The English Major needs to get a life, for real.

Air, Portishead, Dinosaur Jr, Fugazi, ODB . . . I'll allow it.

Pitchfork continues their list of top 200 songs of the 90s, and here we have 51-100, which includes the likes of Lauryn Hill, Erykah Badu, and Public Enemy. Rap sucks, guysSubby hates Black people.

Hip Hop, Rap, and R&B are, like every other genre of music, full of fantastic artist and stellar albums. As well as much crap.

/did I feed the obvious troll?
//yep I did. But somebody had to, otherwise how would we get another crappy headline about this list tomorrow.

Jackson Herring: The English Major needs to get a life, for real.

jerkobson: Hip Hop, Rap, and R&B are, like every other genre of music, full of fantastic artist and stellar albums. As well as much crap.

The English Patient is just trolling for attention with these kind of headlines.

Jackson Herring: The English Major needs to get a life, for real.

I'm just trying to understand why his tired-ass bullshiat gets greenlit. They usually don't get that many clicks, and most of the comments are people calling him a tard and complaining about what a pile of shiat the music tab has become. He can't be making Drew any money at all. So WHY???

El Freak: Jackson Herring: The English Major needs to get a life, for real.

I'm just trying to understand why his tired-ass bullshiat gets greenlit. They usually don't get that many clicks, and most of the comments are people calling him a tard and complaining about what a pile of shiat the music tab has become. He can't be making Drew any money at all. So WHY???

The Beatles troll a few threads down, which is also his, is humming along nicely.

what's the point of such a list?

please.

"Rap sucks"


them colored people sure make a lot of noise, eh pa?


/rolls eyes

I was just happy to see Refused on the first link. Haven't looked since then but I better see "Range Life," "Gold Soundz," "Stereo," and "Summer Babe" by Pavement on there.

eddievercetti: Jackson Herring: The English Major needs to get a life, for real.

No surprises here.

mrEdude: what's the point of such a list?

please.

It does give one a reason to listen to bands you might not have in the past. I have missed out on a lot of good music in my life, evidently, and I thought I had a clue about good music.

Also gotta give props for including The Lemonheads. I bought "It's a Shame About Ray" on my 13th birthday and still own it and listen to it. That and "You'd Prefer an Astronaut" by Hum are my two favorite albums of the '90s.

Songs I've heard of off the top of my head
200-151: 13/50
150-101: 13/50
100-51: 10/50

This list has been good so far. I wish some (or all) of these songs could make it into the playlist of the "mix" station I have to listen to at work all day.

factoryconnection: It does give one a reason to listen to bands you might not have in the past. I have missed out on a lot of good music in my life, evidently, and I thought I had a clue about good music.

Yeah I like to use lists like this to find things that I missed. I also don't give any credence to order until it hits #20 or so. There is no way I will ever believe that "Pony" by Ginuwine is better than the worst tracks done by Matthew Sweet, Refused or 9,000 other bands from the '90s.

so far the list is pretty good and diverse, though rather odd in how it's ranked. I'm rather surprised to see Spacehog listed so high. They weren't bad, or at least the song wasn't, but they were rather obvious cash-ins on the Alternative movement.

#77 Archers of Loaf "Web in Front." Still one of the best bands I have ever seen live and an absolute staple in my CD player in high school. When I DJ'ed at the local college radio station I played them non-stop.

FeedTheCollapse: so far the list is pretty good and diverse, though rather odd in how it's ranked. I'm rather surprised to see Spacehog listed so high. They weren't bad, or at least the song wasn't, but they were rather obvious cash-ins on the Alternative movement.

What a terrible way to judge songs

LewDux: FeedTheCollapse: so far the list is pretty good and diverse, though rather odd in how it's ranked. I'm rather surprised to see Spacehog listed so high. They weren't bad, or at least the song wasn't, but they were rather obvious cash-ins on the Alternative movement.

What a terrible way to judge songs

just saying. Especially since it's otherwise ranked fairly high.

Damn I am a commenting machine today but seeing The Dismemberment Plan at #64 brightened my day. I watched a Duke/Maryland game with them at a bar in Milwaukee. Pure awesome guys.

FeedTheCollapse: so far the list is pretty good and diverse, though rather odd in how it's ranked. I'm rather surprised to see Spacehog listed so high. They weren't bad, or at least the song wasn't, but they were rather obvious cash-ins on the Alternative movement.

"Resident Alien" was a good, quirky album, and "In The Meantime" was a terrific single. A grungy song that actually required the bass player to study his part? And the lead singer was the bass player, no less. I love playing this one on CD or live.

Also: thanks for pointing this out, as I otherwise would have missed the 150-100 list. Great tracks on that one!

