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2010-09-05 11:12:23 PM
Software2: You haven't been to Michigan, have you?

I have. I've lived here my entire life except for the time I served in the Army. From where I'm sitting, life is pretty good.
 
2010-09-05 11:13:23 PM
I finally cracked 6figures this year so fark you lazy stupid bums.
 
2010-09-05 11:13:45 PM
Software2: Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Everything is fine. There is no depression.



/You haven't been to Michigan, have you?



Apparently neither have you.

If you're going to use Michigan as an economic baseline for the entire US economy then the US has been in a depression since the 80's.
 
2010-09-05 11:13:49 PM
Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Here's an idea, guys: stop watching 24 hour news networks who stopped caring about reporting news years ago.

I know! we can come up with a slogan.
jobless recovery?

It seems you want everyone to stick their heads in the sand. Your team had its chance and they sucked. Obama turned out to be as empty a suit as the cliche implies. Seriously, what a lightweight. His party alienates the country and lauds him as a champion of the people. He buys the rhetoric wholesale and his followers ask why everyone is missing his great accomplishments. Delusional much?

Go buy some carbon credits and watch avatar
 
2010-09-05 11:15:39 PM
Surpheon: WideStance: Government spending on the poor, then tightening, tighter than before.

By tightening do you mean cutting spending on the poor (entitlements) or firing hundreds of thousands of government workers (teachers, police, fda inspectors at egg farms - who are apparently pretty crap anyway)?

Tightening isn't the answer, growth is. Our current historically low taxes would be fine if everyone was working and producing enough to actually be paying them.


I have an idea. Let's keep the teachers and police (who are state or local employees anyway), the FDA inspectors and other essential government employees and services but do away with the 4000 government programs in this book...

images.amazon.com

Delete some of the departments and fire the thousands of employees that administer them.

That might save a bit of cash. A billion here and a billion there and pretty soon you're talking real money!
 
2010-09-05 11:16:59 PM
mynameist: Where is this bad economy that people are speaking of? I'm living in a town with 1% unemployment. We'll hire crackheads here.

liberal urban areas with high taxation, multiple layers of regulation and steep requirements for hiring employees

Does this even sink into your little brain?
 
2010-09-05 11:17:11 PM
I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage
 
2010-09-05 11:18:57 PM
Is it the same people who think Obama is a muslim?

Seriously, folks, "1 in 5" of *anything* is not news, it's normal.
 
2010-09-05 11:20:25 PM
I think the economy su cks .
and i'm drunk right noww.
how drunk ore the peop,e who think itzxz good?
 
2010-09-05 11:22:12 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


The other end of the spectrum isn't so rosy, either. Yeah, the experience and resume means easily crushing you out of the job market, but the cuts and reductions in retirement means having to spend more years crushing you out of the job market.
 
2010-09-05 11:22:32 PM
its not fark, its sweet n sower, jack, trip sec, lemonadie, and blue caraoarocaocaooa
 
2010-09-05 11:23:10 PM
meteorite: I think the economy su cks .
and i'm drunk right noww.
how drunk ore the peop,e who think itzxz good?


I'm on my third glass of wine, and I still think it's bad.
 
2010-09-05 11:23:22 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


I'd offer you $70k(ish) if you took a more mature approach to your situation.
 
2010-09-05 11:23:30 PM
I think I'm gonna try the Obama method of getting my financial situation better. Borrow more money, spend like brutha in a pawn shop, and not worry about paying it back.
 
2010-09-05 11:24:18 PM
Here's a hint people: The economy is not doing horrible. It isn't doing great but it isn't doing horrible. Stop watching doom and gloom all the time and get a realistic look at things. For that matter, just go to a mall and notice all the money being spent.

Here's a bigger hint: For the economy to fully recover, people have to stop being fraidy cats. The economy is very largely based on consumer perception and confidence. So if you are one of the people spreading doom and gloom guess what? YOU are part of the problem.

Don't try and blame everyone else, don't say "I'm just telling it like it is." You aren't. And when fear and panic are the words of the day, well the economy will suck.

Things will continue to get better, but only so long as people continue to spend money, go to work, etc. If everyone goes "Ahhh doom and gloom! Society is farked! Buy gold (which is of no use in a real society break down)! Don't spend a dime!" Guess what? Then we are farked.

The economy is nothing more than people trading goods and services.

I think far too many people feel that the only way it can be "good" is if it is doing stellar, a massive bubble-like growth. anything less is bad. I also think far too many people like to spread doom and gloom, thinking they are accomplishing something.
 
