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(Oregon Live)   Mother of the year candidate marries fugitive accused of molesting her daughter. Two hours after his indictment. With the daughter present   (oregonlive.com ) divider line
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2010-08-04 09:52:48 PM  

namegoeshere: Snip for brevity


I think familiarity has a lot to do with it. People go back to whatever circumstances they were raised in and around. Some women don't think they can do better. Some people don't think there is anything better. Remember, what you learn when you're a kid is "normal." If dad gets drunk and beats hell out of you (the kid) on every Saturday night, you don't talk about it to anyone, because you either believe it's normal, or you're ashamed. Shame is also a factor, I think. When I was beaten as a kid, I was told it was because I was bad and deserved it. If you deserve to be beaten because you're bad, who are you gonna tell about it?

As a social worker, though, if you can get lucky and get a parent to actually keep going with their kid to family therapy long enough to work something out, you can often break the chain. I'll have tons of failures, like every other child abuse investigator or social worker, but those few true successes better drive you through the bad crap. Kids who were perped on don't have to become perps.

/no, I don't know if he did it in this particular case, I'm speaking in generalities

t2.gstatic.com

/apropos hotlink
 
2010-08-04 09:53:13 PM  
I'm in oregon so I was really getting a kick out of watching this clip in it's entirety 5 minutes ago.
 
2010-08-04 09:53:25 PM  
But he looks like Toby Keith!
media.oregonlive.com
woodenspears.com
 
AAC
2010-08-04 09:53:39 PM  
The accused has a grip of cell phones with the company i work for. Im thinking of calling him up.

He paid a part of his bill today in a store in medford.
 
2010-08-04 09:54:27 PM  

Lonewolf45100: The mug shot explains it all.

Going to GIS Sasha Grey after viewing that article.


basturd looks guilty of all kinds of shiat.
 
2010-08-04 09:55:28 PM  
I like the part about all three of them checking into a hotel for a week long honeymoon, that has uuggh, yecch, and no farking way written all over it
 
2010-08-04 09:55:59 PM  

Kit_Wilde: Say what you will, but child molesters never have "unwanted" children....

/try the veal.


are you sure? there is a serious childhood obesity crisis in this country....

/try the waitress.
 
2010-08-04 09:56:35 PM  

Brodan: Key word - accused. Word never mentioned in article - convicted.


Would you like to leave the girl with these two prizes of humanity until he's convicted?
 
2010-08-04 09:59:40 PM  
Was probably one hell of a honeymoon....

/ticket please
 
2010-08-04 10:00:30 PM  
Was the sick tag on honeymoon?

If the guy did take pictures, well, I would say that the accusations have some evidence to back them, don't they?
 
2010-08-04 10:04:02 PM  

Generation_D: good ol oregon.


I started in on the comments before reading the article. I was thinking, "God damn, farking southern hicks really are farked up." Then I saw your comment. And the link. Damn it.
 
2010-08-04 10:05:08 PM  

jeaux65: I'm getting so sick of stories like these...farking mothers who deliberately put their kids in danger of creeps like these, while other good would-be mothers have miscarriages or are unable to bear children. Its wrong.

Or, yes, even gay couples who would make excellent parents having issues adopting kids.

GRRR WORLD, JUST GRRRR.


As a person with fertility issue...THIS!!!! I scared my hubby moments ago when I screamed: 'I'd cut off his d*ck!' I know he's innocent until proven guilty...but seriously...she married him...ick.
 
2010-08-04 10:06:10 PM  

ferretman: Was probably one hell of a honeymoon....

/ticket please


i mean, how many guys are sooooo lucky? a really fat cow whale bison of diseased whore and a 7 year old.
 
2010-08-04 10:07:14 PM  
Wow, I always thought that was just a TV show.

t1.gstatic.com
 
2010-08-04 10:07:37 PM  
Bullroarer_Took: zabadu: Well, you can only imagine what the daughter looks like.

She's seven years old, ass-blaster!


so she's automatically hot, right?
 
2010-08-04 10:08:27 PM  
What a selfish biatch. Even if the guy didn't do it, this incident is going to stay with that little girl for the rest of her life. Any good parent would just say fark the dude and move on, it's not worth the trouble the situation comes with.
 
2010-08-04 10:09:04 PM  

ferretman: Was probably one hell of a honeymoon....

/ticket please


Can't have been much. The woman looks like she's carved out of pudding, and the guy looks just like the perv he is. He probably beats whores when he's not diddling little girls.
 
2010-08-04 10:11:25 PM  

pvd021: Single parent showing poor decision making abilities? You don't say.
Talk about redundancy.


Single moms are the downfall of this country!!!!!
/Derp off.
 
