Heckel, who admitted drinking five wine coolers earlier that day

"I have come from the 80's to claim a victim!"

I can get 'em to wait 2 hours before checking my BAC, too, not that I'd ever need to do this.

As much as I love a good corrupt cop story, This one sounds like it was correctly handled. She wasn't drunk. She wasn't driving erratically the victim was walking in the middle of the street.

Sid_6.7: Heckel, who admitted drinking five wine coolers earlier that day

"I have come from the 80's to claim a victim!"

I've only had one wine kill you buzz cooler!

Sid_6.7: Heckel, who admitted drinking five wine coolers earlier that day

"I have come from the 80's to claim a victim!"

You owe me a keyboard you magnificent bastard.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but due to the rate alcohol metabolizes can't your BAC actually go UP in two hours if you've only recently stopped drinking?

Heckel told investigators she had drunk only water after 6:30 p.m. Tests more than two hours after the crash showed a blood alcohol concentration of 0.057. Wisconsin law defines legally intoxicated as 0.08 or above.

your body burns about a drink an hour. so waiting 2 hours can have a large impact on whether she was intoxicated or not.
so waiting 2 hours is approximately 2 drinks.
2 drinks for 100lb woman is approx .1bac

so yah, about that not being over the limit and not being legally drunk and not getting favored treatment cause she was family of a cop??

arrest them all let a jury sort it out.

pedistrian always has the right of way
exceptions are made for limited access roads (highways)
Combs was walking with a friend in the same westbound lane Heckel was traveling.
so was this one of those, everyone walks on the road because there are no sidewalks?
Link (new window)

I would LOVE to know what the friend she was walking with has to say about this.

I would love to know what is normal for this road.
does everyone walk on the road or do they walk on the grass and mud on the side of the road??

/sure this was a case of cops treating citizens equally, unless they are a cop wife/cousin/brother/judge/mayor/BULLshiat

TwistedIvory: Correct me if I'm wrong, but due to the rate alcohol metabolizes can't your BAC actually go UP in two hours if you've only recently stopped drinking?

YES
but she said that she had stopped hours before. so that it would not have gone up a lot ...

1) test immediately
2) wait 20-40 mins while watching that they do not put anything into their mouth and retest.

turns out there is wierd shiat involved with stuff in your mouth and carbs and bad test results and and and

that's business as usual in the land of the free.


many times, its not what you know, but who u know and who knows you.(and who u blow)


Meritocracy is all but dead in the "greatest country on earth".

Need_MindBleach: Idiot teenager walks down a highway lane during pitch darkness, is struck and killed by a legally-driving motorist.

The cops farked up bad if they didn't administer a BAC test at the scene of the crash, but if the driver was sober, she shouldn't be charged with a goddamn thing.

sure, fine, maybe
but she wasnt sober. they didnt give the test for 2 hours so that her level would go down.
clear shennanigans

absolutely NO reason to NOT give the test right away and then at intervals to deal with false readings ...
esp since she wasnt drunk and didnt have to prove her innocence.

instead, the state will lose this civil case and have to pay taxpayer money because of police misconduct ....

where do you walk when there are no sidewalks?
in rural areas people walk on the roads ....

sigh

while it might be exactly what the cops claim it was, by not following proper proceedures and collect evidence coorectly they are getting their dumbasses sued.

your tax dollars at work
YAY

octopied: Witnesses said she was driving legally and safely , and because the BAC wasn't administered right away, we don't know if she was over or not,also the teen was walking in the road, so unless it can be proven alcohol caused her to hit a pedestrian who was engaging in unsafe behavior, this is really nothing other than a tragic accident.

No, in America it's never an accident. It ALWAYS has to be someone's fault. ALWAYS!!!

