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(Fox News)   BP says that now that the well has been sealed, they are ready to explore alternative fuels. Nah, just kidding. They're ready to drill again. In the same spot. They're sure there's some oil left   (foxnews.com) divider line 214
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2010-08-06 04:19:13 PM
Somacandra: Wasn't that part of the idea for the relief well in the first place: to drink up the old well's milkshake?

You win the award for the first correct post.

:D

web.mit.edu
 
2010-08-06 04:19:27 PM
rodeofrog: I guess the laws of physics demand that I put all my groceries in plastic shells and drive myself home in my H3?

I = F*t = m*a*t

H3 = big m = small a

So yes, yes they do.
 
2010-08-06 04:20:18 PM
I'm not defending the past actions of BP, etc etc, but the problem is with the well, not the field. I'm betting they sell it anyway, god save them if the new well ever leaked.
 
2010-08-06 04:20:24 PM
So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?
 
2010-08-06 04:20:56 PM
Welfare Xmas: rodeofrog: I guess the laws of physics demand that I put all my groceries in plastic shells and drive myself home in my H3?

I = F*t = m*a*t

H3 = big m = small a

So yes, yes they do.


You fart meat? That must smell interesting.
 
2010-08-06 04:21:24 PM
Look, I understand how economics and capitalism work; hell, I'm a Republican.

That being said - drilling into that reserve again ANYWHERE in the near future would be about the biggest scumbag slap in the face to the residents of that coastline you could possibly imagine.

"We know we farked up your environment for the next 100 years or so, but....we've decided we're still going to find a way to profit off ot it."

The only way I would be OK with this is if the well drilling was absolutely scrutinized every step of the way by every relavent agency around AND the profit from every ounce of oil recovered was used to spend the next 60 years cleaning and filtering the gulf waters and beaches. The remaining money, if there's any left, would be paid out to each and every person whose lives were affected by the spill (much like the Alaskan Permanent Fund).
 
2010-08-06 04:21:27 PM
With all due respect to BP, I say: You Can't Farking Drill There Anymore.

That's it boys, you lost your chance. The well goes to someone else.

Basically I don't care if the same reservior is tapped, just not by BP after this massive clusterfark.
 
2010-08-06 04:21:34 PM
TheIndependent: Horny masseuses or whore mistresses, their titles may have change slightly, but the "occupation" was/is the same.

To be fair you don't really want to claim all masseuses are whores. That was really the basic mistake made by Al.
 
2010-08-06 04:21:57 PM
rodeofrog: TheIndependent: rodeofrog: About 10 years ago, I wondered aloud, "what will it take for America to stop with all the oil, and really explore alternative sources of energy?"

Thank you, BP, for reminding us that we still have yet to hit rock bottom.

Everyone will need to be high enough to believe that the laws of physics don't really apply anymore.

I guess the laws of physics demand that I put all my groceries in plastic shells and drive myself home in my H3?


You first spoke about alternative energy which is generally governed by physical properties. How much energy can you get/transport from 1 billion solar cells vs. 1 nuclear power plant? How far does your Volt go on a full charge verses a full tank of gas?
 
2010-08-06 04:22:08 PM
Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?


Those things suCK ANYWAYS! THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND DON'T SCRATCH THAT ITCH THE SAME WAY A SMOOTH CAMEL COULD!
 
2010-08-06 04:22:42 PM
Headso: Dancin_In_Anson: The-Brain: Where does the line form for BP exec cockpunches?

Because....?

They are more negligent than other oil companies and they treated our shores with an imperialistic attitude.


To be fair it's not just our shores; they tend to live up to the "British" portion of their name.
 
2010-08-06 04:24:07 PM
RowdyPants: How about "no" BP?

You say "no", they hear "go ahead".

I think you'll need to make them understand. I recommend a Remington, to drive the point home.
 
2010-08-06 04:25:06 PM
Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels??

I seem to remember many ads by bp about how exploring alternative fuels was one of their missions.
 
