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(Wall Street Journal) Obvious New Jersey Transit unveils "quiet cars" on trains, where self-monitoring commuters can do work without being disturbed by loud cellphone jabberers, leaky iPods, or guidos   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 67
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2010-09-07 09:27:58 PM
Best thing they've done in a long time.

Now if they could just get bi-level cars that still have somewhere to put your luggage...
 
2010-09-07 09:38:09 PM
Hero tag caught in commuter traffic?
 
2010-09-07 10:31:38 PM
Back in my day, if I didn't have a raving lunatic in every car I rode, I complained directly to Mayor LaGuardia!
 
2010-09-08 12:48:12 AM
If you so much as sneeze on a Boston Commuter Rail during rush hour, you'd better run for it.

Apparently on weekends it's OK to being your beat your screaming children, watch your portable DVD player without headphones on full blast, and fart all you want.
 
2010-09-08 12:49:40 AM
They've had these in Japan for quite a while. They are FANTASTIC.
 
2010-09-08 01:16:10 AM
Winktologist: If you so much as sneeze on a Boston Commuter Rail during rush hour, you'd better run for it.

This. And heaven help you if you're sitting in "someone's spot." It's like a goddamn High Episcopal church service the way they covet their pews on those cars.

/looking at *you*, bunch of Walpole-commuting pricks. Hope your wives are home screwing the cable guy.
 
2010-09-08 01:23:34 AM
I think that's a great idea.

That being said, I really don't care if someone takes a call on their cell phone while on public transport. My issues are more with those who

1)talk in overly loud voice so everyone else is forced to hear their conversation. Seriously, I don't want to hear about who said what at that party you went to last Saturday night.

2)Those lovely folks who get on the bus, train, subway, etc. with their phone glued to their ear & when they arrive at their destination, they're still yakking.

3)Even worse, those so involved in their oh-so-important personal conversation that they block entrances/exits on the bus, train, etc. Move your goddamned ass out of our way. Some of us are trying to go to work.
 
2010-09-08 04:48:43 AM
Farking superb.

I'd like to see how this gets policed, however. Society's pretty farked right now and I'm not so sure about self-policing.

I'm borderline GET OF MY LAWN vs. GET WITH THE PROGRAM, GRAMPS in terms of age.

But I can vaguely remember, when I was really young, when libraries were "sshhhhh!" if anyone started talking. Now? Fark me. Libraries are like a bloody rec room in a college dorm with their constant jibber jabber.
 
2010-09-08 04:51:28 AM
I hope you get my point.

Libraries do not equal public transport.

But libraries had the same rule and they've gone to shiat in terms of that rule being respected. Also something about dickhead parents using libraries as free childminding for their dickhead children...
 
2010-09-08 04:52:22 AM
GUIDO-thread!

Please, please, please, please, please!
 
2010-09-08 04:53:03 AM
mct.sbb.ch

It's socialism, I tell you
 
2010-09-08 04:53:50 AM
Leskay: Farking superb.

I'd like to see how this gets policed, however. Society's pretty farked right now and I'm not so sure about self-policing.

I'm borderline GET OF MY LAWN vs. GET WITH THE PROGRAM, GRAMPS in terms of age.

But I can vaguely remember, when I was really young, when libraries were "sshhhhh!" if anyone started talking. Now? Fark me. Libraries are like a bloody rec room in a college dorm with their constant jibber jabber.


I, too, grew up in an era when you weren't allowed to be noisy at the library. God help you if you were. Nowadays kids run screaming through the library and the employees do nothing. They don't even ask the parents to control their kids. I'm not talking about babies crying, I'm talking about kids age 3 & up that are allowed to act like brats and bother other library patrons.
 
2010-09-08 04:57:50 AM
My sister was in a near empty train in Switzerland [on student exchange] when she noticed a bloke nearby was whacking off.

She's a pretty level headed chick, so she was half on her guard, half "yeah whatever floats your boat, pal." Maybe leaning more towards being on her guard. :)
 
2010-09-08 04:58:36 AM
Lest he get some jizz on her.
 
2010-09-08 04:58:44 AM
Who are you to tell my precious little snowflake to be quiet? Do you know who I am? My lawyer will be calling your supervisor!
 
2010-09-08 05:05:28 AM
Bathia_Mapes: Leskay: Farking superb.

I'd like to see how this gets policed, however. Society's pretty farked right now and I'm not so sure about self-policing.

I'm borderline GET OF MY LAWN vs. GET WITH THE PROGRAM, GRAMPS in terms of age.

But I can vaguely remember, when I was really young, when libraries were "sshhhhh!" if anyone started talking. Now? Fark me. Libraries are like a bloody rec room in a college dorm with their constant jibber jabber.

