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2010-08-16 11:45:51 AM  
I would think an anonymous sperm donor wouldn't WANT to be found...
 
2010-08-16 11:47:21 AM  
I doubt this will affect donations much. There will always be college kids who need beer money. So beer money and they get to clear the barrel before the party, win/win.
 
2010-08-16 11:47:29 AM  
Sorry but this video is no longer availible
 
2010-08-16 11:49:14 AM  
Sperm Donor Offspring? I love their latest album!
 
2010-08-16 11:49:55 AM  
Tube sock sperm donors will undoubtedly be on the rise.
 
2010-08-16 11:50:29 AM  
This is why I never did sperm donating, no matter how broke I was in college.
 
2010-08-16 11:50:53 AM  
Ashtrey: I doubt this will affect donations much. There will always be college kids who need beer money. So beer money and they get to clear the barrel before the party, win/win.

Whoa, not before the party. After, maybe, but only if Lucy the Slut doesn't show up.
 
2010-08-16 11:53:13 AM  
Why do women pay for this service... they could get it for free at ANY local bar!
 
2010-08-16 11:53:38 AM  
Uhhh, shiat. After the giant confidentiality contract, I better not have some crotch fruit calling me up telling me I'm their long lost sperm donor dad. I will be suing the piss out of someone if this happens.
 
2010-08-16 11:53:43 AM  
Is it true that most centers will only pay for guys that are 6'+ with attractive features?
 
2010-08-16 11:53:51 AM  
chu2dogg: This is why I never did sperm donating, no matter how broke I was in college.

That, and it's generally easier to get into Harvard than it is to be accepted as a sperm donor.
 
2010-08-16 11:53:53 AM  
I demand the state respect my fundamental human right to violate other people's human rights
 
2010-08-16 11:54:15 AM  
chu2dogg: This is why I never did sperm donating, no matter how broke I was in college.

This. Oprah had a show about this a while ago. These children were all looking for their real donor parent. I understand why they would want to know, but the show leaned heavily on the fact that the children were somehow entitled to financial and emotional support from the donor parents once they were found. Not cool.
 
2010-08-16 11:59:47 AM  
sweav: Is it true that most centers will only pay for guys that are 6'+ with attractive features?

lukelightning: chu2dogg: This is why I never did sperm donating, no matter how broke I was in college.

That, and it's generally easier to get into Harvard than it is to be accepted as a sperm donor.



Since men have to meet impossible standards to donate sperm...... are the women asking for sperm also required to meet the same Super Nietzsche criteria?

/no, no one is due financial and emotional support just for being conceived
 
2010-08-16 12:01:01 PM  
Blame mommy's barren uterus, or blame daddy for shooting blanks. Just be thankful they went through the trouble to have you.
/and stop whining.
 
2010-08-16 12:02:24 PM  
No wonder I got all those weird looks when I made a donation in the jar at the local art museum. Hey, they asked me to and pointed at the jar even!

I don't know what was up with them calling the cops, though, that was kinda crazy.
 
2010-08-16 12:02:56 PM  
i253.photobucket.com

Aye, you littler feller, I supposen it's your right to know, that that ain't grog you're quaffing but rather pints of me briney mansauce.
 
2010-08-16 12:03:25 PM  
So she KNOWS he doesn't want to be contacted, yet she continues the search for him anyway saying "I think he'll want to get to know me"...

/good luck with that
 
2010-08-16 12:05:45 PM  
This is the sort of crap that is going to kill sperm donations and make it that much more difficult for families who really need it to get anonymous assistance.
 
2010-08-16 12:06:18 PM  
lukelightning: chu2dogg: This is why I never did sperm donating, no matter how broke I was in college.

That, and it's generally easier to get into Harvard than it is to be accepted as a sperm donor.