Actually, because of the extremely clock-like way BAC can be measured now, it's theoretically possible to extrapolate backward from the time of the test to the time of the accident and estimate the person's BAC then. Given how low her BAC was at the time of the test, it's unlikely she was stumbling drunk only two hours earlier. A .057 BAC is way below legally drunk, so she probably was telling the truth about when she last drank. And we know she already admitted to drinking something as horrible as a wine cooler, so there's no reason to doubt her veracity.

Two hours would not, for instance, cause someone to test .057 if they had been at a .16 at the time of the accident. Certainly not a female, since we process alcohol more slowly than men.

Sargun: So to recap:

her blood alcohol level was at extreme max .08 but we won't know that,
BUT witnesses say she drove safely and legally,
and the victim was walking down a highway lane in the pitch black of night.

everybody dun goofed but this isn't a corrupt cop story

where does it say pitch black?
9pm isnt that late in wisconsin in the summer...
was probably closer to twilight

what date did the death occur on??

sk8r: Just keep burping- the rule is 15- 20 minutes to test after a burp since the alcohol from the stomach can elevate results. They have to wait to test- drives em nuts.

and puke

ipeeintheshower: Tests more than two hours after the crash showed a blood alcohol concentration of 0.057. Wisconsin law defines legally intoxicated as 0.08 or above.


Isn't it pretty much a mathematical fact that if you tested at .057 2 hours after the crash that you would have tested > .08 at the time of the crash?

Or am I just really out there or something?

I posted so fark math a few comments back.
yes, if she was .57 2 hours later she was legal drunk when the death occured.

simple science

z_gringo: She wasn't drunk

She may or may not have been drunk. But if she tested at 0.057 two hours later she would likely have been above 0.08 at the time of the accident, which would get anyone not driving with a cop thrown in jail, even if it doesn't constitute any meaningful level of drunk.

sk8r: Depends on the size and metabolic rate of the drinker. Any of you farkers found us a pic of the driver?

no pic
but assuming 1 drink per hour metabolized
2 hrs = 2 drinks
100lb woman, 2 drinks = .09
200lb fatthing, 2 drinks = .05
so either way, figure over the limit ...

by a little over or a lot over ... either way

Penman: namatad: where do you walk when there are no sidewalks?
in rural areas people walk on the roads ....

sigh

while it might be exactly what the cops claim it was, by not following proper proceedures and collect evidence coorectly they are getting their dumbasses sued.

your tax dollars at work
YAY

You're supposed to walk on the left side^ of the road; apparently they were not.

left side, facing on coming traffic, so you can see the cars lights and move out of the way.

did the article say which side they were on?
same westbound lane that the car was traveling ...
sigh ....

so dumbfark kid was killed cause she was walking on the wrong side of the road.
-1 for dumbfark kid

drunk driver hit and killed kid, cops waited 2 hours to test in order to get the BAC level down

-1 driver and cops

family will win this civil lawsuit.
cops that did the misconduct? rewarded ...
sigh

sk8r: namatad: sk8r: Just keep burping- the rule is 15- 20 minutes to test after a burp since the alcohol from the stomach can elevate results. They have to wait to test- drives em nuts.

and puke

Puking is your friend- just don't try to hyperventilate in the back of the cop car. Your lungs don't metabolise alcohol your liver does- it just comes out through the capillary beds on your lung surface. You are just stinking up the cop car- not dropping your BAC.

That's gonna get the cops soooo very happy.

AmazingRuss: Need_MindBleach: octopied: Witnesses said she was driving legally and safely , and because the BAC wasn't administered right away, we don't know if she was over or not,also the teen was walking in the road, so unless it can be proven alcohol caused her to hit a pedestrian who was engaging in unsafe behavior, this is really nothing other than a tragic accident.

Dozens of sober drivers probably passed by the girl without hitting her. Do you think it's pure coincidence that the driver who hit the pedestrian likely had a BAC over the legal limit at the time of the crash?

If you are driving while legally intoxicated and hit and kill someone, you are solely at fault, as far as I am concerned.

And you're a self-righteous nannydouche, as far as everyone else is concerned.

Get out of my head! ;)