2010-09-05 11:27:55 PM
End World Hunger Eat the Poor
 
2010-09-05 11:28:32 PM
sycraft: Things will continue to get better, but only so long as people continue to spend money, go to work, etc. If everyone goes "Ahhh doom and gloom! Society is farked! Buy gold (which is of no use in a real society break down)! Don't spend a dime!" Guess what? Then we are farked.

That's basically true, but given that a lot of people are now in the 'pay off all the massive debt I racked up in the last ten years' mode, it's a little unrealistic to expect a booming economy anytime soon. Let everyone declare bankruptcy and wipe the slate clean, and once the indigestion clears from the economy it'll boom again ;-)
 
2010-09-05 11:28:49 PM
darkedgefan: I look on the bright side. At least the dems will get decimated in Nov and Obama will be a one-termer(I hope). Yes!!!!

It won't matter who's President. The economy relies on consumers, not the President.
 
2010-09-05 11:31:11 PM
flowflowflow: End World Hunger Eat the Poor

I don't know, they're kind of stringy.
 
2010-09-05 11:31:13 PM
stirfrybry Quote 2010-09-05 11:13:49 PM

It seems you want everyone to stick their heads in the sand. Your team had its chance and they sucked.

>>>>

That's funny. You mean largest and fastest job growth in any recovery ever is sucked? The economy is just going through a slow patch again, mainly because of uncertainty with the housing crises still and lower amount of jobs available because companies are tightening their wallets and shipping jobs overseas. Welcome to the reality that the Reagan revolution started. You think it takes a few months of slim majority rule to fix that?
 
2010-09-05 11:31:16 PM
mynameist: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

I'd offer you $70k(ish) if you took a more mature approach to your situation.


Such as? I apply to every job I feel I'm able to do, I'm working "part time" (that being about 40-50 hours a week without benefits) to pay the bills. I don't ask for handouts, and I'm currently saving up to have a shot at grad school since that seems to be what I'll need to do to get a job. I'm also considering joining the air force, since that might be an avenue to gain some experience in the field. That's about as mature of an approach as it gets, I think. I suppose I could not work, take some government handouts and bum off my parents. I only bring it to peoples attention because a lot of people in the middle don't realize how hard it is for the people on either end, and trust me, I know how hard it is for the people on either end. A lot of my family is on that end.

At any rate, I'm not looking for 70k. I'm looking for any salary with health insurance. I would even do without dental. A lot of people think our class is simply asking too much, and although some of us are, most of us simply want to do what we went to college for in the first place. With the state of the market though, unless you got lucky or knew someone before hand, the majority of us got screwed.
 
2010-09-05 11:32:49 PM
flowflowflow: End World Hunger Eat the Poor

That's certainly a modest proposal
 
2010-09-05 11:33:51 PM
Basically, all you GOPers are criminal enemies of America and the U.S. Constitution, why you have rights is anyone's guess.
 
2010-09-05 11:34:44 PM
InfamousBLT: Such as? I apply to every job I feel I'm able to do, I'm working "part time" (that being about 40-50 hours a week without benefits) to pay the bills. I don't ask for handouts, and I'm currently saving up to have a shot at grad school since that seems to be what I'll need to do to get a job. I'm also considering joining the air force, since that might be an avenue to gain some experience in the field. That's about as mature of an approach as it gets, I think. I suppose I could not work, take some government handouts and bum off my parents. I only bring it to peoples attention because a lot of people in the middle don't realize how hard it is for the people on either end, and trust me, I know how hard it is for the people on either end. A lot of my family is on that end.

At any rate, I'm not looking for 70k. I'm looking for any salary with health insurance. I would even do without dental. A lot of people think our class is simply asking too much, and although some of us are, most of us simply want to do what we went to college for in the first place. With the state of the market though, unless you got lucky or knew someone before hand, the majority of us got screwed.


My advice is to look into geology a little more. If you can spend a year or so in school while the economy is still bad, you're golden, especially with a math minor. Meteorology is interesting and drawing a lot of attention and all, but industry is much more concerned with what goes on underneath the surface.
 
2010-09-05 11:35:21 PM
The Republican party leadership is doing everything in its power to keep the economy down, and to keep on this one message. Republican FUD is basically a self fulfilling prophecy.

The "Fark You, I got mine" crowd is fine with this situation.
 
2010-09-05 11:35:40 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


Really, you thought meteorology and math was the way to go to be highly employable? Really?

/philosophy major, no room to talk
//employed
 
2010-09-05 11:35:45 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


My masters degree in philosophy should have made me employable too.

Now I am stuck at Starbucks spitting in people's coffee.
 
