FireBreathingLiberal: Millions have suffered and died in this game of my god's better than your god. If it turns out that there is an almighty creator he's likely to want nothing to do with the pious zealots who conquer, kill and build empire in his name.

Some believe He'll take a more active roll (nsfw language)

hellbilly: is this the thread where we brag about burning their book and trying to take away their mosque? or is this the thread where we brag about building schools and clinics for them in their paradise of democracy that we so graciously handed them? i'm never sure what my right wing friends are proud of from day to day.

Oh even better there were Christian Churches built over in Iraq by people in the US. You know where 100,000 innocent Iraqis were killed. Lucky they are heathens and don't have "Holly ground" like we do here where we put our strip clubs and McDonalds at.


Yes I love "All Muslims hate the US" ... "Oh and by the way lets not pull out of Iraq or Afghanistan until we help them rebuild their nation."

They don't have much for cognitive dissonance.

I actually support this. It's retarded, like Fred Phelps et. al., but it's their right and you can't be afraid to freely practice your rights. That said, can you imagine a future where none of us gave a shiat about burning religious books because by that point religion was rejected by the population? Ohhhhh glorious days...

log_jammin: EL_FABREZ: But it's still OK to burn confederate flags on 9/12, right?

It's ok to burn confederate flags anytime. day or night. Hell...it should be encouraged.

If you can get to their flags before they ignite the confederate flag that serves as their room divider with their own meth pipe.

Bigdogdaddy: As a Christian I hope everyone realizes that this group does not represent every Christian any more than BinLaden represents every muslim.

Now, having said that, even thought I think the religion of Islam is based on hate for non muslim people, it is wrong to fight hate with hate.

How goddamn charitable of you.

"Members of my religion are diverse. Members of your religion are all the same." How xenophobic can you get?

I'm outraged! Where's the Westboro Baptist Church when you need them: God hates Qur'an Burning?

yeah lets coddle the 'lims
don't burn a book 'cos it might upset them

but if you get upset about a mosque being built at ground zero your a racist and intolerant

so we have two sets of rules
one for regular folks who run the risk of being charged with hate crimes for speaking their minds

and another for the retarded folks who are incapable of controlling their emotions so they are allowed to get away with anything

nekulor: Corvus: nekulor: Ignorant people will continue to be ignorant, and willfully so, unless dragged into civilized society.

You know what I'd like to see wiped off the planet? Ignorant people. If rational members of all groups were all that was left, things would be a lot more peaceful.

I agree. And they can't see anything beyond superficial aspects. It's like Christians vs. Muslims to them. When the problem is actually intolerant extremists Christians & Muslims (and other religions) vs. the tolerant non-extremists.

But that is too deep for these people to understand it needs to be something easy to pick out like race or religion for them to be able to tell the difference.

My grandparents are sadly like this. Muslims are evil because they follow Islam, and I'm a bad person because I think democrats can do just as well as republicans (or better) at certain times. I try not to be a partisan hack when I can help it.

I am very frightened of the Terrorists Muslims like Dave Chappele and Mohammad Ali myself.

As long as they throw them on a pile of burning Bibles, I don't see the problem.

oh god. The church's facebook page for the event is like a youtube video's comment page on meth....


http://www.facebook.com/pages/International-Burn-A-Koran-Day/134718123226530?v= w all

Trik: yeah lets coddle the 'lims
don't burn a book 'cos it might upset them

but if you get upset about a mosque being built at ground zero your a racist and intolerant

so we have two sets of rules
one for regular folks who run the risk of being charged with hate crimes for speaking their minds

and another for the retarded folks who are incapable of controlling their emotions so they are allowed to get away with anything

An Islamic community center approved by a multi-faith organization including JEWS I don't think was meant to be proactive.

I think anyone with half a brain can see that. I think the most militant atheists don't think YMCAs are some neighbor hood religious assault on neighborhoods.

I dig how this little fringe group of whackjobs garners the attention of international media, world leaders and more Internet fans than Jesse farking Slaughter, all merely threatening to burn a Koran.

(add) This user isn't on your ignore list.

Ignore the trolls from orbit. It's the only way to be sure

esteban9: This might shed some light on the pastor behind the burning.

How utterly surprising that the most reverend Christian holy man behind this book burning is a sleazy ign'int galoot.

Hmmm, hard to balance this one. The First Amendment really is one of the most wonderful things in the world. It fully allows people to go out and burn a bunch of qurans in protest. On the other hand, though, burning a bunch of qurans to protest a bunch of hidebound religious fanatics makes the protesters no better than those that they are protesting. All in all though I have to side with the First Amendment on this one.

