TFA haz a probalem.

fenrael23: TFA haz a probalem.

Goddommot. 28 seconds.

lemme guess--a trampoline fatality?

I'm not scared. Jumping in a bouncy castle is totally worth a little bit of lead poisoning.

drongozone: lemme guess--a trampoline fatality?

Oh no, much worse than that.

So the writer had one in his back yard too, then?

Cory Doctorow fell down the stairs?

Considering that the effects of heavy metal poisoning are well understood, and considering the horror of brain damage, you'd think there would be lead in nothing. It just goes to show that people don't want to believe that intelligence is what the brain does. It's, I dunno, a spirit, wooooowooooooooooo...!

drongozone: lemme guess--a trampoline fatality?

That's what I thought until I RTFA.

Diogenes: Farking lead. How does it work it's way into every friggin' thing?

Lead always has the lead.

Bouncy houses are especially dangerous when some of your middle school 'friends' decide to gang up on you and repeatedly slam into you, pro wrestling style.

fark you Todd Hughes, fark You.

/CSB

Yes?

Stupid title. Article has nothing to do with thud.

Bouncy Bouncy
Oh such a good time
Bouncy Bouncy
Shoes all in a line
Bouncy Bouncy
Everybody
Summersault,
Summersault
Summertime
Everybody sing along
Bouncy Bouncy
Oh such a good time
Bouncy Bouncy
White socks slipping down
Bouncy Bouncy
Styletos are lead is a no no
Bouncy Bouncy oh
Bouncy Bouncy oh
Everytime I bounce I feel I could touch the skyee

be a leader not a leader.

There was a car show in this parking lot across from my place last week. They put up a bounce house for the kiddies. I don't know why, but I got to witness them tipping it over. It must have been all those seizures.

But Schade says no level of exposure is safe.
Bull Farking shiat you worthless fear mongering twit. You're just as bad as the MADD idiots that think one beer turns you into a drunk driver that mows over babies.

If you have less than 10 µg/dL of lead in the blood you've got nothing much to worry about. I smelt lead, case bullets, and do lots of shooting and my blood lead level was only 4 µg/dL IIRC thanks to basic safe handling practices.

How much of a bouncy castle can a kid consume? How often do kids get to play in bouncy castles and risk rubbing lead residue onto their skin?

This whole War on Lead has gotten well past the stage of mind bogglingly stupid.

FTA:
Mike Schade with Center for Health, Environment and Justice says testing revealed the bounce houses were made of vinyl that contain more than 70 times the federal limit for lead.

At work I do a fair mount of soldering with 60/40 sn/pb solder and at home I cast lead bullets for reloading (with lead styphnate primers no less), yet the blood lead levels of myself and my kid are below average. So what's up with that Mr. Schade?

I think some Farker's Evil Plan too rid the world of children has reached the final stage.

I was guessing a pogo stick accident.

Too/to. Damn.

Three guesses where the vinyl for these bad boys got manufactured.

First two guesses don't count.



/ kids in bounce houses... shouldn't throw fits? :(

interstitialofficial: Considering that the effects of heavy metal poisoning are well understood, and considering the horror of brain damage, you'd think there would be lead in nothing. It just goes to show that people don't want to believe that intelligence is what the brain does. It's, I dunno, a spirit, wooooowooooooooooo...!

electronics hobbyists everywhere look at you with disapproval

/you can have my solder when you peal it off my scorched, dead hand.

why don't they just go and say it? anything and everything can and will eventually kill you! do not go outside! do no play with any toys/electronics since they could poison you or give you cancer! do not have any fun whatsoever as it may cause brain damage!

interstitialofficial: Considering that the effects of heavy metal poisoning are well understood, and considering the horror of brain damage, you'd think there would be lead in nothing.

And yet isn't it strange that there seems to be lead in everything and not all that many people are actually being diagnosed with lead poisoning?

Maybe instead of just saying "OMG heavymetals!" and starting up a witch hunt for anything that might contain lead, we should consider the bioavailabilty and specific uses of lead compounds?

The_Original_Roxtar: interstitialofficial: Considering that the effects of heavy metal poisoning are well understood, and considering the horror of brain damage, you'd think there would be lead in nothing. It just goes to show that people don't want to believe that intelligence is what the brain does. It's, I dunno, a spirit, wooooowooooooooooo...!

electronics hobbyists everywhere look at you with disapproval

/you can have my solder when you peal it off my scorched, dead hand.

