wyclef is such a douche attention whore. sean penn is a douche, but he doesn't appear to be hanging around in haiti for his own interests.

Kitwilly: not to be a Sean Penn defender, but if you read the Vanity Fair article on him, he is apparently the legitimate de facto leader of the Haiti refugee camps. it isnt some Hollywood bullshiat, he had organized most of the stuff there.

so my point is, he probably is right.

I give Sean Penn a lot of credit for what he is doing. Sean Penn is making a positive difference for Haiti.

Wyclef Jean has yet to show that he is anything more than a clown.

I have always liked Penn. He doesn't seem interested in kissing anyone's ass. Might not like every thing he's done but I feel his intentions are good in Haiti. He had a pretty good interview with Charlie Rose a year or so ago.
Great range as an actor. Not many can change their mannerisms or walk to fit a character. A true professional.
Why do people think celebrities owe them something?

Sean Penn is a massive dick, but he's a dick with a cause and a goal. He always gets my grudging respect.

You may have already forgotten, but there was some sorta big storm in Haiti earlier this year, and apparently millions of people are still without clothes, shelter, or a President.

It was an earthquake, dickwheat.
Why should I bother reading on any further, you've already shown that you can't tell sh*t from shinola.

don't care much for Penn as an actor or a person, but if he is actually helping those poor folks and not ego preening, good for him and I wish him much success in his endeavors on their part

still can't stand the guy though

Sean Penn needs to eat a bullet.

/

Sean Penn, please go away. There's nothing worse that an idiot who thinks he knows everything. You were more convincing in I Am Sam than the pseudo-intellectual twat waffle you play in real life.

He shouldn't have gone full retard.

Jakevol2: halfof33: letthepossumlive: I have always liked Penn. He doesn't seem interested in kissing anyone's ass.

Except Hugo Chavez, of course.

There is nothing NOTHING wrong with socialism.

Joe Stalin was a saint, I tell you!

/Penn is an opportunistic attention-whoring douche
//Chavez is just another authoritarian dipshiat with no respect for civil rights who keeps moving goalposts in order to stay in power

bhcompy: Jakevol2: halfof33: letthepossumlive: I have always liked Penn. He doesn't seem interested in kissing anyone's ass.

Except Hugo Chavez, of course.

There is nothing NOTHING wrong with socialism.

Joe Stalin was a saint, I tell you!

/Penn is an opportunistic attention-whoring douche
//Chavez is just another authoritarian dipshiat with no respect for civil rights who keeps moving goalposts in order to stay in power

So , here in America we have people wanting to be President because they really want to help the citizens of the United States? Don't be a bogart.. pass the weed.

You gotta love a guy who becomes a humanitarian after taking a baseball bat to Madonna.

Byn: Mrbogey: You gotta love a guy who becomes a humanitarian after taking a baseball bat to Madonna.

That WAS humanitarian.

Beat me to it.

TheLopper: Beat me to it.

As did Penn.

They both got talent & tendencies to attention whore.

SEAN PENN FROM THE ITNERNET I STRIKE AT THEEE! Where in Second Life is this Haiti place? Having trouble finding it.

Trik: don't care much for Penn as an actor

zedster: Jakevol2: halfof33: letthepossumlive: I have always liked Penn. He doesn't seem interested in kissing anyone's ass.

Except Hugo Chavez, of course.

There is nothing NOTHING wrong with socialism.

not sure if serious? There is nothing wrong with socialism, there is something wrong with cult of personality, shutting down dissident voices and using socialism to justify politically motivated asymmetrical industry grabs


Nothing wronger than there is with the capitalist corporate nightmare dystopia we live in.

In other news, Wyclef Jean, professional attention whore, demonstrates why he wouldn't make a useful president for Haiti - he's a friggin' man-child.

No class, no dignity, no diplomacy, no courtesy, just a self-serving attitude and a bunch of smack talk. He's a putz.

"I got a message for Sean Penn, maybe he ain't see me in Haiti because he was too busy sniffing cocaine."

It really doesn't take much to 'be told' does it? I mean that was hardly the wittiest come-back ever.

I'd have thought he'd have been capable of something a little more entertaining. As it is it sounds like something my father would come out with.

Battle of the liberals!

