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2010-08-12 11:40:23 PM
Anonymocoso: Apeleutheros: Also, The church has no paid clergy.

"No paid clergy". Comedy Gold!


So the prophet gets a living allowance and gets to stay in the apartment at Temple square that the church owns? He does church stuff morning, noon and night, he can't really work at McDonalds. Big deal.

Even prophets have to eat. - Comedy Gold!
 
2010-08-12 11:55:53 PM
Anonymocoso: Apeleutheros: Anonymocoso:

/Also read somewhere that you aren't allowed to have oral sex. Not sure if that is true or not.

Definitely NOT true.

You're thinking of marriage.

Definitely true.


You found an almost 50 year old and outdated document. You showed us.

Get some new material.

My mistake. It's from 1982. The date is blurry in the image that I posted the link to.

There's a link to the letter and the 1982 date here. And more material on the oral sex ban for Mormons.


You must have your finger on the pulse of mormon ways up there in Kearns. lol

So the church is wrong because they preach restraint, even in intimacy? That sounds churchy to me. I'm not sure what you're gunning for.

But, if it helps, I've been through many Temple interviews and I've been a member for 30 years. I'm totally confident that my sexuality is okay with the Lord.
 
2010-08-13 12:00:10 AM
Apeleutheros: Anonymocoso: Apeleutheros: Also, The church has no paid clergy.

"No paid clergy". Comedy Gold!

So the prophet gets a living allowance and gets to stay in the apartment at Temple square that the church owns? He does church stuff morning, noon and night, he can't really work at McDonalds. Big deal.

Even prophets have to eat. - Comedy Gold!


Do you think that an invisible man is watching you and that he cares what kinds of food and drink you consume, who you have sex with and what kids of clothes you should wear?

Every other question I could possibly have about your religion is predicated on your answer to that one.
 
2010-08-13 12:01:15 AM
Anonymocoso: gadian: My excatholic husband who grew up in Salt Lake suggests that I ask you not-cynical-at-all folks on Fark to explain to me the Book of Abraham "thing". So, uh, whats up with that?

Yet another scam run by child-molesting con man Joseph Short Eyes Smith.


Wow Dude, you have a lot of hate. Did he offend you or are you always like this? You seem like a pleasure to be around.
 
2010-08-13 12:01:41 AM
Anonymocoso: There's a link to the letter and the 1982 date here. And more material on the oral sex ban for Mormons.

There is no ban on oral sex. The quotes endorsing a pure, intimate relationship are meant to encourage a healthy relationship on many levels, e.g, don't guilt your wife into shoving a pineapple up her ass because you've always fantasized about it.

Your link lacks credibility, as it does not properly reference the quotes they used.
 
2010-08-13 12:04:27 AM
FloydA: Apeleutheros: Anonymocoso: Apeleutheros: Also, The church has no paid clergy.

"No paid clergy". Comedy Gold!

So the prophet gets a living allowance and gets to stay in the apartment at Temple square that the church owns? He does church stuff morning, noon and night, he can't really work at McDonalds. Big deal.

Even prophets have to eat. - Comedy Gold!

Do you think that an invisible man GOD is watching you and that he cares what kinds of food and drink you consume, who you have sex with and what kids of clothes you should wear?

Every other question I could possibly have about your religion is predicated on your answer to that one.



FTFM and yes, yes I do. I think he cares a great deal, like any parent would.
 
2010-08-13 12:06:05 AM
teeny: Anonymocoso: There's a link to the letter and the 1982 date here. And more material on the oral sex ban for Mormons.

There is no ban on oral sex. The quotes endorsing a pure, intimate relationship are meant to encourage a healthy relationship on many levels, e.g, don't guilt your wife into shoving a pineapple up her ass because you've always fantasized about it.

Your link lacks credibility, as it does not properly reference the quotes they used.


It's just an anti site, I've seen it dozens of times. That's how they troll.
 
2010-08-13 12:09:38 AM
This thread died hours ago so I'm going to let it go because man, it's gone.

/peace out, farkers
 
2010-08-13 12:10:10 AM
FloydA: Do you think that an invisible man is watching you and that he cares what kinds of food and drink you consume, who you have sex with and what kids of clothes you should wear?

Don't you find it at least mildly disgusting when someone doesn't give a shiat about their health? Gluttonous fatties, nasty whores that don't care about spreading their crabs, or the fugly 40-year-old meth addict that thinks it's okay to dress like Lindsey Lohan?

No invisible man, but the God I believe in appreciates proper health and respect for your body, yeah.
 
2010-08-13 12:10:10 AM
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My wife joined The Church after we had been married for 7 years. That was 16 years ago, and yes, I'm still a little bitter about it.
 
2010-08-13 12:21:48 AM
Apeleutheros:

Your link lacks credibility, as it does not properly reference the quotes they used.