There's leadless solder. And anyway, it's not like we don't know about the lead in solder, and as electronics hobbyists, we know not to lather ourselves in it or breathe the fumes.

caddisfly: Wouldn't it be amazing if the spike in autism and ADHD is traced conclusively to bouncy castles and Chuck E. Cheese-type plastic playgrounds? Seems a better hunch than thermasol and vaccines.

That might be rather sad. It looks like people will do anything to fight big pharma, so there would be some way to stop a pharmaceutical-related disaster. But people cry like chickenshiats when environmental regulations are enforced. There is no way to stop a disaster related to poisonous manufacturing processes. You can stop thalidomide, but you can't stop lead.

drb9: Stupid title. Article has nothing to do with thud.

I should hope not. I never heard anything from my PR guy.

sweet

First thing the headline made me think of:

But Schade says no level of exposure is safe.

So throw out every electronic device you own.

Did someone make fun of the misspelling in the headline yet?

/just checking

Thudfark: drb9: Stupid title. Article has nothing to do with thud.

I should hope not. I never heard anything from my PR guy.

Maybe he just acted in your place. You know, as a Thudfarker proxy.

interstitialofficial: There's leadless solder.

It sucks. It requires higher temperatures (often withing just a couple degrees of temps that would damage components), it makes crappier joints that are more prone to failure (hooray for more broken electronics in landfills), it grows tin whiskers (hooray for even more broken electronics in landfills), and metallic lead is pretty tough to get into your system anyway.

Those fumes are flux, not from the solder itself. Wash your hands in cold water before eating or smoking and you'll do a lot more to mitigate the incredibly small risk of lead poising than you will by worrying over flux fumes.

JesseL: interstitialofficial: Considering that the effects of heavy metal poisoning are well understood, and considering the horror of brain damage, you'd think there would be lead in nothing.

And yet isn't it strange that there seems to be lead in everything and not all that many people are actually being diagnosed with lead poisoning?

Maybe instead of just saying "OMG heavymetals!" and starting up a witch hunt for anything that might contain lead, we should consider the bioavailabilty and specific uses of lead compounds?

There's lead in everything? Not many people are diagnosed with lead poisoning?

I am waiting for one of you teabaggers/neocons to complain about the Center for Health, Environment and Justice being SOCIALISM!

Crosshair: But Schade says no level of exposure is safe.
Bull Farking shiat you worthless fear mongering twit. You're just as bad as the MADD idiots that think one beer turns you into a drunk driver that mows over babies.

"No level of exposure is safe" is always bullshiat. You're going to be exposed to a few atoms/molecules of just about everything with a halflife longer than plutonium. My favorite is the 'no amount of radiation is safe.' Ignoring the derp and assuming that means no level of ionizing radiation is safe...that means sunlight=instant death. If you have ever been exposed to more than one photon of sunlight, even reflected sunlight, you would have cancer out the wazzu. Since all life on earth isn't dead, I'm going to go ahead and say that some extremely small levels of ionizing radiation are just fine.

Crosshair: But Schade says no level of exposure is safe.
Bull Farking shiat you worthless fear mongering twit. You're just as bad as the MADD idiots that think one beer turns you into a drunk driver that mows over babies.

If you have less than 10 µg/dL of lead in the blood you've got nothing much to worry about. I smelt lead, case bullets, and do lots of shooting and my blood lead level was only 4 µg/dL IIRC thanks to basic safe handling practices.



This.

I've had it with the lead fear-mongering and think of the kids bullshiat. Thanks to the EPA's new rules regarding lead and home renovations earlier this year, I have to pay through the nose to get the windows and doors replaced in my home since it was built before 1978. Even better, the opt-out clause was removed in July, so even though we don't have kids, will never have kids and we don't ever have kids over to our house, I still have to pay a contractor extra because of the lead paint residue.

/CSB
//Found all this out yesterday, so still pretty pissed.

JesseL: interstitialofficial: There's leadless solder.

It sucks. It requires higher temperatures (often withing just a couple degrees of temps that would damage components), it makes crappier joints that are more prone to failure (hooray for more broken electronics in landfills), it grows tin whiskers (hooray for even more broken electronics in landfills), and metallic lead is pretty tough to get into your system anyway.

Those fumes are flux, not from the solder itself. Wash your hands in cold water before eating or smoking and you'll do a lot more to mitigate the incredibly small risk of lead poising than you will by worrying over flux fumes.

True enough.