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2010-08-15 01:33:00 PM
Pro-tip: Guilty or innocent, do not "cooperate" with the police.
 
2010-08-15 01:40:14 PM
Doc Daneeka: From the article, looks like it was actually the District Attorney's office, not the police, that has decided to dismiss charges and release the guy.

Probably when a look at the evidence revealed that they'd never be able to get a conviction.


They're not releasing him. He committed a parole violation, or so it says.
 
2010-08-15 01:45:50 PM
farkingnotworking: meow said the dog: Excuse me? Try to do the breathing then make a new post that is not lacking in sense. Thank you.

I am really fascinated by Meow said the dog. I've never run into her before, and now all of a sudden I'm seeing her in a bunch of threads. Is this just a web concoction? Is Meow a sprig of the Borat plant that someone has cleverly pinched off and begun to cultivate on their own? Or is this genuine internet gibberish? I don't know which would be more awesome...


Stop encouraging it. They were already outed as a fraud in another thread. In fact, they outed themselves.
 
2010-08-15 01:54:44 PM
Constance Velocity: Stop encouraging it. They were already outed as a fraud in another thread. In fact, they outed themselves.

I am not sure who I have defrauded but this is very relevant to this as you are accusing me of the crime that was not done by me and yet you think I did much like this person who was accused of choking the chicken and did not do that.
 
2010-08-15 02:01:31 PM
davidphogan: Doc Daneeka: From the article, looks like it was actually the District Attorney's office, not the police, that has decided to dismiss charges and release the guy.

Probably when a look at the evidence revealed that they'd never be able to get a conviction.

They're not releasing him. He committed a parole violation, or so it says.


Since cameras weren't allowed at his hearing I am assuming they beat the shiat out of him when he was "uncooperative" and need to keep him away from the public eye.
 
2010-08-15 02:34:46 PM
davidphogan:
He probably lied about being at a bar at all. Keeping your mouth shut while innocent isn't being uncooperative, but flat out lying to cover your ass of something else you did is.


that's my take on this too. knew he'd be violated on his parole by being in the bar so he lied. but the dick move by the police of keeping him in jail instead of just reporting him to his parole officer is SOP for the police.

remember kids it's not against the law to make law enforcement look bad but it ain't too bright either. they will fark you up for it.
 
2010-08-15 02:44:01 PM
Constance Velocity:
Stop encouraging it. They were already outed as a fraud in another thread. In fact, they outed themselves.


I dunno. I took meow off my ignore list today because I see s/he has upped his/her game. I've not been fond of the (obvious Balki-esque) schtick, but I feel like meow is growing into it nicely.

BTW, what thread? Link?
 
2010-08-15 02:46:41 PM
The link now goes to the Buffalo, NY restaurant shooting. Anyone have the real link?
 
2010-08-15 02:50:46 PM
MrFi5ter: The link now goes to the Buffalo, NY restaurant shooting. Anyone have the real link?

Minor correction; the link goes to the article about that shooting, not the actual shooting. That would be a terrible thing to click on.
 
2010-08-15 02:57:54 PM
PsychoTherapist: Constance Velocity:
Stop encouraging it. They were already outed as a fraud in another thread. In fact, they outed themselves.

I dunno. I took meow off my ignore list today because I see s/he has upped his/her game. I've not been fond of the (obvious Balki-esque) schtick, but I feel like meow is growing into it nicely.

BTW, what thread? Link?


I agree--the dialect on its own isn't that funny most of the time, but the occasional euphemism for masturbation nested within a larger stream of foreign consciousness (to wit: "I am not sure who I have defrauded but this is very relevant to this as you are accusing me of the crime that was not done by me and yet you think I did much like this person who was accused of choking the chicken and did not do that.") is nicely done. Plus her blog shows conveys the longevity of the character. This is a really well developed alt. The author shows a serious commitment to her craft. I applaud it, even if I probably will, after a few days, find it so annoying that I put her on ignore.
 
