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(CNN)   80 percent of Americans say that the economy is in poor shape. The other 20 percent are drunk   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 194
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2010-09-05 03:27:27 PM
"Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Here's an idea, guys: stop watching 24 hour news networks who stopped caring about reporting news years ago.
 
2010-09-05 03:29:11 PM
"The other 20 percent drunk"

Drunk what?, cause I'd like some.
 
2010-09-05 09:05:03 PM
Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Here's an idea, guys: stop watching 24 hour news networks who stopped caring about reporting news years ago.


What he said.
 
2010-09-05 10:27:51 PM
radiofreekeywest.com

/in before Gato Trollo
 
2010-09-05 10:29:25 PM
Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.


Everything is fine. There is no depression.

www.psywarrior.com

/You haven't been to Michigan, have you?
 
2010-09-05 10:29:36 PM
Subby obviously doesn't grasp the concept of income difference. 20% of Americans are still getting paid well and the stock market is doing great.
 
2010-09-05 10:29:38 PM
I'm not drunk.

You're the one who's drunk!

fark this shiat, I'm outta here.
Where's my pants?
 
2010-09-05 10:30:37 PM
Poor shape? Hell, yeah, they just raised the price on Lagunitas.

Also, there are no decent jobs opening up. "By what metric?" So me yours and I'll show you mine.

/just kidding, pervert
 
2010-09-05 10:31:49 PM
As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.
 
2010-09-05 10:32:57 PM
Big Al: Subby obviously doesn't grasp the concept of income difference. 20% of Americans are still getting paid well and the stock market is doing great.

Pretty much this. Unemployment among people with bachelor's degrees is something like 4%. As usual in times of economic stress, those Americans with educations and/or valuable skills are somewhat insulated.
 
2010-09-05 10:32:59 PM
I look on the bright side. At least the dems will get decimated in Nov and Obama will be a one-termer(I hope). Yes!!!!
 
2010-09-05 10:33:47 PM
What does the article have to do with postal deliveries on Saturdays (the image)?
 
2010-09-05 10:33:51 PM
Majin_Buu your a idiot!!
 
2010-09-05 10:34:53 PM
i216.photobucket.com
 
2010-09-05 10:35:23 PM
2 years ago when unemployment was below 6% Obama told us it's the worst economy since the great depression and most of you believed him.
 
2010-09-05 10:36:02 PM
peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

THIS!
 
2010-09-05 10:37:37 PM
BlockBug: Majin_Buu your a idiot!!


Grammar are hard.
 
2010-09-05 10:37:54 PM
The economy is just fine where I am.
 
2010-09-05 10:38:43 PM
Software2: Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Everything is fine. There is no depression.



/You haven't been to Michigan, have you?



Umm when WASN'T Michigan an abysmal pit of hopeless poverty ?
 
2010-09-05 10:40:18 PM
Majin_Buu: /in before Gato Trollo

YES!!
 
2010-09-05 10:40:38 PM
Meh, it's not as bad as the media would have you believe. Of course, the same people who cried about how the media always overblows disasters during the BP spill are now decrying how there just isn't enough hype over the "meh" state of the economy. For what it's worth, my store has nearly 20 job openings... the problem is more that of the applications in the system, everyone seems to think that they should get paid 15-25 dollars an hour for retail jobs. Unrealistic income expectations aren't a function of the bad economy, but of a piss poor education system that tells people their BA in physical fitness is worth something.
 
2010-09-05 10:42:37 PM
Venn Diagram fail.

Is it possible to be in both the 80% and 20% at the same time?

A drunk pessimist so to speak?
Or maybe a drunk realist, even better?
 
2010-09-05 10:42:42 PM
well if you're drunk, you can afford to drink, therefore you have money, therefore you're rich, so the rich are enjoying their bonus
 
2010-09-05 10:42:57 PM
EL_FABREZ: BlockBug: Majin_Buu your a idiot!!


Grammar Grammer are hard.


/Pet peeve.
 
2010-09-05 10:43:56 PM
Software2: /You haven't been to Michigan, have you?

Michigan has been farked since Ford was President.
 
2010-09-05 10:44:22 PM
Software2:

Everything is fine. There is no depression.



/You haven't been to Michigan, have you?


Do you even know what a depression (or a recession) is? Despite the poor economy, we certainly are not in a recession or depression.

/Farking GDP growth, how does it work
 
2010-09-05 10:44:40 PM
I think it's better than it was a year and a half ago when I got laid off. Of course, maybe I'm just used to it.
 
2010-09-05 10:47:58 PM
Some of us drunkards think the economy is in poor shape, too.
 
2010-09-05 10:48:00 PM
Who in the hell thinks the economy is good?
 
2010-09-05 10:50:18 PM
Rainbowtyedye: I think it's better than it was a year and a half ago when I got laid off. Of course, maybe I'm just used to it.

No, it's definitely improved since then. What was bad was Aug/Sept of 2008, when the credit market collapsed and the entire economy froze up.
 
2010-09-05 10:51:15 PM
shirtsbyeric

2 years ago when unemployment was below 6% Obama told us it's the worst economy since the great depression and most of you believed him.

He also said it was going to be a long, hard slog to get out of it, and would get worse before it got better. This has turned out to be true. I'm sorry rainbow shiatting puppy and unicorn saddle haven't turned up in the mail yet, maybe wait till after the holiday weekend.
 
2010-09-05 10:51:26 PM
Majin_Buu: /in before Gato Trollo

Nope, Clinton farked you all.
 
2010-09-05 10:52:25 PM
eddyatwork: Who in the hell thinks the economy is good?

It's doing fantastic in my sector (medical software). My company set a new record for most hiring in a year, and that was in July, five months before the year ended.

That's largely a combination of Medicare changes, stimulus funds to hospitals and clinics that move to electronic records, and the perception that the Joint Commission is eventually going to require EMR/EHR as part of accreditation.
 
2010-09-05 10:53:29 PM
I'm drunk (on margaritas and absinthe) but I still think the economy is not really in great shape. Things are looking a bit better in my state than they were last year, though.
 
2010-09-05 10:54:35 PM
80 percent of Americans say that the economy is in poor shape. The other 20 percent are drunk own 85% of the wealth
 
2010-09-05 10:54:49 PM
Well, it's on a very, very slow road to recovery. Most shiat is stable. Sadly, unemployment is stable (at 9.5%ish) too.

It's bad out there. But 9.5
The solution? Government spending on the poor, then tightening, tighter than before.



Or we can just keep bashing Obama or Bush.
 
2010-09-05 10:55:44 PM
aneki: Unemployment among people with bachelor's degrees is something like 4%. As usual in times of economic stress, those Americans with educations and/or valuable skills are somewhat insulated.

Unemployment is also running at a bit less than 10%. Guess what the other 90% of folks are doing? (Make it more like 75% if you yank out the underemployed and given-up slackers.)
 
2010-09-05 10:56:30 PM
aneki: Big Al: Subby obviously doesn't grasp the concept of income difference. 20% of Americans are still getting paid well and the stock market is doing great.

Pretty much this. Unemployment among people with bachelor's degrees is something like 4%. As usual in times of economic stress, those Americans with educations and/or valuable skills are somewhat insulated.


That's where i fall in. Doing better economically than ever before. Headhunters calling weekly... so yah, i can see 20% saying its good.
 
2010-09-05 10:56:42 PM
eddyatwork: Who in the hell thinks the economy is good?

Personally, I'm making a decent income this year, I bought a new house that I couldn't have afforded at the peak of the market, my debt is at a record-low interest rate, my stock portfolio (in select markets, industries, and companies) is doing well...

So, yeah, I think the economy is good.

The guy down the street with only one marketable skill, or the family of seven who can't afford all their kids, or the Medieval History major in his seventh year of university, or the princess who used her credit cards to buy a closet full of ~the~ most super-cute outfits, and others like them might not agree with me, though.
 
2010-09-05 10:57:00 PM
Snarfangel 2010-09-05 10:47:58 PM

Some of us drunkards think the economy is in poor shape, too.


Then you are not drunk enough but by this metric Biden must be plastered beyond recovery. (Intentional pun intended)
 
2010-09-05 11:00:04 PM
No amount of alcohol would make me believe the economy is in good shape.

And it's not that a poll of the American public ever means anything because we're just incredibly stupid, as a country, but this is just too obvious to deny.

I look forward to split government in a few months, but have no illusions that we can do any better than gridlock.
 
2010-09-05 11:00:14 PM
WideStance: Government spending on the poor, then tightening, tighter than before.

By tightening do you mean cutting spending on the poor (entitlements) or firing hundreds of thousands of government workers (teachers, police, fda inspectors at egg farms - who are apparently pretty crap anyway)?

Tightening isn't the answer, growth is. Our current historically low taxes would be fine if everyone was working and producing enough to actually be paying them.
 
2010-09-05 11:02:05 PM
Where is this bad economy that people are speaking of? I'm living in a town with 1% unemployment. We'll hire crackheads here.
 
2010-09-05 11:03:28 PM
numbone: but by this metric Biden must be plastered beyond recovery.

Now that Teddy K is dead, I think Biden is the most-likely-to-be-plastered politician on any night. 11PM on a Sunday night mid-three day weekend? Talk about a safe bet...
 
2010-09-05 11:05:09 PM
I like to consider it trimming the fat ... just need less people trying to keep the fat around by wastefully throwing away money at doing so.
 
