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2010-09-07 12:45:01 AM
I've been on Lexapro before, and magic mushrooms are waay better for depression. I'd just keep a bunch around and chew on a stem every now and then. I'm too old to trip hard, but the low-level buzz really helped get through those dark months.

Lexapro is the devil however. I'd rather just be depressed.
 
2010-09-07 02:07:42 AM
magic mushrooms are great for curing cluster headaches.
 
2010-09-07 02:08:48 AM
magic mushrooms are great for curing boring salads.
 
2010-09-07 02:09:55 AM
That's not new.

/at least not to me
 
2010-09-07 02:10:16 AM
That was pretty farking trippy...
 
2010-09-07 02:11:09 AM
Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.
 
2010-09-07 02:13:31 AM
I'm pretty depressed, I can has lab rat role?
 
2010-09-07 02:15:46 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.


thanks, this is dedicated to you
userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2010-09-07 02:15:55 AM
magic mushrooms are great for curing hams.
 
2010-09-07 02:17:03 AM
Pot is a gateway medicine.
 
2010-09-07 02:17:07 AM
Speaking of shrooms, check out this link tonight to see a Google/Zombo/LSD mashup

http://www.google.com Google.com can do anything.
 
2010-09-07 02:17:45 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.

Set and setting, friend. Set and setting.
 
2010-09-07 02:18:33 AM
About time someone started serious research into psychedelics again.
/R.I.P, Dr. Tim...
 
2010-09-07 02:19:41 AM
What about those of us with middle-life anxiety? I'd rather take shrooms than crap from a pharma that has more and worse side-effects than what it's supposed to treat. C'mon, an anti-depressant that has suicidal thoughts as a potential side-effect? I'm not anti-pharma, I used to be in pharma, but cheap and natural ought to be preferential to expensive and dangerous.
 
2010-09-07 02:20:42 AM
Confabulat: I've been on Lexapro before, and magic mushrooms are waay better for depression. I'd just keep a bunch around and chew on a stem every now and then. I'm too old to trip hard, but the low-level buzz really helped get through those dark months.

Lexapro is the devil however. I'd rather just be depressed.


Lexapro is great, what are you talking about.

Without it, how would I know what it's like to be suicidal while stuck in a car in the middle of a four hour road trip?

/f--k that sh--t.
//and the goddamned NP with Lexapro notepads and pens who wrote it
///Weed, shrooms, hell, even e in supervised settings would be infinitely preferable to that hell
////it'd be hard to be worse
 
2010-09-07 02:20:47 AM
I'd vouch for this under a court of law. I'm also for, 'give these people whatever they request', but I think that coping with/coming to terms with death is a good practical use for the drug.
 
2010-09-07 02:23:29 AM
tweek46420:


thanks, this is dedicated to you


:-/

Fuller:
Set and setting, friend. Set and setting.


Exactly. I'm not saying I haven't had some good times on them. I'm just thinking about people who are taking them for end-of-life therapy like the article talks about. I'd hate to have a really bad trip and get the fear of God put even further into me if I was close to death. If they're going to do this, they need to do it right, because I can't point to any other drug that'll make so radical a change.

/done plenty of different psychedelics
 
2010-09-07 02:23:55 AM
Mushrooms are great for curing stationary moss.
 
2010-09-07 02:26:04 AM
tweek46420: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.


thanks, this is dedicated to you


i LOL'd
 
2010-09-07 02:26:17 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.

There are medications that can kill a trip if it starts going south (anti-psychotics I believe). Only problem is, you need a prescription, so that avenue is closed to most people looking to trip safely and responsibly.
 
2010-09-07 02:28:01 AM
Oooska: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.

There are medications that can kill a trip if it starts going south (anti-psychotics I believe). Only problem is, you need a prescription, so that avenue is closed to most people looking to trip safely and responsibly.


can't say i'm surprised at that. i mean, people having full autonomy over what they ingest? that's just crazy talk!
 
2010-09-07 02:28:28 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Exactly. I'm not saying I haven't had some good times on them. I'm just thinking about people who are taking them for end-of-life therapy like the article talks about. I'd hate to have a really bad trip and get the fear of God put even further into me if I was close to death. If they're going to do this, they need to do it right, because I can't point to any other drug that'll make so radical a change.

