no one puts baby in a corner

/felt like i needed to
//kinda like asking "who's there"

I carried a watermelon.

Loucifer: She should do it. Probably have the time of her life.

she may not have felt this way before.

...Jennifer Grey is 51...?

God, does that make me feel old...

Damn, I read that as Sasha Grey on Dancing with the Stars...until the end.

That would have made Dancing with the Stars worth watching.

Nobody puts Toddler under a table.

/wait, what?

/ I'd put her in a corner
// and gorilla fark her for hours
/// ok, minutes but you get the point.

slayer199: Damn, I read that as Sasha Grey on Dancing with the Stars...until the end.

That would have made Dancing with the Stars worth watching.

Actually, Joel Grey would have made it worth watching:



You dance like baboon... with two clubbed feet!

dittybopper: You dance like baboon... with two clubbed feet!

ROFL. Well-played Sir.

Nice reference to Remo Williams.

slayer199: dittybopper: You dance like baboon... with two clubbed feet!

ROFL. Well-played Sir.

Nice reference to Remo Williams.

For that extra juiced-in goodness, Joel Grey is actually Jennifer Grey's father.

No Such Agency: Didn't she also play the chick in Red Dawn who was raped offscreen by the Russians and then later booby trapped her own soon-to-be corpse with a hand grenade? God, what a ridiculous movie that was.


It was much more subtle and even-handed that you give it credit for. That character, Colonel Strelnikov, argues that reprisals against civilians are wrong and counterproductive, and he is an honest and honorable soldier who cares about his men. Not quite the one dimensional "bad guy" you would expect in a film that is supposedly an unabashed "Rah, rah USA kicks ass!" kind of film.

He's also an effective soldier: The Wolverines are pretty much wiped out within a month of his arrival in the area.

TheLopper: Hardy-r-r: I thought she was more attractive pre-nose job.

Yeah, the old nose gave her a more unique look. Now she just looks...average?

/Plus she wears too much makeup. My sister wears too much. People think she's a whore.

I have it on good authority that she has a scorching case of herpes, and that she's acquired her father's firearm.

No Such Agency: dittybopper:
No Such Agency: Didn't she also play the chick in Red Dawn who was raped offscreen by the Russians and then later booby trapped her own soon-to-be corpse with a hand grenade? God, what a ridiculous movie that was.

It was much more subtle and even-handed that you give it credit for. That character, Colonel Strelnikov, argues that reprisals against civilians are wrong and counterproductive, and he is an honest and honorable soldier who cares about his men. Not quite the one dimensional "bad guy" you would expect in a film that is supposedly an unabashed "Rah, rah USA kicks ass!" kind of film.

He's also an effective soldier: The Wolverines are pretty much wiped out within a month of his arrival in the area.

Yes but given the other hilariously warped 90% of the movie, that didn't redeem it much. Just enough to make it watchable. I think that was actually the stub of the movie the director really wanted to make.

Oh, you mean the other parts where the leader of the Wolverines is a dumb jock bully, the Cuban leader (Colonel Bella) hates what he has become and wants only to resign and to return to his wife. Or Yuri, the naive and sympathetic Soviet who gets killed by Jed. Or the unnamed Soviets who only want what all young soldiers want: A date with a pretty girl. Or perhaps you mean the part where Robert is certifiably psychopathic, to the point where he willingly kills his erstwhile friend Darryl. Or perhaps you mean the part where the only difference that Jed Eckert can find between the "bad guys" and them is "Because we live here". Or the part where Colonel Bella allows mortally wounded Matt and Jed to pass, saying "Via con Dios" and throwing down his AK in disgust. What about Colonel Tanner, who is rather dubious of what the Wolverines are doing.

The movie has much more depth and is much more subtle than people give it credit for. You have to actually engage your brain when you watch it, though, and not sit back and just enjoy the asplosiony goodness.

It's a much more even handed film than most people first assume, and way above any other "bad guys invade the USA" film.


And, as much as people in the 80's were total mongos, even they would have balked at the idea that a Soviet command made up of mindless sadistic butchers could defeat the US to the point where they occupied the Midwest.

That's just it: The movie doesn't portray the Soviets and Cubans as mindless butchers. Probably the only truly evil stereotyped communist in the whole film is General Bratchenko, ably played by the late Vladek Sheybal. Sure, Colonel Bella commits at least one major war crime (executing civilians en masse), but that's likely due to pressures from above*, and due to the fact that Bella isn't used to being an occupier, but rather as a partisan. Colonel Strelnikov, the Spetznaz commander brought in to hunt down the Wolverines, stops that policy of civilian reprisals as counterproductive.

You have to actually read the subtitles to get the whole story, you know. I know it's difficult for a lot of people, but really, you should at least *TRY*.

*Not explicitly stated in the film, but implied by Bratchenko's attitude and apparent position as Bella's superior.

eikni: I miss the old nose still.

Oh so very THIS.

I am with Dittybopper on the Red Dawn thing.

John Milius is definitely a thinking man's movie maker.