

So while you Yanks who whine and biatch about socialism, I laugh. And laugh. And laugh.

(It's not perfect but it's way better than unrestrained capitalism, the same unrestrained capitalism that brought the U.S. banking system to the edge of total collapse in a mere couple of years after the Bush regime deregulated it.)

Do what you like down there in the U.S., it's not my concern. I'm just tired of the same old socialism is evil bullcrap, when you don't even know what it means.

Ikahoshi: I'm just tired of the same old socialism is evil bullcrap, when you don't even know what it means.

We socialists live 2-3 years longer than the capitalists, too.

Phil Herup: They cure everything with socialism!!!!!




/approves

Phil Herup: Oh.... but they have the best health care system on Earth.


They cure everything with socialism!!!!!

They are paying for mental health care and you are bashing them? You could use some good old fashioned Canadian socialism.

Five Minute Standup: Notes the clever use of your sick tag, and disapproves.

Not obscure, but Foucault was looooony. :-)

Isn't that like $5 American?

/can't really make that joke anymore :(

HMS_Blinkin: /hot

Came for the Brian Fellows reference.

Leaving satisfied. Thanks HMS_Blinkin!

Renowned transvestite sexologist: Just shooting them is cheaper.

That cost bullets... we'd much rather just release them into general population, where they can mingle and panhandle people at red lights, and generally be nuisances on buses.

Good times!

/Yeah we Canucks don't have that whole gun thing going for us... otherwise we probably would just shoot them.

Not a bad price, if it's real crazy. That "functional" crazy shiat doesn't do a thing, man.

Barakku: So is "I'm sorta depressed today" considered a 'mental illness' under this description? That's not a mental illness, every human being that's lived for more than a few days or weeks has been depressed, it happens, it's not a clinical condition unless specific criteria are met. I seriously doubt 'stress, casual and part-time work and uncertain economic conditions' are inducing more than a handful of real mental disorders like clinical depression.

It sounds like they do have a mental health issue (and most people are just too dumb to understand depression), but no mental illness is going to just be a 'short term leave.' So what the hell are they paying for when there is clearly little or no professional help required for these cases (that I assume are regular depression/stress).

Since you have no idea what your talking about and feel free to post like you do anyway, let me better explain this to you.

Stress, economic factors, etc do bring the normal person down. These people aren't the ones that are taking time off. However, these factors can greatly exasperate the symptoms of someone who has a legitimate mental illness (trigger mania and deep depression in the bipolar patients, hallucinations for example in schizophrenia). And, since you're ignorant, it's worth mentioning that people with these illnesses can function as productive members of society; though occasionally (usually rarely) their disability can act up under certain conditions. Same as people with other disabilities. Hence, leave of absence and time off for hospitalizations.

Untreated and improperly treated mental illness and a broken mental health care system is a huge part of this problem. And people who have the "every one has bad days so don't get help and take medication (sure, just brush off that mania!)" erroneous attitude are a huge part of that problem.

Barakku: but no mental illness is going to just be a 'short term leave.'

So my taking 10 days stress leave when my wife was first hospitalized with chronic depression (following an un-successful suicide attempt) is not mental illness related short term leave?

Wow, I though I understood things. Thanks for setting me straight

I've toughed it out for forty years - let me have a month or two leave fer God's sake.

A boot to the head.

That's nothing. Mass Hysteria cost the U.S. 1.4 trillion in the last 16 months.

HMS_Blinkin: /hot



Marry me!

_{/Damnit! Beat me to it!}

Edwardo17: Phil Herup: Oh.... but they have the best health care system on Earth.


They cure everything with socialism!!!!!

*Sigh*

no need to sigh. It works. We cured this idiot from ever coming to our country.

Ikahoshi: Free of charge.

I don't think that you understand this part of the equation.

The mentally and physically disabled should not even exist anymore. Not through cures, but by euthanasia and abortion.

Society is only as strong as its weakest link, and it makes ZERO sense to care for those who only hold us back. We have to let go of this "all life is precious" crap and realize that the *only* valuable life is life that can contribute to the greater good.

We wont move forward until we realize that.

"In an average year, a firm with 1,000 employees might expect about 145 disability cases,"

bullshiat

oh wait a sec...we are including unionized government workers right? yeah those lazy arseholes take disability all the time, they dont want to use up their precious sick leave that they cash out on retirement.

They should open their southern border and allow wetbacks in. hey work cheap and can be easily replaced with no loss in down time.

diddletwat: They should open their southern border and allow wetbacks in. hey work cheap and can be easily replaced with no loss in down time.


heh, guess who we already have working in our slaughter houses and meat packing plants?

LemSkroob: The mentally and physically disabled should not even exist anymore. Not through cures, but by euthanasia and abortion.

Society is only as strong as its weakest link, and it makes ZERO sense to care for those who only hold us back. We have to let go of this "all life is precious" crap and realize that the *only* valuable life is life that can contribute to the greater good.

We wont move forward until we realize that.

Hm. Needs a little seasoning, but not bad for a troll. 3/10. More if you get some bites.

Mental illness costs Canadian economy $51 billion. That's crazy a lot of loonies.

/FTFY

$51 billion? Why are you telling me about this? Don't look at me that way...

*ohfarkohfarkohfark they know THEY KNOW*

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

I'd be $51b crazy too, if I had to exist that close to the USA.