Old news is so exciting.

Second greatest liberal plant ever. So good he doesn't even know he is one.

/Palin still the best

Rand Paul, /b/

i like him.

WTF Indeed: Second greatest liberal plant ever. So good he doesn't even know he is one.

/Palin still the best

Randchurian Candidate?

WTF Indeed: /Palin still the best

And that is why you fail.

Who says Rand Paul needs to shut the hell up and leave politics to better men (*snerk*)? THIS GUY

"I choose to use a different phrase to describe my beliefs - I consider myself a constitutional conservative, which I take to mean a conservative who actually believes in smaller government and more individual freedom, unless you're a woman, in which case I believe in larger government and less individual freedom."

I love drag queens too!!!

"This departure from the limited government envisioned by the Founders has encouraged too many Americans to forget their heritage of freedom."

Area Man Passionate Defender of What He Imagines Constitution to Be

Kazan: For Ron so loved the Ayn Rand that he named his one son after her.

are we sure that's not the case?

tallguywithglasseson: I consider myself a constitutional conservative

I consider him a neo-confederate minarchist.

I consider him a Libertarian nut case.

tallguywithglasseson: I consider myself a constitutional conservative

I consider him a neo-confederate minarchist.

I consider my El Camino totally badass!

*high-five*

"Smaller government and more individual freedom" = make abortions illegal and don't allow gays to marry?

How's that keeping the government out of the lives of real Americans working out for ya?

Strength is peace. Competition is cooperation. Feudalism is democracy.

I don't know about this Rand Paul. But I do know Rand McNally could show us the way!

Actually, Rand Paul pretty much says he IS a libertarian, but that he doesn't use the word to describe himself because most folks don't actually know what the word means.

Which is true.

naptapper: Wow, the hatred on this thread should be awesome. Sadly, I like Rand Paul. I like new ideas.

Do your new ideas come with a free steam engine?

Electriclectic: Randchurian Candidate?

It's the plan of Duke to take over the country and make UNC illegal.

/Duke Sucks

The federal government should not do what the states can do for themselves, the states should not do what local governments can do for themselves, and local governments should not do what families, faith groups and individuals can do for themselves.

////that right there.

bolded for emphasis.

slashes for style

nosferatublue: Actually, Rand Paul pretty much says he IS a libertarian, but that he doesn't use the word to describe himself because most folks don't actually know what the word means.

Yes we do, it means someone who is utterly ignorant of all history, knows nothing about the founding fathers, has not read the Jefferson archives or the Federalist Papers, and is a buffoon.

nosferatublue: Actually, Rand Paul pretty much says he IS a libertarian, but that he doesn't use the word to describe himself because most folks don't actually know what the word means.

Which is true.

Liberal, libertarian, whatever.

I can never stop laughing at the new, self-labeled "constitutional conservative". Simple translation: I'm a life-long Republican who self-identified as neoconservative until I (very recently) became ashamed of voting Bush/Cheney twice.

This new breed also:

-- claims to be fiscally conservative (but supported $3 trillion dollars in war spending).
-- thinks the US Constitution should remain unchanged for the next eleventy billion years, until someone proposes changing the 14th amendment.

I don't know how they survive the mental gymnastics they perform each election cycle.

I'd hate to have anyone digging around in my past during my twenties.

RIP Rand

naptapper: Sadly, I like Rand Paul.

Yea, that is pretty sad. Pathetic seems to fit better. Do you really think he has any new ideas? It just seems like a tired rehash of hatred and bigotry.

Rue Paul.

/And Kentucky will.
//Yes, indeedy do.

Rand Paul the "constitutional conservative" on abortion:

I would strongly support legislation restricting federal courts from hearing cases like Roe v. Wade. Such legislation would only require a majority vote, making it more likely to pass than a pro-life constitutional amendment.

I suppose the followup constitutional gymnastics trick would be having congress passing a law restricting federal courts from finding the previous law unconstitutional.

Pollexabator: I can never stop laughing at the new, self-labeled "constitutional conservative". Simple translation: I'm a life-long Republican who self-identified as neoconservative until I (very recently) became ashamed of voting Bush/Cheney twice.

