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(Rasmussen Reports)   President Obama hits record low in poll. 47% strongly disapprove   (rasmussenreports.com) divider line 234
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2010-09-05 05:36:05 PM  
Rasmussen is in the "write the conservative narrative" phase of their "polling" cycle. They won't close in on reality until shortly before November rolls in, in order to keep some semblance of credibility that they can bank on for the next round of narrative between elections.
 
2010-09-05 05:40:34 PM  
horse-pheathers: Rasmussen is in the "write the conservative narrative" phase of their "polling" cycle. They won't close in on reality until shortly before November rolls in, in order to keep some semblance of credibility that they can bank on for the next round of narrative between elections.

Yep. Also, Obama is the only President to get the "strongly approve/disapprove" metric.
 
2010-09-05 05:42:21 PM  
in before all the comparisons of Reagan, Clinton, Bush at the same time.

But the point that those arguments miss is how much things are turning against him.

- the overall numbers dropped a lot
- the media is now willing to question him when before he had a pass
- even Chris Matthews rails against him and tells him to ditch the teleprompter
- his vacation policies have become the source of jokes for Letterman and Stewart
- Maddow is increasingly negative because Obama is not fighting hard enough
- he is also losing the glow and support internationally

He overplayed his hand. Rather than trying to win the election he tried to set himself up as some sort of superman "WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR".
 
2010-09-05 05:49:25 PM  
Hope and Change
 
2010-09-05 05:57:43 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: in before all the comparisons of Reagan, Clinton, Bush at the same time.

But the point that those arguments miss is how much things are turning against him.

- the overall numbers dropped a lot
- the media is now willing to question him when before he had a pass
- even Chris Matthews rails against him and tells him to ditch the teleprompter
- his vacation policies have become the source of jokes for Letterman and Stewart
- Maddow is increasingly negative because Obama is not fighting hard enough
- he is also losing the glow and support internationally

He overplayed his hand. Rather than trying to win the election he tried to set himself up as some sort of superman "WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR".


Your argument is LOL the mainstream MSM media isn't his lapdog?

Where were you during Jeremiah Wright?
 
2010-09-05 06:03:02 PM  
Two things:

One: Some of those who disapprove are undoubtedly liberals who remember voting for an actual liberal candidate.

Two: Rasmussen.
 
2010-09-05 06:04:36 PM  
Honestly, the shiatty economy isn't his fault. But people are out of work and hurting and they have to blame someone.

Wait until the true negative impact of Obamacare hits the economy. He won't care though because Glen Beck will be pres. in 2014.
 
2010-09-05 06:08:03 PM  
FTFA: That's the highest level of Strong Disapproval and the lowest Approval Index daily rating yet recorded for this president.


Maybe LISTENING (instead of lecturing) would help...

i53.tinypic.com


/can't wait for November
 
2010-09-05 06:20:40 PM  
It's up from a 47% at this time last year, which was a steep increase from the mere 47% that it was in the weeks immediately following his election.

If his numbers keep going at this rate, the number of people who strongly disapprove of him might reach as high as 47% by the end of his term.
 
2010-09-05 06:46:25 PM  
cameroncrazy1984: tenpoundsofcheese: in before all the comparisons of Reagan, Clinton, Bush at the same time.

But the point that those arguments miss is how much things are turning against him.

- the overall numbers dropped a lot
- the media is now willing to question him when before he had a pass
- even Chris Matthews rails against him and tells him to ditch the teleprompter
- his vacation policies have become the source of jokes for Letterman and Stewart
- Maddow is increasingly negative because Obama is not fighting hard enough
- he is also losing the glow and support internationally

He overplayed his hand. Rather than trying to win the election he tried to set himself up as some sort of superman "WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR".

Your argument is LOL the mainstream MSM media isn't his lapdog?

Where were you during Jeremiah Wright?


Also, he's not liberal enough for Maddow, and comedians make jokes about presidents. So suck it, libs.
 
2010-09-05 07:15:19 PM  
Doesn't matter to me, I'll be voting for him again. I'd like to see him call all of the republicans flaming dickfaces but not doing so won't change my mind.
 
2010-09-05 07:43:56 PM  
The "Approval Index" has fallen from -12 to -21 in just four days. What exactly has he done to warrant such a sudden drop?

That's leaving aside Rasmussen's bullshiat strongly approve/disapprove number, which has had his approval numbers negative constantly. It's just a made up index to make the President look bad. But they're not biased.