2010-08-04 10:11:38 PM  
SausageOstrich: it's not worth the trouble the situation comes with.

tell me about it...

static.thehollywoodgossip.com
 
2010-08-04 10:12:34 PM  
What's her Fark handle?
 
2010-08-04 10:13:27 PM  

SausageOstrich: Even if the guy didn't do it, this incident is going to stay with that little girl for the rest of her life


If he didn't do it, what incident are you referring to?
 
2010-08-04 10:14:04 PM  
You know, I click on these links thinking that one time, just one, the story will be something fappable.

But it never is.
 
2010-08-04 10:19:21 PM  

doktor random: I'm in oregon so I was really getting a kick out of watching this clip in it's entirety 5 minutes ago.



That chair was asking for it!

/what happens when farkers don't have the internets to chimp out on.
 
2010-08-04 10:21:27 PM  

ultraholland: Bullroarer_Took: zabadu: Well, you can only imagine what the daughter looks like.

She's seven years old, ass-blaster!

so she's automatically hot, right?



www.ramasscreen.com
 
2010-08-04 10:21:37 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: travvis: Is the accused named Frank Fingerman?

Frank Fingerman

Wouldn't it be "Frank Fingergirl"?

Frank Fingerman


Maybe it's Frank Fingerass?

Frank Fingerman
 
2010-08-04 10:21:45 PM  
I hate to say it, but I can top it:

Try a mother whose boyfriend is accused of Molesting her daughter, who is 14 from at least the age of 12. What does she do? Why she figures out that the minimum age for Marriage in our state is 14 with parental consent, and forces her daughter to marry her molester so (she thinks) the state will have to drop all charges.

I'm very proud to say I played a small part with the help of a heroic and pissed off judge in getting that girl possibly the fastest divorce ever issued in my state . We got involved because She had a problem when she first came in (after running away from home), you see, while you can get married as young as 14 in MD, you can't file a divorce, or any lawsuit for that matter, without your parent's permission until you are 18.

Let's just say we ruthlessly exploited several loopholes in the law to make that a non-issue.
 
2010-08-04 10:21:50 PM  
...was she hot?
 
2010-08-04 10:22:59 PM  

srhp29: SausageOstrich: Even if the guy didn't do it, this incident is going to stay with that little girl for the rest of her life

If he didn't do it, what incident are you referring to?


Well think about it. Lets say he didn't do it. The daughter has been there while this whole thing has been going on - hearing accusations, talking about what this guy supposedly did to her, etc. I can't help but wonder if she'll associate him with it from now on, like he'll be a constant reminder. Also, she could be questioning her mothers ability to choose what's in her best interest now.

All I'm saying is, I've been through days of questioning regarding sexual abuse as a child and that shiat stays with you. It's grueling and sucks to talk about. I wouldn't want the guy that was accused of touching me hanging around me regardless. I would rather just forget about it and move on.
 
2010-08-04 10:24:16 PM  

Eric_PDX: Generation_D: good ol oregon.

I started in on the comments before reading the article. I was thinking, "God damn, farking southern hicks really are farked up." Then I saw your comment. And the link. Damn it.


You haven't lived in the NW long I take it? Google "enumclaw horse" to find out how screwed up the rural parts of the PNW are.

We're like Florida with less retirees.
 
2010-08-04 10:24:20 PM  
Peter Gabriel 2003:

'my lover stole my girlfriend'
'i keep beating up my ex'
'i want to kill my neighbour'
'my daughter's selling sex'
'my s/m lover hurt me'
'my girl became a man'
'i love my daughter's rapist
'my life's gone down the pan'

what a show, the barry williams show
the barry williams show
dysfunctional excess
is all it took for my success
and when the punches start to fly
the ratings always read so high
it's showtime
 
2010-08-04 10:29:50 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: As counsel for the defense I am happy that the spousal confidentiality card can now be played. I've suggested marriage to a couple of my former domestic assault clients.


The Spousal privilege does not apply when it is a crime against the spouse or the spouse's child. And, even if arguendo it applied in their particular jurisdiction, if she knew about it, it's likely that she was a co-conspirator and it wouldn't apply.
 
2010-08-04 10:30:56 PM  

Brodan: Key word - accused. Word never mentioned in article - convicted.


Innocent until proven guilty, I agree. However, were I in this woman's shoes, I would probably keep the guy out of my daughter's life until the question is resolved - better safe than sorry.
 
2010-08-04 10:31:17 PM  
I think she did the best thing she could for her child.

She gave the state a definitive reason to take said child away from her.

Best decision ever.
 
2010-08-04 10:35:56 PM  
Just another day for Warren DeMontegue.
 