Yeah, I dunno, to me the anxiety you're talking about comes more from "oh god I have to work tomorrow", or "will I ever do anything with my life". If you've already spent some time coming to terms with imminent death, I don't think mushrooms would necessarily increase your anxiety about it. More likely it would, as they found, help provide a new perspective on it.

But that's just my opinion based on my experience.
 
2010-09-07 02:29:41 AM
www.greenspirit.org.uk

/hot like Shiva's wrath
 
2010-09-07 02:31:28 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.

There are three reasons I have seen people bad trip:

1.) Bad mushrooms
2.) It hurt their stomach worse than normal (it almost always hurts your stomach, it's normal)
3.) People like you make people super anxious about it

Mushrooms have a few effects and one of them is amplifying your emotions at the moment. If you are super anxious about bad tripping, you are more likely to bad trip. But you know what? The worst thing that is going to happen is that you go to the hospital, they give you a sedative and you wake up the next day good to go. It's as bad for you as drinking a ton of alcohol - it literally effects the same parts of your brain and body. You would have to take a lot to severely damage yourself - trust me, I have done WAY more than anybody ever should and I was fine after. Don't get anxious about them, they're too goddamn fun.
 
2010-09-07 02:32:51 AM
magic mushrooms are great for taking a dip in the strawberry river
 
2010-09-07 02:32:52 AM
Mushrooms are great for curing non-life-size pigeons.
 
2010-09-07 02:33:36 AM
Fuller: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Exactly. I'm not saying I haven't had some good times on them. I'm just thinking about people who are taking them for end-of-life therapy like the article talks about. I'd hate to have a really bad trip and get the fear of God put even further into me if I was close to death. If they're going to do this, they need to do it right, because I can't point to any other drug that'll make so radical a change.

Yeah, I dunno, to me the anxiety you're talking about comes more from "oh god I have to work tomorrow", or "will I ever do anything with my life". If you've already spent some time coming to terms with imminent death, I don't think mushrooms would necessarily increase your anxiety about it. More likely it would, as they found, help provide a new perspective on it.

But that's just my opinion based on my experience.


a good friend/co-worker of mine credits improved outlook on life to mushrooms. i've considered them for the same reason she did them.

marijuana helped too, but i eat like a fiend when i'm high (i'm a bit of an overeater as it is).

/dull story, bro
 
2010-09-07 02:34:23 AM
Fuller: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Exactly. I'm not saying I haven't had some good times on them. I'm just thinking about people who are taking them for end-of-life therapy like the article talks about. I'd hate to have a really bad trip and get the fear of God put even further into me if I was close to death. If they're going to do this, they need to do it right, because I can't point to any other drug that'll make so radical a change.

Yeah, I dunno, to me the anxiety you're talking about comes more from "oh god I have to work tomorrow", or "will I ever do anything with my life". If you've already spent some time coming to terms with imminent death, I don't think mushrooms would necessarily increase your anxiety about it. More likely it would, as they found, help provide a new perspective on it.

But that's just my opinion based on my experience.


Point well taken. I just think it would suck for people who go into the experience paranoid and have their fears confirmed about psychedelics.

...Or we could just put on our trollfaces and give people DMT.

/Oh Christ, I would never give my worst enemy an unexpected DMT trip
 
2010-09-07 02:35:12 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Exactly. I'm not saying I haven't had some good times on them. I'm just thinking about people who are taking them for end-of-life therapy like the article talks about. I'd hate to have a really bad trip and get the fear of God put even further into me if I was close to death. If they're going to do this, they need to do it right, because I can't point to any other drug that'll make so radical a change.

Fairly small doses were used in this experiment, not the so-called "heroic" doses often used by young people for "recreation".
 
2010-09-07 02:35:30 AM
SnakeLee: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.

