stanhapsburg: He'd still prefer to operate a time machine that would put him back to 2007 when he personally practically eliminated the national forest service, which resulted in getting 70.000 guys, um, fired. Propaganda farknut.

He eliminated the forest service so that he could put the fires out himself.

SnowPEA: http://www.eurasiareview.com/201008076634/putins-destruction-of-forest-service- i n-2007-behind-russias-current-fire-disaster.html

DOH!

"Forest fires never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we"

Pocket Ninja: I think Obama should challenge him to some 1-on-1. Or maybe Horse, if Putin's worried about really mixing it up.



Putin can post up, but Lenin had the outside shot. He would have given Obama some matchup problems.

Nothink but net!

BesiktasBoy83:

Ha that's funny but it's a fake.

You caught me. It was the codpiece that gave it away, huh?

Though I never really realized before how much he looks like Chevy Chase.

Oh yea, well, well can he throw like a girl?

Putin has been doing over-the-top (and often suspect) photo-op bullshiat for some time. I am honestly waiting for the day he declares something crazy like, "I went to the moon" or "I invented helicopters". He's going to go full Stalin if nobody manages to yank the rug out from under him.

hay guys lets ask this guy what he thinks of putin

Diogenes: Pocket Ninja: I think Obama should challenge him to some 1-on-1. Or maybe Horse, if Putin's worried about really mixing it up.

At least we know whose weener is bigger.

/it's twoo! it's twoo!

It would be bad to mention the Alaska Senator who was killed yesterday in a PLANE CRASH, right?

And that this is the main reason world leaders don't usually go about fighting fires, killing sharks, and doing things we normally pay specialists large sums of money to RISK THEIR LIVES FOR, while our leaders stay safely in their offices so they can LEAD THEIR COUNTRIES, right?

So I won't mention it.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: stanhapsburg: He'd still prefer to operate a time machine that would put him back to 2007 when he personally practically eliminated the national forest service, which resulted in getting 70.000 guys, um, fired. Propaganda farknut.

D-Liver: You know what was awesome? When Putin shut off the gas to Georgia, and then the Ukraine! Millions of people didn't have heat and Putin was like, "LOL I are most awesome world leader EVER."

What happened now? Why did these two things happen?

Yeah, Farkers will ignore these posts and keep sucking Putin off...

/sigh

Second Try: jagec: Animatronik:

This is a PR stunt that you are as fooled by as the Russian public.

Fooled? I don't think that most of us see Putin as a great guy to have as your leader. We see him as a badass. You often don't want to put the badass in charge, as they'll proceed to run roughshod over everyone else.

How come that when Putin kills the opposition and destroy surrounding countries he's a badass and when Bush attacks an enemy of his country he's a dumbass?

Just trying to understand the logic here.

I would argue that Bush didn't attack an enemy of his country in Iraq also his efforts in both Afghanistan and Iraq have been rather ineffective or at least perceived as such. You want to do dictator bad ass you scorch and salt the earth. Putin mad you go buh-bye, Bush mad you live in a hole in Pakistan and a totally unrelated country gets attacked.

I can't help it, I think he's hot.

TheBigJerk: He's going to go full Stalin if nobody manages to yank the rug out from under him.

he'd have to get his old job back to really go full Stalin, currently he's prime minister which means he only gets to go so far. It's Medvedev, the president, who really has the power. And I suspect if Vlad went too nuts, Medvedev would rather quickly address the issue and we'd be having a Fark thread about Putin's passing.

tbonejams: hay guys lets ask this guy what he thinks of putin

Moby ?
-nice song, btw

FTFA --

"He took off Tuesday in a Be-200 firefighting plane and then moved into the copilot's seat. Television footage showed him pushing a button to unleash water on blazing forest fires"

THAT is an awesome pilot !!!

/ Is there anything this man can't do ??!!!

A young Putin



Looks a lot like the kid in this

WhyteRaven74: It's Medvedev, the president, who really has the power. And I suspect if Vlad went too nuts, Medvedev would rather quickly address the issue and we'd be having a Fark thread about Putin's passing.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

9/10.

