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2010-09-07 12:48:08 AM
I prefer the 4 R's:

Rape, Reading, Writing, and Rape
 
2010-09-07 01:22:13 AM
Besides my mediocre attempt at wit, this article holds several problems.

1. They trot out the "1 in 4" statistic again. This statistic purports us to believe that millions of women are raped on college campuses each year. The original study done by Mary Koss showed that of those who she claimed were raped, 73% said they weren't. A further 42% slept with their "rapist" again. Most didn't consider the situation important enough to report. As well, about 50% of rapes reported on college campuses were determined to be false allegations.

2. She calls the standard questions "What was she wearing?", "Was she intoxicated?", "Why did she go to the fraternity party?" victim blaming as if they are completely inappropriate questions to ask. Most especially, the question about intoxication is a very important one. Actually, quite often both parties are intoxicated, though only the man is blamed for the rape. A drunken hookup is either not rape or rape on two counts.

3. When Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, almost half of teens surveyed thought Rihanna was to blame. They wondered things like: "What did Rihanna do to upset the mild mannered Chris Brown?" Who do we imagine these teens will blame if they themselves become a victim one day?

If she wants to protect women, have her check the statistics. The most common relationship to suffer domestic abuse are lesbian relationships. Also, women are more likely to commit verbal and emotional abuse (men are more likely to commit physical and sexual abuse)

4. Violence against young women has become increasingly visible and acceptable in our pop culture. Our kids are fed a steady diet of music, video games, movies and television shows rife with violence against young women. A recent study by Parents Television Council found that while incidents of violence on prime-time broadcast television increased 2 percent from 2004 to 2009, there was a 400 percent increase in the depiction of teen girls as victims in that same time period!

So she's proclaiming in her whole article that girls are victims and she's upset that TV portrays it that way?
 
2010-09-07 01:33:05 AM
Do they offer AP rape for high-schoolers to earn college credit?
 
2010-09-07 03:07:08 AM
ArkAngel: I prefer the 4 R's:

Rape, Reading, Writing, and Rape


You said rape twice...
 
2010-09-07 05:59:03 AM
ArkAngel: This statistic purports us to believe that millions of women are raped on college campuses each year

If you'd made it to the second sentence you would have read this:

The finding: 1 in 4 college girls will be the victim of rape or attempted rape before they graduate

So saying the claim was 1 in 4 are raped is disingenuous. But I do agree that that figure (even if it includes attempted rapes) seems vastly inflated.
 
2010-09-07 06:00:48 AM
www.docmarvy.com
It's in the Constitution
 
2010-09-07 06:02:24 AM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: ArkAngel: This statistic purports us to believe that millions of women are raped on college campuses each year

If you'd made it to the second sentence you would have read this:

The finding: 1 in 4 college girls will be the victim of rape or attempted rape before they graduate

So saying the claim was 1 in 4 are raped is disingenuous. But I do agree that that figure (even if it includes attempted rapes) seems vastly inflated.


At the risk of getting beat to hell later today in the comments...

...I have found it hard to find any female who doesn't say they were raped at least once in their life, whether it happened or not. It has become this "instant pity party" thing to say.

Ladies: your own kind is making it so that rape isn't taken as seriously as you want it to be.
 
2010-09-07 06:05:05 AM
ArkAngel: So she's proclaiming in her whole article that girls are victims and she's upset that TV portrays it that way?

Yea that part made me do a double-take. She argues the entire article that violence against young women is skyrocketing and then complains when television and film depict that increase accurately.

Teen pregnancy rates are high in neighborhoods with certain socioeconomic criteria. So the media is to blame for those pregnancy rates when they decide to accurately portray them in television and film? Isn't that just depicting a situation as it currently exists?
 
2010-09-07 06:30:11 AM
Attractive young women aged 16-24 are more vulnerable to violence than any other age group.

FTFY Amy Siskind.
 
2010-09-07 06:32:45 AM
Indolent: ArkAngel: I prefer the 4 R's:

Rape, Reading, Writing, and Rape

You said rape twice...



I think he really likes rape.
 
2010-09-07 06:37:17 AM
FTA: "At least once a year, I speak to my tween daughter with an age appropriate message about teen dating violence. Each time she rolls her eyes and gives me a: "Not this again, Mom." But, she is listening and taking in."

i259.photobucket.com
 
2010-09-07 06:38:23 AM
No active hurricane; scare us with innocent college student daughter rape.


/farking media
*popcorn*
 
2010-09-07 06:39:04 AM
i'm impartial to reading about rape, writing about rape, and rape.

/raping about rape.
 
2010-09-07 06:43:03 AM
Rape of our young women is a staggering problem which receives little national attention.