There are three reasons I have seen people bad trip:

1.) Bad mushrooms
2.) It hurt their stomach worse than normal (it almost always hurts your stomach, it's normal)
3.) People like you make people super anxious about it

Mushrooms have a few effects and one of them is amplifying your emotions at the moment. If you are super anxious about bad tripping, you are more likely to bad trip. But you know what? The worst thing that is going to happen is that you go to the hospital, they give you a sedative and you wake up the next day good to go. It's as bad for you as drinking a ton of alcohol - it literally effects the same parts of your brain and body. You would have to take a lot to severely damage yourself - trust me, I have done WAY more than anybody ever should and I was fine after. Don't get anxious about them, they're too goddamn fun.


seconded. i feel the same way about acid. if you think you're going to freak out, you will.

what some people fail to realize is how absolutely liberating a psychedelic experience can be.
 
2010-09-07 02:35:56 AM
SnakeLee: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.

There are three reasons I have seen people bad trip:

1.) Bad mushrooms
2.) It hurt their stomach worse than normal (it almost always hurts your stomach, it's normal)
3.) People like you make people super anxious about it


Oh wow, I guess I really am being Buzz Killington today.
 
2010-09-07 02:36:42 AM
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2010-09-07 02:37:02 AM
SnakeLee: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Eeeehhh... People really shouldn't use mushrooms and expect something good all the time. It's a real wild card. Your headache will go away, no doubt about that, but then you could trip over your own thoughts and have a really horrible few hours. It's not fun.

There are three reasons I have seen people bad trip:

1.) Bad mushrooms
2.) It hurt their stomach worse than normal (it almost always hurts your stomach, it's normal)
3.) People like you make people super anxious about it

Mushrooms have a few effects and one of them is amplifying your emotions at the moment. If you are super anxious about bad tripping, you are more likely to bad trip. But you know what? The worst thing that is going to happen is that you go to the hospital, they give you a sedative and you wake up the next day good to go. It's as bad for you as drinking a ton of alcohol - it literally effects the same parts of your brain and body. You would have to take a lot to severely damage yourself - trust me, I have done WAY more than anybody ever should and I was fine after. Don't get anxious about them, they're too goddamn fun.


I agree with you, but it really helps if your head is in the right place to begin with, I could see how people close to death could have a very intense ride, but if it is done under controlled conditions nothing bad is going to happen.

/great way of removing the upset stomach part is mushroom chocolates
//done them under uncontrolled situations
///prefer LSD
 
2010-09-07 02:37:05 AM
One childrens book will lay it out;

The Shaman's Apprentice: A Tale of the Rainforest by lynn cherry.
 
2010-09-07 02:39:44 AM
Woah, sorry everyone. I'm not trying to turn people away. I just don't think it's fair to throw someone blankly into a trip. The best thing you can do for the first time is to be around people who've taken it before and be in a good setting.
 
2010-09-07 02:41:39 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Woah, sorry everyone. I'm not trying to turn people away. I just don't think it's fair to throw someone blankly into a trip. The best thing you can do for the first time is to be around people who've taken it before and be in a good setting.

FTA

During the psilocybin sessions, which lasted six hours, the patients lay on a couch and listened to music through headphones
.

seems like a pretty chill time to me
 
2010-09-07 02:41:41 AM
DVOM: Fairly small doses were used in this experiment, not the so-called "heroic" doses often used by young people for "recreation".

This is one of the interesting properties about mushrooms - the experience is largely dependent on the dosage. It's not like drunkeness where it's one effect that just gets stronger and stronger. There are very specific identifiable levels of tripping, with different effects.

I wouldn't worry about the heroic doses too much, mushrooms are pretty safe comparatively (not according to their legal category, but we should know by now we can't trust that).
 
2010-09-07 02:43:31 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Woah, sorry everyone. I'm not trying to turn people away. I just don't think it's fair to throw someone blankly into a trip. The best thing you can do for the first time is to be around people who've taken it before and be in a good setting.

Research and education is definitely key. Sadly, dealers generally aren't very good at providing that kind of information. If only there were a more reliable place to get them, where they could be taxed and regulated. Like, a place that sells drugs legally, with licensed professionals working that can educate consumers. By god, we could call it the Pharmalogical Store!
 