Second Try: jagec: Animatronik:

This is a PR stunt that you are as fooled by as the Russian public.

Fooled? I don't think that most of us see Putin as a great guy to have as your leader. We see him as a badass. You often don't want to put the badass in charge, as they'll proceed to run roughshod over everyone else.

How come that when Putin kills the opposition and destroy surrounding countries he's a badass and when Bush attacks an enemy of his country he's a dumbass?

Just trying to understand the logic here.

Putin's military history isn't what makes him a badass, things like TFA, the tiger he shot, and the KGB angle do. And Bush's initial invasions aren't what make him a dumbass, his colossal mismanagement of both wars, the economy, and pretty much every other aspect of being a president are.

Second Try: jagec: Animatronik:

This is a PR stunt that you are as fooled by as the Russian public.

Fooled? I don't think that most of us see Putin as a great guy to have as your leader. We see him as a badass. You often don't want to put the badass in charge, as they'll proceed to run roughshod over everyone else.

How come that when Putin kills the opposition and destroy surrounding countries he's a badass and when Bush attacks an enemy of his country he's a dumbass?

Just trying to understand the logic here.

You'll notice Putin is not the leader of OUR country, or destroying and killing anything near where WE live. Ukraine and Khazhakstan have very few nice things to say about Putin, I'm sure, nor do the families of those rivals who have died or disappeared.

If he is so concerned about his population being unhappy he should build a coliseum, a cathedral or a temple.

Who's awesome?



I'M awesome

WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] Quote 2010-08-11 07:54:44 PM
A young Putin

(pic)

He looks like Macaulay Culkin in that pic imo.

hey ya know i respect that guy- hold him in higher tegard than any other leader in the last twenty years! almost has a steve mcqueen brand of cool going on.

LectertheChef: LewDux: LectertheChef: Putin cruising around with his biker gang. (new window)

..I want to ride my tricycle, I want to ride my trike..

Yes, the trike is an unfortunate choice, he really should've been on a VMAX. On the other hand, we had George Bush falling off a Segway, and Obama, well, I'm not sure if he's capable of being even as cool as Bush was, which is very very sad.

Obama: The Carlton of Presidents
Though, would you have wanted a Will in the White House?

Second Try: jagec: Animatronik:

This is a PR stunt that you are as fooled by as the Russian public.

Fooled? I don't think that most of us see Putin as a great guy to have as your leader. We see him as a badass. You often don't want to put the badass in charge, as they'll proceed to run roughshod over everyone else.

How come that when Putin kills the opposition and destroy surrounding countries he's a badass and when Bush attacks an enemy of his country he's a dumbass?

Just trying to understand the logic here.


This is FARK; ther is no logic here!

Arcanum: this kind of stuff is pathetic. Russia is pathetic, and so is their 'world leader' who was supposed to not be a leader anymore a while ago.

but he takes his shirt off and flies planes? We laughed a W for that, with good NO reason. It's pathetic.

Russia is inferior.

George W. Bush was an F-102 pilot in the Texas National Guard.
That is a HOT (and scary) airplane.
The reason you laughed, is that you are an ignorant A$$HOLE !

Putin is trying to get the citizens to worship him like a dictator for when the time comes for a military/kgb takeover of Democracy. Be scared that is where a large portion of European natural gas and oil come from.

Gyrfalcon: Second Try: jagec: Animatronik:

This is a PR stunt that you are as fooled by as the Russian public.

Fooled? I don't think that most of us see Putin as a great guy to have as your leader. We see him as a badass. You often don't want to put the badass in charge, as they'll proceed to run roughshod over everyone else.

How come that when Putin kills the opposition and destroy surrounding countries he's a badass and when Bush attacks an enemy of his country he's a dumbass?

Just trying to understand the logic here.

You'll notice Putin is not the leader of OUR country, or destroying and killing anything near where WE live. Ukraine and Khazhakstan have very few nice things to say about Putin, I'm sure, nor do the families of those rivals who have died or disappeared.