And, for a bit of fun trolling, Who cares if some soldiers die because of this? After all the soldiers are over there fighting and dying to protect our rights, right? :-D

This isn't Christian. This is anti-Christian.

Burning the holy book of another religion won't convert or bring anyone to your point of view. It makes your religion seem as douche-ish as you are.

wtfisthat: The only problem with the "an eye for an eye" mentality is that everyone ends up blind.

No it does not.

Person A pokes Person B in the eye. Person B loses one eye.
Person B retaliates and Person A loses one eye.
Person A retaliates and Person B loses another eye.
Person B is now blind and cannot see Person A to attack him!

:-D

Someone give them a Quran filled with Firecrackers to burn and watch them get into a massive gun battle. Farking bed wetters.

log_jammin: BuckTurgidson: If you can get to their flags before they ignite the confederate flag that serves as their room divider with their own meth pipe.

Now now...not all meth users fly the confederate flag. Just because someone has a drug problem that doesn't make them an ignorant POS.

Good catch, I didn't mean to impugn all meth addicts as dixie-flag-flying-in-mobile-home redneck idiots.

I apologize if my insensitive remarks gave this impression.

Sluggard Stone: As long as they throw them on a pile of burning Bibles, I don't see the problem.

I second this approach.

log_jammin: as much as I want to believe that...I don't.

Yeah, I don't see any reliable sources for it. Shame.

Christians cannot be trusted to run foriegn policy. You cannot serve two masters.

/From Gainesville, so getting a kick...

I dunno. The Quran is kinda down with burning. List courtesy of the Skeptic's Annotated Quran.

1. Guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men and stones. 2:24

2. They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. 2:39

3. And they say: The Fire (of punishment) will not touch us save for a certain number of days. 2:80

4. Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire. 2:81

5. And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire. 2:119

6. As for him who disbelieveth, I shall leave him in contentment for a while, then I shall compel him to the doom of Fire - a hapless journey's end! 2:126

7. They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

8. Those who hide aught of the Scripture which Allah hath revealed and purchase a small gain therewith, they eat into their bellies nothing else than fire. 2:174

9. How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

10. Such are rightful owners of the Fire: they will abide therein. 2:217

11. These invite unto the Fire. 2:221

12. Such are rightful owners of the Fire. 2:257

13. Such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein. 2:275

14. Those who disbelieve will aught avail them with Allah. They will be fuel for Fire. 3:10

15. Lo! we believe. So forgive us our sins and guard us from the punishment of Fire. 3:16

16. That is because they say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. 3:24

17. Ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it. 3:103

18. Those who disbelieve ... are rightful owners of the Fire. 3:116

19. Ward off (from yourselves) the Fire prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

20. We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve ... Their habitation is the Fire. 3:151

21. Whose habitation is the Fire, a hapless journey's end 3:162

22. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant. 3:185

23. Preserve us from the doom of Fire. 3:191

24. Whom Thou causest to enter the Fire: him indeed Thou hast confounded. 3:192

25. They do but swallow fire into their bellies, and they will be exposed to burning flame. 4:10

26. Whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger and transgresseth His limits, He will make him enter Fire, where he will dwell for ever; his will be a shameful doom. 4:14

27. We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah. 4:30

28. Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. 4:56

29. Lo! the hypocrites (will be) in the lowest deep of the Fire, and thou wilt find no helper for them. 4:145

30. The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers. 5:29

31. They will wish to come forth from the Fire, but they will not come forth from it. Theirs will be a lasting doom. 5:37

32. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. 5:72

33. But those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are owners of hell- fire. 5:86

34. If thou couldst see when they are set before the Fire and say: Oh, would that we might return! Then would we not deny the revelations of our Lord but we would be of the believers! ... Lo! they are liars. 6:27

35. He will say: Fire is your home. 6:128

36. They who deny Our revelations and scorn them - each are rightful owners of the Fire; they will abide therein. 7:36

37. Our Lord! These led us astray, so give them double torment of the Fire. He saith: For each one there is double (torment), but ye know not. 7:38

38. And the dwellers of the Garden cry unto the dwellers of the Fire: We have found that which our Lord promised us (to be) the Truth. Have ye (too) found that which your Lord promised the Truth? They say: Yea, verily. 7:44

39. When their eyes are turned toward the dwellers of the Fire, they say: Our Lord! Place us not with the wrong-doing folk. 7:47