It's just an anti site, I've seen it dozens of times. That's how they troll.


Posting links to letters signed by the LDS church First Presidency = Trolling
 
2010-08-13 12:26:31 AM
Dr. Rhetoric:

My wife joined The Church after we had been married for 7 years. That was 16 years ago, and yes, I'm still a little bitter about it.


Have you checked out exmormon.org? It's like Fark but for people who used to give 10% of their income to billionaires because they believed that a child-molesting con man was a prophet of an Invisible Sky Wizard.
 
2010-08-13 12:34:50 AM
TelJanin: angelwolf65: angelwolf65: TelJanin:
Gladly. Start here and you might learn something:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_migr.htm

Then go here:
http://www.irr.org/mit/bom-arch-v1.html

There is not one shred of evidence supporting the Book of Mormon, or the lying founder of that faith, Joseph Smith and his gullible followers.

Went to the first and it was just a bunch of people with negative opinions of the church, and findings that people proport that the book isn't true, however, there isn't a single statement by any of the church archeaologists that the evidence isn't there, which was your primary assertion. And no, both links either refer to Matheny, or non-LDS archeologists. Matheny contended for years after the Sunstone conference that his words were taken out of context.

However, I'll listen to D. Kelly Ogden, and his colleagues instead.

But please, I'm not trying to preach here to anyone. Whatever you've chosen, I hope it brings you great happiness. I'm just very content in my religion.


Obviously non-Mormon archeologists do not know what they are talking about, seems to be what you're saying. Keep believing in Fairy Tales if it makes you happy. As far as I am concerned, any group that oppresses others, as the LDS church did with the whole Prop 8 fiasco should be avoided like the plague.
 
2010-08-13 12:37:47 AM
teeny: Anonymocoso: There's a link to the letter and the 1982 date here. And more material on the oral sex ban for Mormons.

There is no ban on oral sex. The quotes endorsing a pure, intimate relationship are meant to encourage a healthy relationship on many levels, e.g, don't guilt your wife into shoving a pineapple up her ass because you've always fantasized about it.

Your link lacks credibility, as it does not properly reference the quotes they used.


What about mangos? Or an egg-plant?
 
2010-08-13 01:10:07 AM
Apeleutheros: I don't know why you keep going back to that blanket statement, but okay.

People are people - fickle, hypocritical, reactionary and judgmental. Why would human opinion have sway on my faith? You speak as if the views of individual members somehow reflects the official stance of the church, in which you would be wrong. Church MEMBERS can do whatever they want, including supporting whatever political agendas they want, it doesn't mean "The Church" is for it.

The opinion of a few people doesn't constitute an official stance, no matter how "Mormon" they are or how much money they have or how much press they receive.


You seem to be missing the part where the Church, itself, not just it's members, funded the prop 8 measure through a false front then lied about it. There are citations in this thread with links. Follow your conscious or keep supporting the Church.
 
2010-08-13 02:04:39 AM
Sorry Mormons, you're stuck with Twighlight. Glitter gets everywhere and never, ever washes out.
 
2010-08-13 02:10:44 AM
I've had sort of a fascination for the Mormon religion and the culture around it. I've been to SLC a few times for business, and think SLC is probably one of the more unusual cities in the US due to the influence of the Church, Temple Square and all the Church offices downtown and its seemingly homogenous population.

To be honest, I kind of like its sort of Norman Rockwellesque appearance.... which may or may not be a facade. Everyone seems to walk around Temple Square and the LDS downtown complex looking all wholesome. And outside of my visits, most Mormons I've met are pretty nice folks. Even if they try to convert you it seems fairly polite and benign - like when I was on a plane from SF to SLC and I happened to be sitting next to the director of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and he asked me if I was happy with my life. Heh.

However, the tenets of the religion are a bit too odd for my tastes. I also like coffee, masterbating, people of other races, boxer shorts and R rated movies... so there you have it. Still as religious folks go, they're okay.
 
2010-08-13 02:13:13 AM
Why are Mormon elders obsessed with teenage masturbation?

I was 15 years old, and went to the local bishop's office for an interview to get a recommend to visit the Washington DC temple to baptisms for the dead. (Not that I really believed in that shiat, I just wanted to free trip to DC, LOL)

So there I was, sitting in the bishop's office, when he asks me, "Do you masturbate?" I lied and said no.

But think about it - there was this fat, balding, middle aged guy with horn rimmed glasses, asking a 15 year old boy if he likes to choke the chicken!

The LDS church's obsession with its members' sex lives was one of the reasons I left a year later. They were glad to see me go, too, because I was a threat to the purity of their young people.
 