I, too, grew up in an era when you weren't allowed to be noisy at the library. God help you if you were. Nowadays kids run screaming through the library and the employees do nothing. They don't even ask the parents to control their kids. I'm not talking about babies crying, I'm talking about kids age 3 & up that are allowed to act like brats and bother other library patrons.

.
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I was studying at Curtin University library and their was some blue collar MORON - I'm guessing he was there to pick up his wife from a late tutorial - who was READING FARKING STORIES TO HIS KID!!!

In a less than quiet voice, believe me. I couldn't believe what I was witnessing. Was he rude or was he a complete idiot?

Of course, I was too gutless to say anything. I'm like one of the dudes from Fight Club, where Brad Pitt was lamenting how hard it is to get into a fight, even if you deserve it. Spraying that guy with the garden hose and he does nothing. That's me!
 
2010-09-08 05:17:25 AM
My wife looked at me like I had two heads (not that fat okay) when I told her we will not be taking any plane rides until our daughter is old enough to understand what "be quiet" means. While I feel it is my right to go wherever I choose with my daughter, I also respect the rights of others being able to enjoy the same without having a screaming child that wants nothing to do with comforting.

As for the train, I throw on my headphones and tune out to recordings of the various Geico commercials. "Does the little pig go Wee Wee Wee all the way home?"

/
 
2010-09-08 05:20:24 AM
DarthBrooks: This. And heaven help you if you're sitting in "someone's spot." It's like a goddamn High Episcopal church service the way they covet their pews on those cars.

I used to have great fun in choosing a seat at random each week. I got on the train several stops before most of the commuters and had pretty much every single seat free to choose from.

I would then stay in that seat for most of the week, watching the "rightful" owner of the seat get more and more annoyed until they were ready to say something. Then the next day I would choose the one opposite them. :-)

/Childish, but fun
 
2010-09-08 05:24:06 AM
Pinko_Commie: DarthBrooks: This. And heaven help you if you're sitting in "someone's spot." It's like a goddamn High Episcopal church service the way they covet their pews on those cars.

I used to have great fun in choosing a seat at random each week. I got on the train several stops before most of the commuters and had pretty much every single seat free to choose from.

I would then stay in that seat for most of the week, watching the "rightful" owner of the seat get more and more annoyed until they were ready to say something. Then the next day I would choose the one opposite them. :-)

/Childish, but fun


Woah, I thought they were being facetious when they mentioned "someone's seat." Wow, just wow.
 
2010-09-08 05:36:11 AM
JacksonBryan: Pinko_Commie: DarthBrooks: This. And heaven help you if you're sitting in "someone's spot." It's like a goddamn High Episcopal church service the way they covet their pews on those cars.

I used to have great fun in choosing a seat at random each week. I got on the train several stops before most of the commuters and had pretty much every single seat free to choose from.

I would then stay in that seat for most of the week, watching the "rightful" owner of the seat get more and more annoyed until they were ready to say something. Then the next day I would choose the one opposite them. :-)

/Childish, but fun

Woah, I thought they were being facetious when they mentioned "someone's seat." Wow, just wow.


Commuting in and out of Boston is a special kind of soul crushing hell. If commuter rail didn't kill you first, then you have to crowd onto the Green line that goes the speed of crawl. And oh ya, you're sharing the train with thousands of entitled college kids who are married to their Iphones/Blackberries.
 
2010-09-08 05:36:18 AM
I wish they would do this in Spain.

·People on cell phones who speak loudly
·Kids running up and down fighting/playing and screaming
·Cell phones blaring music with no headphones
·People listening to headphones and you can still hear their music
·Loud-ass Spanish people who have no idea what an "inside voice" is.

I'd pay extra money just to sit away from all this on the train.
 
2010-09-08 05:36:35 AM
Pinko_Commie: DarthBrooks: This. And heaven help you if you're sitting in "someone's spot." It's like a goddamn High Episcopal church service the way they covet their pews on those cars.

I used to have great fun in choosing a seat at random each week. I got on the train several stops before most of the commuters and had pretty much every single seat free to choose from.

I would then stay in that seat for most of the week, watching the "rightful" owner of the seat get more and more annoyed until they were ready to say something. Then the next day I would choose the one opposite them. :-)

/Childish, but fun


That's pretty funny. But with my luck, having laughed at that means I'll get to the station and the bike rack on the bus will be full.
 
2010-09-08 05:37:46 AM
The Virginia Railway Express, VRE, has this, its pretty cool. When I accidentally sat in that car, noone said anything or looked upset over what "seat" I was in. But there was this group of guys that seemed to know each other just from meeting on the platform, that was pretty bizarre in a city like DC where most people react as if they're being stabbed if a stranger speaks to them.
 