2010-08-06 04:26:11 PM
Satanicpuppy: Um, so what? What is that oil field now a magical special oilfield that can never be drilled again? It's not like there aren't tons of other potential spills waiting to happen in the gulf.

We use oil. Deal with it.


How about not allowing BP to drill it, but rather a company that didn't fark up epically. As in, pretty much any of the others that operate in the Gulf.
 
2010-08-06 04:26:16 PM
Did you guys really think this spill would stop drilling?

I hope we can discover the secrets to Mario's superb jumping skills. I'd love to hop hop and away to work!
 
2010-08-06 04:27:04 PM
HomerSamson113: Look, I understand how economics and capitalism work; hell, I'm a Republican.

That being said - drilling into that reserve again ANYWHERE in the near future would be about the biggest scumbag slap in the face to the residents of that coastline you could possibly imagine.

"We know we farked up your environment for the next 100 years or so, but....we've decided we're still going to find a way to profit off ot it."

The only way I would be OK with this is if the well drilling was absolutely scrutinized every step of the way by every relavent agency around AND the profit from every ounce of oil recovered was used to spend the next 60 years cleaning and filtering the gulf waters and beaches. The remaining money, if there's any left, would be paid out to each and every person whose lives were affected by the spill (much like the Alaskan Permanent Fund).


113?
 
2010-08-06 04:27:25 PM
misanthropic1: Headso: Dancin_In_Anson: The-Brain: Where does the line form for BP exec cockpunches?

Because....?

They are more negligent than other oil companies and they treated our shores with an imperialistic attitude.

To be fair it's not just our shores; they tend to live up to the "British" portion of their name.


yeah but we are not some third world shiathole, the audacity to do that here is insane to me, but you have jerkoffs saying "because...?" in this thread so after their oil facial, like a true slut they ask for more. Based on that they judged their risk just fine, "conservatives" will defend them to the end.
 
2010-08-06 04:28:47 PM
USA USA USA
 
2010-08-06 04:29:31 PM
Headso: misanthropic1: Headso: Dancin_In_Anson: The-Brain: Where does the line form for BP exec cockpunches?

Because....?

They are more negligent than other oil companies and they treated our shores with an imperialistic attitude.

To be fair it's not just our shores; they tend to live up to the "British" portion of their name.

yeah but we are not some third world shiathole, the audacity to do that here is insane to me, but you have jerkoffs saying "because...?" in this thread so after their oil facial, like a true slut they ask for more. Based on that they judged their risk just fine, "conservatives" will defend them to the end.


You may want to ease up on the internet porn, buddy.
 
2010-08-06 04:31:30 PM
Douchebag Warehouse: Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?

Those things suCK ANYWAYS! THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND DON'T SCRATCH THAT ITCH THE SAME WAY A SMOOTH CAMEL COULD!


You could try drops of liquid nicotine on an exposed patch of skin.

//don't actually try this
//you will die
 
2010-08-06 04:31:51 PM
Stanfan114: Headso: misanthropic1: Headso: Dancin_In_Anson: The-Brain: Where does the line form for BP exec cockpunches?

Because....?

They are more negligent than other oil companies and they treated our shores with an imperialistic attitude.

To be fair it's not just our shores; they tend to live up to the "British" portion of their name.

yeah but we are not some third world shiathole, the audacity to do that here is insane to me, but you have jerkoffs saying "because...?" in this thread so after their oil facial, like a true slut they ask for more. Based on that they judged their risk just fine, "conservatives" will defend them to the end.

You may want to ease up on the internet porn, buddy.


HE MAKES A VERY ADULTEROUS POINT, EH COMRADE!
 
2010-08-06 04:32:15 PM
TheIndependent: rodeofrog: TheIndependent: rodeofrog: About 10 years ago, I wondered aloud, "what will it take for America to stop with all the oil, and really explore alternative sources of energy?"

Thank you, BP, for reminding us that we still have yet to hit rock bottom.

Everyone will need to be high enough to believe that the laws of physics don't really apply anymore.

I guess the laws of physics demand that I put all my groceries in plastic shells and drive myself home in my H3?

