Go bikers!

I declare a drivers vs. bikers flame thread.

/pretty please?

Fallout Boy: I declare a drivers vs. bikers flame thread.

/pretty please?

hows bout SUV hate thread instead?

I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

While riding my bicycle last week, I was grazed by some a-hole who had a "Be kind to cyclists, in memory of ____." Dude never even looked while I yelled and rang my dinky little bell.

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

You sound fat.

redjaggers: Fallout Boy: I declare a drivers vs. bikers flame thread.

/pretty please?

hows bout SUV hate thread instead?

How about both?



/Rock on!

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

I don't even have a car (I get around via public transportation and walking) and I hate them: In spite of the millions spent providing these asswipes with bike lanes and paths they still roll full tilt down crowded sidewalks. And as for stop signs and traffic lights? They ignore them. There is probably no bigger group of douchebags than bikers.

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

:-( I don't think its unreasonable to expect bikers to use the road during a race. Its hard to ride a race on the sidewalk.

cmb53208: Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

I don't even have a car (I get around via public transportation and walking) and I hate them: In spite of the millions spent providing these asswipes with bike lanes and paths they still roll full tilt down crowded sidewalks. And as for stop signs and traffic lights? They ignore them. There is probably no bigger group of douchebags than bikers.

1. If not for cars, there would be no stop signs and lights.

2. How many bicyclists do you really see on sidewalks. Trool.

3. This thread will be 1000+ posts of flame war.

From the comments:

Fact one: Yes the ladies that were injured were racing, the accident happened in front of my mom's house.

Fact two: The woman driving the SUV was on her cell phone at the time of the accident and not paying attention to the attendants.

Fact three: She was only given a handful of tickets and let go.

Fact four: She was only crying after given the tickets. She did not cry when the one woman was not moving.

cmb53208: There is probably no bigger group of douchebags than bikers.

Says the TotalFarker

What, no hero tag?

Crown_of_Shoes: 1. If not for cars, there would be no stop signs and lights.

Which has what, exactly, to do with the fact that bikers often ignore them, when they are supposed to follow the traffic laws?

kukukupo: non life-threatening injuries. RTFA. :-)

Crown_of_Shoes: 1. If not for cars, there would be no stop signs and lights.

The Good Roads Movement was started by bycicylists in the early 20th century.

Emnitikcits: From the comments:

Fact one: Yes the ladies that were injured were racing, the accident happened in front of my mom's house.

Fact two: The woman driving the SUV was on her cell phone at the time of the accident and not paying attention to the attendants.

Fact three: She was only given a handful of tickets and let go.

Fact four: She was only crying after given the tickets. She did not cry when the one woman was not moving.

What's her Fark handle?

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

It was a bike race on a closed-off road, dickhead.

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

"not sure if serious"





/ If Google says that's what the image is, who am I to argue?

ultraholland: I almost want to sponsor you. Almost.

Please don't. I can't afford to lose the IQ points.

slothMD: Crown_of_Shoes: 1. If not for cars, there would be no stop signs and lights.

Which has what, exactly, to do with the fact that bikers often ignore them, when they are supposed to follow the traffic laws?

Cars often ignore them too. People suck at following rules to the letter.

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

Your trollwheel is rusty.

/and your package showing

I sincerely hope you die in your sleep... in a fire.

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

We have a lot of them up here now. Tour de France hits the air and boom, everyone buys a road bike and gets all dolled up in spandex. I don't mind the cyclists as I raced for 5 years. What I do mind is the groups who can't understand SINGLE FILE ON BUSY ROADS. I was heading into work the other day and there ya go, 3 abreast. I honk, yell out "single file" and the outside rider gives me the bird. Nothing like doing 15 in a 55. Crap like that doesn't help their cause.

/ps you can buy plain jerseys
//get some

The driver is okay, right?

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here...

Methinks you are. 2/10.

Now as a biking car owner, let me lambast both sides.