Well I think there's also an element of effectiveness perceived or media spun. Putin mad you die. Bush mad you hiding in a hole in Pakistan and a totally unrelated country is attacked. I would also argue that Iraq was not an enemy of the US. Bush also never got his own hands dirty at least not that was acknowledged while Putin at least has given the impression that he's willing to personally lay on the smack down. I wouldn't vote for Putin but he does have that bad ass vibe real or media spun.

Peppermint Rose, I see the future, and you should be careful.

Second Try: jagec: Animatronik:

This is a PR stunt that you are as fooled by as the Russian public.

Fooled? I don't think that most of us see Putin as a great guy to have as your leader. We see him as a badass. You often don't want to put the badass in charge, as they'll proceed to run roughshod over everyone else.

How come that when Putin kills the opposition and destroy surrounding countries he's a badass and when Bush attacks an enemy of his country he's a dumbass?

Just trying to understand the logic here.

Because at his worst, he is still more of a leader than any piece of shiat that we have elected to office in the last 20 years.

A lot of this bare- chested, muscle- flexing Putin stuff reminds me of the pics you see in the history books of Mussolini jogging shirtless on the beach (and making damn sure the photographers have showed up to catch him doing it). Most authoritarian cults of personality work in more or less the same way. The health or strength of the leader is symbolic of the health or strength of the nation.

A weaker form of this is at work in the Western democracies, where it is considered very important that the leader project irrelevant and vaguely- defined qualities that make him or her appealing to the commentariat, such as poise, "class", cool, etc. When's the last time you saw a highly- educated old bald guy become a major world leader? (You'd have to go back to Churchill, who was pre-TV.) Even Sarkozy has to continually live down jibes about his height... we're not immune to this bullsh*t any more than the Russians are, really.

/not Godwinned, because Il Duce was no Nazi
//you don't have to be a Nazi to be dangerous, as Putin is

GranPuro: Because at his worst, he is still more of a leader than any piece of shiat that we have elected to office in the last 20 years.

Please define what you mean here by "more of a leader". It stands to reason that any authoritarian political figure is going to be able to appear stronger and to act more decisively than his Western democratic counterparts. By that measure, Stalin and Mao were the greatest leaders in world history. If I've misunderstood your point, please clarify.

Big Al: Peppermint Rose, I see the future, and you should be careful.

What are we discussing? The fact that my personal life probably doesn't have happily ever after in it? or my views on why Putin is considered bad ass while George Bush isn't?

The first I have acknowledged ad nauseum in this thread and on other threads on fark. Self aware and intelligent do not fix crazy or self-destructive. I acknowledge to one degree or another I am both of those. I can and have made some progress at fixing both of those but I'm not ever going to be "normal" and I don't see a realistic scenario where I don't have any crazy or self-destructive in my personality. People are like tiles you break a human being badly enough they can't be repaired into a functional tile the best you get is a mosaic which can be beautiful and functional but they are more work and do not function like tiles. Mosaic is the best I can realistically achieve and I refuse to stick my head in the sand and insist that I'm a complete and functional tile. The people who do that do more damage to themselves and everyone around them than I do by upfront admitting my shortcomings. Most of my cracks and breaks were caused by people like that that's why flying your freak flag high is more likely to get a positive response from me than trying to present (whether you say it outright or just try to come across that way) yourself as normal and well-adjusted is. I've met some people who really are genuinely well-adjusted nice people but it took me a really, really long time to warm up to them because I kept looking for the hidden hook.

Well at least Obama and Putin get on top of a situation and stay there until there is a resolution. Unlike Bush, Blair, and what'sername - that cow from Alaska.

alltandubh: GranPuro: Because at his worst, he is still more of a leader than any piece of shiat that we have elected to office in the last 20 years.

Please define what you mean here by "more of a leader". It stands to reason that any authoritarian political figure is going to be able to appear stronger and to act more decisively than his Western democratic counterparts. By that measure, Stalin and Mao were the greatest leaders in world history. If I've misunderstood your point, please clarify.

