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(Gawker)   Hallucinogenic plants reportedly popping up all over hipster-filled Brooklyn. It's a really obscure plant, though, you probably haven't heard of it   (gawker.com) divider line 99
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2010-08-21 08:47:25 PM  
That stuff will make you trip so hard you'll see God.
 
2010-08-21 09:08:20 PM  
"Red as a beet, dry as a bone, blind as a bat, mad as a hatter"

I guess it's that time of year when all the newspapers start posting articles about idiots(read: teenagers) that start turning up in the ER because they couldn't believe a "totally natural and legal" drug might actually do them lots of harm. Jimson weed hasn't been criminalized yet, because most people aren't stupid enough to try it a second time and, therefore, there isn't much risk of addiction.

One of my favorite news stories was from a few years ago. A bunch of teens ended up the the hospital and one of the girls said she couldn't believe that it almost killed her because "it was all natural and didn't have any chemicals in it".

Know your drugs before you do them, people.
 
2010-08-21 09:08:43 PM  
And also might actually (really) kill you so don't be a retard.


All Datura plants contain tropane alkaloids such as scopolamine, hyoscyamine, and atropine, primarily in their seeds and flowers. Because of the presence of these substances, Datura has been used for centuries in some cultures as a poison and hallucinogen.[2][3] There can be a 5:1 toxin variation across plants, and a given plant's toxicity depends on its age, where it is growing, and the local weather conditions. This variation makes Datura exceptionally hazardous as a drug. In traditional cultures, a great deal of experience with, and detailed knowledge of, Datura was critical in order to minimize harm.[2] Many tragic incidents result from modern recreational users ingesting Datura. For example, in the 1990s and 2000s, the United States media contained stories of adolescents and young adults dying or becoming seriously ill from intentionally ingesting Datura.[4][5] There are also several reports in the medical literature of deaths from Datura stramonium and Datura ferox intoxication.[6][7][8] Children are especially vulnerable to atropine poisoning, and their prognosis is likely to be fatal.[9][10] In some parts of Europe and India, Datura has been a popular poison for suicide and murder. From 1950-1965, the State Chemical Laboratories in Agra, India investigated 2,778 deaths that were caused by ingesting Datura.[2]

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported accidental poisoning resulting in hospitalization for a family of six who inadvertently ingested Datura used as an ingredient in stew.[11]

In some places it is prohibited to buy, sell or cultivate Datura plants.[2]
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It's not like it's hard to find a drug dealer in New York.
 
2010-08-21 09:12:29 PM  
You really do not want to mess with this stuff. You'll probably end in the hospital, in an institution, or jail..and probably will not remember how you got there.

Sure, you might trip your balls off, but it's not worth it. I'm all for expanding your consciousness but very few people have a good trip with datura stramonium. And when if it goes bad, it can go VERY bad.
 
2010-08-21 09:37:33 PM  
Screw you guys. I'ma trip my balls off.
 
2010-08-21 10:08:14 PM  
PacManDreaming: One of my favorite news stories was from a few years ago. A bunch of teens ended up the the hospital and one of the girls said she couldn't believe that it almost killed her because "it was all natural and didn't have any chemicals in it".

I remember that!

I also distinctly remember a quote from that Fark thread:

"Drink up, Socrates. It's all-natural."
 
2010-08-21 10:17:44 PM  
Jimson has arsenic in it. You can poison yourself if you don't know how to prep it. It grows wild in the Mojave Desert, amazingly.

You didn't hear it from me, but I remember being told that the Native Americans used to trip out on it by boiling the leaves in water and animal fat. You pour off the water, discard the leaves and water, and chew the fat. The arsenic is water soluble and the lysergic acid leaches into the fat.

I've never tried it but that's what I've heard anyway.
 
2010-08-21 10:44:40 PM  
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2010-08-21 10:50:37 PM  
Adjective Bird Whiskey: Screw you guys. I'ma trip my balls off.

You're better off smoking salvia. And that's saying something.
 