Hetfield: Trik: don't care much for Penn as an actor

yes, yes, I know
There are those that hit the bunk over everything he does

There isn't one project he's done other than Fast Times that couldn't be done by another actor just as well
The guy is handed cherry picked roles
Roles that on their own are a guaranteed oscar nom for the actor playing the part

Toxic celebrities don't get my money

He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

I left my hat in Haiti
In some forgotten flat in Haiti
I couldn't tell you how I got there
I only know it was so hot there

//so could someone please give them their damn hats back so they stop this pissing match?

But what's really important in this headline is that Scott Wampler has found two douchebags to feel superior to.

Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

how would chavez pay for it? how are the deals chavez makes with his devils, better than anyone else's?

haiti is farked.

penn is still an outsider, no matter how much help he gives.

haiti needs a native son... but she only makes u.s. news when u.s. egos clash?

Most of the money raised by Wyclef Jean's charity went to Wyclef Jean. He couldn't be bothered to file tax returns for his charity either. Nor was he willing to accept the Haitian Constitution which rules out his Presidential run. Clearly Mr. Jean believes that he is above the rule of law. After two hundred years of self-serving politicians, Haiti deserves better.

/Spicoli's right on

Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/

I'm sure the Japanese Americans would have made FDR a king.

Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/

It's not an "attack." The idea that there is only one person to lead a nation unto death is stupid. Anyone who's enough of an egomaniac to put himself in the position of leader-for-life is suspect as a leader. FDR is a partial exception only because he was so ill he knew he wouldn't last long. But the idea that the nation would have nosedived if he'd have stepped aside in 1940, as he should have, is idiotic.

Jakevol2: Nemo's Brother: Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/

I'm sure the Japanese Americans would have made FDR a king.

No, their sovereign was Emperor Hirohito

Oh, a racist who believes ethnicity = citizenship.

Gotcha.

Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/

It's not an "attack." The idea that there is only one person to lead a nation unto death is stupid. Anyone who's enough of an egomaniac to put himself in the position of leader-for-life is suspect as a leader. FDR is a partial exception only because he was so ill he knew he wouldn't last long. But the idea that the nation would have nosedived if he'd have stepped aside in 1940, as he should have, is idiotic.

He delivered this nation from The Great Depression and assured this nation as we fought in WWII no other person at that time could have done the things he did. This nation would be no more if not for FDR. Fate, Providence, pure determination or what have you gave us the only man who could have lead this nation at its two greatest crises.

First is a matter of opinion. The war delivered us from depression by providing jobs long before Pearl Harbor. The idea that FDR was essential assumes that no other person, given the same information, would have acted in a somewhat similar way. That's stupid. If you're into hero-worship, have at it. But that's all it is. He wasn't essential. He was just the one who was there at the time.

Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/


FDR was in the right position at the right time, but he WAS WRONG to try to go for president for life. Yes, there was a war on, and he was fighting tooth and nail to get America involved in a war in which the majority of its citizens were saying 'let europe deal with europe' and wanted to remain completely isolationist. And in hindsight, winners are always right. Legally, he in the right. But custom wise, he was in the wrong.

It was a very bad precedent to set and I'm personally glad that the custom George Washington set in place was finally codified into an Amendment. That stepping down after two terms was one of George Washington's greatest contributions to this republic, and it's a lesson MANY politicians should be forced to learn. Sure people like it when it's their guy who is in power for ever.................................. but what happens when it's someone else who is just as popular but he's on the other side (like, say, a St. Ronnie?)


Now that's all my opinion. Why do you believe that it would be ok for someone to keep seeking re-election for the office of President, with no term limits?

JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Nemo's Brother: Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/

I'm sure the Japanese Americans would have made FDR a king.

No, their sovereign was Emperor Hirohito

Oh, a racist who believes ethnicity = citizenship.

Gotcha.

Japanese Americans were Americans before they were Japanese, as a choice. I, too, don't know where JakeVol2 was going with that statement 'no, their sovereign was Emperor Hirohito'. Making a statement like that is the equivalent of saying that the internment camps were proper and just. So, I agree with your assessment of his statement.

JakeVol2, are you Japanese American and in possession of unique insight into the Japanese American experience during that time period to make such a statement? Or something else?