You did not misunderstand me, and what you say is accurate. However, decisive leadership is not impossible in a democratic society. I consider Ronald Reagan a leader, even if I don't agree with everything he did or stood for. Margarete Thatcher was another leader, as was Golda Meir. Gandhi was a leader in my book, and he was no Putin or Stalin. Fidel Castro is probably one of the greatest leaders of our time, as far as pure leadership goes. That does not mean that I would want to live under his leadership. Leadership is neutral, it is neither good nor bad. How a leader uses his / her gift determines whether or not they achieve fame or infamy.

Peppermint Rose: Big Al: Peppermint Rose, I see the future, and you should be careful.

What are we discussing? The fact that my personal life probably doesn't have happily ever after in it? or my views on why Putin is considered bad ass while George Bush isn't?

The first I have acknowledged ad nauseum in this thread and on other threads on fark. Self aware and intelligent do not fix crazy or self-destructive. I acknowledge to one degree or another I am both of those. I can and have made some progress at fixing both of those but I'm not ever going to be "normal" and I don't see a realistic scenario where I don't have any crazy or self-destructive in my personality. People are like tiles you break a human being badly enough they can't be repaired into a functional tile the best you get is a mosaic which can be beautiful and functional but they are more work and do not function like tiles. Mosaic is the best I can realistically achieve and I refuse to stick my head in the sand and insist that I'm a complete and functional tile. The people who do that do more damage to themselves and everyone around them than I do by upfront admitting my shortcomings. Most of my cracks and breaks were caused by people like that that's why flying your freak flag high is more likely to get a positive response from me than trying to present (whether you say it outright or just try to come across that way) yourself as normal and well-adjusted is. I've met some people who really are genuinely well-adjusted nice people but it took me a really, really long time to warm up to them because I kept looking for the hidden hook.

I think I like you.

http://www.superheromarketing.net/wp-content/uploads/arnold_governator.jpg
Approves.

Second Try: jagec: Animatronik:

This is a PR stunt that you are as fooled by as the Russian public.

Fooled? I don't think that most of us see Putin as a great guy to have as your leader. We see him as a badass. You often don't want to put the badass in charge, as they'll proceed to run roughshod over everyone else.

How come that when Putin kills the opposition and destroy surrounding countries he's a badass and when Bush attacks an enemy of his country he's a dumbass?

Just trying to understand the logic here.

Putin is the guy who steps down and controls the country from the shadows. He does positive photo ops like capturing tigers or diving down to the bottom of a lake, while the real President has to deal with day to day stuff. Bush is the guy who says 'He tried to kill my daddy!' and starts a war. He choked on a pretzel and hit his head or something. Bush is the wrong guy to compare Putin to.

Putin is like Cheney, if Cheney were President, more fit and a little younger. Dick Cheney is the only person I know that shot a man in the face, and the man APOLOGIZED to him for getting in the way, on national tv. Dick Cheney made the Office of the Vice President UNTOUCHABLE. He controls, from the shadows of influence, the only private company qualified to handle certain official government business. He has been the Defense Secretary, VP, White House Chief of Staff, and has overseen BOTH wars in Iraq AND the private company providing support. He is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands, and he knows it. He's the baddest mofo in America, as far as I'm concerned.

Just like he personally had political opponents imprisoned.

Peppermint Rose Quote 2010-08-11 10:02:52 PM

What are we discussing? The fact that my personal life probably doesn't have happily ever after in it? or my views on why Putin is considered bad ass while George Bush isn't?

The first I have acknowledged ad nauseum in this thread and on other threads on fark. Self aware and intelligent do not fix crazy or self-destructive. I acknowledge to one degree or another I am both of those. I can and have made some progress at fixing both of those but I'm not ever going to be "normal" and I don't see a realistic scenario where I don't have any crazy or self-destructive in my personality. People are like tiles you break a human being badly enough they can't be repaired into a functional tile the best you get is a mosaic which can be beautiful and functional but they are more work and do not function like tiles. Mosaic is the best I can realistically achieve and I refuse to stick my head in the sand and insist that I'm a complete and functional tile. The people who do that do more damage to themselves and everyone around them than I do by upfront admitting my shortcomings. Most of my cracks and breaks were caused by people like that that's why flying your freak flag high is more likely to get a positive response from me than trying to present (whether you say it outright or just try to come across that way) yourself as normal and well-adjusted is. I've met some people who really are genuinely well-adjusted nice people but it took me a really, really long time to warm up to them because I kept looking for the hidden hook.

