What are little boys made of?
Frogs and snails
And puppy-dogs' tails,
That's what little boys are made of.

What are little girls made of?

...bloatiness and farts.

It's been a long time since high school biology. Can some educated farker explain to me why people think anything they do can change their baby's gender?

Is it not just a product of which sperm fertilized which egg?

Who pays for this crap? Girl sperm lives longer. Its all in the timing.

I do not want a baby girl; I prefer women...

FunkOut: They just listed my regular diet except for the tofu. Throw in beets, collard greens, carrots, and eggs and I'd be happy.

you might not be avoiding potassium, which is possibly the key... Anyways, can they prove pathology, or is this just correlation?

Honest Bender: It's been a long time since high school biology. Can some educated farker explain to me why people think anything they do can change their baby's gender?

Is it not just a product of which sperm fertilized which egg?

It's not just an eeny-meeny-miney-moe process as to what will pop out when any given sperm fertilizes any given egg. Basically, the egg is just chilling out when it's pelted with some X-sperm and some Y-sperm, and whichever one breaches the hull first gets its little spermy self formed into babby.

So I think the idea is that certain factors (like diet, timing, etc.) are better for either X-chromosome sperm or Y-chromosome sperm.

And that is my biology-hating, liberal-arts-majorey way of understanding it.

I am finding it hard to believe you will be getting laid at all if you are farting that much.

\I'm just saying...

Honest Bender: It's been a long time since high school biology. Can some educated farker explain to me why people think anything they do can change their baby's gender?

Is it not just a product of which sperm fertilized which egg?

Yeah, how does ANYTHING the mother does influence the gender of the baby? She always contributes an X...

Mad-n-FL: I do not want a baby girl; I prefer women...

Ya but wouldn't that hurt coming out?

kfde: Yeah, how does ANYTHING the mother does influence the gender of the baby?

While I agree more information is required, maybe there's something in the diet that makes it easier for X carrying sperm (or harder for Y) to travel in the mother.

I suppose that the cheese has to be sliced?

Wrong.

Candles, soft music and Aqua Velva.

/twin girls

FunkOut: On another note (heh), I eat plenty of stuff that gives other people gas and have no problems digesting it. Perhaps you need a lifelong diet of it to be used to it.

you could adapt in just a few weeks, probably. It has to do with your body getting used to more fiber, or maybe different fiber, but before your body gets good at breaking down the new stuff there will be more of it for the flora to turn into gas.

IIRC one of the sperms are bigger or something so there is a theory that filters could screen the sperm so only the Ys get through. maybe all that dairy thickens the mucosa, or the beef hormones kill the Y sperm...

I want to see the control group for this study. I'm cynical. It's the male that determines the sex of the baby, unless the female has developed a mutation that gives her control over her eggs, allowing them to only permit X vs. Y sperm to fertilize.

I'm thinking that the couples wanted a girl, so the male somehow produced more X sperm. Not sure what the mechanism of this is, but there you have it.

What a waste of research dollars. No matter what a woman eats, her eggs will still only contain the X sex chromosome.

little miss: What a waste of research dollars. No matter what a woman eats, her eggs will still only contain the X sex chromosome.

THIS!

people forget that sperm determines genetic gender anyone who says otherwise is trying to scam you, has the dumb or both

FunkOut: On another note (heh), I eat plenty of stuff that gives other people gas and have no problems digesting it

Are you kidding? I eat stuff for the express purpose of getting gas.

Cabbage, I'm looking at you.

kfde: Yeah, how does ANYTHING the mother does influence the gender of the baby? She always contributes an X...
Tommy Moo: unless the female has developed a mutation that gives her control over her eggs
little miss: What a waste of research dollars. No matter what a woman eats, her eggs will still only contain the X sex chromosome.

As far as I'm aware, that's kind of a simplistic view. These sperm have to travel a decently long way (well, long if you're a sperm), and there are pH levels and mucus and and all sorts of womanly ickyness to contend with. Perhaps some varieties of womanly ickiness are superior.

