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(NPR) Stupid Lipton's "tea is perfect and has antixodiants and can lower your cholesterol" health campaign has the FDA ready to declare tea a controlled drug   (npr.org) divider line 160
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2010-09-08 11:09:39 AM
why is it that we bother to research and regulate this stuff.
it isn't complicated.

IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE INGREDIENT AS:

A plant: very good for you!
An animal product: Okay for you
an animal: good in appropriate amounts
A chemical process that removes anything food-like from the food: DON'T EAT IT.

that said, tea is probably healthy for you.
Liptons is not tea. Bottled liptons most resembles a chemical process. Lipton tea bags are processed plants, so fall somewhere between.
if you want tea, get plain, loose leaf tea.
 
2010-09-08 11:53:22 AM
The day they come for my sweet tea is the day we will be forced to launch an insurrection.
 
2010-09-08 12:49:25 PM
Tea can't do that.
 
2010-09-08 01:13:06 PM
I'm mailining some earl grey right now so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Next up: Lemon Zinger speedballs
 
2010-09-08 02:17:59 PM
i939.photobucket.com
Disapproves
 
2010-09-08 02:18:11 PM
Looks like yet another government agency ready to seize some of that sweet enforcement cash.
 
2010-09-08 02:18:32 PM
casperhigh.net

TEA DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!
 
2010-09-08 02:19:04 PM
Katie98_KT: A plant: very good for you!

Atropa belladonna (new window) would like a word.
 
2010-09-08 02:19:06 PM
To protest maybe we can dump a bunch in a harbor or something...
 
2010-09-08 02:19:14 PM
Katie98_KT: why is it that we bother to research and regulate this stuff.
it isn't complicated.

IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE INGREDIENT AS:

A plant: very good for you!


Here, have some very good for you plant:

www.toptenz.net
 
2010-09-08 02:19:36 PM
Antioxidants?

Drink tea, to prevent rust and corrosion.
 
2010-09-08 02:20:51 PM
Sounds more like they are doing their part to crack down on the bogus health claims on stuff like Lipton tea. They make it sound like the trace amounts of antioxidants or whatever are going to make corn syrup water into a health drink. Antioxidants are good so people see that and make assumptions. I'm all for getting rid of the BS health claims on products that aren't actually drugs. If anything this is saying that they are claiming drug-like benefits when there are none so either admit it's bunk or be treated like the drug you claim it is.
 
2010-09-08 02:21:03 PM
"Only in the rest of the world, eh? Pity...."
 
2010-09-08 02:21:18 PM
Day_Old_Dutchie: Antioxidants?

Drink tea, to prevent rust and corrosion.


I just eat zinc to keep my innards galvanized.
 
2010-09-08 02:21:31 PM
Day_Old_Dutchie: Antioxidants?

Typical un-American liberals are at it again. It's PC to be antioxidant but it's racist if you are antiorient.
 
2010-09-08 02:21:47 PM
ObiJuan: Sounds more like they are doing their part to crack down on the bogus health claims on stuff like Lipton tea. They make it sound like the trace amounts of antioxidants or whatever are going to make corn syrup water into a health drink. Antioxidants are good so people see that and make assumptions. I'm all for getting rid of the BS health claims on products that aren't actually drugs. If anything this is saying that they are claiming drug-like benefits when there are none so either admit it's bunk or be treated like the drug you claim it is.

This sounds all the more likely. Sounds like this company is trying to make this tea into some kind of Snake Oil.
 
2010-09-08 02:22:20 PM
fark the FDA.

so sick of these bureaucrats shaking down companies.

There's this snakeoil salesman, I think his name is Trudeau? Total liar, except his point that the FDA would block the sale of oranges under the claim they cure scurvy, as a drug. That's a valid point.

The federal government is simply not equipped to evaluate food and drug safety. It's time to admit that power belongs to the states via the tenth amendment. If your state doesn't want to handle the issue, move. Kill the FDA and watch how drugs and food improve. This isn't the 1910s, and we can handle this without mommy nanny Washington DC.
 
2010-09-08 02:22:31 PM
Day_Old_Dutchie: Drink tea, to prevent rust and corrosion.

It's true. Trust me, you don't want to deal with rusty trombones.
 
2010-09-08 02:23:36 PM
8.5 tailed fox: Day_Old_Dutchie: Antioxidants?

Typical un-American liberals are at it again. It's PC to be antioxidant but it's racist if you are antiorient.


don't even get me started on the antioxidant disdain for so-called "free radicals".

/damn closed-minded antioxidants.
 
2010-09-08 02:25:21 PM
8.5 tailed fox: Katie98_KT: why is it that we bother to research and regulate this stuff.
it isn't complicated.

IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE INGREDIENT AS:

A plant: very good for you!