It's simple. Democrats are meh generally on the President. Approve, yes. Strongly approve, not so much. So they don't get counted. Plus one for Rasmussen. Republicans hate, hate, HATE Obama, for absolutely no coherent reason most of the time. So they all register as Strongly Disapprove. That's how you make a biased index.

Oh yeah, and the Strongly Approve/Strongly Disapprove Index didn't exist before Obama came into office.
 
2010-09-05 07:56:36 PM  
GAT_00: The "Approval Index" has fallen from -12 to -21 in just four days. What exactly has he done to warrant such a sudden drop?

That's leaving aside Rasmussen's bullshiat strongly approve/disapprove number, which has had his approval numbers negative constantly. It's just a made up index to make the President look bad. But they're not biased.

It's simple. Democrats are meh generally on the President. Approve, yes. Strongly approve, not so much. So they don't get counted. Plus one for Rasmussen. Republicans hate, hate, HATE Obama, for absolutely no coherent reason most of the time. So they all register as Strongly Disapprove. That's how you make a biased index.

Oh yeah, and the Strongly Approve/Strongly Disapprove Index didn't exist before Obama came into office.


They hate him because he's black.
 
2010-09-05 08:03:46 PM  
HeadbangerSmurf: GAT_00: The "Approval Index" has fallen from -12 to -21 in just four days. What exactly has he done to warrant such a sudden drop?

That's leaving aside Rasmussen's bullshiat strongly approve/disapprove number, which has had his approval numbers negative constantly. It's just a made up index to make the President look bad. But they're not biased.

It's simple. Democrats are meh generally on the President. Approve, yes. Strongly approve, not so much. So they don't get counted. Plus one for Rasmussen. Republicans hate, hate, HATE Obama, for absolutely no coherent reason most of the time. So they all register as Strongly Disapprove. That's how you make a biased index.

Oh yeah, and the Strongly Approve/Strongly Disapprove Index didn't exist before Obama came into office.

They hate him because he's black.


Most Republicans hate him because he's a Democrat, and liberal (even if only somewhat so). There's a certain percentage that hate him more because of his ethnicity, but I wouldn't throw them all under that label.
 
2010-09-05 08:04:10 PM  
Let's see, since this ain't a poistive one, it'll be:
1. but...but..source
2. What about cell phones?
3. the only ones home during the day are the unemployed and old white racists.
 
2010-09-05 08:06:55 PM  
Car_Ramrod: HeadbangerSmurf: GAT_00: The "Approval Index" has fallen from -12 to -21 in just four days. What exactly has he done to warrant such a sudden drop?

That's leaving aside Rasmussen's bullshiat strongly approve/disapprove number, which has had his approval numbers negative constantly. It's just a made up index to make the President look bad. But they're not biased.

It's simple. Democrats are meh generally on the President. Approve, yes. Strongly approve, not so much. So they don't get counted. Plus one for Rasmussen. Republicans hate, hate, HATE Obama, for absolutely no coherent reason most of the time. So they all register as Strongly Disapprove. That's how you make a biased index.

Oh yeah, and the Strongly Approve/Strongly Disapprove Index didn't exist before Obama came into office.

They hate him because he's black.

Most Republicans hate him because he's a Democrat, and liberal (even if only somewhat so). There's a certain percentage that hate him more because of his ethnicity, but I wouldn't throw them all under that label.


Black and liberal? Black is correct. Liberal? Really? Maybe compared to today's crop of republicans he's liberal but they're so far to the right we can't see them without heading that way for 2 hours.
 
2010-09-05 08:07:54 PM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: but...but..source

Do you think the way Rasmussen does approval polls is unbiased?
 
2010-09-05 08:10:37 PM  
And he'll still win in 2012.
 
2010-09-05 08:12:40 PM  
Yeah and the guy with one foot in the grave and the wolf shooting imbecile would have made everything better.
 
2010-09-05 08:13:38 PM  
Obama will still have my vote. Mine too.

/Gemini
 
2010-09-05 08:15:50 PM  
HeadbangerSmurf: Car_Ramrod: HeadbangerSmurf: GAT_00: The "Approval Index" has fallen from -12 to -21 in just four days. What exactly has he done to warrant such a sudden drop?

That's leaving aside Rasmussen's bullshiat strongly approve/disapprove number, which has had his approval numbers negative constantly. It's just a made up index to make the President look bad. But they're not biased.