2010-08-04 10:37:47 PM  
Well, I'm glad to see someone's finally thinking of the children!
 
2010-08-04 10:37:51 PM  

Mr. carrot: I think she did the best thing she could for her child.

She gave the state a definitive reason to take said child away from her.

Best decision ever.


Pretty much this, from a social worker's perspective.
 
2010-08-04 10:39:33 PM  

Mr. carrot: I think she did the best thing she could for her child.
She gave the state a definitive reason to take said child away from her.
Best decision ever.


TRUE THAT

Now providing she gets a good set of either foster or adoptive parents, things will get better
 
2010-08-04 10:39:51 PM  
How did this thread derail onto homosexuality? I'm sure plenty of Gays would be decent and caring parents. However, just becomes some normal couples are bad parents has no bearing on this subject.
 
2010-08-04 10:43:14 PM  

Snapper Carr: Brodan: Key word - accused. Word never mentioned in article - convicted.

Innocent until proven guilty, I agree. However, were I in this woman's shoes, I would probably keep the guy out of my daughter's life until the question is resolved - better safe than sorry.


You guys are right. The state should be ashamed that they took the kid away from these two innocent people and DARES lock them up without the benefit of being convicted.

The two should be freed and the child returned to them immediately.
 
2010-08-04 10:44:09 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Snapper Carr: Brodan: Key word - accused. Word never mentioned in article - convicted.

Innocent until proven guilty, I agree. However, were I in this woman's shoes, I would probably keep the guy out of my daughter's life until the question is resolved - better safe than sorry.

You guys are right. The state should be ashamed that they took the kid away from these two innocent people and DARES lock them up without the benefit of being convicted.

The two should be freed and the child returned to them immediately.


Did you even read what I wrote?
 
2010-08-04 10:44:44 PM  

Another Government Employee: The kid is screwed.

The female biodonor and her lover obviously don't care.

I wonder if the images were transmitted?


yeah, I think about 56 times according to the article
 
2010-08-04 10:46:09 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

I seriously hate this country.


Here ya go, partner.
 
2010-08-04 10:51:35 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I seriously hate this country.



Maybe you'd like to try Thailand. Or Russia.
 
2010-08-04 10:55:53 PM  

WeenerGord: Fark_Guy_Rob: I seriously hate this country.


Maybe you'd like to try Thailand. Or Russia.


no-stay here....that is the political game plan there.
who ever you hate, ya get vote against every 4 years!
 
2010-08-04 10:56:04 PM  

Mudflap: Fark_Guy_Rob: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

I seriously hate this country.

Here ya go, partner.


This from a guy who has a profile picture in which you are clearly plotting the molestation of an infant.
 
2010-08-04 10:58:13 PM  

jeaux65: I'm getting so sick of stories like these...farking mothers who deliberately put their kids in danger of creeps like these, while other good would-be mothers have miscarriages or are unable to bear children. Its wrong.

Or, yes, even gay couples who would make excellent parents having issues adopting kids.

GRRR WORLD, JUST GRRRR.


I hear ya.
 
2010-08-04 11:00:20 PM  
I guess I have to ask - what's so special about children that everyone wants to protect everyone else's? Haven't we been making them for the last 6000 years? Can't we just make more if one or two get damaged? It's like being all up in arms to protect baby carrots or something. Just doesn't make any sense.
 
2010-08-04 11:00:23 PM  

Magorn: I hate to say it, but I can top it:

Try a mother whose boyfriend is accused of Molesting her daughter, who is 14 from at least the age of 12. What does she do? Why she figures out that the minimum age for Marriage in our state is 14 with parental consent, and forces her daughter to marry her molester so (she thinks) the state will have to drop all charges.

I'm very proud to say I played a small part with the help of a heroic and pissed off judge in getting that girl possibly the fastest divorce ever issued in my state . We got involved because She had a problem when she first came in (after running away from home), you see, while you can get married as young as 14 in MD, you can't file a divorce, or any lawsuit for that matter, without your parent's permission until you are 18.

Let's just say we ruthlessly exploited several loopholes in the law to make that a non-issue.


I think you are the second lawyer to which I would like to extend a permanent free beer, at any time. Not just for this, but this is right up there at the top of the list.

/First lawyer was also a priest, and is now a teacher
//In Singapore
///He's a fun guy
 
2010-08-04 11:02:15 PM  

Ashtrey: Mudflap: Fark_Guy_Rob: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

I seriously hate this country.

Here ya go, partner.

This from a guy who has a profile picture in which you are clearly plotting the molestation tickling of an infant.


Busted.
 
2010-08-04 11:04:00 PM  

namegoeshere:
/social worker


I wouldn't take your job for all the money in the world. I applaud people who can do that kind of work.
 
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