You first spoke about alternative energy which is generally governed by physical properties. How much energy can you get/transport from 1 billion solar cells vs. 1 nuclear power plant? How far does your Volt go on a full charge verses a full tank of gas?


I addressed 2 things: (1) stop with all the oil; (2) explore alternative energy sources.

I don't know the answers to your questions or what verses you are singing. As another poster noted, I suppose I'm just dreaming of unicorn fart generators while, as you proposed, I am high. Funny, though, that bp itself has a division that is dedicated to alternative energy. I wonder if those guys are high all the time, harnessing unicorn farts.
 
2010-08-06 04:32:23 PM
Last time I checked they're an oil company. This is what oil companies do. Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
2010-08-06 04:32:41 PM
Welfare Xmas: Douchebag Warehouse: Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?

Those things suCK ANYWAYS! THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND DON'T SCRATCH THAT ITCH THE SAME WAY A SMOOTH CAMEL COULD!

You could try drops of liquid nicotine on an exposed patch of skin.

//don't actually try this
//you will die


WE'LL JUST SEE ABOUT THAT!
 
2010-08-06 04:33:32 PM
Weird stance by BP. Because the other thousands of wells in the Gulf were all abandoned and the companies started producing bicycles.
 
2010-08-06 04:33:48 PM
Headso: yeah but we are not some third world shiathole, the audacity to do that here is insane to me, but you have jerkoffs saying "because...?" in this thread so after their oil facial, like a true slut they ask for more. Based on that they judged their risk just fine, "conservatives" will defend them to the end.

To be fair, money buys loyalty and protection. They'll spend for their right to drill, and we will do nothing.

Unless someone has the brilliant idea to get these guys in their most vulnerable moment, and shoot them dead. Then it's on.
 
2010-08-06 04:34:24 PM
Douchebag Warehouse: Welfare Xmas: Douchebag Warehouse: Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?

Those things suCK ANYWAYS! THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND DON'T SCRATCH THAT ITCH THE SAME WAY A SMOOTH CAMEL COULD!

You could try drops of liquid nicotine on an exposed patch of skin.

//don't actually try this
//you will die

WE'LL JUST SEE ABOUT THAT!


WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING!? NOT THAT I MIND, I ENJOY SHOUTING AND BEING A BIG DOOFUS TOO!11111111111111111111111111
 
2010-08-06 04:35:18 PM
homeschooled: I know I'm not the most informed person on this topic, but from what I understand this happened because of a BP error when removing a pipe, or something. A pressue issue. Not the location of the drilling.

But again, like I said...... not that educated on this whole topic. But it's not that big of a deal to me, as long as they don't f*ck everything up again.


Based on the content of this post I'd say it's safe to assume you're better educated than most.

I'm not sure what exactly caused the explosion and subsequent disaster but I am pretty sure you are correct that it had pretty much nothing to do with the location of the well and everything to do with an asshat company doing things in an asshat manner.

So really, as long as they do it correctly this time I don't care where they drill. I'd be lying if I didn't admit my disappointment at BP's continued existence as a corporation, however.
 
2010-08-06 04:36:01 PM
CygnusDarius: Headso: yeah but we are not some third world shiathole, the audacity to do that here is insane to me, but you have jerkoffs saying "because...?" in this thread so after their oil facial, like a true slut they ask for more. Based on that they judged their risk just fine, "conservatives" will defend them to the end.

To be fair, money buys loyalty and protection.


The sad thing is I doubt DIA or the majority of other apologists get shiat for their loyalty to British Petroleum and their imperialistic antics. If they did it wouldn't be so pathetic.
 
2010-08-06 04:36:04 PM
From bp's website:
Since 2005, BP Alternative Energy has invested around $4 billion in wind, solar, biofuels and advanced technologies like hydrogen power and carbon capture and storage.
 
2010-08-06 04:36:27 PM
Cataholic: Welfare Xmas: rodeofrog: I guess the laws of physics demand that I put all my groceries in plastic shells and drive myself home in my H3?

I = F*t = m*a*t

H3 = big m = small a

So yes, yes they do.

You fart meat? That must smell interesting
.