Bikers: wear a helmet. Put a light on your bike. And a brake. Ride the right way. Follow the law. Indicate which way you're going to turn. Critical mass riders are dicks. If you want to race, go out to the country where there's lots less traffic and more passing room. Or find an organized and sanctioned race.

Drivers: You are mostly a bunch of whiny ITG b*tches. Here in IL, it's LAW that you have to give us 3' clearance. You throw sh*t at me, I will throw my U-lock at your back window. They're pretty cheap to replace. If you nearly broadside me pulling out of a parking lot with no light, do not look like it's my fault you aren't paying attention.

I think that pretty well sums it up.

Only two? Meh...

Pfft. In EVERY city I've EVER lived whenever ANYONE returns from a holiday TOUR of France the city turns into a GIANT MELEE to buy MILLION DOLLAR 50 SPEEDS, wrap themselves in 5 LAYERS OF SPANDEX to ride 10 ACROSS down SIDEWALKS, SHOPPING MALLS and INTENSIVE CARE UNITS, chanting LANCE LANCE LANCE and FLIPPING THE BIRD at the WAKE OF DEAD BODIES left behind. And do they never stop at four-ways? No.

How was that? Am I in?

I just wish bicyclists would obey the traffic laws. Here is an example from today (new window).

Panty Sniffer: I just wish bicyclists would obey the traffic laws. Here is an example from today (new window).

Looks like a self-correcting problem.

/cyclist and driver.

neenerist: Pfft. In EVERY city I've EVER lived whenever ANYONE returns from a holiday TOUR of France the city turns into a GIANT MELEE to buy MILLION DOLLAR 50 SPEEDS, wrap themselves in 5 LAYERS OF SPANDEX to ride 10 ACROSS down SIDEWALKS, SHOPPING MALLS and INTENSIVE CARE UNITS, chanting LANCE LANCE LANCE and FLIPPING THE BIRD at the WAKE OF DEAD BODIES left behind. And do they never stop at four-ways? No.

Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

It was a farking closed course. The SUV had no right at all to be there, and broke through police barriers to even be in a position to hit the ladies

moitz: Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here...

Methinks you are. 2/10.

Now as a biking car owner, let me lambast both sides.

Bikers: wear a helmet. Put a light on your bike. And a brake. Ride the right way. Follow the law. Indicate which way you're going to turn. Critical mass riders are dicks. If you want to race, go out to the country where there's lots less traffic and more passing room. Or find an organized and sanctioned race.

Drivers: You are mostly a bunch of whiny ITG b*tches. Here in IL, it's LAW that you have to give us 3' clearance. You throw sh*t at me, I will throw my U-lock at your back window. They're pretty cheap to replace. If you nearly broadside me pulling out of a parking lot with no light, do not look like it's my fault you aren't paying attention.

I think that pretty well sums it up.

Agreed. We need to be ambassadors of our sport and that starts with following the rules of the road/trail (something I try to do). But the unfortunate fact of life is that people can and will be dicks. Some are dicks while riding bikes, others while driving cars. Bike dicks are annoying but car dicks are worse. They're dangerous.

g4lt: Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

It was a farking closed course. The SUV had no right at all to be there, and broke through police barriers to even be in a position to hit the ladies

The article doesn't say that. They probably were just cycling around town and unfortunately obstructed the way of someone who wasn't paying complete attention. Looks like both parties are at fault.

From the comments on the site:

Starmi - To respond a bit to your post - "I don't know who ever decided to make it legal for all these bike riders to ride where ever they want." - that would be the law. Cyclists have the legal right to ride on the road, as far to the right as is safe and to follow the rules of the road. A lot do not do this, that is true, but a lot of drivers ignore the rules of the road also, so....this is a cyclical discussion that will always end in drivers agreeing to disagree with cyclists.

