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2010-08-02 12:16:53 PM
Bocanegra: Antisemite - check
Disagrees with American exceptionalism - check
Hates America's founding principles - check
Wishes the nation of Israel would DIAF - check

Sounds more like he's running in the Democrat
ic primary.


FTFY
 
2010-08-02 12:16:57 PM
MonkeyVegetables: Bocanegra: Obama said he would sit down with him.

citation needed


Ah, see, here's your problem. See, you replied to Bocanegra. That's where you went wrong. See, what you should have done is NOT replied to Bocanegra.
 
2010-08-02 12:17:01 PM
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: GAT_00: Republicans and Ahmadinejad. Both hate homosexuals, approve of removing personal rights, and want theocracies. He'd fit in well with the GOP.

How do you fit so much derp into just a few words?


In what way is he wrong? Do you see a lot of Republicans advocating LGBT rights? Do you see republicans championing the ACLU? Do you see Republicans advocating the separation of Church and State?

Ahmadinejad is the end result of what Republicans claim they want. Subjugated women, hidden homosexuality and a state religion.
 
2010-08-02 12:17:18 PM
If only Hitler had debated Stalin, they surely could have hashed out their political differences, solved the Poland question and ushered in an age of peace. Debating Imadinnerjacket would surely be as fruitful.
 
2010-08-02 12:18:24 PM
AshHousewares18: GAT's comments although clearly inflammatory, are not far off at all.

www.davejenkins.com

Really? If you morons truly believe this we are more farked that I thought.
 
2010-08-02 12:18:42 PM
Bocanegra: Marla Singer's Laundry: Citations please.

You can't cite things that nobody has ever said or advocated.


So we can't cite your sanity.

Got it.
 
2010-08-02 12:19:01 PM
AshHousewares18: Marla Singer's Laundry: Leeds: GAT_00: Republicans and Ahmadinejad. Both hate homosexuals, approve of removing personal rights, and want theocracies. He'd fit in well with the GOP.

DIAF loser.

Where is he wrong? Citations please.

Unfortunately, so many conservatives are hung up on "SOCALISM WAHH!!11! They've completely lost sight of the fact that their party has been hijacked by people that apart from lowering taxes, have no interest in preserving true conservative ideals.
If the conservative party actually reflected a decent semblance of what they are supposed to stand for I'd vote Republican in a heartbeat, in the mean time I anticipate on being a Disappointed Democrat™ for my lifetime.

Here's a nice unbiased look at the Texas GOP platform, a direct link to it: Texas GOP Platform

Notice how they devote more text-space to GAY MARRIAGE than TERRORISM and TAXES combined.

GAT's comments although clearly inflammatory, are not far off at all.


More HTML Mavericky-ness. I'm impressed.
 
2010-08-02 12:19:03 PM
Okay fark hates that link, here is the direct html:
http://static.texastribune.org/media/documents/FINAL_2010_STATE_REPUBLICAN_PART Y _PLATFORM.pdf
 
2010-08-02 12:19:22 PM
Crude: He would smoke Obama.

If there are no DERP-O-PROMPTERS, President Dickhole can't put 2 sentences together.


I'll bet the guys who invited Obama to speak at the Republican retreat in Baltimore sure wish that were true.
 
2010-08-02 12:20:18 PM
Clearly Bush's fault.
 
2010-08-02 12:20:28 PM
MonkeyAngst: MonkeyVegetables: Bocanegra: Obama said he would sit down with him.

citation needed

Ah, see, here's your problem. See, you replied to Bocanegra. That's where you went wrong. See, what you should have done is NOT replied to Bocanegra.


what else am i supposed to do in the politics tab? not quote the derp-brigade?
 
2010-08-02 12:20:31 PM
Bocanegra: Really? If you morons truly believe this we are more farked that I thought.

There is not much mental gymnastics needed to notice the parallels between two religious moralist movements, particularly when they often use similar tactics to sway people.
 
2010-08-02 12:20:53 PM
Bocanegra: AshHousewares18: GAT's comments although clearly inflammatory, are not far off at all.



Really? If you morons truly believe this we are more farked that I thought.


Look at at the Texas GOP's platform.
A nice unbiased look at the party of "less government."
 
2010-08-02 12:21:15 PM
Treygreen13: More HTML Mavericky-ness. I'm impressed.

is that all you have?
 