2010-09-05 11:06:28 PM
Perducci: Personally, I'm making a decent income this year, I bought a new house that I couldn't have afforded at the peak of the market, my debt is at a record-low interest rate, my stock portfolio (in select markets, industries, and companies) is doing well...

So, yeah, I think the economy is good.

The guy down the street with only one marketable skill, or the family of seven who can't afford all their kids, or the Medieval History major in his seventh year of university, or the princess who used her credit cards to buy a closet full of ~the~ most super-cute outfits, and others like them might not agree with me, though.


You are aware that there's a difference between you personally and the economy, right? 70% of the economy is based on your idiot neighbor maxing out his credit card. We gave it some crack and it woke up a bit from where it was, but that doesn't actually fix the root problem, it just makes it worse and delays the results.
 
2010-09-05 11:07:22 PM
pottie: The economy is just fine where I am.

Yesterday, I traded money for beer. Right now I am enjoying that beer. Does that make me part of the 20%?

(on beer #2. not good at teh maths)
 
2010-09-05 11:09:28 PM
I'm not nearly as drunk as I should be but the economy still sucks.
 
2010-09-05 11:12:08 PM
I'm doing better than ever, and by a good margin, therefore this is obviously wrong.

Ok, maybe it's not that simple but things here in Texas are pretty much the same as always, and my company started ramping up hiring four months ago. We can't fill our open spots fast enough. Hell, we have seven openings for sales engineers right now, and those are just in my segments, and that's just one position. Hiring everywhere else too.
 
2010-09-05 11:12:12 PM
Everyone is wrong.

It is BOTH PARTIES FAULTS. ENTIRELY.

Both parties care NOTHING for "America," and care ONLY ABOUT THEIR BOTTOM LINE. Both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are CORPORATIONS. Nothing more, nothing less.

If someday we had a majority in this country who realized that we'd be set, but like and good corporation they are both good enough at advertising and having great sales now and again that they will stay in power.

/only in America
//land of the free...as long as you're a corporation, not a human
 
2010-09-05 11:12:23 PM
Software2: You haven't been to Michigan, have you?

I have. I've lived here my entire life except for the time I served in the Army. From where I'm sitting, life is pretty good.
 
2010-09-05 11:13:23 PM
I finally cracked 6figures this year so fark you lazy stupid bums.
 
2010-09-05 11:13:45 PM
Software2: Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Everything is fine. There is no depression.



/You haven't been to Michigan, have you?



Apparently neither have you.

If you're going to use Michigan as an economic baseline for the entire US economy then the US has been in a depression since the 80's.
 
2010-09-05 11:13:49 PM
Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Here's an idea, guys: stop watching 24 hour news networks who stopped caring about reporting news years ago.

I know! we can come up with a slogan.
jobless recovery?

It seems you want everyone to stick their heads in the sand. Your team had its chance and they sucked. Obama turned out to be as empty a suit as the cliche implies. Seriously, what a lightweight. His party alienates the country and lauds him as a champion of the people. He buys the rhetoric wholesale and his followers ask why everyone is missing his great accomplishments. Delusional much?

Go buy some carbon credits and watch avatar
 
2010-09-05 11:15:39 PM
Surpheon: WideStance: Government spending on the poor, then tightening, tighter than before.

By tightening do you mean cutting spending on the poor (entitlements) or firing hundreds of thousands of government workers (teachers, police, fda inspectors at egg farms - who are apparently pretty crap anyway)?

Tightening isn't the answer, growth is. Our current historically low taxes would be fine if everyone was working and producing enough to actually be paying them.


I have an idea. Let's keep the teachers and police (who are state or local employees anyway), the FDA inspectors and other essential government employees and services but do away with the 4000 government programs in this book...

images.amazon.com

Delete some of the departments and fire the thousands of employees that administer them.

That might save a bit of cash. A billion here and a billion there and pretty soon you're talking real money!
 
2010-09-05 11:16:59 PM
mynameist: Where is this bad economy that people are speaking of? I'm living in a town with 1% unemployment. We'll hire crackheads here.

liberal urban areas with high taxation, multiple layers of regulation and steep requirements for hiring employees

Does this even sink into your little brain?
 
2010-09-05 11:17:11 PM
I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage
 
2010-09-05 11:18:57 PM
Is it the same people who think Obama is a muslim?

Seriously, folks, "1 in 5" of *anything* is not news, it's normal.
 
2010-09-05 11:20:25 PM
I think the economy su cks .
and i'm drunk right noww.
how drunk ore the peop,e who think itzxz good?
 
2010-09-05 11:22:12 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


The other end of the spectrum isn't so rosy, either. Yeah, the experience and resume means easily crushing you out of the job market, but the cuts and reductions in retirement means having to spend more years crushing you out of the job market.
 
2010-09-05 11:22:32 PM
its not fark, its sweet n sower, jack, trip sec, lemonadie, and blue caraoarocaocaooa
 
2010-09-05 11:23:10 PM
meteorite: I think the economy su cks .
and i'm drunk right noww.
how drunk ore the peop,e who think itzxz good?


I'm on my third glass of wine, and I still think it's bad.
 
2010-09-05 11:23:22 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


I'd offer you $70k(ish) if you took a more mature approach to your situation.
 
2010-09-05 11:23:30 PM
I think I'm gonna try the Obama method of getting my financial situation better. Borrow more money, spend like brutha in a pawn shop, and not worry about paying it back.
 
2010-09-05 11:24:18 PM
Here's a hint people: The economy is not doing horrible. It isn't doing great but it isn't doing horrible. Stop watching doom and gloom all the time and get a realistic look at things. For that matter, just go to a mall and notice all the money being spent.

Here's a bigger hint: For the economy to fully recover, people have to stop being fraidy cats. The economy is very largely based on consumer perception and confidence. So if you are one of the people spreading doom and gloom guess what? YOU are part of the problem.

Don't try and blame everyone else, don't say "I'm just telling it like it is." You aren't. And when fear and panic are the words of the day, well the economy will suck.

Things will continue to get better, but only so long as people continue to spend money, go to work, etc. If everyone goes "Ahhh doom and gloom! Society is farked! Buy gold (which is of no use in a real society break down)! Don't spend a dime!" Guess what? Then we are farked.

The economy is nothing more than people trading goods and services.

I think far too many people feel that the only way it can be "good" is if it is doing stellar, a massive bubble-like growth. anything less is bad. I also think far too many people like to spread doom and gloom, thinking they are accomplishing something.
 
2010-09-05 11:27:55 PM
End World Hunger Eat the Poor
 
2010-09-05 11:28:32 PM
sycraft: Things will continue to get better, but only so long as people continue to spend money, go to work, etc. If everyone goes "Ahhh doom and gloom! Society is farked! Buy gold (which is of no use in a real society break down)! Don't spend a dime!" Guess what? Then we are farked.

That's basically true, but given that a lot of people are now in the 'pay off all the massive debt I racked up in the last ten years' mode, it's a little unrealistic to expect a booming economy anytime soon. Let everyone declare bankruptcy and wipe the slate clean, and once the indigestion clears from the economy it'll boom again ;-)
 
2010-09-05 11:28:49 PM
darkedgefan: I look on the bright side. At least the dems will get decimated in Nov and Obama will be a one-termer(I hope). Yes!!!!

It won't matter who's President. The economy relies on consumers, not the President.
 
2010-09-05 11:31:11 PM
flowflowflow: End World Hunger Eat the Poor

I don't know, they're kind of stringy.
 
2010-09-05 11:31:13 PM
stirfrybry Quote 2010-09-05 11:13:49 PM

It seems you want everyone to stick their heads in the sand. Your team had its chance and they sucked.

>>>>

That's funny. You mean largest and fastest job growth in any recovery ever is sucked? The economy is just going through a slow patch again, mainly because of uncertainty with the housing crises still and lower amount of jobs available because companies are tightening their wallets and shipping jobs overseas. Welcome to the reality that the Reagan revolution started. You think it takes a few months of slim majority rule to fix that?
 
2010-09-05 11:31:16 PM
mynameist: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

I'd offer you $70k(ish) if you took a more mature approach to your situation.


Such as? I apply to every job I feel I'm able to do, I'm working "part time" (that being about 40-50 hours a week without benefits) to pay the bills. I don't ask for handouts, and I'm currently saving up to have a shot at grad school since that seems to be what I'll need to do to get a job. I'm also considering joining the air force, since that might be an avenue to gain some experience in the field. That's about as mature of an approach as it gets, I think. I suppose I could not work, take some government handouts and bum off my parents. I only bring it to peoples attention because a lot of people in the middle don't realize how hard it is for the people on either end, and trust me, I know how hard it is for the people on either end. A lot of my family is on that end.

At any rate, I'm not looking for 70k. I'm looking for any salary with health insurance. I would even do without dental. A lot of people think our class is simply asking too much, and although some of us are, most of us simply want to do what we went to college for in the first place. With the state of the market though, unless you got lucky or knew someone before hand, the majority of us got screwed.
 
2010-09-05 11:32:49 PM
flowflowflow: End World Hunger Eat the Poor

That's certainly a modest proposal
 
2010-09-05 11:33:51 PM
Basically, all you GOPers are criminal enemies of America and the U.S. Constitution, why you have rights is anyone's guess.
 