2010-08-21 10:51:56 PM  
shivashakti: You really do not want to mess with this stuff.
shivashakti: You really do not want to mess with this stuff.
shivashakti: You really do not want to mess with this stuff.

Bears repeating.
 
2010-08-21 11:51:45 PM  
ohhhh mama stay away from jimsonweed. mercy for days you will be in your own world which can and will go bad at some point.
 
2010-08-21 11:53:58 PM  
Like I really needed another reason to hate hipsters.
 
2010-08-21 11:54:08 PM  
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Stupid frog.
 
2010-08-21 11:54:12 PM  
Speaking of hallucinogenics, time to head on out to the club! Talk to you guys later! ;-D
 
2010-08-21 11:56:28 PM  
Lily of the valley?
 
2010-08-21 11:59:40 PM  
Once, I took so many hallucinogenics that everyone started calling me Party Boy and I got nine p______s that night. I think that's called checkmate!

Am I doing it right?
 
2010-08-21 11:59:50 PM  
Ah, the high for people who truly hate themselves. Knew about it, put it in file with Nutmeg and autoerotic asphyxiation of things I'd never let myself get so low as to do.
 
2010-08-21 11:59:52 PM  
"Hipster!"

*chug*
 
2010-08-22 12:01:00 AM  
This weed grows everywhere and it is not a good trip
 
2010-08-22 12:01:24 AM  
It has hyoscyamine and scopolamine in it. Used as prescription drugs, not really hallucinogens. For irritable bowel syndrome and motion sickness. You will get dilated pupils and sweat a bit if you take a ton of it though. This is bull shiat.
 
2010-08-22 12:01:48 AM  
t0ksik: Once, I took so many hallucinogenics that everyone started calling me Party Boy and I got nine p______s that night. I think that's called checkmate!

Am I doing it right?


If by "______" you mean "enise" then probably.
 
2010-08-22 12:02:48 AM  
t0ksik: Once, I took so many hallucinogenics that everyone started calling me Party Boy and I got nine p______s that night. I think that's called checkmate!

Am I doing it right?


FTW!
 
2010-08-22 12:05:14 AM  
furiousxgeorge: It's not like it's hard to find a drug dealer in New York.

Or much else

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2010-08-22 12:05:29 AM  
If you're living in Brooklyn and that's the best drug you can get your hands on, you're doing it wrong.
 
2010-08-22 12:08:19 AM  
I'll stick to gold Krylon thanks.
 
2010-08-22 12:11:04 AM  
Ahhh locoweed, 4/5 exorcists prefer it for their exorcisms....just don't ask about what happened to the 5th exorcist.
 
2010-08-22 12:13:21 AM  
yeah...i know this stuff is everywhere in MD

I've heard of enough people frying their brains to feel too tempted though.
 
2010-08-22 12:14:05 AM  
JeanLucPicard: It has hyoscyamine and scopolamine in it. Used as prescription drugs, not really hallucinogens. For irritable bowel syndrome and motion sickness. You will get dilated pupils and sweat a bit if you take a ton of it though. This is bull shiat.

As someone who's taken a small dose, and witnessed others who were under the influence of it, I can attest to the horror stories. There is NOTHING pleasant about it.
 
2010-08-22 12:15:07 AM  
I don't know much about growing drugs, but this gives me a fun idea...what about getting a bunch of marijuana seeds and just throwing them around all over the city.
 
2010-08-22 12:17:32 AM  
PacManDreaming: A bunch of teens ended up the the hospital and one of the girls said she couldn't believe that it almost killed her because "it was all natural and didn't have any chemicals in it".

Yeah, gotta love the "it's natural so it's SAFE" people. Then I point out that poison ivy is 100% natural.
 
2010-08-22 12:20:54 AM  
justoneznot: PacManDreaming: A bunch of teens ended up the the hospital and one of the girls said she couldn't believe that it almost killed her because "it was all natural and didn't have any chemicals in it".

Yeah, gotta love the "it's natural so it's SAFE" people. Then I point out that poison ivy is 100% natural.


My mom's metal concert buddy thought this way. He was a biochemist of some sort who worked for Pfizer. We gave him unending shiat about it.