It's simple. Democrats are meh generally on the President. Approve, yes. Strongly approve, not so much. So they don't get counted. Plus one for Rasmussen. Republicans hate, hate, HATE Obama, for absolutely no coherent reason most of the time. So they all register as Strongly Disapprove. That's how you make a biased index.

Oh yeah, and the Strongly Approve/Strongly Disapprove Index didn't exist before Obama came into office.

They hate him because he's black.

Most Republicans hate him because he's a Democrat, and liberal (even if only somewhat so). There's a certain percentage that hate him more because of his ethnicity, but I wouldn't throw them all under that label.

Black and liberal? Black is correct. Liberal? Really? Maybe compared to today's crop of republicans he's liberal but they're so far to the right we can't see them without heading that way for 2 hours.


They hate him because he beat their guy, soundly and unambiguously. That proves to the scared right wingers that there is no way we are ever going back to their distorted fantasy of the 1950s and reversing all of the gains of blacks, women, Latinos, gays, the young, the elderly, non-Christians and all of the other groups who have traditionally been excluded from positions of influence.

Obama's election is an unambiguous demonstration that the US is not what it was back in the 1950s, and the social changes of the 1960s and 1970s are permanent. That truly terrifies them, because it means that there is no going back.

That's a large part of why the right wing have such an obvious, visceral and incoherent loathing of Obama- his existence destroys their image of the way the US is "supposed to be."
 
2010-09-05 08:17:52 PM  
FloydA: They hate him because he beat their guy, soundly and unambiguously. That proves to the scared right wingers that there is no way we are ever going back to their distorted fantasy of the 1950s and reversing all of the gains of blacks, women, Latinos, gays, the young, the elderly, non-Christians and all of the other groups who have traditionally been excluded from positions of influence.

Obama's election is an unambiguous demonstration that the US is not what it was back in the 1950s, and the social changes of the 1960s and 1970s are permanent. That truly terrifies them, because it means that there is no going back.

That's a large part of why the right wing have such an obvious, visceral and incoherent loathing of Obama- his existence destroys their image of the way the US is "supposed to be."


See, this is what proves you're stupid...
 
2010-09-05 08:22:39 PM  
Spanky_McFarksalot: Let's see, since this ain't a poistive one, it'll be:
1. but...but..source
2. What about cell phones?
3. the only ones home during the day are the unemployed and old white racists.


Fine, first of all, I'll rebut with another poll just 2 days ago.

Obama approval 50%, disapproval 49% (new window)

Why should we believe one of these polls and not the other? Or would you rather use the poll average of 45.7% approve and 49.5% disapprove?

Secondly, answer us why Rasmussen uses "Strongly Approve/Disapprove" for their "Approval Index" instead of just normal "Approve/Disapprove"?
 
2010-09-05 08:22:59 PM  
FloydA:They hate him because he beat their guy, soundly and unambiguously. That proves to the scared right wingers that there is no way we are ever going back to their distorted fantasy of the 1950s and reversing all of the gains of blacks, women, Latinos, gays, the young, the elderly, non-Christians and all of the other groups who have traditionally been excluded from positions of influence.

Obama's election is an unambiguous demonstration that the US is not what it was back in the 1950s, and the social changes of the 1960s and 1970s are permanent. That truly terrifies them, because it means that there is no going back.

That's a large part of why the right wing have such an obvious, visceral and incoherent loathing of Obama- his existence destroys their image of the way the US is "supposed to be."


THIS! And I hate the THIS! thing but I had to. Now, I'm going back to telling the Fark Independents(tm) how stupid they are.
 
2010-09-05 08:23:40 PM  
LordZorch: FloydA: They hate him because he beat their guy, soundly and unambiguously. That proves to the scared right wingers that there is no way we are ever going back to their distorted fantasy of the 1950s and reversing all of the gains of blacks, women, Latinos, gays, the young, the elderly, non-Christians and all of the other groups who have traditionally been excluded from positions of influence.

Obama's election is an unambiguous demonstration that the US is not what it was back in the 1950s, and the social changes of the 1960s and 1970s are permanent. That truly terrifies them, because it means that there is no going back.

That's a large part of why the right wing have such an obvious, visceral and incoherent loathing of Obama- his existence destroys their image of the way the US is "supposed to be."

See, this is what proves you're stupid...