2010-09-05 11:34:44 PM
InfamousBLT: Such as? I apply to every job I feel I'm able to do, I'm working "part time" (that being about 40-50 hours a week without benefits) to pay the bills. I don't ask for handouts, and I'm currently saving up to have a shot at grad school since that seems to be what I'll need to do to get a job. I'm also considering joining the air force, since that might be an avenue to gain some experience in the field. That's about as mature of an approach as it gets, I think. I suppose I could not work, take some government handouts and bum off my parents. I only bring it to peoples attention because a lot of people in the middle don't realize how hard it is for the people on either end, and trust me, I know how hard it is for the people on either end. A lot of my family is on that end.

At any rate, I'm not looking for 70k. I'm looking for any salary with health insurance. I would even do without dental. A lot of people think our class is simply asking too much, and although some of us are, most of us simply want to do what we went to college for in the first place. With the state of the market though, unless you got lucky or knew someone before hand, the majority of us got screwed.


My advice is to look into geology a little more. If you can spend a year or so in school while the economy is still bad, you're golden, especially with a math minor. Meteorology is interesting and drawing a lot of attention and all, but industry is much more concerned with what goes on underneath the surface.
 
2010-09-05 11:35:21 PM
The Republican party leadership is doing everything in its power to keep the economy down, and to keep on this one message. Republican FUD is basically a self fulfilling prophecy.

The "Fark You, I got mine" crowd is fine with this situation.
 
2010-09-05 11:35:40 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


Really, you thought meteorology and math was the way to go to be highly employable? Really?

/philosophy major, no room to talk
//employed
 
2010-09-05 11:35:45 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


My masters degree in philosophy should have made me employable too.

Now I am stuck at Starbucks spitting in people's coffee.
 
2010-09-05 11:35:56 PM
peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

If only the newly unemployed and homeless could just think themselves into a job and a home. It's all in there heads. There are enough jobs for everyone in this glorious, prosperous economy. We just have to think our way to prosperity.

Idiot.
 
2010-09-05 11:39:52 PM
InfamousBLT: a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable

How many new meteors are discovered in a given year? The field is probably already saturated. What you should have done is study something related to global warming, there's probably a lot of openings there.
 
2010-09-05 11:41:25 PM
CruJones: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

Really, you thought meteorology and math was the way to go to be highly employable? Really?

/philosophy major, no room to talk
//employed


Back when I started school, the outlook for the sector was great. In actuality meteorology means a lot more than what people think it does, and has its fingers in basically every industry imaginable. All sorts of people hire meteorologists for all sorts of things.

At any rate, having a math / science background should have helped me get a foot in the door into all sorts of interesting things, or so I thought.
 
2010-09-05 11:43:25 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


I forgot to mention that wind energy is booming in the Midwest. Apply to all of them. Any skills in math should set you apart, but there may be a problem in the shortsightedness of these "green" companies in that they may want someone who would contribute immediately. You may want to be prepared for tough questions if you get an interview.
 
2010-09-05 11:44:42 PM
they got that double burger at the burger king for a dollar. it looks good. what more does america want???
 
2010-09-05 11:45:00 PM
this country is farked, not because of the current economy, but because of its population.

It's lazy, stupid, uneducated, and willing to blame others over working itself back up to shape. Read the comments section of that article, it's equally hilarious and infuriating. Both the Demtards and Republican'ts.

That's why the economy is tanking, and will continue to tank for a very long time, until another catastrophe hits us and motivates everyone.

(and no, I'm not trying to troll)
 
2010-09-05 11:46:30 PM
Mija: peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

If only the newly unemployed and homeless could just think themselves into a job and a home. It's all in there heads. There are enough jobs for everyone in this glorious, prosperous economy. We just have to think our way to prosperity.

Idiot.


Now, now. Let's stay positive.

img.photobucket.com

Thanks, CakeWrecks (new window)
 
2010-09-05 11:47:04 PM
scwewywabbit: this country is farked, not because of the current economy, but because of its population.

It's lazy, stupid, uneducated, and willing to blame others over working itself back up to shape. Read the comments section of that article, it's equally hilarious and infuriating. Both the Demtards and Republican'ts.

That's why the economy is tanking, and will continue to tank for a very long time, until another catastrophe hits us and motivates everyone.

(and no, I'm not trying to troll)


What we need is more independent independenties!
 
2010-09-05 11:47:21 PM
mynameist: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

I forgot to mention that wind energy is booming in the Midwest. Apply to all of them. Any skills in math should set you apart, but there may be a problem in the shortsightedness of these "green" companies in that they may want someone who would contribute immediately. You may want to be prepared for tough questions if you get an interview.


If I do end up going to grad school that's what I'm going to specialize in. I took some boundary layer courses so I understand the basics of it. The big problem right now though is that I have no experience, and nobody is hiring fresh meat, because there are plenty of experienced folk who are getting laid off who have families to feed. Its bad luck and the by product of a poor economy. At any rate I am doing my best to get myself more qualified, and if in the meantime something pops up then I'll be set anyways. Its just difficult now for sure.
 
2010-09-05 11:47:41 PM
Snarfangel: flowflowflow: End World Hunger Eat the Poor

I don't know, they're kind of stringy.


You ever try and peel one?
 
2010-09-05 11:48:24 PM
Some people who are out of work for a long period of time can move to another city that better fits their skill sets. Granted having a family does not help, or getting caught up in the housing boom and tied to a house hurts as well. But there are a lot of people, especially young people, who have no excuses not to pack up and move to a new city.
 
2010-09-05 11:48:53 PM
jingks: InfamousBLT: a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable

How many new meteors are discovered in a given year? The field is probably already saturated. What you should have done is study something related to global warming, there's probably a lot of openings there.


kekeke, brilliant!!!
 
2010-09-05 11:49:44 PM
I'm drunk, and I Votew
 
2010-09-05 11:53:06 PM
No, the other 20% work for the government, which is the only sector of the economy that is booming.
 
2010-09-05 11:53:14 PM
aneki: Big Al: Subby obviously doesn't grasp the concept of income difference. 20% of Americans are still getting paid well and the stock market is doing great.

Pretty much this. Unemployment among people with bachelor's degrees is something like 4%. As usual in times of economic stress, those Americans with educations and/or valuable skills are somewhat insulated.


Well, I'm not included in that 4% figure, but I have a bachelor's and I'm unemployed.
 
2010-09-05 11:53:21 PM
TeddyRooseveltsMustache: darkedgefan: I look on the bright side. At least the dems will get decimated in Nov and Obama will be a one-termer(I hope). Yes!!!!

It won't matter who's President. The economy relies on consumers, not the President.


And the consumers have to have jobs, and work to do, for them to stimulate the economy. The so-called government stimulus packages have done anything but.

And the jobs won't be created if the employers don't have faith in the economy. And there won't be any faith in the economy if there's no faith in the President and his government.

So, yes, actually, it does matter. But it's everybody's fault. He's just the idiot that decided he wanted to be President, and enough people voted for him that he won. And I think that he could do something about it if he wanted to badly enough. I'm not convinced that he does. I'm also not convinced that it can possibly happen in an Obama presidency, no matter what. He's become too divisive a figure. But, then, who wouldn't be at this juncture? Hillary would have been an even more divisive figure to begin with, though I don't think that the nation would have reacted as strongly to Hillarycare (if it bore any resemblance to what she was pushing during her husband's administration). I also think Cash for Clunkers wouldn't have happened... but I digress. McCain wasn't the right man for the job, either.

So, yeah, here we are stuck in this mess. You want to fix it? Get out and vote this November. Cast NOT ONE VOTE for an incumbent. Send the message that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take this any more... or whatever. Let your voice be heard by your vote. This election may truly be the most important election in our history, and if each and every one of us don't get up and VOTE, then each and every one of us will deserve EXACTLY what we get.
 
2010-09-05 11:53:42 PM
InfamousBLT:
Back when I started school, the outlook for the sector was great. In actuality meteorology means a lot more than what people think it does, and has its fingers in basically every industry imaginable. All sorts of people hire meteorologists for all sorts of things.

At any rate, having a math / science background should have helped me get a foot in the door into all sorts of interesting things, or so I thought.


Just curious - do you have a career mentor? Someone in the field who may not be able to hire you, but can at least offer you guidance and advice? Are there meteorology professional associations that you can join? What about those professors you studied under - have you kept in touch with them?

The truth is, getting a job these days is less about what you know and more about the contacts in your field of interest that you have established, even while as a student.
 
2010-09-05 11:55:15 PM
gpellis: aneki: Big Al: Subby obviously doesn't grasp the concept of income difference. 20% of Americans are still getting paid well and the stock market is doing great.

Pretty much this. Unemployment among people with bachelor's degrees is something like 4%. As usual in times of economic stress, those Americans with educations and/or valuable skills are somewhat insulated.

Well, I'm not included in that 4% figure, but I have a bachelor's and I'm unemployed.


liberal arts degrees don't count
 
2010-09-05 11:55:47 PM
wombatsrus: InfamousBLT:
Back when I started school, the outlook for the sector was great. In actuality meteorology means a lot more than what people think it does, and has its fingers in basically every industry imaginable. All sorts of people hire meteorologists for all sorts of things.

At any rate, having a math / science background should have helped me get a foot in the door into all sorts of interesting things, or so I thought.

Just curious - do you have a career mentor? Someone in the field who may not be able to hire you, but can at least offer you guidance and advice? Are there meteorology professional associations that you can join? What about those professors you studied under - have you kept in touch with them?