Jakevol2: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/


FDR was in the right position at the right time, but he WAS WRONG to try to go for president for life. Yes, there was a war on, and he was fighting tooth and nail to get America involved in a war in which the majority of its citizens were saying 'let europe deal with europe' and wanted to remain completely isolationist. And in hindsight, winners are always right. Legally, he in the right. But custom wise, he was in the wrong.

It was a very bad precedent to set and I'm personally glad that the custom George Washington set in place was finally codified into an Amendment. That stepping down after two terms was one of George Washington's greatest contributions to this republic, and it's a lesson MANY politicians should be forced to learn. Sure people like it when it's their guy who is in power for ever.................................. but what happens when it's someone else who is just as popular but he's on the other side (like, say, a St. Ronnie?)


Now that's all my opinion. Why do you believe that it would be ok for someone to keep seeking re-election for the office of President, with no term limits?

I don't believe in term limits because it is the best way to prevent government from getting anything done. FDR got shiat done and it made this country stronger.

So you would be okay with Ronald Reagan having three or more terms?

/Really ought to think things through, mister.

Jakevol2: Marshal805: Jakevol2: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/


FDR was in the right position at the right time, but he WAS WRONG to try to go for president for life. Yes, there was a war on, and he was fighting tooth and nail to get America involved in a war in which the majority of its citizens were saying 'let europe deal with europe' and wanted to remain completely isolationist. And in hindsight, winners are always right. Legally, he in the right. But custom wise, he was in the wrong.

It was a very bad precedent to set and I'm personally glad that the custom George Washington set in place was finally codified into an Amendment. That stepping down after two terms was one of George Washington's greatest contributions to this republic, and it's a lesson MANY politicians should be forced to learn. Sure people like it when it's their guy who is in power for ever.................................. but what happens when it's someone else who is just as popular but he's on the other side (like, say, a St. Ronnie?)


Now that's all my opinion. Why do you believe that it would be ok for someone to keep seeking re-election for the office of President, with no term limits?

I don't believe in term limits because it is the best way to prevent government from getting anything done. FDR got shiat done and it made this country stronger.

So you would be okay with Ronald Reagan having three or more terms?

/Really ought to think things through, mister.

Ronald Reagan was not a Democrat.

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

Jakevol2: Marshal805: Jakevol2: Marshal805: Jakevol2: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Jakevol2: JohnAnnArbor: Jakevol2: Second Try: He wants to deliver Haiti to Chavez. Poor haitians, as if they haven't suffered enough.

Hugo Chavez would probably enact public and social works program that would save Haiti and make it a viable nation in the Western Hemisphere. Just because you do not like his politics does not mean he won't be good for Haiti.

Well, he'd unlikely to increase the violent crime in Haiti, at least (because it's already so high). He'll have to console himself with just doing that in his own country.

(Anyone that wants to be president-for-life is suspect, too, no matter other aspects of ideology. Includes FDR.)

When you attacked FDR I had to believe you were not serious, because the alternative would mean you were uneducated. and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt/


FDR was in the right position at the right time, but he WAS WRONG to try to go for president for life. Yes, there was a war on, and he was fighting tooth and nail to get America involved in a war in which the majority of its citizens were saying 'let europe deal with europe' and wanted to remain completely isolationist. And in hindsight, winners are always right. Legally, he in the right. But custom wise, he was in the wrong.

It was a very bad precedent to set and I'm personally glad that the custom George Washington set in place was finally codified into an Amendment. That stepping down after two terms was one of George Washington's greatest contributions to this republic, and it's a lesson MANY politicians should be forced to learn. Sure people like it when it's their guy who is in power for ever.................................. but what happens when it's someone else who is just as popular but he's on the other side (like, say, a St. Ronnie?)


Now that's all my opinion. Why do you believe that it would be ok for someone to keep seeking re-election for the office of President, with no term limits?

I don't believe in term limits because it is the best way to prevent government from getting anything done. FDR got shiat done and it made this country stronger.

So you would be okay with Ronald Reagan having three or more terms?

/Really ought to think things through, mister.

Ronald Reagan was not a Democrat.

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

and what suspicion is that?

That you are a committed partisan.

Nothing wrong with that, BTW.