2010-09-07 02:44:28 AM
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2010-09-07 02:46:45 AM
StreetlightInTheGhetto: Confabulat: I've been on Lexapro before, and magic mushrooms are waay better for depression. I'd just keep a bunch around and chew on a stem every now and then. I'm too old to trip hard, but the low-level buzz really helped get through those dark months.

Lexapro is the devil however. I'd rather just be depressed.

Lexapro is great, what are you talking about.

Without it, how would I know what it's like to be suicidal while stuck in a car in the middle of a four hour road trip?

/f--k that sh--t.
//and the goddamned NP with Lexapro notepads and pens who wrote it
///Weed, shrooms, hell, even e in supervised settings would be infinitely preferable to that hell
////it'd be hard to be worse


I sincerely believe that drugs like Lexapro one day will be looked at the same way we look at things like bloodletting and trepanning.
 
2010-09-07 02:46:53 AM
Tripp Johnston Private Eye: The best thing you can do for the first time is to be around people who've taken it before and be in a good setting.

Take it with someone you TRUST and who's done it before (preferably the same batch of 'shrooms you're going to do). They'll set the right environment and know the right dose to take so that you'll have a good time but not go overboard.
 
2010-09-07 02:47:19 AM
Oooska: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Woah, sorry everyone. I'm not trying to turn people away. I just don't think it's fair to throw someone blankly into a trip. The best thing you can do for the first time is to be around people who've taken it before and be in a good setting.

Research and education is definitely key. Sadly, dealers generally aren't very good at providing that kind of information. If only there were a more reliable place to get them, where they could be taxed and regulated. Like, a place that sells drugs legally, with licensed professionals working that can educate consumers. By god, we could call it the Pharmalogical Store!


BY GOD! I think you're on to something!

:)
 
2010-09-07 02:47:29 AM
Oooska: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: Woah, sorry everyone. I'm not trying to turn people away. I just don't think it's fair to throw someone blankly into a trip. The best thing you can do for the first time is to be around people who've taken it before and be in a good setting.

Research and education is definitely key. Sadly, dealers generally aren't very good at providing that kind of information. If only there were a more reliable place to get them, where they could be taxed and regulated. Like, a place that sells drugs legally, with licensed professionals working that can educate consumers. By god, we could call it the Pharmalogical Store!


oh, man..that would be awesome. it could be done the same way as the weed dispensaries. a good chemist working without the threat of jailtime could have room to create a more consistent product. hell, the guy i get acid from dripped it onto some sweet tarts and i just ate those.
 
2010-09-07 02:50:11 AM
pxlboy: hell, the guy i get acid from dripped it onto some sweet tarts and i just ate those.

One can actually get acid anywhere anymore?
 
2010-09-07 02:51:50 AM
stiletto_the_wise: Take it with someone you TRUST and who's done it before (preferably the same batch of 'shrooms you're going to do). They'll set the right environment and know the right dose to take so that you'll have a good time but not go overboard.

Very true. Listen to this, all those interested.
 
2010-09-07 02:53:41 AM
stiletto_the_wise: pxlboy: hell, the guy i get acid from dripped it onto some sweet tarts and i just ate those.

One can actually get acid anywhere anymore?


I'm in Washington state, and my friends who go to The Evergreen State College are the only people I can get it from.
 
2010-09-07 02:54:32 AM
Holy crap getting high on shrooms while you're anxious about drying? Sounds like a recipe for a reallly bad trip to me.

People here are talking about setting and company and they are right. This might be the key:

During the psilocybin sessions, which lasted six hours, the patients lay on a couch and listened to music through headphones.

They gave them music to distract them. That might be what made it a positive experience. How about try putting them together in a plain room with nothing to occupy them other than talking about death and dying? Pretty sure it would be horrifying depressing.
 
2010-09-07 02:55:41 AM
pnjunction: anxious about drying

OK drying is pretty stressful too but I meant dying.
 
2010-09-07 02:57:13 AM
pnjunction: OK drying is pretty stressful too but I meant dying.

I disagree. I couldn't handle it drunk.
 
2010-09-07 02:57:42 AM
pnjunction: pnjunction: anxious about drying

OK drying is pretty stressful too but I meant dying.


Mmm, people jerky
 
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