Gato Negro: Is Christmas unconstitutional?
Gato Negro: Christmas is a federal holiday. Does that make it unconstitutional?Sounds like 'endorsing a religion' to me...
spin359: Why don't we just put up large tombstones that are not cross shaped? how about a small billboard? There bickering over shape....
Pocket Ninja: I do not understand, at all, the impulse to mark the exact spot where a loved one died. It seems so empty and ultimately meaningless. You already have a marker--the grave. Unless the person was cremated and their ashes scattered right there at the spot where the accident happened, it just seems completely pointless to mark that spot in any way. What if they died on the way to the hospital? Would you erect a cross in the ambulance? What if your loved one was killed during a convenience store hold up? Would you expect to be able to erect a monument in front of the Fritos display? It's a silly gesture completely lacking in any coherent meaning (even a religious one).
ShillinTheVillain: To be fair, the roads are public property. I'd rather just not put anything on the side of the road as opposed to having to deal with every group petitioning to put their own insignias up all over the highway system. That's what cemeteries and memorial gardens are for.That being said, if you are so offended by something as simple as a little white marker on the side of the road that you feel the need to sue, you should have a buckshot lunch.
LegalHeaven: how will it affect private parties who do it when they lose a child, etc?
Oldiron_79: Osama is still free, how about you?
AaronK: How come there's no Star of David markers?
LegalHeaven: I was always told that those crosses were there not only in memory of people, but also to serve as a warning to other drivers that due to carelessness or a bad area in the road, someone lost their lives at this place.....Memorials aren't there for the dead, they are there for the living.I know this ruling is probably limited to only those crosses put up by the Highway Patrol (haven't read the opinion, but I would venture a guess the ruling is based on separation of church and state), but how will it affect private parties who do it when they lose a child, etc?
habitual_masticator: AaronK: How come there's no Star of David markers?because christians are the worst drivers
DarnoKonrad: Who said it's about being offended? It's about the principal of the thing, which you seem to share.
Fark Me To Tears: Have these judges ever visited Arlington National Cemetery? Following their logic, the grave markers (most of which are crosses) should all be taken down, as the US government placed them there.I'm all for separation of church and state, but here's a point where the judicial system, in a pedantic exercise, is confusing state endorsement of a particular religion with societal norms or culture. Yes, the cross symbolizes Christianity, but it also symbolizes a memorial to those who've passed on. When you see a road-side cross you also understand that it's a memorial. I'm not offended by the idea of a memorial, even if it's put there by the government.
tricksiecat: ...Call me when they start erecting crosses in front of courthouses or schools.
ShillinTheVillain: I just don't understand what goes through the mind of somebody who is driving down the road and sees one of those and feels the need to take it to court.
ShillinTheVillain: opposed to having to deal with every group petitioning to put their own insignias up all over the highway system.
username101: There's nothing wrong with putting up markers for a state trooper's death (though it is a big waste of money), but there is a big problem when you're using obnoxious and completely religious symbols like that cross. Like the article says, Mormons don't even USE crosses, making it even more baffling.
Yeah_Right: This is an example of political correctness run amuck. I don't care for religion ... but putting a marker on the side of the road to mark a location of a loved one's passing, it shouldn't be a big deal. It's more then likely that these monuments were placed there by family and friends - and not by a church or a religious organization./the bat-shait insane-ness is getting out of control - on both sides of the political spectrum.
Yeah_Right: This is an example of political correctness run amuck. I don't care for religion ... but putting a marker on the side of the road to mark a location of a loved one's passing, it shouldn't be a big deal. It's more then likely that these monuments were placed there by family and friends - and not by a church or a religious organization.
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