Of course it does, now go back to your Reagan fantasies before your neighbors see you whacking it in the living room of your house.
 
2010-09-05 08:27:00 PM  
Dusk-You-n-Me: And he'll still win in 2012.

/crosses fingers
 
2010-09-05 08:27:14 PM  
HeadbangerSmurf: Car_Ramrod: HeadbangerSmurf: GAT_00: The "Approval Index" has fallen from -12 to -21 in just four days. What exactly has he done to warrant such a sudden drop?

That's leaving aside Rasmussen's bullshiat strongly approve/disapprove number, which has had his approval numbers negative constantly. It's just a made up index to make the President look bad. But they're not biased.

It's simple. Democrats are meh generally on the President. Approve, yes. Strongly approve, not so much. So they don't get counted. Plus one for Rasmussen. Republicans hate, hate, HATE Obama, for absolutely no coherent reason most of the time. So they all register as Strongly Disapprove. That's how you make a biased index.

Oh yeah, and the Strongly Approve/Strongly Disapprove Index didn't exist before Obama came into office.

They hate him because he's black.

Most Republicans hate him because he's a Democrat, and liberal (even if only somewhat so). There's a certain percentage that hate him more because of his ethnicity, but I wouldn't throw them all under that label.

Black and liberal? Black is correct. Liberal? Really? Maybe compared to today's crop of republicans he's liberal but they're so far to the right we can't see them without heading that way for 2 hours.


His actions aren't as liberal as many, including myself, are looking for, but the right perceives him as Socialist McMarxy, and that's all they need. Remember that he was announced as the "most liberal" Senator in 2008, just like Kerry was in 2004. What a coincidence, eh?
 
2010-09-05 08:27:28 PM  
Will some one please explain to me why people get so defensive when their politician of choice takes a dive in approval polls? All it shows is that the public perceives that the president is doing a bad job. It does not mean that he is doing a bad job. But no no no! We get threads where people rant on about how the people don't think Obama is doing a good job. Then people try to discredit the poll. But nobody seams to explain why this argument is relevant. The people's opinion on the quality of the president's work is not a reflection of the actual quality of his work. The only thing these polls relate to is the prospects of the upcoming election. And no amount of arguing on the Internet about the people's opinion of the president is going to change the opinion of the people (what ever it may be). So I ask again why do people get so defensive?
 
2010-09-05 08:27:48 PM  
Ah, I see it's time for or weekly "Rasmussen says Obama Smells Like Butt" thread.
 
2010-09-05 08:30:16 PM  
Godscrack: Obama will still have my vote. Mine too.

/Gemini


Good boy. I'm proud to be your father. ;)
 
2010-09-05 08:31:14 PM  
No Fixed Login: Will some one please explain to me why people get so defensive when their politician of choice takes a dive in approval polls? All it shows is that the public perceives that the president is doing a bad job. It does not mean that he is doing a bad job. But no no no! We get threads where people rant on about how the people don't think Obama is doing a good job. Then people try to discredit the poll. But nobody seams to explain why this argument is relevant. The people's opinion on the quality of the president's work is not a reflection of the actual quality of his work. The only thing these polls relate to is the prospects of the upcoming election. And no amount of arguing on the Internet about the people's opinion of the president is going to change the opinion of the people (what ever it may be). So I ask again why do people get so defensive?

I've just taken a poll of my family in this hotel room and your approval rating is currently in the single digits. I would suggest you look into posting things that will make my family happier. Saying something positive about the game Bejewelled and the band Lamb of God would probably convince my wife and son to change their opinion of you.

Now, until you do the above, I'm going to continue making fun of the Fark Independents(tm). :)
 
2010-09-05 08:33:22 PM  
No Fixed Login: And no amount of arguing on the Internet about the people's opinion of the president is going to change the opinion of the people (what ever it may be). So I ask again why do people get so defensive?

Are you... asking why there's a Politics tab?
 
2010-09-05 08:35:30 PM  
HeadbangerSmurf:

I've just taken a poll of my family in this hotel room and your approval rating is currently in the single digits. I would suggest you look into posting things that will make my family happier. Saying something positive about the game Bejewelled and the band Lamb of God would probably convince my wife and son to change their opinion of you.

Now, until you do the above, I'm going to continue making fun of the Fark Independents(tm). :)


Sacrament was a pretty good album. Bejeweled is pretty good for a point and clicker.
 