"Roads were made for cars!" - Actually, this is NOT true. Roads were originally made by the Romans for walking, horses and chariots, but paved roads were originally made for...you guessed it, BIKES!!!! Google it - it's true! Bikes were in existence before cars and the original function of pavement was to make the road surface smoother for bicycles!

All of this aside, I'm afraid that you've missed the point of this discussion and this article. These riders were not simply "riding on the road" - they were on a CLOSED course. A course that had been temporarily, legally closed to automobile traffic in order for them to compete in an event safely. This woman, ILLEGALLY driving while on her cell phone, drove through barriers onto the course and struck these riders.

Therefore, please think about the two women - one of whom is a 60 year old, multi-time national champion, friend, and mentor to MANY young women in New Jersey cycling - who were hit while doing something they love, racing their bikes. And, the next time you're on the road - please be patient and considerate to cyclists. We aren't there to make you angry or to impede your speed, but to enjoy our bikes. It takes a few seconds for you to slow down and pass us safely - just like it took a few seconds for this woman to send two of my friends to the hospital.

So we cool?

Penman: g4lt: Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here but I hate these cyclists. They're a nuisance on the road. Just get on a farking exercise bike and stay inside or go on a bike trail. Every time one of these spandex douches are in my way I have fantasies about running them down.

It was a farking closed course. The SUV had no right at all to be there, and broke through police barriers to even be in a position to hit the ladies

The article doesn't say that. They probably were just cycling around town and unfortunately obstructed the way of someone who wasn't paying complete attention. Looks like both parties are at fault.

From the comments: "The fact that the roads where closed off all day I know I live on mercer why the hell would you be going through there when it was blocked off. and knowing that a race is going on flyers where given to everyone in the area.

I went off to work down cherry to the end down where they have it open to mercer and out to south main and that is how you have to come back in. Some people just think they own the road and have no disregard for anyone.

Mercer st is not a race way for fast driving eather there are speed signs, new watch for children signs. community watch signs, and one way signs and we still get jerks speeding and going the wrong way it is bad and someone is going to get hurt bad or killed."

wisconsin is a great cyclist/driver state.
while most east coast states, cycling is illegal and the cyclist have no rights what so ever.
go cars!

Panty Sniffer: I just wish bicyclists would obey the traffic laws. Here is an example from today (new window).

Let me correct my previous post. Bike dicks are annoying and dangerous to themselves. Car dicks are dangerous to everyone.

/now someone's going to post an article where the bicyclist kills someone
//pre-emptive "goddammitsomuch"

Mitch Taylor's Bro: moitz: Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here...

Methinks you are. 2/10.

Now as a biking car owner, let me lambast both sides.

Bikers: wear a helmet. Put a light on your bike. And a brake. Ride the right way. Follow the law. Indicate which way you're going to turn. Critical mass riders are dicks. If you want to race, go out to the country where there's lots less traffic and more passing room. Or find an organized and sanctioned race.

Drivers: You are mostly a bunch of whiny ITG b*tches. Here in IL, it's LAW that you have to give us 3' clearance. You throw sh*t at me, I will throw my U-lock at your back window. They're pretty cheap to replace. If you nearly broadside me pulling out of a parking lot with no light, do not look like it's my fault you aren't paying attention.

I think that pretty well sums it up.

Agreed. We need to be ambassadors of our sport and that starts with following the rules of the road/trail (something I try to do). But the unfortunate fact of life is that people can and will be dicks. Some are dicks while riding bikes, others while driving cars. Bike dicks are annoying but car dicks are worse. They're dangerous.

I've lived in a couple of places where biking is popular. I've witnessed a number of close calls and seen a few accidents when cars and bikes meet. What seems almost universal, is that when the car is in the wrong, the cyclist angrily rants at the driver. When the cyclist is in the wrong, the cyclist angrily rants at the driver.