2010-08-13 02:29:54 AM
SirEattonHogg: However, the tenets of the religion are a bit too odd for my tastes. I also like coffee, masterbating, people of other races, boxer shorts and R rated movies... so there you have it. Still as religious folks go, they're okay.

Yes, they are. But my last friend who was a practicing Mormon had a penchant for crystal meth. I'd go over to his house, see the Book of Mormon and the Mormon Jesus print prominently displayed in his living room, and then we'd be doing bumps in his basement, while his wife and kids were upstairs.

Funny that. The Mormon Word of Wisdom (new window), the proscription against alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine, contains NO bans on weed, cocaine, meth, or heroin use by Church members.
 
2010-08-13 08:29:13 AM
If it's not written in Reformed Egyptian: I don't believe it.
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If it is written in Reformed Egyptian: I don't understand it.

Sooo....
i173.photobucket.com
Since I don't understand what I believe: I do what I want!
 
2010-08-13 09:20:47 AM
teeny

No invisible man, but the God I believe in appreciates proper health and respect for your body, yeah.


How does he appreciate it? By giving you cancer or a heart attack if you're in your 30's or 40's? I know at least two people who were in prime health, ate the right foods, didn't smoke, and were obscenely healthy plus were regular church goers. One died after suffering with cancer for a year and a half, another died of a heart attack.

Saying it was "their time" or using Job as an example isn't really that helpful. The simpler answer is G*d doesn't care what you do with your body. Occam had a point (well, edge).

And outside of the body, the Bible says "Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together." (NIV, Deuteronomy 22:11). So he apparently cares about what I put on. If I wear blended shirts am I doomed to hell?

2,000 year old codes on how to live from the Middle East are just that.

/ Beelzebub's patent attorney
 
2010-08-13 09:57:57 AM
grizzlyjohnson: You think you know what Mormons are about, come live in Utah. In small numbers they are able to seem normal, but when they are in control you find out just how weird they are.

Amen to this. Full on theocracy in force in Utah.

/Live in SLC
//Not Mormon, and don't wear magic underwear.
 
2010-08-13 10:20:16 AM
javaguy78: So, I came here expecting a bunch of persecution against our beliefs, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised at the number of people who are decent enough not to persecute another's beliefs.

Why does it bother you what kind of underwear we wear? Is my choice of underwear going to affect the way you live your life?

I drink pepsi, We don't shun coffee drinkers, we are pretty accepting of others. We even join ridiculous websites such as fark where persecution abounds.

We are normal people who are trying our best to live this life the best we can.


So you can get a Pepsi on BYU's campus now? And a hot cup of joe? Look, I don't care what people believe. That's their deal, and if they want to believe they will be a god in the afterlife and wear magic underwear, good for them.

I have a HUGE problem with discrimination, and the Mormon church is first in line to bash anyone that doesn't fit within the strict confines of their doctrine. Ironic considering they were themselves persecuted...

I would be cool with the live-and-let-live stance, except the Church doesn't follow it... I have no problem with the people, but I have huge issues with a bigoted organization pushing out money and political pressure to restrict the rights of a minority.

/If they think Mitt will ever win a presidential nomination, they are kidding themselves. No theocracy for the US... Monson would be dictating every presidential decision, and everyone knows it.
 
2010-08-13 10:38:55 AM
javaguy78: grizzlyjohnson: That's an interesting thing to say. Here in Utah, it's the Mormons that care about MY choice of underwear. It's pretty easy to see if someone is wearing garments and if you're not you are frequently treated accordingly.

That's a peculiar observation. I live and work in Utah, and have never once treated someone differently based on their choice of underwear or belief system. Frankly I could care less if someone wears boxers, g's or butt floss. The underwear doesn't make the person.

I guess I could understand that kind of behavior in and around the Provo area, where our oppressive brethren tend to reside.


That's 'cause you're part of the "brethren." Try living in SLC while not being Mormon. To say discrimination doesn't happen is a crock of shiat. I've lost out on promotions and jobs before because of the lack of underwear. So have most of my non-Mormon friends. So disingenuous to say it doesn't happen.
 
2010-08-13 10:43:26 AM
Apeleutheros: 1nsanilicious: Killer Cars: Apeleutheros: I went to Oregon.

Serious question: Do you have a choice in where you go/serve?

One of my former coworkers served somewhere in South America (I think Venezuela) but he's a corn-fed cracka' from Idaho. I never asked him directly, but I sure can't fathom him at 18 or so and having never left Boise before saying he'd love to serve all the way down there.

Nope he doesnt get to pick

Good thing too, or else you'd have 250,000 mormon missionaries in Hawaii and Vegas. :)


They can't swim on missions, so I doubt Hawaii is big on the list. Maybe Vegas.
 