Only if they're not white.
 
2010-09-07 06:43:14 AM
i knew two women that were raped while in college. neither of them went to the authorities. twenty years later it still affects their relationships. i knew about one of them the day after it happened. that guy didn't go to jail. he didn't even get questioned, but, i guarantee you that about a week later he probably put off having sex, or using the bathroom without crying, for the next two semesters.
 
2010-09-07 06:53:13 AM
cretinbob: It's in the Constitution
Damn you, I was going to post that as the history lesson. :P
 
2010-09-07 06:54:22 AM
We cringed as we recalled the numerous times we had naively placed ourselves in danger back in college. Our walks alone back to the sorority house after midnight on those cold, dark nights. The countless fraternity parties where we were among the last to leave - or in a room with a group of men. We are only grateful we made it through unscathed

I'm curious what percentage of reported rapes are reported as gang rapes. She makes it seem like there's a danger ratio of women:men where you're at risk of being gang raped.
 
2010-09-07 06:56:55 AM
Not trying to threadjack, but the side article pic is too cute.
i.huffpost.com

Otters get cuter when angry.
 
2010-09-07 06:58:41 AM
I doubt it.

I doubt "the troubling stats" when college-aged women give out the pussy like it's government cheese. As for my evidence, go to any college town on a Friday Night.
 
2010-09-07 06:58:49 AM
Oh this thread will be good.

1. all women are whores and "rape" is just theft of services you would have paid for otherwise
2. femi-nazis tell women they've been raped to turn them into lesbians, when really it was just a friendly tussle with a guy who had totally been led on
3. what about the men whose lives have been ruined by false accusations? For every actual rape victim there are twenty women falsely accusing some guy who shoved them on the subway or wouldn't pay for dinner
4. rape is hot/funny because I saw it in an anime once
4. Evil Abraham Lincoln
6. Black Parka Man
7. lots of shiat you've seen before

There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.
 
2010-09-07 07:02:46 AM
No Such Agency: Oh this thread will be good.

1. all women are whores and "rape" is just theft of services you would have paid for otherwise
2. femi-nazis tell women they've been raped to turn them into lesbians, when really it was just a friendly tussle with a guy who had totally been led on
3. what about the men whose lives have been ruined by false accusations? For every actual rape victim there are twenty women falsely accusing some guy who shoved them on the subway or wouldn't pay for dinner
4. rape is hot/funny because I saw it in an anime once
4. Evil Abraham Lincoln
6. Black Parka Man
7. lots of shiat you've seen before

There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.


You don't own any guns, do you?
 
2010-09-07 07:05:37 AM
No Such Agency:
There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.


In reality, you could probably do that for the rest of your life with fairly accurate results.

I say you off yourself now and save yourself the trouble.
 
2010-09-07 07:11:30 AM
i52.tinypic.com

clearly asking for it
 
2010-09-07 07:12:17 AM
i224.photobucket.com

/oblig.
 
2010-09-07 07:14:36 AM
No Such Agency: There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.

Hey, I tried to bring race into it.
 
2010-09-07 07:21:00 AM
unalivezombie: I think he really likes rape.

Charming...
 
2010-09-07 07:21:48 AM
No Such Agency: There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.

You said 4 twice.
 
2010-09-07 07:22:06 AM
A friend of mine was a victim of date rape in college. I always thought I'd be more understanding if it happened to someone I knew, but after she told me the circumstances leading up to it I really had no sympathy. I've always wondered if maybe it wasn't some sort of "buyers remorse" the next day after she realized she'd been deflowered by a frat boy.
 
2010-09-07 07:23:27 AM
No Such Agency: Oh this thread will be good.

1. all women are whores and "rape" is just theft of services you would have paid for otherwise
2. femi-nazis tell women they've been raped to turn them into lesbians, when really it was just a friendly tussle with a guy who had totally been led on
3. what about the men whose lives have been ruined by false accusations? For every actual rape victim there are twenty women falsely accusing some guy who shoved them on the subway or wouldn't pay for dinner
4. rape is hot/funny because I saw it in an anime once
4. Evil Abraham Lincoln
6. Black Parka Man
7. lots of shiat you've seen before

There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.


Thank you, that summed up the average FARK rape thread nicely. I guess I'm done here.
 
2010-09-07 07:26:29 AM
All the women I have been close enough to to talk about rape have told me they have been raped. All of them. Twenty girls, thirty? Enough to know that some of them were stupid and put themselves into bad situations, and they should feel stupid. Doesn't excuse the rapist, but if you go and get careless, especially around people who don't care about you, and you're gonna get hurt.
 
