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(BBC)   Germany closes extremist mosque where 9/11 plotters met before their attack roughly nine years too late   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 41
    More: Interesting, Hamburg, German police, World Trade Center, mosques, Islamism, suicide attacks, military training, interior ministry  
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2010-08-09 10:41:40 AM  
It's being rebuilt in NY
 
2010-08-09 10:41:46 AM  
Thanks Germany. I thought you guys were famous for doing things very quickly. Like lightning.
 
2010-08-09 10:42:46 AM  
Oh, good. We can get the troops out of Afghanistan now.
 
2010-08-09 10:43:01 AM  
Part of me wants to go: "Sieg Heil!" at the new loss of freedoms in the world, and the other agrees with the subby's sentiment: At this point, why bother?

Also, just because some turrists met there, is it really a bad joint?
 
2010-08-09 10:45:26 AM  
This doesn't bode well for Muslims who aren't involved in the whole terror thing & just want somewhere to hang out & do their whole Islam thing
 
2010-08-09 10:46:31 AM  
MortalComedy: It's being was rebuilt in NY the Pentagon

Open your eyes, sheeple.
 
2010-08-09 10:48:18 AM  
Nein-eleven?
 
2010-08-09 10:50:47 AM  
This doesn't bode well for Muslims who aren't involved in the whole terror thing & just want somewhere to hang out & do their whole Islam thing to celebrate the deaths of thousands of innocent citizens.

FTFY
 
2010-08-09 10:52:23 AM  
Islam: Religion of Peace™
 
2010-08-09 10:53:22 AM  
schattenteufel: This doesn't bode well for Muslims who aren't involved in the whole terror thing & just want somewhere to hang out & do their whole Islam thing

It doesn't bode well for flying unicorns either but I'm not lamenting for nonexistent creatures.
 
2010-08-09 10:57:53 AM  
Mosques connected to terrorism? Not possible, they're places of peaceful worship of...something.
 
2010-08-09 11:00:07 AM  
Is subby saying that the attacks should have happened in 1992?
 
2010-08-09 11:04:26 AM  
www.andrewcusack.com
 
2010-08-09 11:04:51 AM  
A mosque being used by terrorists? Never saw that one coming.
 
2010-08-09 11:04:56 AM  
Sounds like Germany was harboring terrorists and you know what that means.
 
2010-08-09 11:07:58 AM  
Funny how we didn't invade Germany over this...

oh, wait...
 
2010-08-09 11:08:13 AM  
HumbleGenius: Nein-eleven?

Zing? ZING!
 
2010-08-09 11:09:07 AM  
Didn't the Arabs actually offer to side with Hitler in WWII? I wonder what a few million suicide bombers and all that oil would have done for the Germans?
 
2010-08-09 11:10:30 AM  
I'm not an expert, but um....

IF i was running the German intelligence service...(and i am not, for variety of really god reasons) i would probably try to put the place under surveillance, and all the people who came and went from there, and i would probably try and get a couple of people in there to penetrate the place... As opposed to shutting it down outright and driving anyone of interest further underground or away from meeting with their contacts/further plotting.

Why not be smart about it, avoid further alienation of the rest of the community that had nothing to do with the plot and maybe just maybe pick up on some other/follow on plans...

...once the horse is out of the barn and all that...

...just saying.
 
2010-08-09 11:10:43 AM  
Great. Now they'll all be gathering and conspiring at the Ground Zero Mosque. You know, the one being built to give us some imagined idea of immunity.
 
2010-08-09 11:12:19 AM  
StarshipPooper: Didn't the Arabs actually offer to side with Hitler in WWII? I wonder what a few million suicide bombers and all that oil would have done for the Germans?

"the Arabs" are hardly a unity. Better to say "Arabs". But it was the contrary, the Germans tried to get Arab tribes to work for them, in order to keep British troops tied down in their rear.
 
2010-08-09 11:13:10 AM  
StarshipPooper: Didn't the Arabs actually offer to side with Hitler in WWII?

This one did.
 
2010-08-09 11:26:46 AM  
Ugh.

FTA:

"We have closed the mosque because it was a recruiting and meeting point for Islamic radicals who wanted to participate in so-called jihad or holy war," said Frank Reschreiter, a spokesman for Hamburg's state interior ministry.
...
There was no announcement of any arrests


So even though they couldn't pinpoint any one person doing anything considered illegal, at least, not enough to warrant an arrest, they shut down the building itself.

You know, because that's going to 'fix' the problem. If you take away the terrorist clubhouse, they will be completely unable to communicate with each other, and will suddenly be transformed into useful members of society.

This smacks of religious intolerance, and that's coming from an atheist. This is no different than how black owned facilities were pushed out of existence during much of the history of the south.

I'd have thought that of all the people out there, the Germans at least would be the most careful about appearing to be tolerant of religions.

*sigh*

/ Couldn't complain if they treated all religions like this
// It'd be both equitable AND fair.
 
2010-08-09 11:28:10 AM  
They closed down the wrong place. Here are the correct co-ordinates.

32° 6' N 34° 47' E
 
2010-08-09 11:29:47 AM  
Who was that mosqued man?
 
2010-08-09 11:30:30 AM  
U.Betcher Associates: I'm not an expert, but um....

IF i was running the German intelligence service...(and i am not, for variety of really god reasons) i would probably try to put the place under surveillance, and all the people who came and went from there, and i would probably try and get a couple of people in there to penetrate the place... As opposed to shutting it down outright and driving anyone of interest further underground or away from meeting with their contacts/further plotting.

