OK, better idea. Paint the utility boxes for the cameras red and give the voters an axe.

America, land of the free and home of the brave.

shivashakti: Snarfangel: Congress accidentally gave ticket cameras the right to vote. Who knew it would come to this?

Why not? The Supreme Court said a corporation had the same rights as a person.

in some ways, corporations have MORE rights than a flesh and blood person.

Weaver95: shivashakti: Snarfangel: Congress accidentally gave ticket cameras the right to vote. Who knew it would come to this?

Why not? The Supreme Court said a corporation had the same rights as a person.

in some ways, corporations have MORE rights than a flesh and blood person.

And why don't you love that?

FTFA: "ATS' complaint is not based on the premise advanced in your question. ATS' claims in this lawsuit are based on the calling of a costly and voidable election."

This sounds familiar.

GAT_00:

And why don't you love that?

Because corporations have no responsibility. If I go on a murder spree or don't pay my taxes, I can expect that I'll be caught and go to jail. If a corporation shifts things around and doesn't pay taxes...the IRS is powerless to stop it.

corporations are not our friends. Like government, they're a necessary evil and should be treated as such.

Weaver95: GAT_00:

And why don't you love that?

Because corporations have no responsibility. If I go on a murder spree or don't pay my taxes, I can expect that I'll be caught and go to jail. If a corporation shifts things around and doesn't pay taxes...the IRS is powerless to stop it.

corporations are not our friends. Like government, they're a necessary evil and should be treated as such.

But when it comes to the environment, corporations should be free to destroy whatever they want in the name of profit?

You're a walking contradiction. Or just a libertarian.

GAT_00:

But when it comes to the environment, corporations should be free to destroy whatever they want in the name of profit?

You're a walking contradiction. Or just a libertarian.

i'm perfectly fine with environmental devastation, but I want to get paid for it. the problem with corporations is that they won't pay me a decent wage for helping rape the planet.

Weaver95: GAT_00:

But when it comes to the environment, corporations should be free to destroy whatever they want in the name of profit?

You're a walking contradiction. Or just a libertarian.

i'm perfectly fine with environmental devastation, but I want to get paid for it. the problem with corporations is that they won't pay me a decent wage for helping rape the planet.

Which pretty well sums up Libertarianism. GIMME MONEY.

Couldn't the city just cancel their contract and refuse to sign another one with any company?

GAT_00:
Which pretty well sums up Libertarianism. GIMME MONEY.

at least you know where you stand. unlike the republicans, who shout 'gimme god'. you never know where you stand with people like that.

Weaver95: GAT_00:
Which pretty well sums up Libertarianism. GIMME MONEY.

at least you know where you stand. unlike the republicans, who shout 'gimme god'. you never know where you stand with people like that.

True. But it is a very narrow and short term view. It's the same philosophy the Baby Boomers used when they put us in this mess. They didn't give a fark about the future, they just wanted their money now. That's what you want.

GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00:
Which pretty well sums up Libertarianism. GIMME MONEY.

at least you know where you stand. unlike the republicans, who shout 'gimme god'. you never know where you stand with people like that.

True. But it is a very narrow and short term view. It's the same philosophy the Baby Boomers used when they put us in this mess. They didn't give a fark about the future, they just wanted their money now. That's what you want.

Just wondering. What contributions have you made?

Sounds great in theory, but do you really want highways without speed limits?

Absolutely. It turns out to be great in practice too.

JacksBlack: Sounds great in theory, but do you really want highways without speed limits?

yes.

JacksBlack: but do you really want highways without speed limits?

Germany does pretty well with it.

JacksBlack: but do you really want highways without speed limits?

There have been quite a few studies that prove that it's safer that way, so yes.

Calmamity: JacksBlack: but do you really want highways without speed limits?

There have been quite a few studies that prove that it's safer that way, so yes.

damn shame traffic laws aren't about safety though, they're about profit.

No, you generally don't want people voting on everything. That's why we have legislatures and commissions; we don't get bogged down in voting on the minutiae of daily city/county operations, and we leave decisions requiring expert input to our elected officials tasked with gathering the requisite knowledge, rather than entrusting the situs of the local airport to popular vote.

Sometime, however, an issue comes up that the people decide needs direct input from the citizenry. That's what a referendum is for. I'm guessing that if a referendum was called in the first place, quite a few people are pissed about those cameras.

Salt Lick Steady: No, you generally don't want people voting on everything. That's why we have legislatures and commissions; we don't get bogged down in voting on the minutiae of daily city/county operations, and we leave decisions requiring expert input to our elected officials tasked with gathering the requisite knowledge, rather than entrusting the situs of the local airport to popular vote.

Sometime, however, an issue comes up that the people decide needs direct input from the citizenry. That's what a referendum is for. I'm guessing that if a referendum was called in the first place, quite a few people are pissed about those cameras.

Referendums are done to eliminate or limit the corruption of our elected officials. The only reason the local politicians won't remove the cameras is because they are corrupt and get paid to keep them. That means the people have to solve the problem directly.

Now this c*nt stain of a company wants to sue to overturn the will of the people... because they spent so much money doing that already and haven't been able to recoup their investment yet.