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(Some Guy)		Man involved in land dispute sues group of attorneys for $38,000,000,000,000,000 because "THEY ARE IN DEFAULT AND THEY KNOW IT" (heraldextra.com)		85
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abb3w		2010-08-24 12:36:50 AM

Yet another nutjob who thinks of Legalese as a magic language granting those who speak the proper charms and incantations the power to summon and to command, to loose and to bind. The Practice Of Law Does Not Work That Way.

Or in this case, to magically wish for a bazillion dollars!!!11!eleventy!

AtlanticCoast63		2010-08-24 01:26:19 AM

...This guy is an idiot AND HE KNOWS IT.

pgh9fan		2010-08-24 01:27:22 AM

I hope he wins. I want to see what happens to the economy when he starts spending his $38 quadrillion.

AntiNorm		2010-08-24 01:27:55 AM

This guy needs to have a talk with Judge Judy (small claims limits aside). She would tear him nine or ten new assholes.

Last week, she said "Listen, STUPID..." to someone. Hearing what she says to this guy would be entertaining.

anfrind		2010-08-24 01:31:44 AM

North Korea last seen hiding in the corner and taking notes.

Nakito		2010-08-24 01:31:52 AM

RES IPSA CAPSLOCQUITUR.

NecroBob		2010-08-24 01:32:06 AM

Is anyone else tired of these appeals to OUR CONSTITUTION as an attempt to weasel out of things?

AntiNorm		2010-08-24 01:33:37 AM

FTFA:

In his initial complaint, Anderson said silence on the matter by the defendants would constitute a binding contract.

What kind of dream world are you living in if you think that's enforceable?

He said fighting the case in court could cost his clients more than $100,000.

This is probably why he's doing it. He knows he isn't going to get 38 quadrillion dollars from them.

lo quilty		2010-08-24 01:34:37 AM

I always thought punitive penalties ought to go to the government. Giving it to the victims just encourages this kind of shakedown behavior.

UsikFark		2010-08-24 01:39:26 AM

NecroBob: Is anyone else tired of these appeals to OUR CONSTITUTION as an attempt to weasel out of things?

Is that how much the government is asking for it these days? Good luck.

hechz		2010-08-24 01:40:43 AM

"I don't know what that calculates to if I can't buy the entire world," he said.

/best line of the article

Barakku		2010-08-24 01:42:27 AM

WOOHOO! The two sweetest words in the english language!
DE! FAULT!
DE! FAULT!
DE! FAULT!

bluorangefyre		2010-08-24 01:43:45 AM

What's he want that much for, so he can build a flux capacitor?

Korovyov		2010-08-24 01:46:54 AM

It would be far, far cheaper to simply have him killed.

Alternatively:
http://www.banknotes.com/zw90.htm

Squirm		2010-08-24 01:48:39 AM

Really? That's a lot of money.

sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

Korovyov		2010-08-24 01:55:51 AM

Yow. Going by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_dollar, 38 quadrillion Zimbabwean dollars would have been worth approximately US$126.66 in Feb 2009 (real terms, not official exchange rates).

Kolstoe		2010-08-24 01:57:42 AM

wow thats like:
491,396,000,000,000,000 pesos
1,167,100,000,000,000,000 rubles
3,227,970,000,000,000,000 yen

I wonder what it'll be worth in Batshiatcrazy Land.

red5ish		2010-08-24 01:59:01 AM

He wants to make this expensive enough so that they new owners will just pay him what the old owners stiffed him for.

/oh noes ta grammar polices

AntiNorm		2010-08-24 01:59:43 AM

Korovyov: Yow. Going by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_dollar, 38 quadrillion Zimbabwean dollars would have been worth approximately US$126.66 in Feb 2009 (real terms, not official exchange rates).

Given the million-plus percent figures I've heard for Zimbabwe's inflation, that might be worth a couple of cents now. They may have changed their currency since then (hopefully they did).

jutm543		2010-08-24 02:06:12 AM

Is that... 38 quadrillion? Are there even 38 quadrillion dollars worth of currency in circulation? Or is the world going to have to issue this guy a big IOU?

dobro		2010-08-24 02:07:52 AM

That's, like, more than a brazilian if I'm not mistaken.

padraig		2010-08-24 02:13:12 AM

Kolstoe: wow thats like:
491,396,000,000,000,000 pesos
1,167,100,000,000,000,000 rubles
3,227,970,000,000,000,000 yen

I wonder what it'll be worth in Batshiatcrazy Land.