Not to mention when the sperm get there, they have to get through an egg; maybe this is just me knowing not very much about biology, but I don't see where it's that ludicrous to imagine that diet and habit could minutely change the chemical makeup of her body.

kfde: Honest Bender: It's been a long time since high school biology. Can some educated farker explain to me why people think anything they do can change their baby's gender?

Is it not just a product of which sperm fertilized which egg?

Yeah, how does ANYTHING the mother does influence the gender of the baby? She always contributes an X...

The sperm with the xx are larger, hardier, can survive longer. The xy are faster since they have less mass. The idea is that the closer to ovulation, the better the chances for the xy, but further away, the xx has the advantage. As for which food products, i'm guessing it changes the vaginal/cervical/uterine environment to be either thicker, thinner, different nutrient build up, different acidity. Either way, changing it to favor the tortoise or the hare. So yes, all other things being equal, it is 50-50, but the road travelled is contributory.

Mail on Sunday is a very prestigious scientific journal where only the best peer-reviewed research is published.

little miss: What a waste of research dollars. No matter what a woman eats, her eggs will still only contain the X sex chromosome.

Sperm aren't able to fertilize an egg until they undergo capacitation, which occurs in the uterine tube. Perhaps something in the mother's diet could help preferentially capacitate X labeled sperm.

So I think it is a waste of money, but it's not bad science.

I usually just squeeze the left nut while cumming if I want a girl, or the right nut if I want a boy.

50% of the time, it works every time.

farquette: kfde: Yeah, how does ANYTHING the mother does influence the gender of the baby? She always contributes an X...
Tommy Moo: unless the female has developed a mutation that gives her control over her eggs
little miss: What a waste of research dollars. No matter what a woman eats, her eggs will still only contain the X sex chromosome.

As far as I'm aware, that's kind of a simplistic view. These sperm have to travel a decently long way (well, long if you're a sperm), and there are pH levels and mucus and and all sorts of womanly ickyness to contend with. Perhaps some varieties of womanly ickiness are superior.

Not to mention when the sperm get there, they have to get through an egg; maybe this is just me knowing not very much about biology, but I don't see where it's that ludicrous to imagine that diet and habit could minutely change the chemical makeup of her body.

Yes, I agree that there are all sorts of factors that influence our health, perhaps too many to make a study like this of any value. For starters, Who do you use as a control group and how do you control that control group?

slepygryhnd: Ph in the vagina has something to do with it. Maybe these foods affect the ph.

This should be an easy study to do. Separate X and Y sperm. Note survival rates at different pHs. Publish.

/profit?

I always theorized that "healthier" women tended to have girls more often. My logic was that when you're poor or malnourished you would be more likely to have a laborer (male) as a child to help bring you up. The healthier would have girls because they could afford to do so.

After reading this article, I stick to my theory as it is just as crackpot.

/read into healthy how you will

Diet of bacon cheeseburgers and zebra cakes for my baby girl..

Worked 100% of the time.

little miss: What a waste of research dollars. No matter what a woman eats, her eggs will still only contain the X sex chromosome.

Really? You find this difficult? What if what the woman eats changes the chemical makeup of her body fluids? Thereby inhibiting the mobility of Y sperm? Or? Makes the egg wall less easily penetrated by Y sperm?

wow i would have guessed it depended on the male sperm that fertilized the egg having an X or Y chromosome after meiotic division

little miss: Yes, I agree that there are all sorts of factors that influence our health, perhaps too many to make a study like this of any value. For starters, Who do you use as a control group and how do you control that control group?

Oh, it's almost certainly a waste of taxpayer expense; I'm not defending this study's ridiculous existence.

My point was the same that many have since made more eloquently than I did: an argument that this study is pointless because eggs only contain the X sex chromosome (and I can point to that argument at least five different times in this thread so far) is a just plain bad argument.