Rev.K: I'm thinking of three bands that goddamn well better appear in the top 50, or this list is a complete failure.

And everyone who contributed to this list should have their cock and/or tits cut off if Tumbthumping by Chumbawumba appears on it.

Still not a single Pavement song (at least that I saw). And I guarantee you when they do one, it is going to be "Cut Your Hair."

Eh, I've got no complaints as those are all pretty good songs. I'll allow "Poison" because it's such a catchy relic. It's weird to see Stereolab get in there for "French Disko", but I haven't seen any of their big tracks from Emperor Tomato on the list. I also would have picked Stone Roses "Fool's Gold" or "Waterfall" over "I Want to be Adored".

And damn right you include Repeater and ODB's "Got Your Money."

williamzabka: Rev.K: I'm thinking of three bands that goddamn well better appear in the top 50, or this list is a complete failure.

And everyone who contributed to this list should have their cock and/or tits cut off if Tumbthumping by Chumbawumba appears on it.

Still not a single Pavement song (at least that I saw). And I guarantee you when they do one, it is going to be "Cut Your Hair."

This is Pitchfork. It'll be something off of Slanted and Enchanted. I bet they'll even pick "Gold Sounds" before "Cut Your Hair."

Rapmaster2000: williamzabka: Rev.K: I'm thinking of three bands that goddamn well better appear in the top 50, or this list is a complete failure.

And everyone who contributed to this list should have their cock and/or tits cut off if Tumbthumping by Chumbawumba appears on it.

Still not a single Pavement song (at least that I saw). And I guarantee you when they do one, it is going to be "Cut Your Hair."

This is Pitchfork. It'll be something off of Slanted and Enchanted. I bet they'll even pick "Gold Sounds" before "Cut Your Hair."

I actually would be fine with that. As much as I like "Cut Your Hair," "Gold Soundz" is a better song. My opinion probably shouldn't count on this though, I probably listen to Pavement more than any other band.

I can almost forgive every other song on the list for including the KLF, especially a track off Chill Out.

Subby sounds fat, white, and balding.

/fo reals

dholway: Rapmaster2000: I also would have picked Stone Roses "Fool's Gold" or "Waterfall" over "I Want to be Adored".

Having come out in the spring of 1989, it shouldn't be on there at all. It's a great song and all, but just because the record company wanted to milk their cash cows a bit for a bit more in 1991 by releasing it as a single doesn't make it a 90s release anymore than putting a single of "Sugar Spun Sister" next week would make it a song of 2010.

That's right, it was 1989... it was also 20 years ago.

Rev.K: 82. Blackstreet [ft. Dr. Dre]
"No Diggity"
[Interscope; 1996]

There are not words to describe how much I hate this f*cking song.

All I remember about that song is the Lil' Penny Nike cross-promotion in the video.

"Songs"?

Get the fuggaoudahea.

I was wondering when they'd get to Lauryn Hill/The Fugees. "Doo Wop" is a solid choice.

Oh, and English Major? EABOD. If you can't appreciate the genius performer that is/was Lauryn Hill. . . I can't finish that sentence. Ain't no way to deny Mz. Hill:

I can do what you do, easy, believe me
Frontin' nubianhs give me heebie-jeebies
So while you're imatating Al Capone
I'll be Nina Simone
And defecating on your microphone.

Ready or not. . .

/say what you will about her politicking, but that voice. . .
//off to make a playlist

turbidum: So while you're imatating imitating Al Capone

FTFM

Dafatone: Stop letting three words at the end of the headline threadjack.

For real. I don't know why people get so bent about it. Draws your attention to something, you click, you discuss. No problem.

So, Lauren Hill. That record is fantastic. Not a big fan of the genre, but it dug into me big time. It came up here the other day, too, and I had to put it on.

Rapmaster2000: I also would have picked Stone Roses "Fool's Gold" or "Waterfall" over "I Want to be Adored".

I like both of those songs more than Adored, but I can kind of understand why they went with Adored over the others. It opens the landmark album and every Roses show, and has that epic, building kind of "here we are, the next big thing" quality about it that helped define the Roses and led directly into Britpop.

Subby is clearly very young, and has never heard Public Enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back."
/not a contemporary rap fan by any means
//but this is truly a classic album

LeroyBourne: Subby is clearly very young, and has never heard Public Enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back."

It's not a 1990s album, but yes, it's classic in every way possible. I still spin it and Fear of a Black Planet on a regular basis. The latter suffers from just a touch of filler, but they're damn near a perfect pair.

Wow, I can't believe I'm actually going to tell Smitty to EABOD.

shoegaze99: LeroyBourne: Subby is clearly very young, and has never heard Public Enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back."