The truth is, getting a job these days is less about what you know and more about the contacts in your field of interest that you have established, even while as a student.


I'm in touch with some profs, but sadly they really didn't offer much insight other than "you probably shouldn't go to grad school." Beyond that, no. I'm too poor to afford to join any of the associations, and I don't have any mentor. As I said, I'm basically contact-less, which has probably hurt me more than anything else right now.
 
2010-09-05 11:58:03 PM
1-RocketMan-1: No, the other 20% work for the government, which is the only sector of the economy that is booming.

Usedta, but not any more. Remember how lots of people lost their jobs and quit paying taxes? Remember how lots of people lost their houses and quit paying property taxes? Remember how those who kept their jobs and houses took a pay cut and had their properties re-assessed? Guess which tax-funded employer is sucking wind right now.
 
Ral
2010-09-05 11:58:08 PM
WideStance:
The solution? Government spending on the poor, then tightening, tighter than before.


Government spending is never the solution to any economic problem.

Let's see how you all feel about this in 2 years.
 
2010-09-06 12:00:13 AM
Precision Boobery: 80 percent of Americans say that the economy is in poor shape. The other 20 percent are drunk own 85% of the wealth

Came here for this.
 
2010-09-06 12:00:47 AM
say what you will about the economy, it got people talkin'...
 
2010-09-06 12:02:31 AM
EL_FABREZ: BlockBug: Majin_Buu your a idiot!!


Grammar are hard.


Grammar are is hard.
/FTFY
 
2010-09-06 12:03:35 AM
scwewywabbit: this country is farked, not because of the current economy, but because of its population.

It's lazy, stupid, uneducated, and willing to blame others over working itself back up to shape. Read the comments section of that article, it's equally hilarious and infuriating. Both the Demtards and Republican'ts.

That's why the economy is tanking, and will continue to tank for a very long time, until another catastrophe hits us and motivates everyone.

(and no, I'm not trying to troll)


Says the guy sitting on his ass surfing the internet.
 
2010-09-06 12:05:43 AM
Without reading every single comment...

Maybe it's because I'm in Texas...
Maybe because I'm specifically in DFW...

But the Construction/Engineering company I work for hasn't been this busy since 2007. We're getting our asses kicked, while corporate is too upright to hire someone new for fear of the slowdown that comes around winter. Maybe our company is lucky, but maybe the 20% of drunk people just happen to work in an area with a good economy and for a company that has an above average amount of work. I mean, WTF?! I know this is Fark, but what are the odds that anyone would experience different situations in life?!
 
2010-09-06 12:07:01 AM
Yodacat: Without reading every single comment...

Maybe it's because I'm in Texas...
Maybe because I'm specifically in DFW...

But the Construction/Engineering company I work for hasn't been this busy since 2007. We're getting our asses kicked, while corporate is too upright to hire someone new for fear of the slowdown that comes around winter. Maybe our company is lucky, but maybe the 20% of drunk people just happen to work in an area with a good economy and for a company that has an above average amount of work. I mean, WTF?! I know this is Fark, but what are the odds that anyone would experience different situations in life?!


Upright = Uptight

Shutup
 
2010-09-06 12:10:30 AM
Yodacat:
Upright = Uptight

Shutup


No, no, no!

Forget your reality-based first-person insight! You made a typo! Banination for you!
 
2010-09-06 12:11:08 AM
Yodacat: Upright = Uptight

Isn't that Alright = Uptight = Out-of-sight?
 
2010-09-06 12:17:05 AM
When times got bad, companies cut out a lot of fat. Now that those 20% of use that are the bone and muscle aren't weighed down by their incompetence we can kick ass and chew bubble gum. Times are good, companies can't afford to lose us.

/currently out of bubble gum
//the fat ate it all while talking on their phone, facebooking, and texting instead of doing real work
 
2010-09-06 12:17:32 AM
InfamousBLT:
I'm in touch with some profs, but sadly they really didn't offer much insight other than "you probably shouldn't go to grad school." Beyond that, no. I'm too poor to afford to join any of the associations, and I don't have any mentor. As I said, I'm basically contact-less, which has probably hurt me more than anything else right now.

Many technology associations offer discounts to students/recent grads for which you may qualify - you should contact them, they may even be willing to give you a discount given your job situation.

I notice that membership in the American Meteorological Association is just $44 for a half year, or $88 for a full year. If you qualify for the student rate, it looks like it is only $20. Surely you can set aside between $20-$88 for those benefits? They also offering mentoring, and opportunities to volunteer for the association (even, it seems, if you are not a member) - both things that can help you generate contacts.

I would go back and ask your professors how do they keep current in the field - maybe they are willing to "sponsor" you as a student/inter into those associated. Perhaps you can even offer to do volunteer work for them. You never know what that might lead to.

Just some things to consider - a little money and time/effort to invest, but the payoff may be well worth it.
 
2010-09-06 12:20:29 AM
Here in Nevada the unemployment rate is over 15%. But at least we have healthcare "reform." Too bad it won't fully kick in until 2014. If this is change, bring W back. I hated him with the fire of 1000 suns but at least I had a job then.
 
2010-09-06 12:27:51 AM
peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

So chocolate rations are up then?
 
2010-09-06 12:31:53 AM
rel-yo: Here in Nevada the unemployment rate is over 15%. But at least we have healthcare "reform." Too bad it won't fully kick in until 2014. If this is change, bring W back. I hated him with the fire of 1000 suns but at least I had a job then.

I want to make a bumper sticker that says "IS THIS THE CHANGE YOU WERE HOPING FOR?" and put it on my car.

And I hate bumper stickers, almost as much as you hated W.

Obama didn't get us into this mess. Neither did W. *We The People* got ourselves into it, and *we the people* need to fix it.

Of course, that means some responsibility must be taken, and FSMforbid *that* actually happening. But we all know it's true.
 
2010-09-06 12:32:48 AM
Well, I'm drunk and I know the economy is in the shiatter.

Where does that leave me Mr. Calculus?
 
2010-09-06 12:40:23 AM
jingks: Yodacat: Upright = Uptight

Isn't that Alright = Uptight = Out-of-sight?


Yes. Yes, it is. (new window)
 
2010-09-06 12:40:46 AM
I'm a consultant for a company that makes clinical information systems. Thanks to ARRA I've got all the work I can handle. I likely will stay busy for a few years. I'm hoping that the economy will be in slightly better shape by the time they decide they dont need me. Should have my degree finished up by then too.
 
2010-09-06 12:41:43 AM
You know, if you have enough money to spend on getting drunk, you can't really complain. Unless you're drinking thunderbird, that is.
 
2010-09-06 12:48:37 AM
scwewywabbit: this country is farked, not because of the current economy, but because of its population.

It's lazy, stupid, uneducated, and willing to blame others over working itself back up to shape. Read the comments section of that article, it's equally hilarious and infuriating. Both the Demtards and Republican'ts.

That's why the economy is tanking, and will continue to tank for a very long time, until another catastrophe hits us and motivates everyone.

(and no, I'm not trying to troll)


Yes, Americans are lazy except compared to every other nation in the world (except South Korea).

But I'm sure YOU are much more competent than everyone else.
 
2010-09-06 12:50:01 AM
InfamousBLT: mynameist: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

I forgot to mention that wind energy is booming in the Midwest. Apply to all of them. Any skills in math should set you apart, but there may be a problem in the shortsightedness of these "green" companies in that they may want someone who would contribute immediately. You may want to be prepared for tough questions if you get an interview.

If I do end up going to grad school that's what I'm going to specialize in. I took some boundary layer courses so I understand the basics of it. The big problem right now though is that I have no experience, and nobody is hiring fresh meat, because there are plenty of experienced folk who are getting laid off who have families to feed. Its bad luck and the by product of a poor economy. At any rate I am doing my best to get myself more qualified, and if in the meantime something pops up then I'll be set anyways. Its just difficult now for sure.


InfamousBLT: At least you have good spelling and are able to put forward well thought out statements. You will be fine in the long run, best luck to you, keep it up!
 
2010-09-06 12:52:59 AM
Apparently this is the thread where everyone goes to spew their ridiculous bullshiat.

Even for fark there is an incredible amount of hyperbole/stupidity/flat-out lying going on in this thread. It is mildly entertaining at least though.

/grabs another beer
 
2010-09-06 12:54:05 AM
liverleef: I'm a consultant for a company that makes clinical information systems.

Hmm, that makes us competitors, as I don't think we hire consultants (though our clients will).

Thanks to ARRA I've got all the work I can handle.

Yep, same here. It's a pretty strong time for our industry.
 
2010-09-06 12:57:48 AM
Big Al: stirfrybry Quote 2010-09-05 11:13:49 PM

It seems you want everyone to stick their heads in the sand. Your team had its chance and they sucked.

>>>>

That's funny. You mean largest and fastest job growth in any recovery ever is sucked? The economy is just going through a slow patch again, mainly because of uncertainty with the housing crises still and lower amount of jobs available because companies are tightening their wallets and shipping jobs overseas. Welcome to the reality that the Reagan revolution started. You think it takes a few months of slim majority rule to fix that?