>>>

but seriously, tell me how you really feel?

I don't claim to be normal, I just tried to say that self destructive streak, especially with bad relationships, is dangerous.

Jakevol2: Surool: Bravely, Putin touched the control yoke of the aircraft while it remained in the vice-like grip of the real pilot.

Damn it! I swore to Allah I wouldn't read slash/fic ever again

Thank you. You two win the thread. XD

They say you can read a man's soul in his eyes. If that's the case:

Vladimir Putin:



Heinrich Himmler:



Jeffrey Dahmer:


These men are all related.

Peppermint Rose: A serial killer (in general) kills to act out a psychodrama and that's the end goal to kill a person (usually of a type) in a specific way. You get the sense that someone like Putin or some of the guys I know kills to get something else, remove an obstacle to their plans or because they are angry with the specific person.

I hadn't thought of it that way. It makes sense, though. Like the difference between Hannibal Lecter and Jack Bauer. Lecter tortured people because he got off on it. End discussion. Bauer tortured people out of 'necessity' but if he didn't have to do it, he wouldn't and would go out of his way not to do it unless he thought it was the only way to get to his real objective.

I hope your friend is getting the help he needs. And I apologize for mixing you up with the other young woman. You didn't have to explain about how you protect yourself from yourself, online, but I understand; and I admire you for being proactive about it instead of tempting fate.

WhyteRaven74: TheBigJerk: He's going to go full Stalin if nobody manages to yank the rug out from under him.

he'd have to get his old job back to really go full Stalin, currently he's prime minister which means he only gets to go so far. It's Medvedev, the president, who really has the power. And I suspect if Vlad went too nuts, Medvedev would rather quickly address the issue and we'd be having a Fark thread about Putin's passing.

I'm still of the belief that if he got out of hand, Medvedev would sit down and shut up. Remember that Putin actually kept his old seat. Add to this his cradle-robbing marriage to a contortionist/supermodel, his photo-ops and stories that are downright vaudevillian (in their "super-hero" antics. Putin is the Kingpin of the world's largest kleptocracy. I half expect him to put on a white suit and change his name to Wilson Fisk.

It is not like he hides this shiat either. He has enemies poisoned with polonium or shot in the head SPECIFICALLY to make an example of them, and leave no question to anyone concerned that yes, he CAN kill you and no, there is nothing you can do about it.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe whatever opponents of his are still alive and whatever sycophants surround him would stop him if he, "went too far," but I just don't believe it.

I don't even habeeb it.

Only a few of you noticed the parallels between Putin's actions and our cocky yet retarded former President. GW flew a trainer jet during Vietnam, when he was actually at the National Guard base, not AWOL.
In 1994,GW flew onto a carrier deck in the co-pilots seat, then announced the war on Iraq was over. Putin actually flew a plane and actually helped his country.

Big Al:

but seriously, tell me how you really feel?

I don't claim to be normal, I just tried to say that self destructive streak, especially with bad relationships, is dangerous.

Yes I had this weird urge to share my own little personal drama with random internet strangers today. Not sure why. Oh well now you all know far, far more about me than you probably ever wanted to know about a random internet stranger. Just believe I'm a fictional alt then it's just a weird story some poor geek in his mom's basement made up to get attention then it's just a story although not Shakespeare it's at least somewhat diverting.

Peppermint Rose: Big Al:

but seriously, tell me how you really feel?

I don't claim to be normal, I just tried to say that self destructive streak, especially with bad relationships, is dangerous.

Yes I had this weird urge to share my own little personal drama with random internet strangers today. Not sure why. Oh well now you all know far, far more about me than you probably ever wanted to know about a random internet stranger. Just believe I'm a fictional alt then it's just a weird story some poor geek in his mom's basement made up to get attention then it's just a story although not Shakespeare it's at least somewhat diverting.

TITS OR GTFO

LULZ KILL YOURSELF

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