About two pounds of pot in cop street value.

ecmoRandomNumbers		2010-08-24 02:13:48 AM

AntiNorm: This guy needs to have a talk with Judge Judy (small claims limits aside). She would tear him nine or ten new assholes.

Last week, she said "Listen, STUPID..." to someone. Hearing what she says to this guy would be entertaining.

I LOVE Judge Judy.

I'm sure they'll settle for 1 or 2 gazillion.

unalivezombie		2010-08-24 02:15:31 AM

trixter_nl		2010-08-24 02:18:40 AM

pgh9fan: I hope he wins. I want to see what happens to the economy when he starts spending his $38 quadrillion.

when the debtor cant pay they will get a government bailout

Korovyov		2010-08-24 02:23:00 AM

jutm543: Is that... 38 quadrillion? Are there even 38 quadrillion dollars worth of currency in circulation? Or is the world going to have to issue this guy a big IOU?

This article has some slightly dated numbers. The number of US dollars in circulation is way under a quadrillion.

Sim Tree		2010-08-24 02:23:34 AM

AntiNorm: Korovyov: Yow. Going by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_dollar, 38 quadrillion Zimbabwean dollars would have been worth approximately US$126.66 in Feb 2009 (real terms, not official exchange rates).

Given the million-plus percent figures I've heard for Zimbabwe's inflation, that might be worth a couple of cents now. They may have changed their currency since then (hopefully they did).

Ah, Zimbabwe: After the exchange hit 100 trillion to one, computers and ATMs could no longer calculate the transactions. The population had long since degraded into using barter and other countries' currencies by that point anyway (which was technically illegal, but police were willing to 'look the other way'), so Mugabe just issued a proclamation making it official; Zimbabwe no longer has a currency, in practice; they can and do use dollars and Euros, now.

Of course the military still gets paid in Zim dollars, which no one will take. I don't know how/if they ever resolved that.

You can get their $100trillion bills on ebay, if you care. So their money is still worth something as a novelty item.

Perducci		2010-08-24 02:24:07 AM

I wonder if his simultaneous 4-day TIME CUBE is functioning properly.

GentlemanJ		2010-08-24 02:30:07 AM

Get used to seeing the word "quadrillion." It's only a thousand trillion...
/Hyperinflation thread starts here!

joonyer		2010-08-24 02:34:41 AM

...as soon as I saw him cite the Constitution, I knew he was done fer.

Lehk		2010-08-24 02:37:06 AM

AntiNorm: This is probably why he's doing it. He knows he isn't going to get 38 quadrillion dollars from them.

a legal mutual defense pact could greatly reduce nuisance lawsuits, if many large and small organizations all agreed to fight nuisance lawsuits to the end rather than paying to make them go away, predatory lolyers would stop taking spurious cases.

LabGrrl		2010-08-24 02:40:52 AM

I'm not so sure what he's arguing about. Most of Las Vegas is in de fault.
Deres de Frenchman Mountain Fault, and all de other faults. (new window)

Dat's why deres a whole lotta shakin goin on.

mithras_angel		2010-08-24 02:46:01 AM

AntiNorm
FTFA:

In his initial complaint, Anderson said silence on the matter by the defendants would constitute a binding contract.

What kind of dream world are you living in if you think that's enforceable?

The same world where a judge can sue for $95 million for a pair of pants.

Yaxe		2010-08-24 02:47:48 AM

Hopefully, inflation will be able to repay the debt by 30320.

Githerax		2010-08-24 02:54:22 AM

Yaxe: Hopefully, inflation will be able to repay the debt by ~~30320~~ 2015.

FTFY

Manfred J. Hattan		2010-08-24 02:55:53 AM

I don't know why he's bothering -- the court has a fringed flag in it so it's judgments are invalid.

khyberkitsune		2010-08-24 02:56:10 AM

"I don't know what that calculates to if I can't buy the entire world,"

It means your ass pays up. I've dealt with supposedly dishonest assholes like this person, and they almost UNIVERSALLY get found guilty.

The fines and lawsuit monetary damages will not stand, that is an absolute fact.

But the other party can win and stands a large legal chance due to oral contract findings in Utah. They hold your ass to your word.

NYZooMan		2010-08-24 02:58:33 AM

I would have gone for twice that.

Silly_Sot		2010-08-24 02:59:36 AM

This reminds me of a scam that some "patriot" groups tried a few years ago. They claimed that you could convert your "deed" for "real estate" into a "patent" for "land", that would render it immune from all property taxes (and, I think, mortgages on it). Their method was for you to send them a pile of papers. One of them was the mystical "land patent", but the important one was a quit-claim. You were to fill out the quit-claim but leave the recipient blank. The quit-claim was to be on top of the stack, they stressed that over and over. Then, you were to send the stack to them.