2010-08-02 12:21:28 PM
what_now: In what way is he wrong? Do you see a lot of Republicans advocating LGBT rights? Do you see republicans championing the ACLU? Do you see Republicans advocating the separation of Church and State?

Is this about what we see, or what you think you see? I know Republicans who support those things, myself included.

Presenting your opinions as fact is wrong.
 
2010-08-02 12:21:45 PM
MonkeyVegetables: Bocanegra: Obama said he would sit down with him.

citation needed


Link

Also from: Obama's Campaign Site:

Iran

* The Problem: Iran has sought nuclear weapons, supports militias inside Iraq and terror across the region, and its leaders threaten Israel and deny the Holocaust. But Obama and Biden believe that we have not exhausted our non-military options in confronting this threat; in many ways, we have yet to try them. That's why Obama stood up to the Bush administration's warnings of war, just like he stood up to the war in Iraq.
* Opposed Bush-Cheney Saber Rattling: Obama and Biden opposed the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which says we should use our military presence in Iraq to counter the threat from Iran. Obama and Biden believe that it was reckless for Congress to give George Bush any justification to extend the Iraq War or to attack Iran. Obama also introduced a resolution in the Senate declaring that no act of Congress - including Kyl-Lieberman - gives the Bush administration authorization to attack Iran.
* Diplomacy: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama and Biden would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress.
 
2010-08-02 12:22:21 PM
MonkeyVegetables: Treygreen13: More HTML Mavericky-ness. I'm impressed.

is that all you have?


Nope. I have a lot to say. I just find the repeated HTML fail hilarious.
 
2010-08-02 12:22:44 PM
nosferatublue: Example - there is a chest of pirate gold buried on the dark side of the moon. Where am I wrong? Citations, please.

Hey, let me know when the 'pirate gold' shuts up about "we're a Christian nation! WHERE IS BIRF CERTIFICATE!!!! DETH PANELS!!! SOCIALIZIM AGENDA!!" and I'll take your theory (and clunky posts) a bit more seriously.
 
2010-08-02 12:23:16 PM
Good lord, the stupid is strong in this thread. Iedological diversity is bad, mkay?

You're either a Democrat or you hate gays, women, and want a theocracy. But Republicans are the intolerant ones.
 
2010-08-02 12:23:18 PM
Treygreen13: what_now: In what way is he wrong? Do you see a lot of Republicans advocating LGBT rights? Do you see republicans championing the ACLU? Do you see Republicans advocating the separation of Church and State?

Is this about what we see, or what you think you see? I know Republicans who support those things, myself included.

Presenting your opinions as fact is wrong.


Is this about what we see, or what you think you see? I don't know any Republicans who support those things.

Presenting your opinions as fact is wrong.

/anecdotal evidence is anecdotal
 
2010-08-02 12:23:23 PM
CitizenTed: If only Hitler had debated Stalin, they surely could have hashed out their political differences, solved the Poland question and ushered in an age of peace. Debating Imadinnerjacket would surely be as fruitful.

You forgot about Polanski.
 
2010-08-02 12:23:27 PM
what_now: An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: GAT_00: Republicans and Ahmadinejad. Both hate homosexuals, approve of removing personal rights, and want theocracies. He'd fit in well with the GOP.

How do you fit so much derp into just a few words?

In what way is he wrong? Do you see a lot of Republicans advocating LGBT rights? Do you see republicans championing the ACLU? Do you see Republicans advocating the separation of Church and State?

Ahmadinejad is the end result of what Republicans claim they want. Subjugated women, hidden homosexuality and a state religion.


Clearly you arent paying attention so I will just leave this here

Link (new window)
 
2010-08-02 12:24:03 PM
So according to Gat, all republicans are neocons?
 
2010-08-02 12:24:07 PM
Leeds: I am your citation. I'm an atheist republican with homosexual friends.

You must be a masochist.
 
2010-08-02 12:24:29 PM
MonkeyVegetables: Is this about what we see, or what you think you see? I don't know any Republicans who support those things.

Presenting your opinions as fact is wrong.

/anecdotal evidence is anecdotal


Except, I have proof and you don't. So GBTW.
 
2010-08-02 12:24:48 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: * Diplomacy: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions

Holy Sh*t! Get that man a chair! I mean, he specifically requested one in that sentence!
 
2010-08-02 12:24:50 PM
FLMountainMan: Good lord, the stupid is strong in this thread. Iedological diversity is bad, mkay?

You're either a Democrat or you hate gays, women, and want a theocracy. But Republicans are the intolerant ones.