I'd of done this in a second if I weren't too short for the local places. They probably don't want my bald jeans either :(

/not concerned about the offspring getting in touch with me
 
2010-08-16 12:07:10 PM  
Since men have to meet impossible standards to donate sperm...... are the women asking for sperm also required to meet the same Super Nietzsche criteria?--ExperianScaresCthulhu

Probably the dumbest comment ever on Fark. When you are searching for an egg donor, for a child YOU will have to raise, then you can come up with whatever assinine standards a dumbass like you could think of. M'kay?
 
2010-08-16 12:08:04 PM  
Cotton Rinkenbolts: This. Oprah had a show about this a while ago. These children were all looking for their real donor parent. I understand why they would want to know, but the show leaned heavily on the fact that the children were somehow entitled to financial and emotional support from the donor parents once they were found. Not cool.

Depending on your State sperm donors are not actually exempt from child support. In these instances the only thing that prevents them from being on the hook for child support is that their anonymity prevents them from being tracked down.

If those laws don't change before the laws guarding donors anonymity change then we're probably going to see some screwey court cases.
 
2010-08-16 12:09:14 PM  
Station: This is the sort of crap that is going to kill sperm donations and make it that much more difficult for families who really need it to get anonymous assistance.

No one needs "anonymous assistance".
 
2010-08-16 12:09:30 PM  
brap: Aye, you littler feller, I supposen it's your right to know, that that ain't grog you're quaffing but rather pints of me briney mansauce.

I lolled.
 
2010-08-16 12:13:07 PM  
MyNameIsRobertPaulson: Cotton Rinkenbolts: This. Oprah had a show about this a while ago. These children were all looking for their real donor parent. I understand why they would want to know, but the show leaned heavily on the fact that the children were somehow entitled to financial and emotional support from the donor parents once they were found. Not cool.

Depending on your State sperm donors are not actually exempt from child support. In these instances the only thing that prevents them from being on the hook for child support is that their anonymity prevents them from being tracked down.

If those laws don't change before the laws guarding donors anonymity change then we're probably going to see some screwey court cases.


That is messed up.
 
2010-08-16 12:13:53 PM  
I believe (not 100% positive) that donors have actually been found responsible for child support. Complete BS.
 
2010-08-16 12:14:47 PM  
Yeah I'm sorry. If you donate eggs/sperm you are no longer responsible for what is done with it, and should have no legal obligation to anyone.
 
2010-08-16 12:15:49 PM  
Wow, it's so nice to meet you! You were probably too young to remember, but the last time I saw you, you were in a cup with thousands of your brothers and sisters, and the nurse handed me a check for $150 bucks.

Alternate:
Are you good at math? I only ask because I rubbed you out while looking at asian porn.

2nd alternate:
My nickname for you shall be "wad" and I will be constantly blotting you with tissue.
 
2010-08-16 12:15:58 PM  
MyNameIsRobertPaulson: Cotton Rinkenbolts: This. Oprah had a show about this a while ago. These children were all looking for their real donor parent. I understand why they would want to know, but the show leaned heavily on the fact that the children were somehow entitled to financial and emotional support from the donor parents once they were found. Not cool.

Depending on your State sperm donors are not actually exempt from child support. In these instances the only thing that prevents them from being on the hook for child support is that their anonymity prevents them from being tracked down.

If those laws don't change before the laws guarding donors anonymity change then we're probably going to see some screwey court cases.


You're saying it depends on what the definition of "anonymous" is? Farked up, man.

// 6'4, ponytail
// this is relevant to my interests as a capitalist
 
2010-08-16 12:17:17 PM  
mjbok: I believe (not 100% positive) that donors have actually been found responsible for child support. Complete BS.

I think that the law in Australia says that they now are. Now no one sperms in a cup down under.
 
2010-08-16 12:17:59 PM  
The doc in the video made the best point of all. No kid, no matter who or how they are conceived, ever has a choice or a say about their parentage, period. They don't have any intrinsic rights about it ever, never have. You never get a say about who your parents are, or about knowing who your parents are, some mothers don't know, even if they don't have a sperm donor. What if a mother was raped in the dark by a stranger that was never found? oops, sorry! No clue. What about back before DNA? Lots of people didn't know who their actual parents were, orphans, adoptions.