I wonder how many dimwits fell for it.

Old Huntstein		2010-08-24 03:03:08 AM

Silly_Sot: This reminds me of a scam that some "patriot" groups tried a few years ago. They claimed that you could convert your "deed" for "real estate" into a "patent" for "land", that would render it immune from all property taxes (and, I think, mortgages on it). Their method was for you to send them a pile of papers. One of them was the mystical "land patent", but the important one was a quit-claim. You were to fill out the quit-claim but leave the recipient blank. The quit-claim was to be on top of the stack, they stressed that over and over. Then, you were to send the stack to them.

I wonder how many dimwits fell for it.

That was a scam? Shiat!

anfrind		2010-08-24 03:04:38 AM

Sim Tree: Ah, Zimbabwe: After the exchange hit 100 trillion to one, computers and ATMs could no longer calculate the transactions. The population had long since degraded into using barter and other countries' currencies by that point anyway (which was technically illegal, but police were willing to 'look the other way'), so Mugabe just issued a proclamation making it official; Zimbabwe no longer has a currency, in practice; they can and do use dollars and Euros, now.

I find myself wondering what it was about the exchange rate hitting 100 trillion that caused the computers to stop working. Were they storing currency values as 48-bit integers in units of $0.01? That's the only thing I can think of, and I don't think I've ever seen a computer use that.

/would have expected the failure to happen at 20 million, 40 million, or 9.2x10¹⁶

Captain Steroid		2010-08-24 03:08:46 AM

Okay, hypothetically, if this guy DID win... he's actually asking for more money than exists on the planet! I know it's funny to think, "LOL what if this guy wins?", but what kind of ramifications would their be for a U.S. Judge to say, "I find in favor of the plaintiff for the full amount of $38,000,000,000,000,000."?

Does the judge just bequeath everything these guys own to this Anderson guy and have them work off the rest? Do they have to whore out their wives and their children as restitution? Does he officially become God-King of Nevada? Or, of Earth?! DEAR GOD, I MUST KNOW!!!

jingks		2010-08-24 03:10:12 AM

Captain Steroid: Does the judge just bequeath everything these guys own to this Anderson guy and have them work off the rest? Do they have to whore out their wives and their children as restitution? Does he officially become God-King of Nevada? Or, of Earth?! DEAR GOD, I MUST KNOW!!!

They give him everything they have, declare bankruptcy, and that's the end of it... isn't it?

bud plug		2010-08-24 03:18:24 AM

FTA: John Theodore Anderson, also known as John-Theodore:Anderson in his filings

Bennie Crabtree		2010-08-24 03:26:03 AM

FTA: attorneys Douglas Shumway, Benjamin Schramm and Michael Van fraudulently

Alright, these guys sound shady. The first one is from Melmac, the second one sounds like a scam to get $100 bills, and the last one is named Michael Van Fraudulently, which is the worst damned lawyer name ever.

sagegrey		2010-08-24 03:41:14 AM

bud plug: FTA: John Theodore Anderson, also known as John-Theodore:Anderson in his filings

John-Theodore:Anderson
as
bat-shiat:crazy

/i think i got that right... it's early.

MadTheologian		2010-08-24 03:49:37 AM

sagegrey: bud plug: FTA: John Theodore Anderson, also known as John-Theodore:Anderson in his filings

John-Theodore:Anderson
as
bat-shiat:crazy

/i think i got that right... it's early.

That was the first thing I thought of! (new window)

/LAUGHTER OL

haddie		2010-08-24 04:04:26 AM

sagegrey		2010-08-24 04:10:38 AM

MadTheologian: sagegrey: bud plug: FTA: John Theodore Anderson, also known as John-Theodore:Anderson in his filings

John-Theodore:Anderson
as
bat-shiat:crazy

/i think i got that right... it's early.

That was the first thing I thought of! (new window)

/LAUGHTER OL

That article reads like a bottle of Dr. Bronners Magic Soap (pops to .pdf, but worth it).

/soap is pretty good tho

zulius		2010-08-24 04:19:50 AM

Kolstoe: wow thats like:
491,396,000,000,000,000 pesos
1,167,100,000,000,000,000 rubles
3,227,970,000,000,000,000 yen

I wonder what it'll be worth in Batshiatcrazy Land.

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