LOL liberal math

fastest job growth? you're farking insane. Temporary census jobs funded by a one time infusion does not spur investment.

liberals scared the shiat out of business people and you have not seen anything yet as far as job cuts as soon as you precious health bill mandates go into effect. You clowns are perhaps book smart and can repeat a number of complicated theories, but you don't a damn thing about economics. Idiot
 
2010-09-06 12:58:50 AM
texastag: Surpheon: WideStance: Government spending on the poor, then tightening, tighter than before.

By tightening do you mean cutting spending on the poor (entitlements) or firing hundreds of thousands of government workers (teachers, police, fda inspectors at egg farms - who are apparently pretty crap anyway)?

Tightening isn't the answer, growth is. Our current historically low taxes would be fine if everyone was working and producing enough to actually be paying them.

I have an idea. Let's keep the teachers and police (who are state or local employees anyway), the FDA inspectors and other essential government employees and services but do away with the 4000 government programs in this book...



Delete some of the departments and fire the thousands of employees that administer them.

That might save a bit of cash. A billion here and a billion there and pretty soon you're talking real money!


So you want thousands more people unemployed? You're a real prince, aren't you?

Or at least something that starts with the words p-r-i.
 
2010-09-06 01:00:22 AM
mynameist: InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

I'd offer you $70k(ish) if you took a more mature approach to your situation.

How about giving me the 70kish (In US dollars, no Nigerian currency please) so I can then reinvest the capital you provided into employment opportunities in a severely economically depressed area?
 
2010-09-06 01:04:03 AM
Thankfully, I am in the 20%. Mmmmmm. Lagunitas IPA.
 
2010-09-06 01:05:33 AM
farking 55 applications, all to places I'm more than qualified to work for, and not a single farking offer.

fark the economy, I want to put the skills I paid so dearly for to work and none of you farkers is giving me a chance.
 
2010-09-06 01:08:14 AM
stirfrybry: You clowns are perhaps book smart and can repeat a number of complicated theories, but you don't a damn thing about economics. Idiot

those darn libs and there book lernin'!! dey dun kno much about economies do thay! starring down frum there irvony towers . Us real mericans know REAL things . Like in my bible. I dont wanna talk to no scientist, they just lie and gettin me pissed
 
2010-09-06 01:11:11 AM
As long as we the people fail to vote responsibly the people elect won't be.
 
2010-09-06 01:11:24 AM
stirfrybry: Big Al: stirfrybry Quote 2010-09-05 11:13:49 PM

It seems you want everyone to stick their heads in the sand. Your team had its chance and they sucked.

>>>>

That's funny. You mean largest and fastest job growth in any recovery ever is sucked? The economy is just going through a slow patch again, mainly because of uncertainty with the housing crises still and lower amount of jobs available because companies are tightening their wallets and shipping jobs overseas. Welcome to the reality that the Reagan revolution started. You think it takes a few months of slim majority rule to fix that?

LOL liberal math

fastest job growth? you're farking insane. Temporary census jobs funded by a one time infusion does not spur investment.

liberals scared the shiat out of business people and you have not seen anything yet as far as job cuts as soon as you precious health bill mandates go into effect. You clowns are perhaps book smart and can repeat a number of complicated theories, but you don't a damn thing about economics. Idiot


Which businesses are scared? We're spending to beat all hell over hear. GMs are at about 50% and revenues are increasing at a steady 5% per week. I can't hire people fast enough and I can't seem to get manufacturers to deliver hardware as fast as I'm cutting checks. We've got VCs begging us to take their money.

But business is scared. Really?
 
2010-09-06 01:25:32 AM
• The total US debt, including states and municipalities, will soon reach $18 trillion dollars. That is a Greece-like 120% of GDP.

• Once fiscal conservatism was abandoned, it led to the serial financial bubbles and Wall Street depredations that have crippled our economy.

• America's debt explosion has resulted from the Republican Party's embrace, three decades ago, of the insidious Supply Side doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts.

• The GOP controlled Congress from 1994 to 2006: Combine neocon warfare spending with entitlements, farm subsidies, education, water projects and you end up with a GOP welfare/warfare state driving the federal spending machine.

• It was Paul Volcker who crushed inflation and enabled a solid economic rebound - not the Reagan Supply Side Tax cuts.

• Republicans believed the "delusion that the economy will outgrow the deficit if plied with enough tax cuts."

• Over George W. Bush 8 years in office, non-defense appropriations gained 65%.

• From 2002 to 2006, the top 1% of Americans received two-thirds of the gain in national income.

How the GOP destroyed the US economy, (new window) by David Stockman, yes that David Stockman.
 
2010-09-06 01:28:40 AM
rohar: Which businesses are scared? We're spending to beat all hell over hear. GMs are at about 50% and revenues are increasing at a steady 5% per week. I can't hire people fast enough and I can't seem to get manufacturers to deliver hardware as fast as I'm cutting checks. We've got VCs begging us to take their money.

But business is scared. Really?


Business = Companies whose profit is at the expense of the american workforce.

Everyone else doesn't count using teatard math.
 
2010-09-06 01:29:21 AM
Snarfangel: Some of us drunkards think the economy is in poor shape, too.

Indeed. I want to be recognized and drunk AND thinking the economy is in poor shape. Further, I'm drunk on cheap tequila as opposed to quality single malt scotch and that's a gross tragedy.
 
2010-09-06 01:29:38 AM
flowflowflow: End World Hunger Eat the Poor

www.roadkilltshirts.com
 
2010-09-06 01:30:19 AM
darkedgefan: I look on the bright side. At least the dems will get decimated in Nov and Obama will be a one-termer(I hope). Yes!!!!

Well, probably not, because we're not voting for a President this year. But thanks for playing.
 
2010-09-06 01:32:02 AM
colonel_bob: none of you farkers is giving me a chance

Is that on line one or two of your application ?
 
2010-09-06 01:34:55 AM
Gyrfalcon: Well, probably not, because we're not voting for a President this year. But thanks for playing

He did not explictly dispute that.

There are two elections right ? and the term does not dispute that in any way as defined in your quote ?

/// the dems can get decimated in the mid terms
//and Obama can be one term next election around ?
/ I am not a USA citizen, resident, or fan
 
2010-09-06 01:52:32 AM
peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

Ah yes, the plea of the damned - it's not our failed policies or our failed leadership, it's you. You stupid people who lost their jobs. You idiots who lost their homes. You Californians who live in a bankrupt state. You.

/ Going to enjoy the upcoming elections.
// Going to wear my "Health Care - It's a BFD!" shirt the day after.
 
2010-09-06 02:00:59 AM
Precision Boobery: 80 percent of Americans say that the economy is in poor shape. The other 20 percent are drunk own 85% of the wealth

You always see that statistic where the top 1% of Americans hold 90% of the wealth, but what I want to know is what the rest of the scale looks like.

--Does the top 50% of Americans hold 97% of the wealth?

--How much does the bottom 1% hold? (I mean, they must hold some wealth.)

--Is there linear correlation, such that for example, the top .5% holds 45% of the wealth? Where's the line?

I really wonder about these things.
 
2010-09-06 02:09:51 AM
shirtsbyeric: 2 years ago when unemployment was below 6% Obama told us it's the worst economy since the great depression and most of you believed him.

Bush took office with the unemployment rate at 4.7% and left with it at 7.7%. That is a huge % increase.
 
2010-09-06 02:22:29 AM
stirfrybry Quote 2010-09-06 12:57:48 AM

LOL liberal math

fastest job growth? you're farking insane. Temporary census jobs funded by a one time infusion does not spur investment.

liberals scared the shiat out of business people and you have not seen anything yet as far as job cuts as soon as you precious health bill mandates go into effect. You clowns are perhaps book smart and can repeat a number of complicated theories, but you don't a damn thing about economics. Idiot

>>>>

You bash book smarts then say we don't understand economics like you "Real Americans" (TM)? Talk about being an idiot... and hey facts are facts. Fastest recovery from a recession ever. Largest job growth. That's what the stimulus did, and it was weighed down by Republican blind opposition where they put politics ahead of country, as usual.

No business is scared, they're all laughing to the bank. Who by the way is also filthy rich again too. Only people disgruntled are those making minimum wage like yourself.
 
2010-09-06 02:24:37 AM
Slartibartfaster: colonel_bob: none of you farkers is giving me a chance

Is that on line one or two of your application ?


It's on the line that comes right after I get the "we think you're great, but Billy here has an uncle in HR" spiel.

The only people I know that have jobs that can lead to a career right out of college got them because of family connections or because their last name sounds foreign (their words, not mine).

I was smart enough to get into and make it through without incident one of the best schools in the country. But I quickly realized that while I have the brains to cut it, I don't have something that's far more valuable post-graduation: connections. My dad worked on an oil rig instead of going to college or being rich in the first place, and that has hurt my ability to find a job more than the economy or my dislike of brown-nosing combined.

So yes, I'm farking bitter.
 
2010-09-06 02:26:14 AM
So go volunteer to meet people, go to networking meetings, apply for unpaid internships. There are countless ways to make connections including riding the coat tales of fellow class mates.
 
2010-09-06 02:31:56 AM
naptapper: Ah yes, the plea of the damned - it's not our failed policies or our failed leadership, it's you. You stupid people who lost their jobs. You idiots who lost their homes. You Californians who live in a bankrupt state. You.

Sad.

There is so much excess capacity out there it is nuts.

Houses? There are something like 130 million houses/apartments in the US of which only 110 million are occupied. Average living space is over 1,900 sq ft per unit. Conservatively, that's enough for 900 million people.