2010-08-13 10:47:49 AM
Apeleutheros: elemenopy: I stopped buying their claims of being so big on strong families when I saw one of my mom's friends sitting on the steps of the local LDS temple one day on my way home. She looked extremely distressed, so I stopped to see if she needed help.

Turns out her daughter was getting married in the temple - converted to the church, and because she wasn't a member, she wasn't allowed at her own daughter's wedding. Her only child. The horror and pain on her face told me everything I need to know about their claims of "families are forever."

That apparently only applies if the family is LDS.

Weddings don't happen in the Temple. Sealings do. You still have to go to the county and get a marriage license. I know plenty of people who have had full weddings and then did the Temple Sealing later. Or before, either way. Sounds like she has an insensitive kid that wanted teach her some wierd lesson.

Also, anyone can come into the Temple, you just have to be a member in good standing. No secret agenda.


That is a huge amount of derp. Anyone can come in, as long as that person is a member of the Church and follows all the requirements of said faith. That is laughable. No secret agenda? Ok, explain to me every step of the sealing ceremony. I hate how Mormons claim to be all open and not secretive, but do the exact opposite. How about Blood Oaths?
 
2010-08-13 10:54:42 AM
I'm not typically this forthcoming but given the comments here saying that Mormons focus on the family dynamic I have to say this. My father abandoned me and my brothers 20 years ago. He's never attempted to contact us or made any effort to make amends for what he did. He's now a minister in the Mormon church. So fark Mormons. Fark them and their hypocrisy.
 
2010-08-13 11:19:36 AM
WhiteAndNerdy: rickythepenguin: I've been saying this for a couple of days now.....Dish Network is based in Utah. I venture to guess it is probably -- pure speculation, admittedly -- in some way, connected to the Mormon religion.

I don't know if it's officially connected to the Mormon religion, but huge numbers of Mormon college boys get summer jobs selling satellite dishes door to door. I'm not really sure what the deal is with that, and now you make me wonder if there's some vast conspiracy afoot. Or something.


You misheard them... they actually said "satellites," as in planets. You know, your heavenly reward. Were said salesmen wearing white shirts, black ties, and name badges?
 
2010-08-13 12:39:12 PM
javaguy78: That's a peculiar observation. I live and work in Utah, and have never once treated someone differently based on their choice of underwear or belief system.

The majority of you don't even know you're doing it, it's so ingrained into your culture.
 
2010-08-13 01:38:36 PM
Darth Invictus: Why are Mormon elders obsessed with teenage masturbation?


It's all part of being a closet pedophile.
 
2010-08-13 04:30:38 PM
Morpheses: Ok, explain to me every step of the sealing ceremony.

Well, I'm certainly not going to give the word-for-word narration of the sealing ceremony just because somebody on fark asks for it (if you feel compelled to know, there are plenty of places you can find it), but you'd find it far less interesting, far less scandalous and much shorter than you might expect. It's basically a standard wedding ceremony, except the bride and groom are facing each other, and the language used by the person doing the wedding/sealing is flowery and Biblical. And then it's done, in about 3 minutes or so.

How about Blood Oaths?

Don't do them anymore. I know of them, but I've never seen them.


It's funny to me that people have this idea of the inside of a temple as being scandalous and potentially seditious. My dad once said that the atmosphere inside of a temple reminds him more than anything of being in a funeral home, and I'm not sure I could argue with that.
 
2010-08-13 04:31:45 PM
Morpheses: Apeleutheros: 1nsanilicious: Killer Cars: Apeleutheros: I went to Oregon.

Serious question: Do you have a choice in where you go/serve?

One of my former coworkers served somewhere in South America (I think Venezuela) but he's a corn-fed cracka' from Idaho. I never asked him directly, but I sure can't fathom him at 18 or so and having never left Boise before saying he'd love to serve all the way down there.

Nope he doesnt get to pick

Good thing too, or else you'd have 250,000 mormon missionaries in Hawaii and Vegas. :)

They can't swim on missions, so I doubt Hawaii is big on the list. Maybe Vegas.


Vegas actually has a much higher Mormon population than you might expect.
 
2010-08-13 04:38:55 PM
Anonymocoso: LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie said:

Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions impose on them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God, and his murder of Able being a black skin. . . . Noah's son married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood. . . . the negro are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concern. . . . " (Mormon Doctrine, 527-28; 1966 orig. ed., changed in the current ed.;.


Quoting McConkie isn't as relevant as you might think; despite the name, "Mormon Doctrine" wasn't an officially church-sanctioned book. He developed the book without permission from higher-up church leaders, and after the book's publication, when a study and report of the book was comissioned, the report found over 1000 places where correction was needed. The church leaders decided not to officially condemn McConkie for the book, due to not wanting to embarrass or demean him, but the church also refused to make any claim on the book, even if it were corrected and reprinted (which it eventually was).
 
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