40. And the dwellers of the Fire cry out unto the dwellers of the Garden: Pour on us some water or some wherewith Allah hath provided you. They say: Lo! Allah hath forbidden both to disbelievers (in His guidance). 7:50

41. For disbelievers is the torment of the Fire. 8:14

42. Their works are vain and in the Fire they will abide. 9:17

43. On the day when it will (all) be heated in the fire of hell, and their foreheads and their flanks and their backs will be branded therewith 9:35

44. Whoso opposeth Allah and His messenger, his verily is fire of hell, to abide therein? That is the extreme abasement. 9:63

45. Allah promiseth the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers fire of hell for their abode. 9:68

46. Say: The fire of hell is more intense of heat. 9:81

47. Is he who founded his building upon duty to Allah and His good pleasure better; or he who founded his building on the brink of a crumbling, overhanging precipice so that it toppled with him into the fire of hell? 9:109

48. It is not for the Prophet, and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of idolaters even though they may be near of kin (to them) after it hath become clear that they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

49. Their home will be the Fire. 10:8

50. Such are rightful owners of the Fire. 10:27

51. Those are they for whom is naught in the Hereafter save the Fire. 11:16

52. Whoso disbelieveth therein ... the Fire is his appointed place 11:17

53. Marked with fire in the providence of thy Lord (for the destruction of the wicked). 11:83

54. He will ... lead them to the Fire for watering-place. Ah, hapless is the watering-place (whither they are) led. 11:98

55. As for those who will be wretched (on that day) they will be in the Fire; sighing and wailing. 11:106

56. Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you, and ye have no protecting friends against Allah, and afterward ye would not be helped. 11:113

57. They who disbelieve in their Lord; such have carcans on their necks; such are rightful owners of the Fire, they will abide therein. 13:5

58. The reward of disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35

59. Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey's end will be the Fire. 14:30

60. Thou wilt see the guilty on that day linked together in chains, Their raiment of pitch, and the Fire covering their faces, 14:49-50

61. Assuredly theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned. 16:62

62. We have prepared for disbelievers Fire. Its tent encloseth them. If they ask for showers, they will be showered with water like to molten lead which burneth the faces. Calamitous the drink and ill the resting-place! 18:29

63. The guilty behold the Fire and know that they are about to fall therein, and they find no way of escape thence. 18:53

64. If those who disbelieved but knew the time when they will not be able to drive off the fire from their faces and from their backs, and they will not be helped! 21:39

65. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads, 22:19

66. Those who strive to thwart Our revelations, such are rightful owners of the Fire. 22:51

67. The Fire! Allah hath promised it for those who disbelieve. A hapless journey's end! 22:72

68. The fire burneth their faces, and they are glum therein. 23:104

69. Think not that the disbelievers can escape in the land. Fire will be their home - a hapless journey's end! 24:57

70. For those who deny (the coming of) the Hour We have prepared a flame. 25:11

71. Whoso bringeth an ill-deed, such will be flung down on their faces in the Fire. 27:90

72. And We made them patterns that invite unto the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped. 28:41

73. Your abode will be the Fire, and ye will have no helpers. 29:25

74. Their retreat is the Fire. Whenever they desire to issue forth from thence, they are brought back thither. Unto them it is said: Taste the torment of the Fire which ye used to deny. 32:20

75. Allah hath cursed the disbelievers, and hath prepared for them a flaming fire. 33:64

76. On the day when their faces are turned over in the Fire, they say: Oh, would that we had obeyed Allah and had obeyed His messenger! 33:66

77. And such of them as deviated from Our command, them We caused to taste the punishment of flaming Fire. 34:12

78. Taste the doom of the Fire which ye used to deny. 34:42

79. Lo! the devil is an enemy for you, so treat him as an enemy. He only summoneth his faction to be owners of the flaming Fire. 35:6

80. But as for those who disbelieve, for them is fire of hell; it taketh not complete effect upon them so that they can die, nor is its torment lightened for them. 35:36

81. Woe unto those who disbelieve, from the Fire! 38:27

82. (Those who are already in the Fire say): No word of welcome for them. Lo! they will roast at the Fire. 38:59