2010-09-07 07:32:11 AM
No Such Agency: Oh this thread will be good.

1. all women are whores and "rape" is just theft of services you would have paid for otherwise
2. femi-nazis tell women they've been raped to turn them into lesbians, when really it was just a friendly tussle with a guy who had totally been led on
3. what about the men whose lives have been ruined by false accusations? For every actual rape victim there are twenty women falsely accusing some guy who shoved them on the subway or wouldn't pay for dinner
4. rape is hot/funny because I saw it in an anime once
4. Evil Abraham Lincoln
6. Black Parka Man
7. lots of shiat you've seen before

There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.


Wow, you said rape four times. You must really like rape!
 
2010-09-07 07:35:15 AM
At the university where I work, they take sexual violence very seriously. They skip right over the "sexual harassment" training and go right for the jugular with sexual violence. The message is not man-hating either, which makes me feel good. The person leading this initiative is very up front about what is rape and what isn't - and "buyer's remorse" is certainly *not* rape. She is clearly in the minority.
 
2010-09-07 07:41:39 AM
ArkAngel: Besides my mediocre attempt at wit, this article holds several problems.

Most articles about rape hold many problems. As far as I have found in what I believe to be somewhat accurate research - the number of actual rapists is somewhat low. Maybe six percent with two percent of them raping someone one time. The other four percent tend to commit 6 or more rapes.

It seems unlikely to me that 1 in 4 woman have been raped or attempted rape with that kind of numbers but I suppose it's possible. I know many, many more women who were molested as children then were raped as adults. It's also hard to get an accurate measurement because people define rape in different ways.

Mostly I get irritated at women who say women are never, ever at fault in any way, but that guys are not only responsible for their own behavior but also for the behavior of everyone around them.
 
2010-09-07 07:41:43 AM
Can whoever is reading the Huffington Post, please stop. All the articles are so fluffy I can't help but feel like I am turning into a bunny.
 
2010-09-07 07:42:45 AM
Macular Degenerate: At the university where I work, they take sexual violence very seriously. They skip right over the "sexual harassment" training and go right for the jugular with sexual violence. The message is not man-hating either, which makes me feel good. The person leading this initiative is very up front about what is rape and what isn't - and "buyer's remorse" is certainly *not* rape. She is clearly in the minority.

Heh. My training at my university scared the crap out of me because of a section on "threatening posture" which said that if someone feels like you are looming over them or intimidating them bodily (without making contact) you could get in trouble for sexual harassment. I know that probably only happens if the person is being a really creepy douche, but at my height it gave me pause.
 
2010-09-07 07:43:44 AM
My grandma is 72.
 
2010-09-07 07:45:10 AM
No Such Agency: Oh this thread will be good.

1. all women are whores and "rape" is just theft of services you would have paid for otherwise
2. femi-nazis tell women they've been raped to turn them into lesbians, when really it was just a friendly tussle with a guy who had totally been led on
3. what about the men whose lives have been ruined by false accusations? For every actual rape victim there are twenty women falsely accusing some guy who shoved them on the subway or wouldn't pay for dinner
4. rape is hot/funny because I saw it in an anime once
4. Evil Abraham Lincoln
6. Black Parka Man
7. lots of shiat you've seen before

There, I just saved you all the trouble of reading the whole sordid mess.


You sound like a dick.

/NOW everything's covered, chuckles.
 
2010-09-07 07:48:45 AM
I thought Rihanna may have had some blame because I thought she started it. She sure did utilize that night for the benefit of her career. She probably head butted him.

Chris Brown, apparently, is a douche regardless of what happened. No man should hit a woman unless it is self defense..even then there are limits
 
2010-09-07 07:49:40 AM
Who the hell are Chris Brown and Piranha???
 
2010-09-07 07:51:17 AM
farkforward: My grandma is 72.

Mine is 86. I win this round.
 
2010-09-07 07:51:26 AM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: ArkAngel: So she's proclaiming in her whole article that girls are victims and she's upset that TV portrays it that way?

Yea that part made me do a double-take. She argues the entire article that violence against young women is skyrocketing and then complains when television and film depict that increase accurately.

Teen pregnancy rates are high in neighborhoods with certain socioeconomic criteria. So the media is to blame for those pregnancy rates when they decide to accurately portray them in television and film? Isn't that just depicting a situation as it currently exists?


That's because the key word is complaining.

It's just the gender feminist version of the right-wing habit of "playing the ref", where everything done fits into the trope. Not paying attention to rape? It's a silent epidemic. Paying attention to rape? It's sensationalism. If there weren't bogus statistics, they'd have to make them up.