I almost hit a guy on a bike at a four way stop because he didn't signal. No signal means you're going straight, not turning left in front of me. I got an earful for that. I was on a very fast and busy street going down a hill in SF when a cyclist came flying out of a cross street and narrowly missed my car. He started flipping out at me. I'm a cautious driver. In 10+ years of driving I've never been pulled over.

I love the idea of cycling. I almost exclusively walk and take public transportation. I think most people could lose their car and ride or walk a lot more than they do. If cyclists want people to ditch their cars and make the roads better for their sport and transportation, they need to man up.

has anyone figured out that HUMANS both ride and drive?
therefore drivers and riders will not get along
both will always be right while the other is a fault.

on a personal note, im getting tired of telling cars to stop at these stop signs instead of flying through then infront of my wheel
and give me some room when you pass by me and stop at the intersection.

sorry about wearing spandex, but the material is very comfortable and less wind resistant. i understand i must heed to car drivers and their options on clothing so i will reconsider my life and existence.

moitz: Bruce Deuce: I'm not trolling here...

Methinks you are. 2/10.

Now as a biking car owner, let me lambast both sides.

Bikers: wear a helmet. Put a light on your bike. And a brake. Ride the right way. Follow the law. Indicate which way you're going to turn. Critical mass riders are dicks. If you want to race, go out to the country where there's lots less traffic and more passing room. Or find an organized and sanctioned race.

Drivers: You are mostly a bunch of whiny ITG b*tches. Here in IL, it's LAW that you have to give us 3' clearance. You throw sh*t at me, I will throw my U-lock at your back window. They're pretty cheap to replace. If you nearly broadside me pulling out of a parking lot with no light, do not look like it's my fault you aren't paying attention.

I think that pretty well sums it up.

I have a simple rule that I follow - whenever I encounter a cyclist in traffic, I visualize them in an invisible box roughly the size of another automobile - and I give that box the same distance and safety clearance I would an automobile. Most cyclists obey the rules of the road - and even if they don't, I am not willing to risk killing or maiming another person just because they're being a douche.

That's supposed to be Fat Homer but it was simply not meant to be..

davidphogan: Cars often ignore them too. People suck at following rules to the letter.

I beg to differ. Cars rarely just blatantly ignore traffic lights and stop signs as though they don't apply to them. I'm all for sharing the road (and some of my best friends are bikers), but everyone has to do their part - and for the bikers that means obeying the damn traffic laws.

louiedog: I've lived in a couple of places where biking is popular. I've witnessed a number of close calls and seen a few accidents when cars and bikes meet. What seems almost universal, is that when the car is in the wrong, the cyclist angrily rants at the driver. When the cyclist is in the wrong, the cyclist angrily rants at the driver.

Oh I totally agree. The amount of hipster dickbags I see riding the wrong way, blowing through intersections, with no lights, no helmets, and no brakes is utterly mind-boggling. They seem to have the reverse peek-a-boo theory that if they can see you, you can see them. Totally, totally wrong, and in Chicago it's potentially deadly.

So to any skinny-pantsed, fixie riding hipsters out there, PUT A FARKING BRAKE AND LIGHTS ON YOUR GODDAMNED BIKE.

slothMD: davidphogan: Cars often ignore them too. People suck at following rules to the letter.

I beg to differ. Cars rarely just blatantly ignore traffic lights and stop signs as though they don't apply to them. I'm all for sharing the road (and some of my best friends are bikers), but everyone has to do their part - and for the bikers that means obeying the damn traffic laws.

This one did, it ignored a "road closed" sign

uberdose: and have no disregard for anyone.

clasic...
/please learn how to use your words correctly.
//unless you meant to say has regard for anyone?
///double negatives, how do they work?

g4lt: This one did, it ignored a "road closed" sign

Yeah, this biatch is stupid, and totally at fault. I hope they throw the book at her.

"wisconsin is a great cyclist/driver state."

So is WV, though the cyclists have to look out for the deer and Zeke on his tractor, same as the rest of us.