83. They say: Our Lord! Whoever did prepare this for us, oh, give him double portion of the Fire! 38:61

84. Lo! that is very truth: the wrangling of the dwellers in the Fire. 38:64

85. Take pleasure in thy disbelief a while. Lo! thou art of the owners of the Fire. 39:8

86. They have an awning of fire above them and beneath them a dais (of fire). 39:16

87. Canst thou (O Muhammad) rescue him who is in the Fire? 39:19

88. Those who disbelieve ... are owners of the Fire. 40:6

89. What aileth me that I call you unto deliverance when ye call me unto the Fire? 40:41

90. The prodigals will be owners of the Fire. 40:43

91. The Fire; they are exposed to it morning and evening ... the most awful doom. 40:46

92. And when they wrangle in the Fire, the weak say unto those who were proud: Lo! we were a following unto you; will ye therefor rid us of a portion of the Fire? 40:47

93. Those in the Fire say unto the guards of hell: Entreat your Lord that He relieve us of a day of the torment. 40:49

94. Through boiling waters; then they are thrust into the Fire. 40:72

95. The enemies of Allah are gathered unto the Fire. 41:19

96. Yet the Fire is still their home; and if they ask for favour, yet they are not of those unto whom favour can be shown. 41:24

97. That is the reward of Allah's enemies: the Fire. Therein is their immortal home, payment forasmuch as they denied Our revelations. 41:28

98. Is he who is hurled into the Fire better? 41:40

99. And thou wilt see them exposed to (the Fire), made humble by disgrace. 42:45

100. Your habitation is the Fire, and there is none to help you. 45:34

101. Those who disbelieve are exposed to the Fire. 46:20

102. On the day when those who disbelieve are exposed to the Fire ... He will say: Then taste the doom for that ye disbelieved. 46:34

103. Those who disbelieve take their comfort in this life ... the Fire is their habitation. 47:12

104. Those who are immortal in the Fire and are given boiling water to drink so that it teareth their bowels. 47:15

105. They will be tormented at the Fire, (And it will be said unto them): Taste your torment. 51:13-14

106. The day when they are thrust with a (disdainful) thrust, into the fire of hell (And it is said unto them): This is the Fire which ye were wont to deny. 52:13-14

107. Happy because ... their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire. 52:18

108. Allah hath been gracious unto us and hath preserved us from the torment of the breath of Fire. 52:27

109. On the day when they are dragged into the Fire upon their faces (it is said unto them): Feel the touch of hell. 54:48

110. There will be sent, against you both, heat of fire and flash of brass, and ye will not escape. 55:35

111. Have ye observed the fire which ye strike out; 56:71

112. But if he is of the rejecters, the erring, Then the welcome will be boiling water And roasting at hell-fire. 56:92-94

113. Those who disbelieved. Your home is the Fire. 57:15

114. Those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are owners of hell-fire. 57:19

115. Such are rightful owners of the Fire. 58:17

116. Theirs in the Hereafter is the punishment of the Fire. 59:3

117. The devil when he telleth man to disbelieve ... both will be that they are in the Fire. 59:16-17

118. Not equal are the owners of the Fire and the owners of the Garden. 59:20

119. Those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, such are owners of the Fire; they will abide therein - a hapless journey's end! 64:10

120. A Fire whereof the fuel is men and stones. 66:6

121. The wife of Noah and the wife of Lot, who were under two of Our righteous slaves yet betrayed them so that ... it was said (unto them): Enter the Fire 66:10

122. Take him and fetter him And then expose him to hell-fire. 69:30-31

123. lo! it is the fire of hell, Eager to roast. 70:15-16

124. They were drowned, then made to enter a Fire. And they found they had no helpers in place of Allah. 71:25

125. They are firewood for hell. 72:15

126. Whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger, lo! his is fire of hell, wherein such dwell for ever. 72:23

127. With Us are heavy fetters and a raging fire, And food which choketh (the partaker), and a painful doom. 73:12-13

128. We have appointed only angels to be wardens of the Fire. 74:31

129. We have prepared for disbelievers manacles and carcans and a raging fire. 76:4

130. He surely will invoke destruction. 84:11-12

131. (Self-)destroyed were the owners of the ditch, Of the fuel-fed fire. 85:4-5

132. He who will be flung to the great Fire Wherein he will neither die nor live. 87:12-13

133. On that day (many) faces will be downcast, Toiling, weary, Scorched by burning fire, Drinking from a boiling spring. 88:2-5

134. Those who disbelieve Our revelations Fire will be an awning over them. 90:19-20

135. The flaming Fire Which only the most wretched must endure, He who denieth and turneth away. 92:14-16

136. Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. 98:6

137. Raging Fire. 101:11

138. For ye will behold hell-fire ... Then, on that day, ye will be asked concerning pleasure. 102:6-8

139. He thinketh that his wealth will render him immortal ... he will be flung to the Consuming One ... the fire of Allah, kindled. 104:3-6

140. Abu Lahab will perish ... He will be plunged in flaming Fire. 111:3

log_jammin: It's a smear. That is the only "news" site that says he was arrested for that. Hate him for the shiat he's actually done.

