Sheesh, this guy sounds totally loony tunes!

At least in Florida, we've got an answer to that: Baker Act!!! (Pops)

Sorry, we farkistanis erect a submitter... if you join cybernations you can run for the position.

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If this works, how much would you charge me to be your ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary?

The wall between East Farkistan and West Farkistan must fall.

If I had submitted this, I'd be banned for life.

IS JUSTIN WADE GRADY GONNA HAVE TO CHOKE A biatch?

This shiat actually worked? Did subby get a $250 fine and 45 days in PMITA jail too?

I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves.

/E. Peterbus Unum

@ cretinbob

GAT_00: urger: Sorry, we farkistanis erect a submitter... if you join cybernations you can run for the position.

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Cybernations still exists? Doesn't it get boring doing the same thing over and over again? Log in, buy infra, buy military, log out.

Just as boring as playing Mafia Wars and Farmville....

Plant Seed, Watch it Grow, Harvest Your Crop, Till the Soil and repeat ad nauseum. I guess the fun it watching your numbers get bigger than your friends... I think.

Didn't someone also try to claim ownership of a house by saying they were sovereign?

I don't think this is a Texas thing, these sorts of nutjobs seem to show up just about anywhere given enough time.

I think we should tell these "sovereign citizens" that ok, fine, if you like we'll respect that. Make them jump through some hoop to declare themselves sovereign. Then send the Marines to kill them, since they are invading our country :D

These folks are quite fun when they get tangled up with the courts.

Came here for Mass Effect reference, leaving satisfied.

I've always thought that there should be some land somewhere that is of no nation, a place where everyone is a sovereign. This "no nation" status would have to be enforced by the rest of the world; humanity collectively has that place set aside as the place that dudes like this and others like him, people that just can't accept the basic concepts of organized society, can go and feel free (and not bother the rest of us).

Should the people that inhabit this land ever attempt to organize into anything resembling a cohesive society, a multi-national effort is launched to completely eradicate it. I mean, we don't want yet another Australia on our hands.

there was no justification for the stop. john wayne gacy should have been let go without ticket.

DRIVING IS A RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEGE!

Just came here to bravo the subby. Brilliant.

ChadM89: I've always thought that there should be some land somewhere that is of no nation, a place where everyone is a sovereign. This "no nation" status would have to be enforced by the rest of the world; humanity collectively has that place set aside as the place that dudes like this and others like him, people that just can't accept the basic concepts of organized society, can go and feel free (and not bother the rest of us).



Heinlein wrote a short story about just that, called Coventry. A quick GIS even turned up the full text online, but I'm pretty sure somebody is violating copyright so you'll have to find it yourself....

ChadM89: I've always thought that there should be some land somewhere that is of no nation, a place where everyone is a sovereign. This "no nation" status would have to be enforced by the rest of the world; humanity collectively has that place set aside as the place that dudes like this and others like him, people that just can't accept the basic concepts of organized society, can go and feel free (and not bother the rest of us).


It's called Antarctica. Gets a bit chilly sometimes, but lots of free land (if you survive.)

What the fark is it about the middle name Wayne that makes people f*cking crazy?

Declare him "Outlaw" in the medieval sense, he is no longer subject to the law but neither is he protected by it. He can not enforce any contract he makes nor is any action against him is a crime.

These people want not to be subject to laws, but still want those same laws to protect them...BZZZZZ! Sorry wrong answer.

ChadM89: I've always thought that there should be some land somewhere that is of no nation, a place where everyone is a sovereign. This "no nation" status would have to be enforced by the rest of the world; humanity collectively has that place set aside as the place that dudes like this and others like him, people that just can't accept the basic concepts of organized society, can go and feel free (and not bother the rest of us).

Should the people that inhabit this land ever attempt to organize into anything resembling a cohesive society, a multi-national effort is launched to completely eradicate it. I mean, we don't want yet another Australia on our hands.

There is precedent, several "Micronations" have declared themselves countries. Sealand being the most recent, most famous one.

Awhile back a guy was looking for investors in a massive "Freedom Ship", a whole city in international waters. IIRC he proposed computer programming as the basis of its economy, on the basis that the workers would not have to pay taxes. But I kinda doubt that, there are many countries which excuse you from paying taxes there IF you're paying income taxes in another nation. But just claiming offshore residency may not fly, unless perhaps you renounce citizenship of your home nation entirely which is a terrible idea.

abb3w: [...] 1) I swear, it's like there's a species of moron that believes Legalese is a magic language, and that if they can only find the proper charms and incantations to speak and rituals to perform, they will be granted the power to summon and to command, to loose and to bind, and the wish of their heart's desire will magically be granted. [...]

Nicely put. I always like the irony that it's exactly these guys who rely most on everyone else's respect for the law. He thinks he's ultimate badass who can take care of himself and his own, but he wouldn't even have to time travel to find out what badass actually is, and the things it can come up with to do to him. Zimbabwe, Burma, North Korea, Somalia - all fine societies where a man can live free without being impeded by the rule of law that at least tries to apply to everyone equally. Might teach him a little respect for his ancestors, and just what they accomplished.

Oznog: There is precedent, several "Micronations" have declared themselves countries. Sealand being the most recent, most famous one.

Awhile back a guy was looking for investors in a massive "Freedom Ship", a whole city in international waters. IIRC he proposed computer programming as the basis of its economy, on the basis that the workers would not have to pay taxes. But I kinda doubt that, there are many countries which excuse you from paying taxes there IF you're paying income taxes in another nation. But just claiming offshore residency may not fly, unless perhaps you renounce citizenship of your home nation entirely which is a terrible idea.

Ya those plans always work not at all. Countries have dealt with this long ago. More or less, you are going to pay taxes in the nation that you live in. Doesn't matter if you are a citizen of another country, you live somewhere you'll be paying taxes there.

It can get complex in the event of overseas work (like say you are an actor that lives in the UK but works in America) but the nations have treaties for that. Usually you pay taxes where the work happens, and the nations have a reciprocity agreement so you don't get taxed twice.

Of course said micronation wouldn't have such a thing so even if you claimed you lived in the US but worked for the other nation the US would say "Too bad we have no reciprocity treaty, you owe US income tax."

The only real way not to be subject to US law is, well, to not live in the US. Move to and work in another country and the US will pay you little mind, even if you are a US citizen. You can, of course, renounce that and sever all ties.

However you can't live and work in the US, but expect that you can play with words enough to not pay taxes.

Counter_Intelligent: DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY

IT'S JUST BEEN REVOKED.

/ Of mandate.

// Caliente.

TheyCallMeSirr2: /E. Peterbus Unum

Damnit, damnit, damnit! Early morning Farking plus three hours without submitting plus sleep deprivation = see above.

/ Apologies.

sheeze! 45 days for driving with a suspended license? That's crazy. Yeah, I'd be doing whatever I could to weasel out of that too.

I'm disappointed that there's no mention of the "Admiralty Flag" defense. Surely the flag in the courtroom must have had a gold fringe?

Poor Judge Pemberton's photo is up there instead of the douche in question. How many people will walk away from that page thinking he's the perpetrator?

DjangoStonereaver: Generally speaking, when you start using the 'sovereign citizen'
defense, you are admitting you are guilty but do not want to face
the consequences of your action.

Everything in his claim is classic Tax Protester buffoonery, right down to the "my name isn't spelled in ALL CAPS" idiocy. Increasingly courts will fine and censure lawyers or pro se defendants for even attempting this defense.