That brought my thought process to a screeching halt.

Also, my ex-girlfriend did the same thing. It's not uncommon. Or since it's meat, it's not rare.

/Nyuk nyuk
 
2010-08-06 04:37:02 PM
With BP's safety record, I am not so sure I want them drilling anything, anywhere.

But there is a lot of oil there that wants to come to the surface. So I say Fark BP, and bring on one of those other companies that know what the Fark they're doing and to them I say...

Drill Baby drill!!!
 
2010-08-06 04:37:23 PM
Stanfan114: Douchebag Warehouse: Welfare Xmas: Douchebag Warehouse: Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?

Those things suCK ANYWAYS! THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND DON'T SCRATCH THAT ITCH THE SAME WAY A SMOOTH CAMEL COULD!

You could try drops of liquid nicotine on an exposed patch of skin.

//don't actually try this
//you will die

WE'LL JUST SEE ABOUT THAT!

WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING!? NOT THAT I MIND, I ENJOY SHOUTING AND BEING A BIG DOOFUS TOO!11111111111111111111111111


OMG STFU BEFORE I STAB YOU BOTH IN THE FACE WITH A RUSTY SCREWDRIVER!

NOOOOBS!
 
2010-08-06 04:38:02 PM
Headso: CygnusDarius: Headso: yeah but we are not some third world shiathole, the audacity to do that here is insane to me, but you have jerkoffs saying "because...?" in this thread so after their oil facial, like a true slut they ask for more. Based on that they judged their risk just fine, "conservatives" will defend them to the end.

To be fair, money buys loyalty and protection.

The sad thing is I doubt DIA or the majority of other apologists get shiat for their loyalty to British Petroleum and their imperialistic antics. If they did it wouldn't be so pathetic.


Yeah. The money goes to the people in power. So, in a way, money stays in the upper ladder.

rodeofrog: From bp's website:
Since 2005, BP Alternative Energy has invested around $4 billion in wind, solar, biofuels and advanced technologies like hydrogen power and carbon capture and storage.


I'd like to think that is true, but it's quite likely it's hogwash.
 
2010-08-06 04:38:03 PM
Somacandra:

Exactly. But according to Bernoulli's Principle (new window) the pressure the oil exerts on Deepwater Horizon can't be relieved on the unless the oil has somewhere else to move to--hence up the relief well and out. Since the relief well will "kill" Deepwater Horizon from the bottom (as the "static kill" did from the top) I would assume the oil moving up and out of the relief well will be sold like any other mined oil--thus making it a standard oil well.



This has nothing to do with Bernoulli.... you are talking out of your ass

///taken way to many fluids classes not to respond to that one...
 
2010-08-06 04:38:19 PM
TheIndependent: OUTRAGE!! I don't think BP should do this!! So I for one am never going to use an oil based product again to show the world how much I care about this... and stuff...

If you're serious then you better turn your computer off, remove your shoes, clothes, underwear, stop sitting in that chair, move out of your house/apartment, stop eating, drinking and about anything else you can do... oh, breathing is allowed.

Everything we manufacturer is based on oil/oil byproducts in some fashion.
 
2010-08-06 04:38:26 PM
homeschooled: I know I'm not the most informed person on this topic, but from what I understand this happened because of a BP error when removing a pipe, or something. A pressue issue. Not the location of the drilling.

But again, like I said...... not that educated on this whole topic. But it's not that big of a deal to me, as long as they don't f*ck everything up again.


THIS
 
2010-08-06 04:38:26 PM
mainstreet62: Cataholic: Welfare Xmas: rodeofrog: I guess the laws of physics demand that I put all my groceries in plastic shells and drive myself home in my H3?

I = F*t = m*a*t

H3 = big m = small a

So yes, yes they do.

You fart meat? That must smell interesting.

That brought my thought process to a screeching halt.

Also, my ex-girlfriend did the same thing. It's not uncommon. Or since it's meat, it's not rare.

/Nyuk nyuk


I played a mean trick on my friend's wife. I invited him over for beer and roasted garlic pizza, then sent him home.