2010-09-05 08:38:38 PM  
No Fixed Login: HeadbangerSmurf:

I've just taken a poll of my family in this hotel room and your approval rating is currently in the single digits. I would suggest you look into posting things that will make my family happier. Saying something positive about the game Bejewelled and the band Lamb of God would probably convince my wife and son to change their opinion of you.

Now, until you do the above, I'm going to continue making fun of the Fark Independents(tm). :)

Sacrament was a pretty good album. Bejeweled is pretty good for a point and clicker.


Look at that! You are now polling in the 90s. Congrats! :)
 
2010-09-05 08:41:55 PM  
Car_Ramrod:
Are you... asking why there's a Politics tab?


No. I can see having the tab for political news and debating particular issues but arguing over what other people may or may not think about other people is beyond silly.
 
2010-09-05 08:47:16 PM  
No Fixed Login: Car_Ramrod:
Are you... asking why there's a Politics tab?

No. I can see having the tab for political news and debating particular issues but arguing over what other people may or may not think about other people is beyond silly.


I think it's time we started telling the Fark Independents(tm) exactly how stupid we think they are. No more candy coating it. They come in here and shiat all over the place, we do the same to them and their warped fantasies of the 50s Christian uptopia that never existed. At some point the modmins will either crack down or they'll let it go because they're too busy rolling in their piles of money.
 
2010-09-05 08:51:21 PM  
No Fixed Login: Car_Ramrod:
Are you... asking why there's a Politics tab?

No. I can see having the tab for political news and debating particular issues but arguing over what other people may or may not think about other people is beyond silly.


Well I think they kind of tie in to each other. For many, their approval on the president's job is based upon the actions that the president takes. A lot of the debate isn't "Why don't you like him? He's such a nice person!", it's "Why don't you like the actions he has taken as president? They are positive actions for reasons A, B, and C".

Debating on issues and debating on the reaction of people when the president takes actions on those issues is kind of one in the same.
 
2010-09-05 08:56:04 PM  
Is this the thread where conservatives tell us how great and accurate polls are?

Or is this a thread where conservatives tell us how glad they are that the President doesn't worry about polls and does what he thinks is right for the country?

'cause I always get them confused.
 
2010-09-05 09:04:06 PM  
No Fixed Login: Car_Ramrod:
Are you... asking why there's a Politics tab?

No. I can see having the tab for political news and debating particular issues but arguing over what other people may or may not think about other people is beyond silly.


That's not what's happening here -- what's happening here is an attempt to sling propaganda in hopes that it will influence the midterm elections. We're calling Rasmussen out for their habit of developing a strong conservative bias between elections (when their figures will not be subjected to any kind of real-world verification), while adjusting closer to reality as the elections (the true test of their reliability) draw near. Hence the consistent 8-point or so bias toward McCain when compared to the average of multiple polls right up until a few weeks before the Presidential election when they suddenly snapped into line with the rest of the pack, showing numbers that came close to the actual election result.

They then trade on the success predicting the election to lend credibility to their midterm claims when the bias creeps back in, helping sell the "democrat is unpopular" narrative.

We're also attacking their non-standard methodology and reporting, now that (since Obama took office) they introduced their "approval index" where rather than looking at overall approval/disapproval ratings, they compare only "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" responses. They started reporting this way soon after Obama took office and his overall approval ratings were quite high; this new index, though, generated much lower approval numbers that better served their narrative purpose, thanks to the fact that the vast majority of those who disapproved of Obama did so strongly (and continue to do so, padding the "strongly disapprove" bracket by about fifteen to twenty points at an off-the-cuff estimate).

In other words.....Rasmussen is up to their usual shenanigans and we're saying "We see what you're doing there, and we don't buy it".
 
2010-09-05 09:04:16 PM  
Car_Ramrod:
Well I think they kind of tie in to each other. For many, their approval on the president's job is based upon the actions that the president takes. A lot of the debate isn't "Why don't you like him? He's such a nice person!", it's "Why don't you like the actions he has taken as president? They are positive actions for reasons A, B, and C".

Debating on issues and debating on the reaction of people when the president takes actions on those issues is kind of one in the same.


Yes, but these threads aren't about that. This thread is about an opinion poll. People in this thread are arguing about whether people disapprove of Obama. Not why.

The former most portion of this thread can be summarized thusly:

Anti-Obamaite: People think Obama is doing a bad job! That's why he sucks!