Like wingnuts, players of gender identity politics can't be satisfied. Don't even try. It just gives them more to complain about.
 
2010-09-07 07:52:21 AM
ArkAngel: 1. They trot out the "1 in 4" statistic again. This statistic purports us to believe that millions of women are raped on college campuses each year. The original study done by Mary Koss showed that of those who she claimed were raped, 73% said they weren't. A further 42% slept with their "rapist" again. Most didn't consider the situation important enough to report. As well, about 50% of rapes reported on college campuses were determined to be false allegations.

Citation?

Macular Degenerate: At the university where I work, they take sexual violence very seriously. They skip right over the "sexual harassment" training and go right for the jugular with sexual violence. The message is not man-hating either, which makes me feel good. The person leading this initiative is very up front about what is rape and what isn't - and "buyer's remorse" is certainly *not* rape. She is clearly in the minority.

I went to PSU and graduated in 01.

They taught there that buyers remorse, if the woman was drunk, was rape. In fact even if there was no buyers remorse and the woman was drunk it was rape
 
2010-09-07 07:56:41 AM
That's a lot of bounced checks.

This is an annual back-to-school story that scientific research labs of Ms. magazine first published in 1987. It has since been blown out of the water (new window).

Here's another alleged campus rape (new window) that didn't happen, that set the table for the Duke lacrosse team sureality.

So:
a.imageshack.us
 
2010-09-07 07:57:34 AM
Rapity rape rape rape.
 
2010-09-07 07:57:44 AM
We cringed as we recalled the numerous times we had naively placed ourselves in danger back in college. Our walks alone back to the sorority house after midnight on those cold, dark nights. The countless fraternity parties where we were among the last to leave - or in a room with a group of men.

She sounds fat.

More seriously: and yet, nothing happened.
Maybe it's not rape that is at an all-time high, but fear (mongering).
 
2010-09-07 07:57:48 AM
ArkAngel: Besides my mediocre attempt at wit, this article holds several problems.

1. They trot out the "1 in 4" statistic again. This statistic purports us to believe that millions of women are raped on college campuses each year. The original study done by Mary Koss showed that of those who she claimed were raped, 73% said they weren't. A further 42% slept with their "rapist" again. Most didn't consider the situation important enough to report. As well, about 50% of rapes reported on college campuses were determined to be false allegations.

2. She calls the standard questions "What was she wearing?", "Was she intoxicated?", "Why did she go to the fraternity party?" victim blaming as if they are completely inappropriate questions to ask. Most especially, the question about intoxication is a very important one. Actually, quite often both parties are intoxicated, though only the man is blamed for the rape. A drunken hookup is either not rape or rape on two counts.

3. When Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, almost half of teens surveyed thought Rihanna was to blame. They wondered things like: "What did Rihanna do to upset the mild mannered Chris Brown?" Who do we imagine these teens will blame if they themselves become a victim one day?

If she wants to protect women, have her check the statistics. The most common relationship to suffer domestic abuse are lesbian relationships. Also, women are more likely to commit verbal and emotional abuse (men are more likely to commit physical and sexual abuse)

4. Violence against young women has become increasingly visible and acceptable in our pop culture. Our kids are fed a steady diet of music, video games, movies and television shows rife with violence against young women. A recent study by Parents Television Council found that while incidents of violence on prime-time broadcast television increased 2 percent from 2004 to 2009, there was a 400 percent increase in the depiction of teen girls as victims in that same time period!

So she's proclaiming in her whole article that girls are victims and she's upset that TV portrays it that way?


FemiNazis don' eat unless they can create false outrage.
 
2010-09-07 08:00:04 AM
Hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband 'cuz dey rapin' errbody out here!
 
2010-09-07 08:01:12 AM
We gon' find you,
we gon' fiiiiiiiiiind you!

/Hide your husbands.
 
2010-09-07 08:02:59 AM
FTFA: "A recent study by Parents Television Council found that while incidents of violence on prime-time broadcast television increased 2 percent from 2004 to 2009, there was a 400 percent increase in the depiction of teen girls as victims in that same time period!"

... isn't that such a low percentage it would be reasonable to say there are other reasons for the 400% increase? I mean, I'm sure there were other things that more directly relate to the increase of violence, like the number of disrupted households, a general lack of responsibility from parents--

"Shocking, yes. Now as parents, we must act!"


... guess not.

/just got an e-mail from Campus Safety informing us that there was a rape in one of the dorms
//what the hell, class of '14?
 
2010-09-07 08:03:08 AM
The finding: 1 in 4 college girls will be the victim of rape or attempted rape or regretting it the next day and claiming it was rape before they graduate.

Now it makes more sense.
 
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