It's not a 1990s album, but yes, it's classic in every way possible. I still spin it and Fear of a Black Planet on a regular basis. The latter suffers from just a touch of filler, but they're damn near a perfect pair.

I just hate how people lump all rap together, or even Hip Hop. Today and all the past is no where near the same. Not even the same ballpark.

LeroyBourne: I just hate how people lump all rap together, or even Hip Hop.

People do it with all genres. Country gets his with the same thing, jazz, pop music, whatever. I wouldn't worry about it. No one who is willing to lump an entire genre together is going to be musically open-minded enough to care about distinctions, anyway.

The English Major: I'm assuming we'll have Nirvana in the top ten. But will the Beastie Boys make it?

I hope not.

I liked the Beastie Boys, I really did, but they lost me in the late 1990s and have never been able to get me back. I don't know what changed. Not even nostalgia can get me to spin those records. For reasons I can't fully explain, their status as elder statesmen kind of irks me. It's irrational, but there it is.

(transported over from first thread)

100. Galaxie 500 "Fourth of July" [1990]
99. Ghost Town DJs "My Boo" [1995]
98. Elastica "Stutter" [1995]
97. Luniz "I Got 5 on It" [1995]
96. Primal Scream "Higher Than the Sun" [1991]
95. Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)" [1998]
94. Stereolab "French Disko" [1993]
93. Dinosaur Jr. "Start Choppin'"
92. Hole "Violet" [1994]
91. Jeff Buckley "Last Goodbye" [1995]
90. Ol' Dirty Bastard [ft. Kelis] "Got Your Money" [1999]
89. Smog "Teenage Spaceship" [1999]
88. Souls of Mischief "93 'Til Infinity" [1993]
87. Liz Phair "F**k and Run" [1993]
86. Bell Biv DeVoe "Poison" [1990]
85. AIR [French Band] "All I Need" [1998]
84. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony "Tha Crossroads" [1996]
83. Sleater-Kinney "Dig Me Out" [1997]
82. Blackstreet [ft. Dr. Dre] "No Diggity" [1996]
81. Superchunk "Slack Motherf**ker" [1990]
80. The KLF "Wichita Lineman Was a Song I Once Heard" [1990]
79. George Michael "Freedom! 90" [1990]
78. Erykah Badu "On & On" [1996]
77. Archers of Loaf "Web in Front" [1993]
76. D'Angelo "Brown Sugar" [1995]
75. Jim O'Rourke "Halfway to a Threeway" [1999]
74. Wilco "Via Chicago" [1999]
73. Disco Inferno "Love Stepping Out" [1992]
72. R.E.M. "Nightswimming" [1993]
71. Arthur Russell "This Is How We Walk on the Moon" [1994]
70. Boards of Canada "Roygbiv"
69. Basement Jaxx "Red Alert" [1999]
68. Saint Etienne "Avenue" [1992]
67. Bikini Kill "Rebel Girl" [1992]
66. The Cardigans "Lovefool" [1997]
65. Mary J. Blige "Real Love"
64. The Dismemberment Plan "The City" [1999]
63. Modest Mouse "Trailer Trash" [1997]
62. Jay-Z "Dead Presidents II" [1996]
61. Pixies "Alec Eiffel" [1991]
60. Sonic Youth "100%" [1992]
59. Deee-Lite "Groove Is in the Heart" [1990]
58. Fugazi "Repeater" [1990]
57. The Beta Band "Dry the Rain" [1997]
56. Godspeed You Black Emperor! "Moya" [1999]
55. Ghostface Killah "Daytona 500" [1996]
54. Portishead "Glory Box" [1994]
53. De La Soul "A Rollerskating Jam Named 'Saturdays'" [1995]
52. The Stone Roses "I Wanna Be Adored" [1991]
51. Public Enemy "Brothers Gonna Work It Out" [1990]

Well, I couldn't be more off with my prognostications [at least with respect towards chart placement]. Damn near every song and/or artist that I thought would be in the top 50 has either been used already on the chart proper or as one of the will-be-400-when-all-is-said-and-done "honorable mentions".
If they keep with the use-one-track-per-artist trend going on in the list proper, the only thing I can guess now is that something off of O.K. Computer and Smells Like Teen Spirit will be in the top 10.

The English Major: was just trying to guess what decisions Pitchfork had in store for us.

Knowing Pitchfork, I'd wager there is one token hit song in the top 10, maybe 2, and the rest will be attempts at showing how edgy and ahead of the curve they are.

Yes, even on a list about songs 10-20 years old.

If we all chip in and buy The English Major a ton of food will he finally eat away all his sadness to the point of death and leave us in peace? I'd kick in at least $20 if it contributed to his death.