Pro-Obamaite: No they don't! People think He's great!

AO: No they don't

PO: Yes they do!

AO: Nu uh

PO: uh uh

And So on and so forth until the sun collapses into a small ball of ash and this little rock of ours turns to ice. At no point in the argument is the reasoning for this approval/disapproval made clear; and even if it was you're still arguing about what other people think of unspecified issues not what the people in this thread think.
 
2010-09-05 09:13:44 PM  
No Fixed Login: Car_Ramrod:
Well I think they kind of tie in to each other. For many, their approval on the president's job is based upon the actions that the president takes. A lot of the debate isn't "Why don't you like him? He's such a nice person!", it's "Why don't you like the actions he has taken as president? They are positive actions for reasons A, B, and C".

Debating on issues and debating on the reaction of people when the president takes actions on those issues is kind of one in the same.

Yes, but these threads aren't about that. This thread is about an opinion poll. People in this thread are arguing about whether people disapprove of Obama. Not why.

The former most portion of this thread can be summarized thusly:

Anti-Obamaite: People think Obama is doing a bad job! That's why he sucks!

Pro-Obamaite: No they don't! People think He's great!

AO: No they don't

PO: Yes they do!

AO: Nu uh

PO: uh uh

And So on and so forth until the sun collapses into a small ball of ash and this little rock of ours turns to ice. At no point in the argument is the reasoning for this approval/disapproval made clear; and even if it was you're still arguing about what other people think of unspecified issues not what the people in this thread think.


I'd like to clarify what I was actually trying to do in this thread before it died a horrible death - I'm making fun of the Fark Independents. I think they're all idiots. I've watched their crap for months (years in a way) and it's time someone called them names and made fun of them. For tonight, that someone is me. Tomorrow I'll head home and get back in to the grind so I won't have time to do it anymore.
 
2010-09-05 09:16:04 PM  
No Fixed Login: Car_Ramrod:
Well I think they kind of tie in to each other. For many, their approval on the president's job is based upon the actions that the president takes. A lot of the debate isn't "Why don't you like him? He's such a nice person!", it's "Why don't you like the actions he has taken as president? They are positive actions for reasons A, B, and C".

Debating on issues and debating on the reaction of people when the president takes actions on those issues is kind of one in the same.

Yes, but these threads aren't about that. This thread is about an opinion poll. People in this thread are arguing about whether people disapprove of Obama. Not why.


Can you really debate why people approve or disapprove of Obama without knowing IF people approve/disapprove of Obama? Or how many feel that way? If 5% disapprove of his performance, that means many different things than if 25%, 50%, 75% or 95% disapprove of it.
 
2010-09-05 09:18:10 PM  
He's still more popular than Bush.
 
2010-09-05 09:19:26 PM  
For those of you who think he's a one term president, remember he came from out of nowhere during the primary to beat the the Clinton machine. The slickest, most compelling campaign in resent memory.

Don't misunderestimate him.
 
2010-09-05 09:19:34 PM  
Bucky Katt: He's still more popular than Bush.

More popular than Saint Reagan was at this point in his first term, too. ;)
 
2010-09-05 09:21:37 PM  
Bucky Katt: He's still more popular than Bush.

Yeah, that's somethin' to hang your hat on.
 
2010-09-05 09:22:37 PM  
horse-pheathers

Rasmussen pulls a lot of shiat. There can be no doubt of this. But the idea of calling them out on Fark is futile. These threads are not edifying and people will not be persuaded. The only real value in threads like this is as a testing ground for innovative insults and to give Gato Negro a chance to show of his latest cartoon.
 
2010-09-05 09:25:14 PM  
americangrandjury.org
 
2010-09-05 09:28:29 PM  
drivingsouth 2010-09-05 09:25:14 PM

No, I don't miss that shiathead.
 
2010-09-05 09:30:56 PM  
Car_Ramrod:

Can you really debate why people approve or disapprove of Obama without knowing IF people approve/disapprove of Obama? Or how many feel that way? If 5% disapprove of his performance, that means many different things than if 25%, 50%, 75% or 95% disapprove of it.

In a hypothetical sense yes. For example, what you could do is assume for the sake of argument that Obama is presently unpopular. What would the most probable explanation be?

Mind you I wouldn't bother with that either as it isn't really important. I only really brought it up in the first place to respond to this: "Why don't you like the actions he has taken as president? They are positive actions for reasons A, B, and C".
 
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