Why not be smart about it, avoid further alienation of the rest of the community that had nothing to do with the plot and maybe just maybe pick up on some other/follow on plans...

...once the horse is out of the barn and all that...

...just saying.


I have a feeling they've been doing that for the last 9 years or so. My guess is the well is dry at this point.
 
2010-08-09 11:39:49 AM  
False flag, Israel, Money Laundering, Controlled Demolition, New American Century.
 
2010-08-09 12:16:13 PM  
wee beastie: U.Betcher Associates: I'm not an expert, but um....

IF i was running the German intelligence service...(and i am not, for variety of really god reasons) i would probably try to put the place under surveillance, and all the people who came and went from there, and i would probably try and get a couple of people in there to penetrate the place... As opposed to shutting it down outright and driving anyone of interest further underground or away from meeting with their contacts/further plotting.

Why not be smart about it, avoid further alienation of the rest of the community that had nothing to do with the plot and maybe just maybe pick up on some other/follow on plans...

...once the horse is out of the barn and all that...

...just saying.

I have a feeling they've been doing that for the last 9 years or so. My guess is the well is dry at this point.


Agreed, i was more responding to those suggesting it ought to have been boarded up immediately.
 
2010-08-09 12:17:39 PM  
The German government also collects a church tax and portions are given out to various "public law official" churches (Catholic, Protestant, Jewish), in addition to having something like tax-exempt status for churches.

The article doesn't say what status the mosque had before, and what it is now.

In some German states, Othodox Jewish congregations are "official" in others, Reform congregations. The offical ones get the tax money. It may be the same with moslem congregations.

But the article doesn't say whether it's a tax issue, like the IRS lifting the Christian Coalition's exemption for its political activity, or whether the mosque became so dangerous it was closed.

Usually in collecting intelligence it's better to keep things open and heavily observed. Closing that peephole is serious.
 
2010-08-09 12:18:16 PM  
gbv23: False flag, Israel, Money Laundering, Controlled Demolition, New American Century.

The dingbats have arrived!!

tell us more!! got any opinions on UFOs? the moon landings? JFKs assassin? please enlighten us with your thoroughly disproven babbling bullshiat!
 
2010-08-09 12:18:56 PM  
U.Betcher Associates: I'm not an expert, but um....

IF i was running the German intelligence service...(and i am not, for variety of really god reasons) i would probably try to put the place under surveillance, and all the people who came and went from there, and i would probably try and get a couple of people in there to penetrate the place... As opposed to shutting it down outright and driving anyone of interest further underground or away from meeting with their contacts/further plotting.

Why not be smart about it, avoid further alienation of the rest of the community that had nothing to do with the plot and maybe just maybe pick up on some other/follow on plans...

...once the horse is out of the barn and all that...

...just saying.


Dont bring logic to a fark thread, write that 100 times on the white board please.
 
2010-08-09 12:42:54 PM  
StarshipPooper: Didn't the Arabs actually offer to side with Hitler in WWII? I wonder what a few million suicide bombers and all that oil would have done for the Germans?

Suicide bombing wouldn't have been as effective in that era, Muslim warriors never killed civilians until they learned to from watching Christians bomb Dresden and Hiroshima. By then it too late for the Germans.
 
2010-08-09 12:52:49 PM  
U.Betcher Associates: gbv23: False flag, Israel, Money Laundering, Controlled Demolition, New American Century.

The dingbats have arrived!!

tell us more!! got any opinions on UFOs? the moon landings? JFKs assassin? please enlighten us with your thoroughly disproven babbling bullshiat!


Monkeys aren't real.
 
2010-08-09 01:40:56 PM  
Germany: Land of Tolerance. (tm)
 
2010-08-09 02:56:11 PM  
Observatory: They closed down the wrong place. Here are the correct co-ordinates.

32° 6' N 34° 47' E


Bonei Hair 1-9
Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel
 
2010-08-09 02:56:58 PM  
Cynical 0: Observatory: They closed down the wrong place. Here are the correct co-ordinates.

32° 6' N 34° 47' E

Bonei Hair 1-9
Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel


Oh man! I said Israel, here comes Tats
 
2010-08-09 03:06:51 PM  
You know who else like to shut down places of worship?
 
2010-08-09 03:28:02 PM  
Well, gee, now that this mosque is closed all those Islamists will just have to go back to school and become productive citizens instead of hatching evil plots all day.
 
2010-08-09 03:45:49 PM  
The Wizard of Frobozz: schattenteufel: This doesn't bode well for Muslims who aren't involved in the whole terror thing & just want somewhere to hang out & do their whole Islam thing

It doesn't bode well for flying unicorns either but I'm not lamenting for nonexistent creatures.



Yeah. You're an idiot.
 
2010-08-09 03:47:50 PM  
Gish21: Well, gee, now that this mosque is closed all those Islamists will just have to go back to school and become productive citizens instead of hatching evil plots all day.

rocketdock.com
 
2010-08-09 03:52:55 PM  
schattenteufel: The Wizard of Frobozz: schattenteufel: This doesn't bode well for Muslims who aren't involved in the whole terror thing & just want somewhere to hang out & do their whole Islam thing

It doesn't bode well for flying unicorns either but I'm not lamenting for nonexistent creatures.


Yeah. You're an idiot.


I'm not the one taking posts on Fark seriously.
 
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