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(The Raw Story) Amusing Crowd estimate expert who was once cheered by teabaggers for downsizing the Obama inaugural is now derided by the same for downsizing the Glenn Beck crowd   (rawstory.com) divider line 214
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FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 03:20:16 PM
"conservatives" are children. they really are.
 
AdolfOliverPanties [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 03:28:26 PM
bad link 404
 
oldebayer
2010-09-01 03:33:02 PM
Just look at the pictures. You can tell by the pixies that half the people at the coronation were photoshopped in, while at least two million were digitally erased from the Beck rally.

Pixies never lie.
 
patrick767
2010-09-01 03:36:23 PM
Conservatives are absolutely desperate to believe that their views are held by most Americans.
 
patrick767
2010-09-01 03:39:34 PM
Also...
According to one Fox News affiliate, "Organizers of the rally had permits for a crowd of up to 300,000 and expected 100,000." In the course of the rally, however, Beck estimated that there were 300,000 to 500,000 people present, and that estimate of has been widely accepted by the mainstream media, with NBC News and the New York Times both going with 300,000 and the Drudge Report and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough reporting 500,000.

wtf kind of news organizations go with the event leader's own estimate for how many people came to his rally instead of using an objective source? Morons.
 
vartian [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 03:48:53 PM
I was there, I have lived in DC for over 20 years and seen many, many of these rallies. I thought it looked like about 100k people. Not bad by any means, but certainly not half a million people.
 
make me some tea [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 03:50:02 PM
patrick767: Also...
According to one Fox News affiliate, "Organizers of the rally had permits for a crowd of up to 300,000 and expected 100,000." In the course of the rally, however, Beck estimated that there were 300,000 to 500,000 people present, and that estimate of has been widely accepted by the mainstream media, with NBC News and the New York Times both going with 300,000 and the Drudge Report and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough reporting 500,000.

wtf kind of news organizations go with the event leader's own estimate for how many people came to his rally instead of using an objective source? Morons.

Seriously.

I tell ya, the MSM has increasingly become about as useful as an infomercial anymore.

You can pretty much track the direction that MSM has gone in a nutshell by looking at the demise of the Discovery Channel, TLC and History Channel. They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

/support public broadcasting, that's what
 
make me some tea [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 03:51:15 PM
vartian: I was there, I have lived in DC for over 20 years and seen many, many of these rallies. I thought it looked like about 100k people. Not bad by any means, but certainly not half a million people.

I was speculating in the Saturday thread that it was 100K people tops, just eyeballing the aerial view.
 
mediablitz [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 04:11:20 PM
The flyover shots sure look like a crowd about the size of a football crowd at a Michigan game. That stadium holds 100k or so.

Obviously not scientific but compare a blimp shot this weekend at one of the big stadiums.
 
make me some tea [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 04:19:56 PM
mediablitz: The flyover shots sure look like a crowd about the size of a football crowd at a Michigan game. That stadium holds 100k or so.

Obviously not scientific but compare a blimp shot this weekend at one of the big stadiums.

Plus about half of the crowd in those photos is fairly disperse toward the edges.
 
Skail
2010-09-01 04:21:53 PM
make me some tea: They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

In all fairness, "Through the Wormhole" is a pretty good series when it's not focusing on the existence of a "creator."
 
Diogenes [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 04:22:30 PM
I warned you guys before -- you have to be careful with Teabaggers. That breed will turn on you.

/spay and neuter your teabaggers
 
kingoomieiii [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 04:31:32 PM
Skail: make me some tea: They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

In all fairness, "Through the Wormhole" is a pretty good series when it's not focusing on the existence of a "creator."

"Maybe we're in the goddamned matrix!"

that's not a theory, it's a goddamned thought experiment, you fake scientist
 
make me some tea [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 04:48:10 PM
Skail: make me some tea: They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

In all fairness, "Through the Wormhole" is a pretty good series when it's not focusing on the existence of a "creator."

I haven't seen that one. Probably because I've largely given up watching Discovery and its bretheren channels with a few exceptions here and there. I'll keep an eye out for it though.
 
cretinbob [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 04:53:53 PM
piratesoft.org
 
impaler [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 05:04:39 PM
make me some tea: You can pretty much track the direction that MSM has gone in a nutshell by looking at the demise of the Discovery Channel, TLC and History Channel. They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

You know who else is disappointed in those channels?
 
impaler [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 05:05:36 PM
"The frothing underscores the problem with hyped predictions of crowd size," Doig remarks. "Organizers and supporters are forced to insist loudly that the actual crowd met or exceeded their expectations, for fear that the realistic estimate will be painted as a disappointment. The time-honored way to dismiss scientific estimates that don't reflect the pre-event hype is to claim political bias on the part of those doing the estimate. I am amused to see that those who embraced my Obama inauguration estimate as soberly realistic are now attacking the Beck rally estimate, produced using exactly the same methods, as deliberately biased."