Oh, there was something about an arrest in there too?

itazurakko: I guess the question is, what is the point of burning the Quran? To piss people off? If so, how is that helping anything, strategery-wise?

Actually, it's positionally devastating to Petraeus. If our entire COIN paradigm can be rendered useless by a few loonies, then it's hard to argue that COIN is the basket where we should put all our eggs. It's the equivalent of a high school student reading your 50 page math proof and finding an error on page 2 that makes the rest of the work meaningless.

pvrhye: I dunno. The Quran is kinda down with burning. List courtesy of the Skeptic's Annotated Quran.

Link next time, douche.

Uh oh.

There are a lot of Americans who still really don't understand why 9/11 happened in the first place, huh?

pvrhye: I dunno. The Quran is kinda down with burning. List courtesy of the Skeptic's Annotated Quran.

Something tells me someone didn't have much to write about other than fire.

Gato Negro: But burning our flag and screaming 'Death to America' is just fine.

Yeah, pretty much. Burning our flag and screaming "Death to America" does nothing to hurt you or me.

Having their religious texts burned makes what is and should be a secular conflict into a holy war. Or are you up for a real jihad, akhoya?

Trik: yeah lets coddle the 'lims
don't burn a book 'cos it might upset them

but if you get upset about a mosque being built at ground zero your a racist and intolerant

so we have two sets of rules
one for regular folks who run the risk of being charged with hate crimes for speaking their minds

and another for the retarded folks who are incapable of controlling their emotions so they are allowed to get away with anything

There's a difference between getting upset about the mosque and outright saying the government should intervene to stop it from being built. (GOP candidate for NY gov)

I don't think burning the Koran should be banned at all. I understand it and frankly would like to shuffle a bible with the pages and burn them both. But I don't because I know doing so publicly will have repercussions I'm not willing to deal with.

See how rights work. What you can do != What you should do

GaryPDX: America, trying to straddle the fence for 5 decades. If Islam didn't want to destroy all other religions, we wouldn't have this problem.

Burning their Holy Book will sure teach them to respect other religions!!!

First, as an American, I wish to voice my strong disapproval of the extremists who are burning Qurans. These people are a fringe who in no way represent the ideals that America stands for.

That said, people in this country have the constitutional right to burn flags, Qurans, Bibles or politicians in efigy. The rest of us have the right to mock them endlessly.

I came here to make a comparison between flag burning and religious book burning, but somebody beat me to it by the very Boobies. That's not going to stop me, though, I still want to make my point.

I'm not really in favor of burning the koran, as it is simply a needless incitement of hate, but I'm also not really in favor of flag burning, for the same reason. However, I also believe that both acts are constitutionally protected forms of tasteless free speech. American muslims will just have to put up with it, because that's the country they live in. Foreign muslims can't do anything about it besides declare a holy war, and isn't it a bit late for that?

AgentOrangeDrink: There are a lot of Americans who still really don't understand why 9/11 happened in the first place, huh?

The average college freshman in the US was born in 1992. They were 9 or 10 years old on 9/11.

Oh this is going to give Westboro Baptist Church some ideas.

Atillathepun: GaryPDX: America, trying to straddle the fence for 5 decades. If Islam didn't want to destroy all other religions, we wouldn't have this problem.

Burning their Holy Book will sure teach them to respect other religions!!!

Not only that, Amazon and other online/local sellers of Qurans are going to do some booming business.

Is it an open event? Some one should show up with a bag full of Bibles and toss them on before they notice.

In other international news, a Welsh ginger is in charge of Australia.

Bigdogdaddy: As a Christian I hope everyone realizes that this group does not represent every Christian any more than BinLaden represents every muslim.

But...but Imam Rauf and Osama Bin Laden are one and the same!

Sun God: AgentOrangeDrink: There are a lot of Americans who still really don't understand why 9/11 happened in the first place, huh?

The average college freshman in the US was born in 1992. They were 9 or 10 years old on 9/11.

They're not the problem.

Who care if they do it and who cares if some Muslim group gets offended. This has been going on since chimps started throwing monkey poo at each other. We can't help it. Our enemies can't help it. It's just too much darn fun.

Oh, and the Taliban? Does anyone seriously believe they are not already doing everything they can to kill American soldiers anyway? If it weren't this excuse it would be some cartoon or the boobies American women show in movies.

And people wonder why anybody would join the insurgents.