IED, huh? Freudian slip?

/got nothin
 
2010-08-02 12:25:40 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.

so engage in presidental diplomacy = live televised debate with Ahmadinejad

got it
 
2010-08-02 12:25:49 PM
AshHousewares18: GAT's comments although clearly inflammatory, are not far off at all.

The truth is only inflammatory because the people in question who hold those beliefs try to hide it because they know saying what they really want will scare people away. We are trending towards a state religion, thanks to the GOP. We continue to refuse equal rights to a segment of our population, thanks to the GOP. We continue to take away the rights we all deserve, thanks in part to the GOP; the Democrats aren't innocent there.

I don't think my remarks are far off at all. They are the cold, honest truth. If Ahmadinejad was a Christian, he'd be a darling of the GOP.
 
2010-08-02 12:25:53 PM
Anti_illuminati: The_Six_Fingered_Man: * Diplomacy: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions

Holy Sh*t! Get that man a chair! I mean, he specifically requested one in that sentence!


So you're going to get hung up on the words "sit down with...?" Is today Literal Monday and I missed the memo?
 
2010-08-02 12:26:12 PM
FLMountainMan: Good lord, the stupid is strong in this thread. Iedological diversity is bad, mkay?

You're either a Democrat or you hate gays, women, and want a theocracy. But Republicans are the intolerant ones.


The right really has this obsession with victimization, I'll tell you what.

Someone points out there are some features amongst a relatively homogenous group, and all of a sudden it's "Oh well we're ALLL racists" or "We're ALLL gay haters!"

No, dude. No. But you've got most of them, so enjoy. Don't deny reality. If you don't want to be associated with the party that houses the vast majority of racists, homophobes, etc, then shut them down, kick them out, or leave the party.
 
2010-08-02 12:26:41 PM
Bocanegra: Well, Obama said he would sit down with him. Now we get to see if he puts his money where his mouth is.

Oh who am I kidding. He won't do anything.


That poor chicken.
 
2010-08-02 12:26:52 PM
Treygreen13: Is this about what we see, or what you think you see? I know Republicans who support those things, myself included.

Sure, but the party platform doesn't support those things.
 
2010-08-02 12:27:14 PM
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2010-08-02 10:08:11 AM
Republicans and Ahmadinejad. Both hate homosexuals, approve of removing personal rights,

You say that as if the democrats do not.
Care to do a bullet point comparison?

// start with the democratic party's opposition to ending slavery, the emancipation proclamation (by a republican) and their votes against the Civil rights act (led by algore's father)
 
2010-08-02 12:27:18 PM
I fail to see why this would be a bad thing and could actually make us seem more open and personable to insular muslim nations. We'd have to make sure that Iran televised the debate live, and without editing however.
 
2010-08-02 12:27:22 PM
Treygreen13: proof

[indigomontoya.jpeg]
 
2010-08-02 12:27:35 PM
FLMountainMan: Good lord, the stupid is strong in this thread. Iedological diversity is bad, mkay?

You're either a Democrat Republican or you hate gays freedom, women jesus, and want a theocracy socialism. But Republicans Democrats are the intolerant ones.


FTFY.

/yes, i meant "a socialism"
 
2010-08-02 12:27:45 PM
The world would like to see that.

In America, they want to see baseball and the like.

But, the world would like to see the US justify a war before the bombs start flying.
 
2010-08-02 12:27:59 PM
MonkeyVegetables: what else am i supposed to do in the politics tab? not quote the derp-brigade?

Exactly. The ones who are just here to troll (and you can tell by the sentiments like "Democrats are anti-Semites who want to see the nation of Israel destroyed"), at any rate.
 
2010-08-02 12:28:14 PM
MonkeyVegetables: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.

so engage in presidental diplomacy = live televised debate with Ahmadinejad

got it


You asked for a citation about the bit "Obama said he would sit down with him..." I provided it.
 
2010-08-02 12:28:34 PM
OnlyM3: GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2010-08-02 10:08:11 AM
Republicans and Ahmadinejad. Both hate homosexuals, approve of removing personal rights,

You say that as if the democrats do not.
Care to do a bullet point comparison?

// start with the democratic party's opposition to ending slavery, the emancipation proclamation (by a republican) and their votes against the Civil rights act (led by algore's father)


GAT_00: AshHousewares18: GAT's comments although clearly inflammatory, are not far off at all.