Labor? Our tech company hires only college graduates. There are so many college grads available that our starting wages today are half what they were 8 years ago. We compete with dog kennels.

Business marketing? Take as a surrogate for the demand for business meetings the price of a rental car. It is almost impossible to pay more than $18 per day in a large city. There are fleets sitting parked.

US assets and labor are deteriorating to utilization levels equivalent to that which I saw at the collapse of the Soviet Union. It's not that there is no valuable work to be done here and innovative folks that could do it, there is simply no private investment.
 
2010-09-06 02:32:59 AM
colonel_bob: Slartibartfaster: colonel_bob: none of you farkers is giving me a chance

Is that on line one or two of your application ?

It's on the line that comes right after I get the "we think you're great, but Billy here has an uncle in HR" spiel.

The only people I know that have jobs that can lead to a career right out of college got them because of family connections or because their last name sounds foreign (their words, not mine).

I was smart enough to get into and make it through without incident one of the best schools in the country. But I quickly realized that while I have the brains to cut it, I don't have something that's far more valuable post-graduation: connections. My dad worked on an oil rig instead of going to college or being rich in the first place, and that has hurt my ability to find a job more than the economy or my dislike of brown-nosing combined.

So yes, I'm farking bitter.


An economy where all the growth is in health care and IT and you decided neither. And you're bitter? Hell, I've gotta double my staff in the next two months and I've got no applicants worth pursuing. I'd like to help the economy, but all the graduates studied the wrong damned subjects.
 
2010-09-06 02:54:14 AM
Sid_6.7: "Poor shape" by what metric? It isn't doing spectacularly well, but it's hardly an absolute disaster.

Private sector hiring shows signs of gradually increasing, though not to extremely high levels. The only reason the jobs report looked so bad this past week is that temporary census jobs went away, but private sector hiring grew.

Here's an idea, guys: stop watching 24 hour news networks who stopped caring about reporting news years ago.


It's been "showing signs of gradually increasing" for over a year and all we get is more months with more jobs lost. Just last month even more jobs were lost. That's after hundreds of billions in stimulus and trillions in 0% interest loans from the Fed. The existing companies now are doing great though. For everyone without a job, not so much.

Things aren't going back to what they were before and those jobs are likely to never come back. We need to quit pretending like they will and try to minimize short and long term damage instead of spending like a gambling addict trying to get his winnings back.
 
2010-09-06 03:10:37 AM
This really started with Nixon in '71.
 
2010-09-06 03:12:27 AM
My motto has always been:

Eighty percent of the population is ignorant and the other twenty percent live off of them.
 
2010-09-06 03:15:51 AM
Big Al: No business is scared, they're all laughing to the bank. Who by the way is also filthy rich again too. Only people disgruntled are those making minimum wage like yourself.

That's not a fair statement either. The GOP doesn't like to use the words that describe their policies. Deficit spending, tax increases and expanding government are evil phrases. So they will say "tax cut" instead. The last 25 year the businesses the GOP cares about have been counting on the government to disguise their problems to stave off bankruptcy. They are all terrified that this will go away.

An example from of my most hated company Aetna. 5% of premiums is to paying claims. 26% of their premiums is administrative costs (the legal maximum) 40% is investments.
Problem 1: The market booms so Aetna investments are through the roof. How do you give all that money to executive board without the shareholders of employees or customers getting part of it? A capital gains tax cut allows you to shuffle the director's compensation to something not counted as an administrative expense.
Problem 2: The market goes south creating layoffs. Less people are paying premiums How to you maintain the executive pay while convincing people that Premiums need to rise? The GOP will deregulate so Aetna can count anything as a claim payment without fear of enforcment. Bonus now the claims expense just doubled while real claims shrunk with the economy.

Here comes Obama saying that he will not only enforce the laws but will make the expenses transparent so you can see Aetnas obvious waste. Yes there are a lot of businesses that are scared. Of course they are not business that contribute to the economy.
 
2010-09-06 03:19:29 AM
Welcome to my Facebook page.
 
2010-09-06 03:35:05 AM
rohar:
An economy where all the growth is in health care and IT and you decided neither. And you're bitter? Hell, I've gotta double my staff in the next two months and I've got no applicants worth pursuing. I'd like to help the economy, but all the graduates studied the wrong damned subjects.

Don't go around assuming things - I was a CompSci/Philosophy double major with a CogSci minor thrown in to boot. The only thing I can tell is that tech types figure I'm more interested in philosophy than code whereas everyone else thinks I'm too geeky to function in normal society.

Either that or I grind people the wrong way during interviews. In one of my several final rounds one of the questions posed was "So what's your favorite website?" Since I don't have any one in particular (a true citizen of the interwebs!), I answered FARK - the vice president of a fairly large online retailer had never heard of it, so I was pretty sure I was farked (ha ha! get it!?) once he said he'd look it up after the interview.
 
2010-09-06 03:52:21 AM
CaptainFatass:
So you want thousands more people unemployed? You're a real prince, aren't you?

Or at least something that starts with the words p-r-i.


Yeah, you're right. We should keep them employed in jobs at departments administering programs that produce nothing but more expense for the taxpayers.

The government doesn't exist to provide them with jobs.

Vallejo California is not an example the federal government should be following.

Idiot.
 
2010-09-06 03:54:52 AM
I have a job that pays well in a very stable industry. It took me 35 years to work up to it, but here we are - so please, don't ruin this for me.

Seriously, if you're young and think 1995 to 2005 was economic reality, this is all going to be new to you...
 
2010-09-06 03:58:46 AM
i'm drunk, so i'm getting a kick out of the3w regplis
 
2010-09-06 04:02:15 AM
Big Al: So go volunteer to meet people, go to networking meetings, apply for unpaid internships. There are countless ways to make connections including riding the coat tales of fellow class mates.

This.

It's not what you know, it's who you know. Always has been, always will be.

Too late for colonel_bob, but any farkers reading this who are considering going to college (or back to college), the single most important thing you'll get out of it is a network of peers. You don't have to suck up to anyone you actually dislike, but take the opportunity to get some experience. Masters/PhD students ask for help stuffing envelopes? Say yes! Got an opportunity for some part-time work in your field? Say yes! It might take a little longer to complete your degree, but thousands of graduates will have the same piece of paper you do; how many will have hands-on-experience?

The second most important thing college teaches you is how to find information. The third thing is how to phrase that info in the manner they want. The actual detailed, course-relevant information is just window dressing. If you learn: how to network, how figure out stuff and how to speak like you know what you're talking about, then it hardly matters what the actual "stuff" is. (Exception: obviously this doesn't include the really hands-on, practical disciplines like medicine. It's one thing figuring out that you need a cadaver to practise on, it's another thing to actually procure one!)

/gimme a couple of weeks and I could probably convince Rohar to hire me and I have zero IT knowledge. (Unfortunately, zero IT interest, and happy in Australia, so no bets on that claim :P)
//Got three friends earning very good money in IT - one has a biology degree, one did a year of archaeology before dropping out to get a real job, the other has an arts degree. I don't think I know anyone with an IT job who actually studied IT at uni.
 
2010-09-06 04:12:29 AM
Majin_Buu: /in before Gato Trollo

And yet you're doing basically the same thing, in much the same style.

Yeah, I'm thinking you're his alt. Politics troll alts tend to be opposed alignment for sock-puppet purposes.

//Just sayin'
 
2010-09-06 04:17:48 AM
colonel_bob: Either that or I grind people the wrong way during interviews. In one of my several final rounds one of the questions posed was "So what's your favorite website?" Since I don't have any one in particular (a true citizen of the interwebs!), I answered FARK - the vice president of a fairly large online retailer had never heard of it, so I was pretty sure I was farked (ha ha! get it!?) once he said he'd look it up after the interview.

Oh dear. "How to interview well" really is something they should teach at uni. But you totally failed that question.

HUGE TIP: Anything that looks like a free-form, personal-opinion question is really a trick question. You're supposed to use those questions to show your "fit" for the company. What you coulda/shoulda said would've been:
a) Something complimentary about the website of the people you were interviewing for. Like "I like the way your website has blah blah blah feature", OR
b) Something industry-related, like "I read x-retail news, I find blah blah interesting".

It's not about sucking up or brown-nosing. That's the wrong way to think about it. It's not even about lying ... it's about telling selective truths. Saying "wow what gorgeous shoes", instead of "wtf have you done to your hair". They're both true (in my hypothetical example they are, just roll with it, okay) ... but only one is the "acceptable" thing to say in 99% of situations.

You can luck out telling the first truth that comes to mind, he could've been a secret farker, she coulda been attacked by flying porpoises and not realised the damage they'd done to her hair, but odds are you're just going to shove your foot in your mouth.

/Did I really say "attacked by flying porpoises"? I think it's nap time, I tend to waffle bizarrely when sleepy.
 
2010-09-06 05:31:28 AM
trippdogg: I have a job that pays well in a very stable industry. It took me 35 years to work up to it, but here we are - so please, don't ruin this for me.

Seriously, if you're young and think 1995 to 2005 was economic reality, this is all going to be new to you...


OK, you peaked my curiosity. What industry are you in? I don't know if you meant it that way but I read your first sentence as "I took the opportunity to screwed you royally, don't try take my victory away". Also why 1995 - 2005? I don't see anything specific to that time frame.
 