You know what roasted garlic farts smell like? Roasted garlic. MMMMWWWWOOOHHHAHHAHAHHAHAAAA!
 
2010-08-06 04:39:39 PM
I would assume the oil moving up and out of the relief well will be sold like any other mined oil--thus making it a standard oil well.

Well, no, it's not a Standard Oil well, it's a BP well. See, BP merged with Amoco (formerly Standard Oil) a few years ago. See the BP wikipedia entry for details.

/Hah, I kill myself sometimes.
 
2010-08-06 04:39:53 PM
mainstreet62: Somacandra: Wasn't that part of the idea for the relief well in the first place: to drink up the old well's milkshake?

I'm under the impression that the reason the relief well is being drilled is to lower the pressure on the now cemented shut well. If enough pressure were to build up, maybe it would create too much pressure and make the cement crack somehow? I don't know.

Anyway, I have no problem with BP drilling again, as long as it is done safely, with plenty of safeguards in place.

BP learned a very expensive lesson with this spill, they're going to be more careful from now on. At least, one can hope they're more careful....


You're a fool if you believe that.
 
2010-08-06 04:41:00 PM
Lipo: mainstreet62: Somacandra: Wasn't that part of the idea for the relief well in the first place: to drink up the old well's milkshake?

I'm under the impression that the reason the relief well is being drilled is to lower the pressure on the now cemented shut well. If enough pressure were to build up, maybe it would create too much pressure and make the cement crack somehow? I don't know.

Anyway, I have no problem with BP drilling again, as long as it is done safely, with plenty of safeguards in place.

BP learned a very expensive lesson with this spill, they're going to be more careful from now on. At least, one can hope they're more careful....

You're a fool if you believe that.


Believe what, exactly?
 
2010-08-06 04:41:33 PM
mainstreet62: Stanfan114: Douchebag Warehouse: Welfare Xmas: Douchebag Warehouse: Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?

Those things suCK ANYWAYS! THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND DON'T SCRATCH THAT ITCH THE SAME WAY A SMOOTH CAMEL COULD!

You could try drops of liquid nicotine on an exposed patch of skin.

//don't actually try this
//you will die

WE'LL JUST SEE ABOUT THAT!

WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING!? NOT THAT I MIND, I ENJOY SHOUTING AND BEING A BIG DOOFUS TOO!11111111111111111111111111

OMG STFU BEFORE I STAB YOU BOTH IN THE FACE WITH A RUSTY SCREWDRIVER!

NOOOOBS!


ME? A NOOB? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!1111111111111 CHECK THE PROFILE!1 AND I GAVE MYSELF A PRINCE ALBERT WITH A RUSTY SCREWDRIVER BECAUSE I'M LOCO ESE!
 
2010-08-06 04:42:56 PM
I have no issue with BP drilling there again.

I do have issue with BP not performing basic maintenance on the Trans-Alaskan pipeline. That was BP's other spill at the time, considering their track record I think they should have to sell their stake in the Trans-Alaskan pipeline.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/dispatches/energy/5396-inspectors-say-bps-alaska- p ipeline-needs-attention-
 
2010-08-06 04:43:05 PM
CrispFlows: If it is not relieved, that will happen. The cap is meant to be temporary.

You have no idea of which you speak. There are thousands of such capped wells in the GOM and other offshore wells. They do not pop. Do you know how they get oil out of a reserve once the pressure starts to drop? They pump in mud\water. The pressure will not be relived by pumping out the oil. A top killed well is not going to pop. The only threat is the casing will crack. A bottom kill will prevent this.
 
2010-08-06 04:43:18 PM
CygnusDarius: rodeofrog: From bp's website:
Since 2005, BP Alternative Energy has invested around $4 billion in wind, solar, biofuels and advanced technologies like hydrogen power and carbon capture and storage.

I'd like to think that is true, but it's quite likely it's hogwash.


I looked into it. A lot of that money actually had to go to pay off victims of a massive wind spill.
 
2010-08-06 04:43:46 PM
Dancin_In_Anson: The-Brain: Where does the line form for BP exec cockpunches?