/yeah, csb
 
2010-08-22 12:24:06 AM  
Tried it once, worst idea ever.

/Used to have a 10 ft Tree Datura in the backyard w/ 80 or so blooms
//They were also planted all around my community college
///Coolest looking flower ever
 
Ral
2010-08-22 12:33:27 AM  
PacManDreaming: One of my favorite news stories was from a few years ago. A bunch of teens ended up the the hospital and one of the girls said she couldn't believe that it almost killed her because "it was all natural and didn't have any chemicals in it".

By that logic, death cap mushrooms, the Inland Taipan snake, and Blister Beetles should all be regular features on the dinner menu.
 
2010-08-22 12:37:03 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw: Adjective Bird Whiskey: Screw you guys. I'ma trip my balls off.

You're better off smoking salvia. And that's saying something.


Is it that wild of a ride? I could use some inspiration for this project I'm working on and nothing normal or rational is working
 
2010-08-22 12:38:44 AM  
make me some tea: Jimson has arsenic in it.

Seems unlikely a plant can synthesize metals. Seems more likely that it would absorb what arsenic is in the soil.
 
2010-08-22 12:42:11 AM  
Smeggy Smurf: Occam's Chainsaw: Adjective Bird Whiskey: Screw you guys. I'ma trip my balls off.

You're better off smoking salvia. And that's saying something.

Is it that wild of a ride? I could use some inspiration for this project I'm working on and nothing normal or rational is working


Salvia Divinium (Divinorum?) The Deviner's Sage. I don't smoke anything but I know people that have and apparently it can be LSD-ish for about five minutes. But there's lots of salvia that are just ornamental plants, so it's like the kid down the street that says since sage also smells like pot, it also gets you high like it. Not really, but there's no shortage of youtube official evidence.
 
2010-08-22 12:42:53 AM  
xuanzhiyouxuan: make me some tea: Jimson has arsenic in it.

Seems unlikely a plant can synthesize metals. Seems more likely that it would absorb what arsenic is in the soil.


It doesn't:

The active ingredients are the Tropane alkaloids atropine, hyoscyamine and scopolamine which are classified as deliriants, or anticholinergics (^)
 
2010-08-22 12:45:41 AM  
fanbladesaresharp: ...but there's no shortage of youtube official evidence.

This is one of my favorite salvia videos. (^)(NSFW language)
 
2010-08-22 12:48:07 AM  
I have three moonflowers (related to and closely resembling jimsonweed, not the moonflower that is related to morning glorys)) growing outside my living room right now.

It's a beautiful flower and smells lovely. The plant is related to tomatoes, eggplant, tobacco, potato, pepper and about half off all other New World plants.

There's a jimsonweed growing down the road from me. I'm in Michigan and it's not a common weed here.

/just in case you needed some random info tonight
 
2010-08-22 12:48:19 AM  
FTA: "Mad Mike," a "self-taught expert" on Jimsonweed can tell you about his personal experiences in the video below: "I've seen hobby horses and like weird things on the side of the road, you know, like sparkly horse unicorn type things.

So that how Obama got elected!
 
2010-08-22 12:48:43 AM  
News flash. Hallucination plants have been growing with wild marijuana in the prairies of North America for centuries. Just, city folks think it's new.

We used to call those "Spiny Apples". If I recall; it's been an ez 30 years since I've done one, it's not a pleasant high.

Heart races to the point your BP causes your face to turn red, stomach on the verge of puking for hours, headache, and nothing is 'fun'.

There are better plants city folks. Keep looking.
 
2010-08-22 12:50:11 AM  
Yeah, never heard of it:

"I'm back in the saddle again
Out where a friend is a friend
Where the long-horn cattle feed
On the lonely jimson weed
Back in the saddle again"
 
2010-08-22 12:59:12 AM  
Ral: PacManDreaming: One of my favorite news stories was from a few years ago. A bunch of teens ended up the the hospital and one of the girls said she couldn't believe that it almost killed her because "it was all natural and didn't have any chemicals in it".