The truth is only inflammatory because the people in question who hold those beliefs try to hide it because they know saying what they really want will scare people away. We are trending towards a state religion, thanks to the GOP. We continue to refuse equal rights to a segment of our population, thanks to the GOP. We continue to take away the rights we all deserve, thanks in part to the GOP; the Democrats aren't innocent there.

I don't think my remarks are far off at all. They are the cold, honest truth. If Ahmadinejad was a Christian, he'd be a darling of the GOP.


HURRRRRP
 
2010-08-02 12:28:42 PM
LasersHurt: Someone points out there are some features amongst a relatively homogenous group, and all of a sudden it's "Oh well we're ALLL racists" or "We're ALLL gay haters!"

But that isn't what he said. He said "Republicans". Not "some Republicans". Don't use fallacies if you don't want them to be attacked.

Take "Republicans" out of that sentence and replace it with any other group, and try the comment again.
 
2010-08-02 12:28:44 PM
a.imageshack.us
 
2010-08-02 12:29:10 PM
FLMountainMan: Good lord, the stupid is strong in this thread. Iedological diversity is bad, mkay?

You're either a Democrat or you hate gays, women, and want a theocracy. But Republicans are the intolerant ones.


No.

You're either NOT IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT REPUBLICAN PLATFORM, or you hate gays, women and want a theocracy.
 
2010-08-02 12:29:55 PM
what_now: FLMountainMan: Good lord, the stupid is strong in this thread. Iedological diversity is bad, mkay?

You're either a Democrat or you hate gays, women, and want a theocracy. But Republicans are the intolerant ones.

No.

You're either NOT IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT REPUBLICAN PLATFORM, or you hate gays, women and want a theocracy.


So to be a Republican, you have to agree with 100% of the party platform?
 
2010-08-02 12:30:32 PM
what_now: Treygreen13: Is this about what we see, or what you think you see? I know Republicans who support those things, myself included.

Sure, but the party platform doesn't support those things.


The party platform? Let's see it, then. Produce the "party platform".

MonkeyVegetables: Treygreen13: proof

[indigomontoya.jpeg]


The comment was that no Republicans support those things. I said I do, and I know others who do. You said you don't know any.

The burden of proof is on you to prove that either I, or the people I know, don't support those things.
 
2010-08-02 12:30:33 PM
Treygreen13: LasersHurt: Someone points out there are some features amongst a relatively homogenous group, and all of a sudden it's "Oh well we're ALLL racists" or "We're ALLL gay haters!"

But that isn't what he said. He said "Republicans". Not "some Republicans". Don't use fallacies if you don't want them to be attacked.

Take "Republicans" out of that sentence and replace it with any other group, and try the comment again.


It would be considerably less apt, then. Of course it's bad to attempt to paint any group as a whole as identical, yes. GAT does tend to do that. But the point stands, as I said - back off his 100% to some other percentage between, I dunno, 75% and 97%, and go from there.
 
2010-08-02 12:31:17 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: I provided it.

no, no you didnt
 
2010-08-02 12:31:26 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Anti_illuminati: The_Six_Fingered_Man: * Diplomacy: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions

Holy Sh*t! Get that man a chair! I mean, he specifically requested one in that sentence!

So you're going to get hung up on the words "sit down with...?" Is today Literal Monday and I missed the memo?


Oh, no not at all. Question though. Do you think "direct presidential diplomacy..." specifically means one-on-one, nobody else, those 2 only diplomacy?

or, are you just trying to defend someone on your side as best as possible?
 
2010-08-02 12:32:34 PM
LasersHurt: Treygreen13: LasersHurt: Someone points out there are some features amongst a relatively homogenous group, and all of a sudden it's "Oh well we're ALLL racists" or "We're ALLL gay haters!"

But that isn't what he said. He said "Republicans". Not "some Republicans". Don't use fallacies if you don't want them to be attacked.

Take "Republicans" out of that sentence and replace it with any other group, and try the comment again.

It would be considerably less apt, then. Of course it's bad to attempt to paint any group as a whole as identical, yes. GAT does tend to do that. But the point stands, as I said - back off his 100% to some other percentage between, I dunno, 75% and 97%, and go from there.


Then GAT should say "some". Of course, he won't because it's not necessary here on Fark.com.

Does 75% of the party feel the same on all those issues? I doubt it. It's nearly impossible to get 75% of any group to agree on 75% of any issue, let alone 3 in tandem.
 
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