Because....?



Because the line for raping BP execs with a fence post wrapped in barbed wire is backed up across 4 blocks.

/rape
//said it twice
///likes it
 
2010-08-06 04:43:58 PM
mainstreet62: Stanfan114: Douchebag Warehouse: Welfare Xmas: Douchebag Warehouse: Princepapa: So...it's the job of oil companies to explore alternative fuels?
Is that like how it's the tobacco company's job to create electronic cigarettes?

Those things suCK ANYWAYS! THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND DON'T SCRATCH THAT ITCH THE SAME WAY A SMOOTH CAMEL COULD!

You could try drops of liquid nicotine on an exposed patch of skin.

//don't actually try this
//you will die

WE'LL JUST SEE ABOUT THAT!

WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING!? NOT THAT I MIND, I ENJOY SHOUTING AND BEING A BIG DOOFUS TOO!11111111111111111111111111

OMG STFU BEFORE I STAB YOU BOTH IN THE FACE WITH A RUSTY SCREWDRIVER!

NOOOOBS!


I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION AND I WILL VOICE IT HERE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THE FORCE OF AN EXPLODING OIL WELL! YOU CANNOT SILENCE MY GOD GIVEN FREE SPEECH AND HATE CRIME ME! THE PEOPLE MUST KNOW! THE PEOPLE MUST BE INFORMED OF MY RAVINGS ON A SEMI OBSCURE NEWS AGGREGATOR COMMENT SECTION! YOU MUST ALL TELL THEM OF WHAT YOU LEARNED! FREE YOURSELVES SHEEPLE!
 
2010-08-06 04:44:07 PM
Lipo: mainstreet62: Somacandra: Wasn't that part of the idea for the relief well in the first place: to drink up the old well's milkshake?

I'm under the impression that the reason the relief well is being drilled is to lower the pressure on the now cemented shut well. If enough pressure were to build up, maybe it would create too much pressure and make the cement crack somehow? I don't know.

Anyway, I have no problem with BP drilling again, as long as it is done safely, with plenty of safeguards in place.

BP learned a very expensive lesson with this spill, they're going to be more careful from now on. At least, one can hope they're more careful....

You're a fool if you believe that.


"Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes."
 
2010-08-06 04:44:56 PM
rodeofrog: TheIndependent: rodeofrog: TheIndependent: rodeofrog: About 10 years ago, I wondered aloud, "what will it take for America to stop with all the oil, and really explore alternative sources of energy?"

Thank you, BP, for reminding us that we still have yet to hit rock bottom.

Everyone will need to be high enough to believe that the laws of physics don't really apply anymore.

I guess the laws of physics demand that I put all my groceries in plastic shells and drive myself home in my H3?

You first spoke about alternative energy which is generally governed by physical properties. How much energy can you get/transport from 1 billion solar cells vs. 1 nuclear power plant? How far does your Volt go on a full charge verses a full tank of gas?

I addressed 2 things: (1) stop with all the oil; (2) explore alternative energy sources.

I don't know the answers to your questions or what verses you are singing. As another poster noted, I suppose I'm just dreaming of unicorn fart generators while, as you proposed, I am high. Funny, though, that bp itself has a division that is dedicated to alternative energy. I wonder if those guys are high all the time, harnessing unicorn farts.


There is only a certain capacity that can be physically generated from "alt. energy" as it can currently be harnessed, accessed, transported and used. Further, what makes it somewhat lucrative is that there are people out there paying a huge premium for it in addition to lots of dollars in the form of government grants. However, if we tried to make the grid 100% solar cells and windmills, we'd only have about 1% of the electric power consumed in the country. My point is that you can wish for alternative energy in one hand and shiat in the other, and if you burn the shiat you'd have more energy in that hand than the one wishing for alternatives... I believe hydrogen will be the future of energy, there's just the little matter of safely using it right now.
 
2010-08-06 04:46:29 PM
CrispFlows: "Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes."

Experience is just one name. Other names include: death, manslaughter, negligence, disaster . . . I could go on.
 
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