2010-08-15 03:00:54 PM
Lampmonster: Vangor: Johnson was not being cooperative when interviewed by police on Saturday.

Who do you imagine would be cooperative in such a situation, the actual murderer?

I was watching a true crime thing recently and one of the reasons they decided to focus in on one of the suspects was because they asked for a lawyer when questioned. I personally cannot imagine not asking for a lawyer at that point.


this this and lots more of this

never ever talk to the police without a lawyer
1) am I being charged with anything?
2) before answering any questions I want a full waver of immunity from state and federal prosecution

repeat after me
I was looking the other way.
I didnt see anything.
I wasnt there, I was elsewhere farking your sister/wife.

/ok, that last one might get you beat on
 
2010-08-15 03:16:22 PM
FTA:
The District Attorney concluded by saying, "I'm not going to prosecute someone unless I'm absolutely sure he did it and I'm not sure he did it."

That's a radical approach to being a DA. Normally they'd say "We're going to throw all the shiat we've got at the wall and see what sticks."
 
2010-08-15 03:19:05 PM
Buffalo Police Commissioner Daniel Derenda said he "apologized" for the mistake but added Johnson was "less than truthful"

Read that as: "He didn't confess."
 
2010-08-15 03:19:13 PM
Fizpez: That's bad luck on Johnson's part - he's 2 weeks out of the joint, hits up a local bar because, hey who wouldn't - it's not like your local bartender gives a rats ass if you did some time and arent supposed to be in there - if you're behaving your money is good.

So he hits up a bar in violation of his parole but happens to look a lot like the guy who just committed mass murder nearby. The police were just doing their job - its unfortunate his identity wasnt kept less public.


That just occurred to me... What makes a murderer into a mass murderer?

1 magazine's worth.
 
2010-08-15 03:22:15 PM
Doc Daneeka: Ow My Balls: I actually admire the police for admitting this wasn't the right lead and moving on. A less scrupulous force could've just put this guy in prison for life, thumped their chests for a job well done, and nobody but the real killer and the falsely accused would know the difference. I imagine that's happened a time or two IRL.

From the article, looks like it was actually the District Attorney's office, not the police, that has decided to dismiss charges and release the guy.

Probably when a look at the evidence revealed that they'd never be able to get a conviction.


Heh - No longer it's innocent until proven guilty... It's guilty until proven unable to get a conviction.
 
2010-08-15 03:30:48 PM
No sympathy for a convicted felon who is out violating the terms of his parole. None at all.
 
2010-08-15 03:44:59 PM
sjcpjh1: No sympathy for a convicted felon who is out violating the terms of his parole. None at all.

Something about your post rubs me the wrong way...

Either it's that it smacks of zero tolerance, knee-jerking or that you only care about that he's a ex-convict, never mind what he was convicted of?
 
2010-08-15 04:04:02 PM
CrispFlows: sjcpjh1: No sympathy for a convicted felon who is out violating the terms of his parole. None at all.

Something about your post rubs me the wrong way...

Either it's that it smacks of zero tolerance, knee-jerking or that you only care about that he's a ex-convict, never mind what he was convicted of?


Especially considering things that are misdemeanors in one state can easily be a felony in another state. Hell, peeing in the bushes and being seen by a kid constitutes a felony in some places.
 
2010-08-15 04:10:53 PM
prisoner 1: So man what did you do to get here.

prisoner 2: Not kill someone.
 
2010-08-15 04:21:13 PM
MycroftHolmes: Events-Copspicked up a guy who had a record and matched physical description. Guy does not cooperate (answer questions, give alibi, whatever). Cops arrest him based on circumstantial evidence. People call in to alibi him. Police corroborate alibi. Police clear man of murder charges and admit mistake. No story.