By that logic, death cap mushrooms, the Inland Taipan snake, and Blister Beetles should all be regular features on the dinner menu.


What about a Kenyan mangrove crab?
 
2010-08-22 12:59:58 AM  
Was it Toledo window box?
 
2010-08-22 01:03:56 AM  
Weeds grow like weeds. Thanks, Ric.
 
2010-08-22 01:11:29 AM  
Smeggy Smurf: Is it that wild of a ride? I could use some inspiration for this project I'm working on and nothing normal or rational is working

Let me put it this way: it's one hell of a mindbender. You inhale, hold it, exhale, and it's like someone hit you in the head with a hallucinogenic sledgehammer. You then proceed to trip balls for about five minutes. But Salvia has one of the most potent time dilation effects of any hallucinogen I've come across, so those five minutes feel like days. I always found the experience unpleasant. It seems to have some sort of entheogenic quality to it, as quite a goodly number of people describe seeing God, Satan, angels, their totem animal, the spirit realm, and so on.

If you're really interested in alternate consciousness, dextromethorphan hydrobromide is a less brutal (but longer lasting) way to go. It's a disassociative, not a hallucinogen, but you'll get some of the same category of effects due to the way your brain's wired. 4-8 hours of messed up, sleep it off, you're fine. Ratio of LD50 to effective recreational dose is ~12-1, so you're NOT going to OD unless you put effort into it.
 
2010-08-22 01:13:53 AM  
Go Darwinism!
 
2010-08-22 01:20:06 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw: Smeggy Smurf: Is it that wild of a ride? I could use some inspiration for this project I'm working on and nothing normal or rational is working

Let me put it this way: it's one hell of a mindbender. You inhale, hold it, exhale, and it's like someone hit you in the head with a hallucinogenic sledgehammer. You then proceed to trip balls for about five minutes. But Salvia has one of the most potent time dilation effects of any hallucinogen I've come across, so those five minutes feel like days. I always found the experience unpleasant. It seems to have some sort of entheogenic quality to it, as quite a goodly number of people describe seeing God, Satan, angels, their totem animal, the spirit realm, and so on.

If you're really interested in alternate consciousness, dextromethorphan hydrobromide is a less brutal (but longer lasting) way to go. It's a disassociative, not a hallucinogen, but you'll get some of the same category of effects due to the way your brain's wired. 4-8 hours of messed up, sleep it off, you're fine. Ratio of LD50 to effective recreational dose is ~12-1, so you're NOT going to OD unless you put effort into it.


Or people could just get high on life!

:-D
 
2010-08-22 01:30:34 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw: Let me put it this way: it's one hell of a mindbender. You inhale, hold it, exhale, and it's like someone hit you in the head with a hallucinogenic sledgehammer. You then proceed to trip balls for about five minutes. But Salvia has one of the most potent time dilation effects of any hallucinogen I've come across, so those five minutes feel like days. I always found the experience unpleasant. It seems to have some sort of entheogenic quality to it, as quite a goodly number of people describe seeing God, Satan, angels, their totem animal, the spirit realm, and so on.

Precisely. For me the 5 minutes felt like years.

PacManDreaming: fanbladesaresharp: ...but there's no shortage of youtube official evidence.

This is one of my favorite salvia videos. (^)(NSFW language)


The thing about the video that I find very accurate is the laughing. The laughing occurs, BUT (I'm sure you know this) when you are laughing on the outside...you're really farking terrified and out of your mind. Everyone else thinks "hey it must be fun, I'll try that". It isn't an "I'm enjoying this" type laugh, more like a mad hatter "I'm out of my farking mind and my brain can only cope with it by laughing" type laugh.

Complete. Ego. Death.
 
2010-08-22 01:30:58 AM  
Mock26: Or people could just get high on life!

:-D


Sure. You can just exercise until you get enough endorphins and dopamine flowing that you're feeling fine. Or masturbate furiously.

Because god forbid you alter your brain chemistry with sucrose, 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine, acetacylic acid, phenylethylamine, or some other horrid foreign substance.
 
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