2010-09-06 05:44:06 AM
News sites get paid by advertisers. The worse the news is the more people go visit that page. So basically journalistic integrity is dead. Its all pay to play as far as news goes anymore. TV broadcast is the same. They are always going after the dramatic. What can kill your child this week? Tune in at 10 and find out.

Just about the only people I know that think the economy isnt getting better are ones that bought overpriced property or put their money in risky investments and lost their shirts. Now everything for them is doom and gloom. It doesnt matter that you can show them hundreds of local job listing that havent been filled after months online and in local classifieds. The only thing they know is that they had to default on their mortgage and now are renting a home that is only 2800 square feet. It doesnt matter that its only them and their spouse and they have no need for a 5 bedroom home with an extra family room.

Sooner or later people will figure out that there are jobs all over the country. They might have to move or accept 20k less than they were making but eventually they will have to stop living off of extended unemployment benefits and join the rest of us in the workforce. How many people are defaulting on home loans because their house is worth 1/2 of what they paid for it? Even if they could afford to live their they just walk away because "its not a good investment"?

Seriously people if you cant find a job 5 minutes from your house start looking in different cities and states. I know it sucks to move away from everything and everyone you know. I would rather do that than live in my car and eat beans out of a can because I didnt want to move out of X city.

There are a lot of things wrong in this country and one of them is the belief that we are owed something. We pay taxes and we can draw unemployment to get us by until we find a job. We cant expect the government to pay for us to live for 10 years because we dont want to move out of Michigan because its where we grew up.

/Bootstraps
 
2010-09-06 06:02:10 AM
Truncks1: stirfrybry: You clowns are perhaps book smart and can repeat a number of complicated theories, but you don't a damn thing about economics. Idiot

those darn libs and there book lernin'!! dey dun kno much about economies do thay! starring down frum there irvony towers . Us real mericans know REAL things . Like in my bible. I dont wanna talk to no scientist, they just lie and gettin me pissed


Where in the fark did he mention anything even remotely religious or Christian? What's does that have to do with his statement?

So someone makes a very valid point about business, and your enlightened rebuttal is to bring up the bible as though that had anything to do with it?

His point was that unless you have started, ran, help ran, were hired as a manager to help a business get off the ground, been in there with your farking hands on the actual tangible thing...then you really don't know dick about it.

Read all the books you want and write economic papers judging everyone else's results, but the fact is, the best education comes from actually doing it on a daily basis.

This is all his point was and you had to turn it into:

"Derp, I'm going to do a bad impression of a southern red neck, Jesus humping, Sarah Palin masturbating retard! Especially since I know for fact that's what anyone who doesn't see the world just as I do must be."

Save it man. It's a tired and worn out act that is so intellectually boring. No different than the "Jesus Warriors" that would tell me I am going to hell outside of the venue of whatever concert I was attending.

Either wise up to the point the man was trying to make, or get some new material.
 
2010-09-06 06:24:19 AM
Reality Dichotomist:
Either wise up to the point the man was trying to make, or get some new material.


I think the point was that many of us have heard this shiate from old stirfry plenty of times and this response is spot on. It's based on multiple posts across multiple subjects for multiple years. You'd feel the same if you weren't a hyper-sensitive newbie.

/Lighten up, Francis.
 
2010-09-06 06:43:40 AM
EL_FABREZ: BlockBug: Majin_Buu your a idiot!!


Grammar are hard.


i781.photobucket.com
 
2010-09-06 07:26:12 AM
Doppleganger871: I think I'm gonna try the Obama method of getting my financial situation better. Borrow more money, spend like brutha in a pawn shop, and not worry about paying it back.

The "Obama" method? While you're at it, why don't you give him credit for inventing the wheel, too?

Lotta kids these days think "history" is something that started the day they were born.

Read a book, read a book, read a mothaf**kin' book.
 
2010-09-06 08:16:38 AM
As far as making connections in college, it's a pretty BFD. It took me until junior year to realize that I wasn't going to a hoity toity private college because it would teach me how to write, I was going so that when I graduated I could use my connections to land a job. Now I have two potential career paths, both of which are within my capabilities and interests, and a pretty damn good shot of getting one, the other, or both, and being able to do all of them while living with my boyfriend as far from my family as I can reasonably get without nasty phonecalls every weekend asking why I don't call or visit anymore.

/graduating this year
//shiat
 
2010-09-06 08:18:10 AM
The 20% of idiots saying "Hey, things are good for me, so the economy isn't bad at all" are not looking at the big picture. Just as bad as the Climate Change deniers who think that the weather is fine for them, so the rest of the world must be fine as well. I'm sure the almost 1 in 5 unemployed/underemployed will not agree with your rosy picture.

Wanna see how bad it is? Come to Detroit.
 
2010-09-06 08:53:01 AM
AngryDragon: The 20% of idiots saying "Hey, things are good for me, so the economy isn't bad at all" are not looking at the big picture. Just as bad as the Climate Change deniers who think that the weather is fine for them, so the rest of the world must be fine as well. I'm sure the almost 1 in 5 unemployed/underemployed will not agree with your rosy picture.

Wanna see how bad it is? Come to Detroit.


Detroit is a shiathole for many reasons beyond the general economy. But as long as we're on the subject, do you show your kids RoboCop so they can wish the city was as nice as depicted in that movie?
 
2010-09-06 09:24:16 AM
//


mynameist 2010-09-05 11:02:05 PM

Where is this bad economy that people are speaking of? I'm living in a town with 1% unemployment. We'll hire crackheads here.

mynameist 2010-09-05 11:23:22 PM

InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage

I'd offer you $70k(ish) if you took a more mature approach to your situation.

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Bio:
My name is Tyler. I will be 30 in less than three years but people still think I'm in my early 20s. Growing up is scary! I graduated with a BSEE from Mizzou a few years back and work worldwide in the upstream petroleum industry. I get outside a lot not only with work, but ATV riding and fishing as well. I care about the environment, but drive an F-250 diesel pickup. I like to follow politics, but I don't vote. I like to know what's going on in the world, but I only read Fark.

I'm about to buy a TF membership soon, but I'm super cheap when it comes to intangibles.


//

You are a horrid, self centered little creature. Pretty full of yourself, huh?
 
2010-09-06 09:29:20 AM
un_farking_real: peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

THIS!


So The leftists in the country that believed 6% unemployment was the worst economic condition since the Great Depression, when they voted for Obama caused this?
 
2010-09-06 09:33:57 AM
lh4.ggpht.com
 
2010-09-06 09:34:01 AM
dingdongrb: My motto has always been:

Eighty percent of the population is ignorant and the other twenty percent live off of them.


Or maybe, the evil CEOs and Charlie Rangels of the world are doing well off of the blood of the rest?

In any other thread, this would be the Total Fark Hive-Mind's view. But now it is the little people's fault? You guys are such predictable hypocrites. Do any of you have an original thought? I think half of the Total Fark left is one guy with a lot of alts. I think you are all Linux_yes.
 
2010-09-06 10:46:53 AM
Compassion and teamwork are the only ways out of this economic conundrum. Looking at everything from a strictly market-based perspective does not address the reality that we are still a society that requires cohesiveness and trust.

Bringing back manufacturing is too expensive? Is it more expensive than full scale economic collapse?

But I don't expect the people on this site to agree, or even understand. Perhaps we are destined to collapse. It's for the best, most of these quasi-middle class dolts will be the first to degrade into desperate retards begging for the government to help them. . . of course, we will have the Fark archives to read about how they boostrapped their way up the food chain and how they insist no socialist program should help anybody.
 
2010-09-06 11:27:43 AM
farm5.static.flickr.com
I found Merrikuh's economy!
 
2010-09-06 11:35:38 AM
firefly212: Meh, it's not as bad as the media would have you believe. Of course, the same people who cried about how the media always overblows disasters during the BP spill are now decrying how there just isn't enough hype over the "meh" state of the economy. For what it's worth, my store has nearly 20 job openings... the problem is more that of the applications in the system, everyone seems to think that they should get paid 15-25 dollars an hour for retail jobs. Unrealistic income expectations aren't a function of the bad economy, but of a piss poor education system that tells people their BA in physical fitness is worth something.

Working full-time at 15 dollars/hr. still only puts you at $31,200/yr. income. Less taxes, and you're at around $22K, giving you around $1850 per month of usable income. Even for a single person, that is not a great deal to live on (depending on your spending habits and where you live of course)

Figure:
rent (around $500 in my city for a one bedroom)
utilities (maybe $150?)
car payment (maybe $200)
health insurance ($150)

leaves you $200-ish per week for food, clothing, and everything else. That is not a lot for a single person, let alone a head of a family or couple.
 
2010-09-06 12:18:19 PM
He Who Shall Not Be Named Quote 2010-09-06 05:44:06 AM

Sooner or later people will figure out that there are jobs all over the country.

>>>>

I disagree, looking at the big picture there will always be a higher unemployment rate going forward. Production used to be a well paying job booming a middle class that could afford a house in the burbs, vacations, etc. Now what? Now the middle class is a 40k a year McDonalds night shift manager. There are less and less good paying jobs out there. We cannot compete with dollar a day cheap labor workers. Either start doing what this country prospered and was founded on, tariffs, or lobby for a global minimum wage tied to each countries per capita gdp or some similar figure.