It seems like a right, but its really not. Everyone has parents and yet we all think ours are way more special to us than the whole worlds are somehow. You think parents and their special snowflakes are bad? We actually look forward to them moving out one day. Find someone with Mommy and/or Daddy issues? Yeah, they're Farked with a capital Sex Addict-call-your-local-law-enforcement-for-a-restraining-order-and-a-Farking-wit ness protection-relocation-program, 'cause you ain't never getting that lock of hair back...
 
2010-08-16 12:18:15 PM  
If someone I took the trouble to sweat and pray over, love and discipline, decided to go looking for their donor egg or sperm, I would support them. Up to the moment they revealed the search was for financial support. Then, I would appear as a Fark headline, because I would so slap the crap out of the little ingrate.
 
2010-08-16 12:18:22 PM  
None of my plasma cells ever came back to demand a relationship...
 
2010-08-16 12:18:23 PM  
Didn't they do this in Sweden and let the mothers sue for child support. Which then caused donations to stop?
 
2010-08-16 12:18:23 PM  
It looks like we're having another swing back to defining parents as the people who you are genetically related to instead of the people who raised you. I've always preferred the definition as people who do the work of parenting = the real parents.

Although I feel for the kids I worry that this will discourage sperm donation. It's meant to help people who can't, sometimes due to genetic problems, have kids the usual way. I think helping people in this way is a good thing.

If sperm donors are getting into some nebulous and not well defined relationship with the kids that result I can see it getting much less popular. I think that unless some arrangement was made ahead of time the relationship between a donor and his genetic offspring should be nothing except some genetic info if they want it.
 
2010-08-16 12:18:31 PM  
Slam Bradley: lukelightning: chu2dogg: This is why I never did sperm donating, no matter how broke I was in college.

That, and it's generally easier to get into Harvard than it is to be accepted as a sperm donor.

I'd of done this in a second if I weren't too short for the local places. They probably don't want my bald jeans either :(

/not concerned about the offspring getting in touch with me


GIS for "bald jeans":

www.denimblog.com

Nice sandals, guy.
 
2010-08-16 12:19:07 PM  
stigmatoe: Probably the dumbest comment ever on Fark.

Lets not get carried away now. 15 seconds in the politics section will reveal things far dumber.
 
2010-08-16 12:21:04 PM  
mjbok: I believe (not 100% positive) that donors have actually been found responsible for child support. Complete BS.

I'm pretty sure that the only donors who have really fallen foul of this are cases where the woman knows the man - for example there have been a couple of cases where lesbian or infertile couples have gotten help from a male friend and the friend ended up on the hook when the relationship between the couple broke down.
 
2010-08-16 12:21:32 PM  
Tard Strong: Why do women pay for this service... they could get it for free at ANY local bar!

Because their choices are kinda like the following:

www.scamtypes.com

www.spin180.com

paud.ie

2.bp.blogspot.com

i14.photobucket.com


Joooooooy.
 
2010-08-16 12:25:09 PM  
On the one hand, I tend to think children have a right to know who their parents are. Medical history, and all that.

On the other hand:

Honest Bender: I would think an anonymous sperm donor wouldn't WANT to be found...
 
2010-08-16 12:25:30 PM  
stigmatoe: Since men have to meet impossible standards to donate sperm...... are the women asking for sperm also required to meet the same Super Nietzsche criteria?--ExperianScaresCthulhu

Probably the dumbest comment ever on Fark. When you are searching for an egg donor, for a child YOU will have to raise, then you can come up with whatever assinine standards a dumbass like you could think of. M'kay?