Events - Cops pick up a guy who sorta kinda looks like the guy who committed the murder. They don't have anything linking him to the crime. Guy acts smart and doesn't start blabbing to the police, police assume that because the guy is exercising his rights, he must be guilty and they have the right guy.

Yes that's wonderful logic there and should not be concerning to anyone.
 
2010-08-15 04:26:09 PM
ThematicDevice: MycroftHolmes: Events-Copspicked up a guy who had a record and matched physical description. Guy does not cooperate (answer questions, give alibi, whatever). Cops arrest him based on circumstantial evidence. People call in to alibi him. Police corroborate alibi. Police clear man of murder charges and admit mistake. No story.

Events - Cops pick up a guy who sorta kinda looks like the guy who committed the murder. They don't have anything linking him to the crime. Guy acts smart and doesn't start blabbing to the police, police assume that because the guy is exercising his rights, he must be guilty and they have the right guy.

Yes that's wonderful logic there and should not be concerning to anyone.


Some people find the sound of jackboots marching to be soothing.
 
2010-08-15 06:21:41 PM
www.dvdinmypants.com

What can I say
When I've ruined your day
And make you all angry and surly?
How could I make
Such a thoughtless mistake
And bury your mother too early?

/They wouldn't make a card for it if it didn't happen all the time
 
2010-08-16 12:16:09 AM
sjcpjh1: No sympathy for a convicted felon who is out violating the terms of his parole. None at all.

No sympathy for cops who are trying to find a reason to arrest a guy because to try to compensate for their own incompetence.
 
2010-08-16 12:56:54 AM
CrispFlows: Either it's that it smacks of zero tolerance, knee-jerking or that you only care about that he's a ex-convict, never mind what he was convicted of?

See below.

ThematicDevice: Events - Cops pick up a guy who sorta kinda looks like the guy who committed the murder. They don't have anything linking him to the crime. Guy acts smart and doesn't start blabbing to the police, police assume that because the guy is exercising his rights, he must be guilty and they have the right guy.

Yes that's wonderful logic there and should not be concerning to anyone.


You know he was two weeks out of jail and on probation, right?

When you've been out of jail all of two weeks, if going to a bar is part of your parole, probably don't farking go to bars. Even if someone doesn't get murdered it's an easy way to get screwed by a cop. If you have to drink, invite some friends over.

I'm not going to show much sympathy for a guy who looks like a mass murderer (four or more per the FBI, to answer CrispFlows, a serial killer does it over time, a spree killer does it at the same time, so he's also a spree killer) and is in violation of his parole two weeks after his arrest for being wrongly identified and not immediately released.

He's a dumbass, which lowers my niceness quotient.
 
2010-08-16 12:59:04 AM
After the paragraph I butchered that last sentence, and I apologize now. Too many edits, but he screwed up by going to a bar. Looking like a spree killer screwed him, but he screwed up first and wasn't questioned without probable cause.
 
2010-08-16 05:38:58 PM
davidphogan: I'm not going to show much sympathy for a guy who looks like a mass murderer

Wait, merely matching a description is a great immoral act? That is just farking insane. Lets talk about what's really going on here, you are unable to accept that no bad situation would befall anyone who you do not believe deserves it. As a result under any circumstance where something bad happens you want to make up a story about how it could never be you in that situation. To accept otherwise is too frightening. Its a common reaction but by no means a reasonable one.
 
2010-08-17 02:09:53 PM
ThematicDevice: davidphogan: I'm not going to show much sympathy for a guy who looks like a mass murderer

Wait, merely matching a description is a great immoral act? That is just farking insane. Lets talk about what's really going on here, you are unable to accept that no bad situation would befall anyone who you do not believe deserves it. As a result under any circumstance where something bad happens you want to make up a story about how it could never be you in that situation. To accept otherwise is too frightening. Its a common reaction but by no means a reasonable one.


I believe he was referring that he was already violating parole by going to the bar.

Not by being wrongfully arrested.
 
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