2010-09-08 05:44:25 AM
Rose of Sharon:

That's pretty funny. But with my luck, having laughed at that means I'll get to the station and the bike rack on the bus will be full.


That bastard Murphy and his law's pulled that on me about a year back. I have a 44 mile one-way commute to work and decided to bike to the bus stop (about 8 miles) than take the bus to within a few miles of work and bike the rest of the way. Bus had spots for two bikes and needless to say I got to ride the 8 miles back home and take my car.

/damn you Murph
 
2010-09-08 05:45:23 AM
They have them here in Denmark.. It is amazing how much less exhausing a 5 hour train trip is when it is quiet.

I used to love travelling in them before I had rugrats.. Now I'm back in the loud "family" section of the train..
 
2010-09-08 05:59:55 AM
Had these on Amtrak for years now.

People on there get SUPER pissy about it if you make any sort of noise, but it's so worth it for a peaceful ride
 
2010-09-08 06:21:33 AM
People still talk on cell phones?
 
2010-09-08 06:27:02 AM
We have them in the UK too.

b>JacksonBryan: Woah, I thought they were being facetious when they mentioned "someone's seat." Wow, just wow.

I've only come across this once. 5:30 am, tiny first class carriage of about 8 seats, me in a non-reserved seat 'I think you're sitting in my seat.' says middle aged comb over guy, my response: 'I think you should just fark off while you still can.' Problem solved.
 
2010-09-08 06:29:24 AM
TwistedIvory: They've had these in Japan for quite a while. They are FANTASTIC.

Exactly. This is a country where motherfarkers aren't, "Me me me me me me," all the time. They ain't perfect, but they are at least polite to one another.
 
2010-09-08 06:31:53 AM
Worse than the constant cell phone chatterbox is the guy with the hacking cough and runny nose who insists on snorting it all back up after he coughs...every three seconds. You know the guy. BLOW YOUR GODDAMNED NOSE AND QUIT MAKING NOISE DICKHEAD!! I used to fail tests in high school because of noise like that. Voices I can handle, but that shiat cuts right through all the background noise and soon, its all you can hear.
 
2010-09-08 06:44:49 AM

I am on the fence about this...

The year is 2010, cell phones and personal entertainment devices are a fact of life, get over it you goddamn goofballs

VS.

wanting to murder people that scream into a cellphone, let their kids run around and annoy people trying to work or relax

Any reasonable person can use a cellphone at a volume no louder than then ambient noise and conversation, it is not difficult. Any reasonable person can use an ipod without others hearing it. Why am i being treated like a second class citizen because OTHER farkING PEOPLE are rude and disrespectful in public?! I guess i want my freedom to do what i want when i want... why should I be restricted because others are rude and ignorant?!
 
2010-09-08 06:51:44 AM
gadian: Worse than the constant cell phone chatterbox is the guy with the hacking cough and runny nose who insists on snorting it all back up after he coughs...every three seconds. You know the guy. BLOW YOUR GODDAMNED NOSE AND QUIT MAKING NOISE DICKHEAD!! I used to fail tests in high school because of noise like that. Voices I can handle, but that shiat cuts right through all the background noise and soon, its all you can hear.

There was a woman doing that on the bus yesterday. When she wasn't doing that she was doing these loud yawns, and I do mean loud. Like she was trying to yodel during the yawn. She did that every couple of minutes, then she'd do this weird lip smacking noise for a few minutes afterward. It was like being in one of the circles of hell. Snot snort, yodel yawn, lip smacking, all in a neverending circle.
 
2010-09-08 06:54:36 AM
U.Betcher Associates: I am on the fence about this...

The year is 2010, cell phones and personal entertainment devices are a fact of life, get over it you goddamn goofballs
VS.
wanting to murder people that scream into a cellphone, let their kids run around and annoy people trying to work or relax

Any reasonable person can use a cellphone at a volume no louder than then ambient noise and conversation, it is not difficult. Any reasonable person can use an ipod without others hearing it. Why am i being treated like a second class citizen because OTHER farkING PEOPLE are rude and disrespectful in public?! I guess i want my freedom to do what i want when i want... why should I be restricted because others are rude and ignorant?!


Everyone wants the same freedom which is why most people are dickheads in public. If you're wearing your head phones you won't notice the rude and disrespectful people with you in steerage. We're keeping you there because you (as a group) have proven you can't be trusted. I would say I'm sorry, but I'm not. Bring a book, laptop, or Ipad if you want to ride with the civilized folks.
 
2010-09-08 07:13:52 AM
Hyuk.

Today's Headline: "New Jersey Transit unveils "quiet cars" on trains."

Next Month's Headline: "Five New Jersey commuters shot dead after reprimanding fellow traveler for talking on cell phone."