Well sure, but if the donors are now also potentially responsible for it, they should get to choose the standards for the egg. I mean, I don't want some Quasimoto-looking thing show up on my doorstep asking for money.
 
2010-08-16 12:26:41 PM  
Mayah: Although I feel for the kids I worry that this will discourage sperm donation. It's meant to help people who can't, sometimes due to genetic problems, have kids the usual way. I think helping people in this way is a good thing.

Well.. maybe that's a good thing if it means people will stop doing fertility treatments and start adopting.

I'm amazed and disgusted that sperm donors somehow end up on the hook for child support. There are no words.
 
2010-08-16 12:29:58 PM  
MyNameIsRobertPaulson: mjbok: I believe (not 100% positive) that donors have actually been found responsible for child support. Complete BS.

I'm pretty sure that the only donors who have really fallen foul of this are cases where the woman knows the man - for example there have been a couple of cases where lesbian or infertile couples have gotten help from a male friend and the friend ended up on the hook when the relationship between the couple broke down.


I.E. it wasn't an anonymous donation.

I'd get a lawyer to draft up something saying I was not going to be financially responsible for the child.

I'm reminded of my first child's birth though. Even though we were married I had to consent to having my name on the birth certificate. The anecdote the nurse gave was that apparently some single moms had been listing men that were not the father without their knowledge or consent, and the state had recently changed the law.

Once your name is on that certificate, you are financially responsible for that child.
 
2010-08-16 12:33:25 PM  
MyNameIsRobertPaulson: mjbok: I believe (not 100% positive) that donors have actually been found responsible for child support. Complete BS.

I'm pretty sure that the only donors who have really fallen foul of this are cases where the woman knows the man - for example there have been a couple of cases where lesbian or infertile couples have gotten help from a male friend and the friend ended up on the hook when the relationship between the couple broke down.


Yeah, the only one I remember was some lesbo couple that got a man to be a sperm donor. Only instead of going through the proper legal channels of sperm donation, they all decided that it was just easier for the guy to give her a good farkin'.

Apparently it was a huge shock when he discovered that sticking his tool in someone's garden and willingly planting a seed does, in fact, leave him on the hook for child support.
 
2010-08-16 12:33:53 PM  
I say we push for a GATTACA type health screening to nullify this whole "medical history" thing but that won't happen for a while. At least I don't think. I'm of the state of mind that Anonymous means Anonymous and that if you're paying for the right to use this donated egg or sperm to make your baby that you will sign off any right to attempt contact to the donor and that it should extend to the resulting baby.
 
2010-08-16 12:34:35 PM  
And people laugh at those who continue to make the outrageous claim that one man, one woman, married should be the prerequisite for conception.
 
2010-08-16 12:35:42 PM  
Wait, is "The Kids are Alright" hitting stores tomorrow?
 
2010-08-16 12:36:25 PM  
meat0918: I'd get a lawyer to draft up something saying I was not going to be financially responsible for the child.

It doesn't matter. You cannot sign away the rights of a child (in this case, child support). There are numerous cases where a document like this is nullified.
 
2010-08-16 12:37:02 PM  
meat0918: I.E. it wasn't an anonymous donation.

Correct. However nor will donations (past and future) to a sperm bank if laws protecting donors anonymity change. And depending on your jurisdiction there might be no specific law differentiating sperm donors from guys who get women pregnant the traditional way.

meat0918: I'd get a lawyer to draft up something saying I was not going to be financially responsible for the child.

In the US, and in a few other countries IIRC, that does not work. In the US the courts do not allow a parent to sign away their child's right to parental support. The parent with custody can sign that contract with you and choose not to ask for support but that piece of paper wont mean a damn thing if they change their mind.
 
2010-08-16 12:38:18 PM  
Teknowaffle: mjbok: I believe (not 100% positive) that donors have actually been found responsible for child support. Complete BS.

I think that the law in Australia says that they now are. Now no one sperms in a cup down under.


You mean where women glow and men plunder?
 
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