2010-09-05 11:35:56 PM
peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

If only the newly unemployed and homeless could just think themselves into a job and a home. It's all in there heads. There are enough jobs for everyone in this glorious, prosperous economy. We just have to think our way to prosperity.

Idiot.
 
2010-09-05 11:39:52 PM
InfamousBLT: a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable

How many new meteors are discovered in a given year? The field is probably already saturated. What you should have done is study something related to global warming, there's probably a lot of openings there.
 
2010-09-05 11:41:25 PM
CruJones: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

Really, you thought meteorology and math was the way to go to be highly employable? Really?

/philosophy major, no room to talk
//employed


Back when I started school, the outlook for the sector was great. In actuality meteorology means a lot more than what people think it does, and has its fingers in basically every industry imaginable. All sorts of people hire meteorologists for all sorts of things.

At any rate, having a math / science background should have helped me get a foot in the door into all sorts of interesting things, or so I thought.
 
2010-09-05 11:43:25 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


I forgot to mention that wind energy is booming in the Midwest. Apply to all of them. Any skills in math should set you apart, but there may be a problem in the shortsightedness of these "green" companies in that they may want someone who would contribute immediately. You may want to be prepared for tough questions if you get an interview.
 
2010-09-05 11:44:42 PM
they got that double burger at the burger king for a dollar. it looks good. what more does america want???
 
2010-09-05 11:45:00 PM
this country is farked, not because of the current economy, but because of its population.

It's lazy, stupid, uneducated, and willing to blame others over working itself back up to shape. Read the comments section of that article, it's equally hilarious and infuriating. Both the Demtards and Republican'ts.

That's why the economy is tanking, and will continue to tank for a very long time, until another catastrophe hits us and motivates everyone.

(and no, I'm not trying to troll)
 
2010-09-05 11:46:30 PM
Mija: peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

If only the newly unemployed and homeless could just think themselves into a job and a home. It's all in there heads. There are enough jobs for everyone in this glorious, prosperous economy. We just have to think our way to prosperity.

Idiot.


Now, now. Let's stay positive.

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Thanks, CakeWrecks (new window)
 
2010-09-05 11:47:04 PM
scwewywabbit: this country is farked, not because of the current economy, but because of its population.

It's lazy, stupid, uneducated, and willing to blame others over working itself back up to shape. Read the comments section of that article, it's equally hilarious and infuriating. Both the Demtards and Republican'ts.

That's why the economy is tanking, and will continue to tank for a very long time, until another catastrophe hits us and motivates everyone.

(and no, I'm not trying to troll)


What we need is more independent independenties!
 
2010-09-05 11:47:21 PM
mynameist: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

I forgot to mention that wind energy is booming in the Midwest. Apply to all of them. Any skills in math should set you apart, but there may be a problem in the shortsightedness of these "green" companies in that they may want someone who would contribute immediately. You may want to be prepared for tough questions if you get an interview.


If I do end up going to grad school that's what I'm going to specialize in. I took some boundary layer courses so I understand the basics of it. The big problem right now though is that I have no experience, and nobody is hiring fresh meat, because there are plenty of experienced folk who are getting laid off who have families to feed. Its bad luck and the by product of a poor economy. At any rate I am doing my best to get myself more qualified, and if in the meantime something pops up then I'll be set anyways. Its just difficult now for sure.
 
2010-09-05 11:47:41 PM
Snarfangel: flowflowflow: End World Hunger Eat the Poor

I don't know, they're kind of stringy.


You ever try and peel one?
 
2010-09-05 11:48:24 PM
Some people who are out of work for a long period of time can move to another city that better fits their skill sets. Granted having a family does not help, or getting caught up in the housing boom and tied to a house hurts as well. But there are a lot of people, especially young people, who have no excuses not to pack up and move to a new city.
 
2010-09-05 11:48:53 PM
jingks: InfamousBLT: a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable

How many new meteors are discovered in a given year? The field is probably already saturated. What you should have done is study something related to global warming, there's probably a lot of openings there.


kekeke, brilliant!!!
 
2010-09-05 11:49:44 PM
I'm drunk, and I Votew
 
2010-09-05 11:53:06 PM
No, the other 20% work for the government, which is the only sector of the economy that is booming.
 
2010-09-05 11:53:14 PM
aneki: Big Al: Subby obviously doesn't grasp the concept of income difference. 20% of Americans are still getting paid well and the stock market is doing great.

Pretty much this. Unemployment among people with bachelor's degrees is something like 4%. As usual in times of economic stress, those Americans with educations and/or valuable skills are somewhat insulated.