And this is why "crowd size" is such a stupid concept.
 
make me some tea [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 05:16:29 PM
impaler: make me some tea: You can pretty much track the direction that MSM has gone in a nutshell by looking at the demise of the Discovery Channel, TLC and History Channel. They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

You know who else is disappointed in those channels?

Viewers Like You?

:)
 
what_now [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 05:16:50 PM
Why is this such a big farking deal?

"Ha ha, more people came to our Decemberists concert than yours!!"

We count ballots, morons. Not people who show up at a rallys.
 
seventypercent [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 05:27:45 PM
If you require crowd size estimates to validate your political beliefs, be they left or right, then congratulations! You're a retard. A fat, kiddy-diddling retard.
 
Diogenes [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 05:30:41 PM
what_now: Why is this such a big farking deal?

"Ha ha, more people came to our Decemberists concert than yours!!"

We count ballots, morons. Not people who show up at a rallys.

I want it to be a low number. Not because I want to diminish the turnout per se, but because I'm frightened that many people are that dumb.
 
jmaster306
2010-09-01 05:34:59 PM
make me some tea: impaler: make me some tea: You can pretty much track the direction that MSM has gone in a nutshell by looking at the demise of the Discovery Channel, TLC and History Channel. They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

You know who else is disappointed in those channels?

Viewers Like You?

:)

Huh, I though you got shot about 30 minutes ago.

/too soon?
 
downstairs [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 05:57:42 PM
I've been in a crowd of 160,000+ and there's no way this crowd was anything near that. They're far to thin and spread apart, compared to a stadium crowd for example.

Here's 400,000 people, mostly packed together- shot from a much higher distance:

images.nitrosell.com

Yeah, I don't think so.
 
mainstreet62 [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 06:06:14 PM
downstairs: I've been in a crowd of 160,000+ and there's no way this crowd was anything near that. They're far to thin and spread apart, compared to a stadium crowd for example.

Here's 400,000 people, mostly packed together- shot from a much higher distance:

What's going on in that picture? Looks like a concert. Who played?

Yeah, I don't think so.
 
mainstreet62 [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 06:06:57 PM
downstairs: I've been in a crowd of 160,000+ and there's no way this crowd was anything near that. They're far to thin and spread apart, compared to a stadium crowd for example.

Here's 400,000 people, mostly packed together- shot from a much higher distance:



Yeah, I don't think so.


Whoops, I hate it when I nest responses like that.

Looks like a concert. Who played?
 
abb3w [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 06:09:50 PM
what_now: We count ballots, morons. Not people who show up at a rallys.

At least until the rule of law breaks down; at which point, it's not referred to as a "rally" but a "muster".
 
patrick767
2010-09-01 06:15:13 PM
what_now
Why is this such a big farking deal?

I'll quote myself from above:

Conservatives are absolutely desperate to believe that their views are held by most Americans.

Why do you think O'Reilly and other Fox personalities so obsessively remind their viewers that Fox News gets good ratings? Conservatives can't stand the idea of being in the minority (which makes me think of a possibly related fear in conservative circles that the day is approaching when caucasians won't be a majority in the US).

Almost immediately after the '08 election, they were claiming that some poor souls had simply been misled by Obama and really most Americans held to conservative views. Then came the "ramming it down our throats" claims. Hell, go back to Nixon's "silent majority" rhetoric.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 06:15:37 PM
These are the same people that want to abolish the census, right?

I thought they didn't care about all this math stuff.
 
downstairs [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 06:19:45 PM
mainstreet62: Whoops, I hate it when I nest responses like that.

Looks like a concert. Who played?

Melanie, Swami Satchidananda. Lame.
 
Quasar [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 06:24:54 PM
mainstreet62: downstairs: I've been in a crowd of 160,000+ and there's no way this crowd was anything near that. They're far to thin and spread apart, compared to a stadium crowd for example.

Here's 400,000 people, mostly packed together- shot from a much higher distance:



Yeah, I don't think so.


Whoops, I hate it when I nest responses like that.

Looks like a concert. Who played?

The Decemberists.
 
Sleeping Monkey [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 06:36:28 PM
How is republican hypocrisy even news anymore?
 