/this has a probability greater than zero
 
A0Z
2010-09-08 07:26:19 AM
MONTREAL: Pneumatic rubber tires on wooden 'rails'.
Now That is Quiet!
If the train is quiet the passengers don't feel so inclined to be obnoxious.
 
2010-09-08 07:40:29 AM
Gavino

Bravo!


Leskay

their was some blue collar MORON

I wonder if said moron could spell better than you apparently can.
 
2010-09-08 07:43:23 AM
My earbuds offer me enough isolation until the MTA starts doing this.
/no one wants to hear your lame ringtone
//no one
 
2010-09-08 08:14:27 AM
U.Betcher Associates: I am on the fence about this...

The year is 2010, cell phones and personal entertainment devices are a fact of life, get over it you goddamn goofballs
VS.
wanting to murder people that scream into a cellphone, let their kids run around and annoy people trying to work or relax

Any reasonable person can use a cellphone at a volume no louder than then ambient noise and conversation, it is not difficult. Any reasonable person can use an ipod without others hearing it. Why am i being treated like a second class citizen because OTHER farkING PEOPLE are rude and disrespectful in public?! I guess i want my freedom to do what i want when i want... why should I be restricted because others are rude and ignorant?!


Then....don't sit in the quiet car?
 
2010-09-08 08:27:21 AM
Now if only they'd offer on-time trains and faster-than-driving trains, too...
 
2010-09-08 08:27:25 AM
THANK farkING GOD!

//whoops
//sorry for shouting, but I AM an American.
 
2010-09-08 08:34:13 AM
You know who else hated noise on public transit?

Kirk and Spock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr82dZpCr48
 
2010-09-08 08:51:46 AM
I'm a fan of the idea. Bring them to the DC Metro at ONCE. I'd be willing to pay an extra $0.25 per trip. Could dig them out of that monster deficit hole that they're in.
 
2010-09-08 08:51:50 AM
Wow, welcome to Septa 3 years ago. I had assumed we had copied it from NY/NJ.
 
2010-09-08 09:02:11 AM
Leskay: Farking superb.

I'd like to see how this gets policed, however. Society's pretty farked right now and I'm not so sure about self-policing.



The quiet cars I've been on (Amtrak service to NYC) are quiet without fail. Those who need to use the phone are very cool about moving into an adjacent "do whatever the hell you want" car.

The exceptions to this rule exist, but inconsiderate people will be around even when society is less farked.
 
2010-09-08 09:06:59 AM
Yeah, Septa does this. Surprised NJ hasn't done this yet, given how prevalent it is.

I live in South Orange; guidos are not nearly as much of a problem as the rest of the loonies and douchebags that get on the Midtown Express - Gekko clones, loudmouths, and people that think they're gonna get away with keeping SIX seats to themselves on the 8:16 into Manhattan. Move over, asshole.
 
2010-09-08 09:16:41 AM
Leskay: Farking superb.

I'd like to see how this gets policed, however. Society's pretty farked right now and I'm not so sure about self-policing.

I'm borderline GET OF MY LAWN vs. GET WITH THE PROGRAM, GRAMPS in terms of age.

But I can vaguely remember, when I was really young, when libraries were "sshhhhh!" if anyone started talking. Now? Fark me. Libraries are like a bloody rec room in a college dorm with their constant jibber jabber.


I was doing several things at once when my phone rang and I started talking, forgetting I was on the quiet car.

The man I was sitting next to said "Excuse me, this is the quiet car." to which I apologized and moved to the next car to finish my call.

Sort of anti-sensationalist, I guess, but that's what happened.
 
2010-09-08 09:36:03 AM
Good, I got tired of telling people to shut the fark up.

/but I snore, i think, so.....
//THAT GUY
 
2010-09-08 09:37:28 AM
I kinda wish they would expand it already... it's a good deal. How about all the express trains during peak hours are silent... the rest are "do whatever you want".

Oh yea... kids (especially crying children) should count as noise... jury seems to be out on that.

I suspect someone will end up suing NJ Transit in the end claiming their civil rights were violated... just how it works here in NJ. Might have a chance considering how tax dollars are infused into the system (even with budget cuts, those cars were paid for partially with tax dollars and federal aid).
 
2010-09-08 09:41:02 AM
I love the quiet cars on Amtrak and Septa. When my husband was working for extended periods in NYC, I would take the train up on Friday night and stay until Sunday night in his hotel. Complete and utter silence on the rides.
 
2010-09-08 09:44:24 AM
fireclown: I'm a fan of the idea. Bring them to the DC Metro at ONCE. I'd be willing to pay an extra $0.25 per trip. Could dig them out of that monster deficit hole that they're in.

Try the orange line. Red line you have the self important MD douchebags, and well, the Green line, I hate stereotypes but I'll be damned if there isn't a group of them everytime I'm on there.
 
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