Here, have some very good for you plant:



Socrates approves!
 
2010-09-08 02:26:03 PM
McDonald's sweet tea is the most vile thing ever. They should regulate that instead, for claiming to be tea. It's more like HFCS-flavored, effluent strained through a dirty sock.
 
2010-09-08 02:26:10 PM
Does it have what plants need, does it have electrolytes?
 
2010-09-08 02:26:30 PM
www.topnews.in

www.inhousepharmacy.com

Hmmmmmmm
 
2010-09-08 02:26:38 PM
Katie98_KT: why is it that we bother to research and regulate this stuff.
it isn't complicated.

IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE INGREDIENT AS:

A plant: very good for you!
An animal product: Okay for you
an animal: good in appropriate amounts
A chemical process that removes anything food-like from the food: DON'T EAT IT.

that said, tea is probably healthy for you.
Liptons is not tea. Bottled liptons most resembles a chemical process. Lipton tea bags are processed plants, so fall somewhere between.
if you want tea, get plain, loose leaf tea.


What sort of non-sense foodie pseudoinfo dumbf*ckery is this?
 
2010-09-08 02:26:57 PM
Arcanum: Blah blah blah blah wharrrggabbllle etc etc etc....



Lead sulfide, its a hellava drug.
 
2010-09-08 02:27:06 PM
ObiJuan: They make it sound like the trace amounts of antioxidants or whatever are going to make corn syrup water into a health drink.

And it's the FDA's fault we have so much corn syrup water.

Them and our Agriculture Department. Thanks Richard Nixon! Our corn subsidy, combined with a disproven Recommended Daily Allowance, has made fattening corn products wind up in almost everything.

And the FDA won't insist on high fiber, because that makes it too expensive to export American agriculture. Low fiber + high carb = fat people with heart attacks.

Comparing Americans before these changes to after is startling.

Back in the day of emerging understanding of food safety, the FDA really helped our nation. Now, it shortens our lives and causes far more problems than it solves. Its influence is responsible for the most prevalent health crisis in our country.

Get the government out of the business of subsidizing food, and they lose their incentive to pretend fiber figures or ignore the health affect of corn.

Corn syrup water, like Lipton's bottled crap, are the Federal Government's fault. Pure and simple. Making everything based on on corn, and subsidizing corn, makes food cheap, last forever, and removes a political issue (food prices changing). That's what Nixon wanted to do, and we're living with the consequences.
 
2010-09-08 02:27:23 PM
I like golden oolong tea. It's so expensive though. Each leave is hand rolled by Tibetan Monks into a perfect square box, then unfold when hydrated.
 
2010-09-08 02:28:22 PM
A neighbor has a Camellia tree (I don't know how, the weather is not particularly fair, being a desert and all), and in some occasions, she'll snip a few leaves.
 
2010-09-08 02:28:56 PM
Don't worry. Once the Republicans retake the House and Senate this fall and impeach FartNAMBLA, we can abolish the FDA along with the DOE.
 
2010-09-08 02:29:22 PM
Anything found in nature that contains what is artificially produced in a lab somewhere [read: Merck] must be regulated.

This should be considered an axiom by now.

Don't even get me started on red yeast rice.

Go ahead.

Look it up.

/not responsible for your head assploding
 
2010-09-08 02:29:26 PM
Cyborg77: Hmmmmmmm

Milk Tea? What the frak?
 
2010-09-08 02:29:41 PM
Deathfrogg: Arcanum: Blah blah blah blah wharrrggabbllle etc etc etc....



Lead sulfide, its a hellava drug.


Difference between us is that I make arguments, and you try to determine if I'm a democrat or not, so you can decide if we are the same cheerleaders.

Fact is, the FDA is making a show, in this case. Sure, they even have a point to some extent. But it's a show.

The federal government uses knowingly bad info for RDA, meant to solve a political problem. It's a big problem that corn is in everything.
 
2010-09-08 02:30:33 PM
CygnusDarius: A neighbor has a Camellia tree

I hear she also has a Camellia toe.
 
2010-09-08 02:31:05 PM
When tea is outlawed, only outlaws will something something

But seriously, tea is farking good. And if you make it without the two cups of sugar per quart like my dad does, it's good for you. Better than a soda, tastier than water. I once did research for a speech about the good stuff in tea and even if half of it was overblown bullshiat, it's still good for you.

/my father drinks sugar water with a little tea in it
//don't do that
///not so csb
 
2010-09-08 02:31:12 PM
Someone better run tell the Rutles.
 
2010-09-08 02:31:20 PM
Arcanum: fark the FDA.

so sick of these bureaucrats shaking down companies.

There's this snakeoil salesman, I think his name is Trudeau? Total liar, except his point that the FDA would block the sale of oranges under the claim they cure scurvy, as a drug. That's a valid point.