Barakku
2010-09-01 07:51:13 PM
You'd think with a high enough resolution image(s) it would be easy enough to have a computer do the calculation, should be easy enough to detect 'heads'
 
tetheredswimming
2010-09-01 07:52:16 PM
www.27bslash6.com
 
tenpoundsofcheese
2010-09-01 07:53:11 PM
patrick767: Also...
According to one Fox News affiliate, "Organizers of the rally had permits for a crowd of up to 300,000 and expected 100,000." In the course of the rally, however, Beck estimated that there were 300,000 to 500,000 people present, and that estimate of has been widely accepted by the mainstream media, with NBC News and the New York Times both going with 300,000 and the Drudge Report and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough reporting 500,000.

wtf kind of news organizations go with the event leader's own estimate for how many people came to his rally instead of using an objective source? Morons.

check the quotes during the rally (when this was reported). I don't believe that Beck provided any estimates himself. IIRC, he claimed that other news agencies were reporting 300k, not that he was making any claim.
 
Poldana
2010-09-01 07:55:19 PM
Diogenes: I warned you guys before -- you have to be careful with Teabaggers. That breed will turn on you.

/spay and neuter your teabaggers

And this is why I will never regret the decision to make you my first favorite.
 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 07:57:22 PM
abb3w: what_now: We count ballots, morons. Not people who show up at a rallys.

At least until the rule of law breaks down; at which point, it's not referred to as a "rally" but a "muster".

Oh yes, the "second amendment solutions" we hear so much about for when Teahadists don't get their way.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 07:57:49 PM
jmaster306: make me some tea: impaler: make me some tea: You can pretty much track the direction that MSM has gone in a nutshell by looking at the demise of the Discovery Channel, TLC and History Channel. They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

You know who else is disappointed in those channels?

Viewers Like You?

:)

Huh, I though you got shot about 30 minutes ago.

/too soon?

Not sure if that'shiat the media at large yet. Although it was pretty funny, ackshually.
 
PresentCompanyExcluded
2010-09-01 07:58:15 PM
 
tommyl66
2010-09-01 07:58:34 PM
Barakku: You'd think with a high enough resolution image(s) it would be easy enough to have a computer do the calculation, should be easy enough to detect 'heads'

Nah, the computers have problems detecting when the head is obstructed by the lower intestine...
 
don't understand
2010-09-01 08:00:22 PM
 
pope183
2010-09-01 08:00:25 PM
Here is the real problem



yah get up close overhead with a copter and damned if it wasn't just a bunch of fat assed retards in lazyboys next to their fat assed retard wives and there fat assed (mentaly challenged) kids taken up 30 40 square feet for each family, half of em brought their dogs if you could call them that just a big roll of fat with 4 legs and a tail, no wait that was the kids (my apologies to peta) an each one of em had a cooler full of high fructose cornsyrup to suck on too... the tea baggers themselves are so farking fat that from a distance it just looks like more people.
 
Knucklepopper
2010-09-01 08:02:06 PM
make me some tea: You can pretty much track the direction that MSM has gone in a nutshell by looking at the demise of the Discovery Channel, TLC and History Channel. They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?

You shut your farking TV off and read a book.
 
StephaniePratt
2010-09-01 08:04:14 PM
 
StephaniePratt
2010-09-01 08:05:13 PM
StephaniePratt: I was just made to see Glenn Beck didn't take Obama's Civil Rights and give them to us. (new window)

//was promised such

Opps I meant mad
 
Churchy LaFemme
2010-09-01 08:06:13 PM
patrick767: Conservatives Republicans are absolutely desperate to believe that their views are held by most Americans.

FTFY
 
pope183
2010-09-01 08:07:23 PM
good evidence that the crowd was much larger than expected
- this view from the side is proof beck was right
- suck it libtards

Link (new window)
 
InteriorDesignNinja
2010-09-01 08:08:55 PM
pope183: good evidence that the crowd was much larger than expected
- this view from the side is proof beck was right
- suck it libtards

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/huge-fat-woman-on-small- c hair.jpg (new window)

Pro-tip: the url you link to shouldn't give you away.
 
UsikFark
2010-09-01 08:09:12 PM
StephaniePratt: //was promised such

from the link:

I don't know a single person who voted for Obama but somehow he got elected! It's like black people's votes counted five-thirds as much as white votes. This kind of blatant racism has to stop.

What the hell?
 
soy_bomb
2010-09-01 08:09:17 PM
i54.tinypic.com
 
DownDaRiver [TotalFark]
2010-09-01 08:10:38 PM
impaler
2010-09-01 05:04:39 PM

make me some tea: You can pretty much track the direction that MSM has gone in a nutshell by looking at the demise of the Discovery Channel, TLC and History Channel. They started out with really good, intelligent content and have devolved into little more than reality shows and documentaries with light educational content and lots of crappy CGI, because they found they could do less work and get more viewers that way. I guess that's business, though, what can you do?


+You know who else is disappointed in those channels?+

***
Nice! Excellent thread reference.
+1
 
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