WTF else are we to call movies like "Hostel" or "Saw"? "Torture porn" is a pretty apt description of this genre. However, I also like the term, "gorno" (gore + porno), but IMHO, "torture porn" is a better descriptive term.

Bathia_Mapes: WTF else are we to call movies like "Hostel" or "Saw"? "Torture porn" is a pretty apt description of this genre. However, I also like the term, "gorno" (gore + porno), but IMHO, "torture porn" is a better descriptive term.

Funny, that sounds an awful lot like guro, which isn't too far off...

WideStance: I did not see Hostel 2.

2 was basically the same movie as 1, except the protagonists are women and there's a f*cking retarded plot twist near the end that you see coming from miles and miles away.

Shostie: WideStance: I did not see Hostel 2.

2 was basically the same movie as 1, except the protagonists are women and there's a f*cking retarded plot twist near the end that you see coming from miles and miles away.

There's a plot twist at the end Hostel 2?

There is nothing good about Eli Roth.

I can't say that I'm a fan of Eli Roth's movies.

And no, I can't be bothered to care if I fundamentally misunderstand Eli Roth's intent.

mitchcumstein1: Shostie: WideStance: I did not see Hostel 2.

2 was basically the same movie as 1, except the protagonists are women and there's a f*cking retarded plot twist near the end that you see coming from miles and miles away.

There's a plot twist at the end Hostel 2?

There is nothing good about Eli Roth.

When the (SPOILER ALERT) meek guy suddenly turns out to be the vicious killer (END SPOILER ALERT).

Like I said; f*cking retarded.

Well, he filmed parts of both Hostel movies in Cesky Krumlov, which is a wonderful, picturesque town and a UNESCO World Heritage Site. So he's got that going for him, I guess.

/oh, the MOVIES? Sucked.

Am I the only one who didn't even bother to finish "Hostel"? Not even in an "I'm grossed out and can't take it anymore" kind of way, but in a "This is f*cking stupid, boring and predictable" kind of way.

bobbarker02: Horror films are childish and stupid, and only childish and stupid people like them.

/don't understand Mark Kermode's love of horror. He's usually so reasonable otherwise.

There are some smart ones out there:

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No Fixed Login: Subby: Eli Roth blasts.

Can we please stop using the word "blast" like this? If I see the word "blasts" in a headline there better be firearms or explosives involved.

Indeed.

Eli Roth blasts gets all pissy about horror film critics misunderstanding his movies. Yes, Eli, please enlighten us on what we misunderstood about characters getting brutally tortured for an hour

/FTFY

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I can't say that I'm a fan of Eli Roth's movies.

I loved Cabin Fever but haven't liked a thing he has done since. I hated Hostel because it wasn't even CLOSE to what was advertised. It was cut shots, and implied gore and completely boring. Hostel 2 was almost slightly better, if only because some of the scenes were slightly more graphic, but it was basically the same movie. I had no interest in "The Last Exorcist," it looked like "The Exorcism of EMily Rose" 2.0. Did I miss anything else he did?

"Cabin Fever" had the right mix of horror, gore, and humor, which is somewhat integral to people my age who grew up on 80s horror movies. Even like "Texas Chainsaw," you have the "LOOK WHAT YOUR BROTHER DID TO THE DOOR!!! NO RESPECT FOR THE FAMILY!" line....

antihuman: Understandable. I think I love TCM so much because, well because it's a great movie, but also because I saw it when I was very young and the sense of dread at the beginning was eating me alive then when Leatherface showed up I nearly shiat myself. My reaction to that movie was probably similar to those YouTube videos of people watching 2 Girls 1 Cup.

Also, it holds up. I think I saw that for the first time when I was 12, and at 35, I am still creeped out and uncomfortable watching it. Damned good job. Same with the first "Halloween". "Poltergeist" scared the crap out of me when I was a kid, but I think I was 8 or so when an older cousin saw it for me. I watched it with my boyfriend a few years back (he'd never seen it) and it creeped him out. Some things hold up.

Modern horror movies I really like:
"Ginger Snaps" and "May."

Letdown: as torture porn goes I like Martyrs

I saw that over a year ago and still debate what the ending meant.

It was vile; my boyfriend walked in while I was mid-way through and I was almost ashamed to be watching. But I don't think I have seen a movie as deep and as affecting as that was.

It's one hell of a film.

bobbarker02: Horror films are childish and stupid, and only childish and stupid people like them.

/don't understand Mark Kermode's love of horror. He's usually so reasonable otherwise.

Wow, pretentious much?

Or are you drawing any sort of line between REAL horror films, like "Psycho" or "Alien" (Ridley Scott's original), and splatter flicks like the Friday the 13th franchises? There's a big difference, you know.

Otherwise, if you're some kind of purist who draws an equal sign between "Psycho" and "Hostel", then I will have to arrange to have you murdered.