Today we are a country built on speculation and the service industry. Natural unemployment levels of 5 were a some-what norm, these days I can see closer to 10%. Get used to this number. Don't be so shocked if there are people unemployed and a lot of them cannot afford to move or get an education in a skill that pays better than what they did before.
 
2010-09-06 12:19:36 PM
Head_Shot Quote 2010-09-06 11:35:38 AM

leaves you $200-ish per week for food, clothing, and everything else. That is not a lot for a single person, let alone a head of a family or couple.

>>>

That's why both heads of household usually have to work, leaving their children to be raised by their friends, siblings, tv and movies. Which explains the disaster of this new generation.
 
2010-09-06 12:19:58 PM
peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

Well I just wish that the president and congress would stop taking MY money out of the economy in the form of taxes.
 
2010-09-06 12:26:56 PM
GORDON Quote 2010-09-06 12:19:58 PM

Well I just wish that the president and congress would stop taking MY money out of the economy in the form of taxes.

>>>

Chances are you haven't seen less being taken out for taxes in your entire lifetime. Even though you are probably making more now than you have in the past. You keep spitting out those catch phrases blindly, the GOP PR machines have done their job.
 
2010-09-06 12:52:48 PM
Doppleganger871: I think I'm gonna try the Obama Republican method of getting my financial situation better. Borrow more money, spend like brutha in a pawn shop, and not worry about paying it back.

FTFY; get your cliches straight: the GOP borrows and spends, the Dems tax and spend - which, BTW, is at least more fiscally responsible (not to mention more honest) than the former.
 
2010-09-06 02:11:03 PM
Liberalism generates the exact opposite of its stated intent; time after time. All the left has is blaming Republicans. Get a clue; Democrats have been holding the purse strings since Jan 2007.
 
2010-09-06 02:47:35 PM
420 Conservative Quote 2010-09-06 02:11:03 PM
Liberalism generates the exact opposite of its stated intent; time after time. All the left has is blaming Republicans. Get a clue; Democrats have been holding the purse strings since Jan 2007.

>>>

How long did they have a veto-proof majority and controlled House and Senate?
 
2010-09-06 03:45:41 PM
The Envoy: Reality Dichotomist:
Either wise up to the point the man was trying to make, or get some new material.

I think the point was that many of us have heard this shiate from old stirfry plenty of times and this response is spot on. It's based on multiple posts across multiple subjects for multiple years. You'd feel the same if you weren't a hyper-sensitive newbie.

/Lighten up, Francis.


Been lurking for a really long time and I guess I missed where stirfry was a master of spinning the derp.

Guess I should spend more time in the politics tab.

Meh, enjoying another Great Lakes beer right now!
 
2010-09-06 03:48:10 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


Wow, try DTN/Televent, Meterologix, etc. They are all hiring. You should know though that unless you have a masters or doctorate, you aren't getting into NWS....your prof should have explained that to you. If you want to get into TV/media, then you can do that as well, you just have to work at it. I know of many friends who are mets, and you have to earn your way in that profession moreso than in others.
 
2010-09-06 03:57:13 PM
InfamousBLT: I love how a lot of you say you're doing better.

Go talk to the class of 2010 and ask them how the economy is.

/a BS in Meteorology with a minor in Math should have made me employable
//fark yeah minimum wage


And just some more info on this, if you graduated with any sort of GPA, you might even work at CSWR, or hell, National Science Foundation. WeatherEye Online is hiring for mets, Meridian Enviro. tech is hiring mets almost all the time. Every met major that I know of who has graduated from a number of schools with a met degree has a job working in their field. They aren't paid well, but they have a job, with benefits. Sorry, I am not buying the fact you don't have a job as a met.

You have to come to the realization you aren't going to get into NWS just on your good looks alone. If you don't at least have a masters, your chances of getting in are pretty slim. I know the Navy is always looking for good, qualified mets as well.

Sorry, I am just not buying that you aren't getting a job in your field unless you are

a) incompetent
b) not willing to move somewhere there are jobs for mets
c) don't even have a face for radio

I know there are a number of jobs out there for mets that are qualified. You just have to be willing to move to the Midwest and accept 30K a year.
 
2010-09-06 04:59:53 PM
InfamousBLT: At any rate, having a math / science background should have helped me get a foot in the door into all sorts of interesting things, or so I thought.

Instead of thinking you should have asked or researched. No snark intended though I'm sure it sounds like it. You have a stupid degree by most people's accounts. You may as well go for a communications degree now and become a weatherperson.
 
2010-09-06 05:48:56 PM
Big Al: 420 Conservative Quote 2010-09-06 02:11:03 PM
Liberalism generates the exact opposite of its stated intent; time after time. All the left has is blaming Republicans. Get a clue; Democrats have been holding the purse strings since Jan 2007.

>>>

How long did they have a veto-proof majority and controlled House and Senate?


I don't think he's coming back, so I'll answer: they didn't, of course. The Democrats have not had a veto-proof or filibuster-proof majority in this century.
 
Ehh
2010-09-06 07:56:31 PM
just_intonation: Cast NOT ONE VOTE for an incumbent.

The sentiments are understandable, but does that mean voting for Angle over Reid (awful as Reid is)? For Fiorina over Boxer?
 
2010-09-06 08:17:49 PM
Come on Obama, there's still hope in some of their eyes. GBTW and stomp that out of them!
 
2010-09-06 08:35:38 PM
Slartibartfaster: Gyrfalcon: Well, probably not, because we're not voting for a President this year. But thanks for playing

He did not explictly dispute that.

There are two elections right ? and the term does not dispute that in any way as defined in your quote ?

/// the dems can get decimated in the mid terms
//and Obama can be one term next election around ?
/ I am not a USA citizen, resident, or fan


New meme: Election nazi?
 
2010-09-06 08:43:16 PM
Gyrfalcon: New meme: Election nazi?

We have ways of making you vote!
 
2010-09-06 11:43:58 PM
Having sipped on moonshine tonight I must admit that drunkenness is in my favor.
 
2010-09-07 07:31:52 AM
colonel_bob:
I was smart enough to get into and make it through without incident one of the best schools in the country. But I quickly realized that while I have the brains to cut it, I don't have something that's far more valuable post-graduation: connections. My dad worked on an oil rig instead of going to college or being rich in the first place, and that has hurt my ability to find a job more than the economy or my dislike of brown-nosing combined.

So yes, I'm farking bitter.


Sorry to break this to you, but if you do not have any "connections", it is your own damn fault. It has nothing to do with what your parents had. During your time at of of the "best" schools you could have made connections with other students, with professors, your schools career advisory/placement office, joined various associations - many of which charge little or nothing for student members - used your skills doing volunteer/unpaid work, etc. You may be proud of not doing these "brown nosing" activities, but where has it gotten you now?

It is not too late, you can still start making those connections by at least joining one of the many computer professional organizations and getting involved. But it is up to you - the name of the game is networking and connection these days, and if you choose not to play it, you will be left out.
 
2010-09-07 09:52:12 AM
Head_Shot:
Working full-time at 15 dollars/hr. still only puts you at $31,200/yr. income. Less taxes, and you're at around $22K, giving you around $1850 per month of usable income. Even for a single person, that is not a great deal to live on (depending on your spending habits and where you live of course)

Figure:
rent (around $500 in my city for a one bedroom)
utilities (maybe $150?)
car payment (maybe $200)
health insurance ($150)

leaves you $200-ish per week for food, clothing, and everything else. That is not a lot for a single person, let alone a head of a family or couple.


L2overtime, n00b.

Also, a car isn't necessary and health insurance is going to be covered by pretty much any full-time job in the vast majority of the country.

But even given that, 200$/week is hardly horrible. The 90's version of 200$ a week more than covered the food and minor expenses budget for a family of 5, if you're calling that a tight budget for one person you're doing it wrong.

But yeah, wait until you have a good job to have kids. Those expenses are not controllable.
 
2010-09-07 10:56:48 AM
There's quite a few jobs out there, unfortunately for me, none of them are entry-level and the few that are there's probably 50 applications and I haven't even gotten a response back.

farkers.
 
2010-09-07 04:17:11 PM
peeledpeas: As long as 80% of people continue to think the economy is bad, it will stay that way. all it takes to turn it around is to have 80% of the people think the economy is good. That's right, YOU are the economy. Not the President, not Congress. YOU.

If you imagine production going up, it will happen.
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2010-09-07 05:07:13 PM
I lost my job in the middle of the Recession. Took me just under 8 months to get employed again. During that time I tightened up my spending and paid down my debt. Now that I'm employed again, I have greater purchasing power, better credit and am back to my happy-American-consumer ways.

Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Is it not working like that for everyone else?
 
2010-09-07 05:25:20 PM
Poor shape????


the wealthiest 2% of americans are wealthier than ever.


i don't see a problem.

snicker.
 
2010-09-08 08:07:39 PM
BMFPitt:
You are aware that there's a difference between you personally and the economy, right? 70% of the economy is based on your idiot neighbor maxing out his credit card. We gave it some crack and it woke up a bit from where it was, but that doesn't actually fix the root problem, it just makes it worse and delays the results.


That's my point. People who are doing well (like myself) don't see a problem with the economy. It's not that they're stupid or drunk or crazy, they are just the ones benefiting from the current state of things. If the economy was stronger, they could actually be worse off. Therefore, "poor shape" is not how they would describe it.
 
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