I LOL'd.

The FDA won't have anything to do with oranges until someone tries to market them as a cure for scurvy. At which point, the FDA will look at research showing that oranges do in fact treat scurvy and allow it, so long as they don't try to exaggerate things.
 
2010-09-08 02:32:07 PM
Kurmudgeon: Looks like yet another government agency ready to seize some of that sweet enforcement cash.

Arcanum: fark the FDA.

The FDA cracks down on one of the largest corporations in the world for making bogus health claims... and you have a problem with this? Jesus, they just can't win with you people.
 
2010-09-08 02:32:39 PM
I keep a teapot on my desk and an electric water kettle in my office. A drawer in my filing cabinet is devoted to loose teas, my favorite being English Breakfast and Genmaicha. Not a tea snob, but I do enjoy a good cup of good tea.

That said, Lipton is passable as tea if you're using it to make bulk iced tea, but if I'm going for hot tea, gimmie loose-leaf or green or GTFO. (I've found one or two bagged green varieties that work in a pinch.) Otherwise, skeptical Squirrel shall remain skeptical about Lipton's touted health-boosting qualities.


ramen_for_all: Here, have some very good for you plant:


Socrates approves!


I drank what? D:
/Obligatory
 
2010-09-08 02:33:41 PM
8.5 tailed fox: CygnusDarius: A neighbor has a Camellia tree

I hear she also has a Camellia toe.


You magnificent bastard.
 
2010-09-08 02:33:44 PM
All this is making me want a nice cup of Earl Grey.
 
2010-09-08 02:34:47 PM
You know what, Arcanum? I like you. You're not like the other people here, in the trailer park. Oh no, don't get me wrong, they're fine people, good Americans. But they're content to sit back, maybe watch a little Mork and Mindy on channel 57. Maybe kick back a cool Coors 16-ouncer. They're good fine people, Stuart. But they don't know what the queers are doing to the soil.
 
2010-09-08 02:34:59 PM
degreeless: McDonald's sweet tea is the most vile thing ever. They should regulate that instead, for claiming to be tea. It's more like HFCS-flavored, effluent strained through a dirty sock.

Arthur Dent agrees with you.
 
2010-09-08 02:35:58 PM
Katie98_KT: why is it that we bother to research and regulate this stuff.
it isn't complicated.

IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE INGREDIENT AS:

A plant: very good for you!
An animal product: Okay for you
an animal: good in appropriate amounts
A chemical process that removes anything food-like from the food: DON'T EAT IT.

that said, tea is probably healthy for you.
Liptons is not tea. Bottled liptons most resembles a chemical process. Lipton tea bags are processed plants, so fall somewhere between.
if you want tea, get plain, loose leaf tea.


How very true! For your wonderful post I've prepared for you a monkshood, castor bean, Rosary pea salad with soiem water hemlock, monkshood, Oleander and nightshade. Enjoy!**

** Warning, my cause vomiting, fever, nausea, drooling and G.I. dysfunction, bizarre hyperexcitability, edema and fatally convulsive seizures, renal tubular degeneration, bladder and retinal hemorrhage and widespread internal lesions typically develop
 
2010-09-08 02:36:35 PM
Strix occidentalis: All this is making me want a nice cup of Earl Grey.

Hot.
 
2010-09-08 02:36:48 PM
Glad the FDA is after tea manufacturers...you know, when they let things actual drugs go untested and they rely on the drug manufacturer testing data
 
2010-09-08 02:37:24 PM
Lipton bag tea is ok, but Red Rose is better 'cuz it comes with ceramic figurines. My favorite was the puppies:

www.redrosetea.com

They look like they are about to be put down.
 
2010-09-08 02:38:10 PM
jessicat: But seriously, tea is farking good. And if you make it without the two cups of sugar per quart like my dad does, it's good for you. Better than a soda, tastier than water. I once did research for a speech about the good stuff in tea and even if half of it was overblown bullshiat, it's still good for you.

If you make it properly, yes.

American restaurants do not make tea properly. A limp teabag floating in a cup of tepid water is not good at all. Particularly when people squeeze the teabag dry into the cup. Why do they do this?
 
2010-09-08 02:40:23 PM
I love it when the Randroids come into threads, shiat all over them, and just render whatever the thread was about a muddled, unusable mess. They're seagull philosophers
 
2010-09-08 02:40:47 PM
Lipton tea sucks, it's weaker than Stephen Hawkings knees. Typhoo or Barry's please.
 
2010-09-08 02:40:54 PM
You detractors do know its the FOOD and Drug Administration, right? They're well within their charter to smack down Lipton's so-called 'tea' claims.

/Bigelow or bust
 
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