Pretty much this. The label is for people who are too stupid to be actual Libertarians, who themselves are too stupid to be actually intellectually superficial.

Rand Paul stands firmly for your liberty to keep the darkies out of your store, and to destroy the environment with your mountain top coal mines. What other liberties could you need beyond that?

Brett Favre?

wraithmare: "Smaller government and more individual freedom" = make abortions illegal and don't allow gays to marry?

How's that keeping the government out of the lives of real Americans working out for ya?

As a republican, my stance on those issues is this: leave it up to the states. Is Massachusetts wants abo-abos and gays marrying, knock yourselves out.

Its that whole federalism thing.

kevinatilusa: I suppose the followup constitutional gymnastics trick would be having congress passing a law restricting federal courts from finding the previous law unconstitutional.

But what happens if the courts disallow the legislative branch entirely? What then? Ha HA!

FTFA

Our Founding Fathers were clearly libertarians, and constructed a Republic with strict limits on government power designed to protect the rights and freedom of the citizens above all else.

Our founding fathers were clearly politicians with very different visions about the proper role of government, about which they fought for decades.

Several changed their opinons over time, usually in the direction of greater government authority.

Read a damn book, Rand.

wraithmare: How's that keeping the government out of the lives of real Americans working out for ya?

You see, it all depends on how you define "real Americans" and to many of the neoconservativesnew-libertarians, it doesn't include heathen fornicating baby killers or teh gheys.

So, sadly, they apparently suffer little to no cognitive dissonance.

Biness: As a republican, my stance on those issues is this: leave it up to the states. Is Massachusetts wants abo-abos and gays marrying, knock yourselves out.

And if Alabama wants to prevent blacks from going to the polls, great.

bigdavediode: nosferatublue: Actually, Rand Paul pretty much says he IS a libertarian, but that he doesn't use the word to describe himself because most folks don't actually know what the word means.

Yes we do, it means someone who is utterly ignorant of all history, knows nothing about the founding fathers, has not read the Jefferson archives or the Federalist Papers, and is a buffoon.

Holy crap, does that happen every time you open your mouth?

Kazan: For Ron so loved the Ayn Rand that he named his one son after her.

His name is Randy. Rand Paul himself decided to shorten his name after the writer.

/The more you know.

interluder: RIP Rand

Damn, their money has LIONS on it? Thats pretty hardcore, straight up real lioncash. We need some more awesome things like.. uh, bears or something on our money. Thats it, I am so running for president. If I am elected I promise to put awesome stuff on our monies.

nosferatublue: Holy crap, does that happen every time you open your mouth?

Alright, so tell us your insight of the Federalist Papers -- what basic themes did they hit?

Biness: As a republican, my stance on those issues is this: leave it up to the states. Is Massachusetts wants abo-abos and gays marrying, knock yourselves out.

Its that whole federalism thing.

That's fine. What bugs me is when people who call themselves "libertarians" still think the state governments should have the right to interfere with your lives. And that includes much of Paul's "vast coalition of Americans" that "share many libertarian beliefs".

Biness: wraithmare: "Smaller government and more individual freedom" = make abortions illegal and don't allow gays to marry?

How's that keeping the government out of the lives of real Americans working out for ya?

As a republican, my stance on those issues is this: leave it up to the states. Is Massachusetts wants abo-abos and gays marrying, knock yourselves out.

Its that whole federalism thing.

Of cou4rse, as a god constitutional conservative you want states that don't allow gay marriage to legally recognize the gay marriages of the states that do, right?

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

The Homer Tax: Biness: As a republican, my stance on those issues is this: leave it up to the states. Is Massachusetts wants abo-abos and gays marrying, knock yourselves out.

Its that whole federalism thing.

As a Republican, you must not understand what the 14th Amendment to the Constitution is...

Sure he does - it's what makes anchor babies. Oh wait, that's just the first sentence. Oh well, I'm sure there's nothing important in the rest of it.

The Homer Tax: IOW, He's what I call "A Republican."

Or an "asshole."

nosferatublue: Actually, Rand Paul pretty much says he IS a libertarian, but that he doesn't use the word to describe himself because most folks don't actually know what the word means.

Which is true.