Well, I'm not included in that 4% figure, but I have a bachelor's and I'm unemployed.
 
2010-09-05 11:53:21 PM
TeddyRooseveltsMustache: darkedgefan: I look on the bright side. At least the dems will get decimated in Nov and Obama will be a one-termer(I hope). Yes!!!!

It won't matter who's President. The economy relies on consumers, not the President.


And the consumers have to have jobs, and work to do, for them to stimulate the economy. The so-called government stimulus packages have done anything but.

And the jobs won't be created if the employers don't have faith in the economy. And there won't be any faith in the economy if there's no faith in the President and his government.

So, yes, actually, it does matter. But it's everybody's fault. He's just the idiot that decided he wanted to be President, and enough people voted for him that he won. And I think that he could do something about it if he wanted to badly enough. I'm not convinced that he does. I'm also not convinced that it can possibly happen in an Obama presidency, no matter what. He's become too divisive a figure. But, then, who wouldn't be at this juncture? Hillary would have been an even more divisive figure to begin with, though I don't think that the nation would have reacted as strongly to Hillarycare (if it bore any resemblance to what she was pushing during her husband's administration). I also think Cash for Clunkers wouldn't have happened... but I digress. McCain wasn't the right man for the job, either.

So, yeah, here we are stuck in this mess. You want to fix it? Get out and vote this November. Cast NOT ONE VOTE for an incumbent. Send the message that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take this any more... or whatever. Let your voice be heard by your vote. This election may truly be the most important election in our history, and if each and every one of us don't get up and VOTE, then each and every one of us will deserve EXACTLY what we get.
 
2010-09-05 11:53:42 PM
InfamousBLT:
Back when I started school, the outlook for the sector was great. In actuality meteorology means a lot more than what people think it does, and has its fingers in basically every industry imaginable. All sorts of people hire meteorologists for all sorts of things.

At any rate, having a math / science background should have helped me get a foot in the door into all sorts of interesting things, or so I thought.


Just curious - do you have a career mentor? Someone in the field who may not be able to hire you, but can at least offer you guidance and advice? Are there meteorology professional associations that you can join? What about those professors you studied under - have you kept in touch with them?

The truth is, getting a job these days is less about what you know and more about the contacts in your field of interest that you have established, even while as a student.
 
2010-09-05 11:55:15 PM
gpellis: aneki: Big Al: Subby obviously doesn't grasp the concept of income difference. 20% of Americans are still getting paid well and the stock market is doing great.

Pretty much this. Unemployment among people with bachelor's degrees is something like 4%. As usual in times of economic stress, those Americans with educations and/or valuable skills are somewhat insulated.

Well, I'm not included in that 4% figure, but I have a bachelor's and I'm unemployed.


liberal arts degrees don't count
 
2010-09-05 11:55:47 PM
wombatsrus: InfamousBLT:
Back when I started school, the outlook for the sector was great. In actuality meteorology means a lot more than what people think it does, and has its fingers in basically every industry imaginable. All sorts of people hire meteorologists for all sorts of things.

At any rate, having a math / science background should have helped me get a foot in the door into all sorts of interesting things, or so I thought.

Just curious - do you have a career mentor? Someone in the field who may not be able to hire you, but can at least offer you guidance and advice? Are there meteorology professional associations that you can join? What about those professors you studied under - have you kept in touch with them?

The truth is, getting a job these days is less about what you know and more about the contacts in your field of interest that you have established, even while as a student.


I'm in touch with some profs, but sadly they really didn't offer much insight other than "you probably shouldn't go to grad school." Beyond that, no. I'm too poor to afford to join any of the associations, and I don't have any mentor. As I said, I'm basically contact-less, which has probably hurt me more than anything else right now.
 
2010-09-05 11:58:03 PM
1-RocketMan-1: No, the other 20% work for the government, which is the only sector of the economy that is booming.

Usedta, but not any more. Remember how lots of people lost their jobs and quit paying taxes? Remember how lots of people lost their houses and quit paying property taxes? Remember how those who kept their jobs and houses took a pay cut and had their properties re-assessed? Guess which tax-funded employer is sucking wind right now.
 
Ral
2010-09-05 11:58:08 PM
WideStance:
The solution? Government spending on the poor, then tightening, tighter than before.


Government spending is never the solution to any economic problem.

Let's see how you all feel about this in 2 years.
 
2010-09-06 12:00:13 AM
Precision Boobery: 80 percent of Americans say that the economy is in poor shape. The other 20 percent are drunk own 85% of the wealth

Came here for this.
 
2010-09-06 12:00:47 AM
say what you will about the economy, it got people talkin'...
 
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