"Scientists" say stick to beans and hard cheese if you want a baby girl, gas

Fixed for accuracy.

/scientists understand science
/"scientists" do not

UsikFark:
you could adapt in just a few weeks, probably. It has to do with your body getting used to more fiber, or maybe different fiber, but before your body gets good at breaking down the new stuff there will be more of it for the flora to turn into gas.

I hate to break it to you, but there's a reason vegetarians/vegans still buy "Beano". My wife and I have been vegetarians for years and I swear to god... chick peas just farking KILL me. I swear I just want to go hide in the shed for a day until it passes.

Humans cannot digest the oligosaccharides in beans. You can soak em, but that only helps a bit. Only alpha-galactosidase will solve the problem and your body will never secrete enough of it on its own :(

So tofu makes girls and bacon makes boys. Sounds about right.

Obnox: So tofu makes girls and bacon makes boys. Sounds about right.

And I have to wonder: what if she still has a boy after all that, does he turn out gay? Do they come from tofu?

Ph in the vagina has something to do with it. Maybe these foods affect the ph.


EXACTLY.

I don't know what "scientists" these guys are, but it's entirely ph.

I guess they forgot that part at "scientist school".

Considering that only 80% of the test subjects had success, I'm wondering if they controlled for the father's diet during this setup. That might affect what sperm are produced.

Fun fact: A large majority of sperm released are never able to fertilize an egg. There are various theories about what function these other sperm may have, but no real consensus. In a few studies, they've seen "fertility rates" of sperm at as low as 1%.



As for gas/no gas, the type of bacteria that live in your gut can affect what byproducts are released when digesting human non-digestible material. Methane release (ie. farts) is actually a byproduct of microbial metabolism, not human digestion. If only they had invented a way to have non-methane producing probiotics for plant matter digestion.

farquette: little miss: Yes, I agree that there are all sorts of factors that influence our health, perhaps too many to make a study like this of any value. For starters, Who do you use as a control group and how do you control that control group?

Oh, it's almost certainly a waste of taxpayer expense; I'm not defending this study's ridiculous existence.

My point was the same that many have since made more eloquently than I did: an argument that this study is pointless because eggs only contain the X sex chromosome (and I can point to that argument at least five different times in this thread so far) is a just plain bad argument.

I agree.
In reality, we probably all know very little about how the study was conducted and what it hoped to accomplish or understand, thanks to the moronic simplification of science reporters.

FunkOut: Perhaps the diet influence is on the pH of the body and a certain pH will cause the fragile Y sperm to largely die before they reach the egg.

Fascinatingly, in birds the female is the one with the male and female gametes, not the male.

Diet definitely effects the pH of bodily fluids. The same holds true with sperm. People in this thread are being ridiculous. The female gamete is always X, but the sperm is traveling uterine tubes. Sperm aren't able to penetrate the egg until they undergo capacitation, modification of the glycocalyx coating on the acrosome. Capacitation also clips the tail of the sperm making motility a little easier.

So anything that influences pH, the capacitation reaction, or the coronal and zona reactions could help in determining which sperm makes it.

All those conditions are established by the female, so saying "the sperm decides the babby" is a very simplistic view.

That said, this study seems kind of useless.

/also birds only have one hole (cloacal opening) that does triple duty as anus, urethra, and sex organ

drewkumo: /also birds only have one hole (cloacal opening) that does triple duty as anus, urethra, and sex organ


Sounds sexy

In my experience, you tell the husband you're in the "safe zone" of your cycle and he doesn't need to use the condom (since you hated the pill and quit using it 6 months prior). You later look at the calendar and say "Oh Fark Me!" and hope and pray you're okay. A couple of weeks later, after drinking a lot and feeling "weird" afterward, you take a pee test and get a huge surprise.

/25 weeks pregnant with a currently nameless Baby Girl
//3 year old boy was very much planned
///couldn't be happier with the way things turned out
////really craving a slurpee right now. :)