Can I have the barmaid?

the waitress stole my heart

Unfortunately, they will probably be charged with theft, since as employees they would be so far down the line of creditors in bankruptcy proceedings. Fortunately, any jury should pretty much let them off and probably throw in some sort of right to plunder the chain as they will for anything not bolted down (or bolted down, if they have the proper tools)

If my company did this I would take one of our aircraft and sell it for about 3 mill.

/would get a buyer very quickly, since it's worth 4 mill

phalamir: Unfortunately, they will probably be charged with theft, since as employees they would be so far down the line of creditors in bankruptcy proceedings.

I'd say that if anyone is being charged with theft, it would be the VP who approved the giveaway.

Start CSB:

I was at the Centennial (CO) Benchwarmers on Wednesday for happy hour. I walked in and wires sticking out of the wall as earlier that day all of their HDTVs were repo'd. The busty waitress, who I was later told had a face, said they just ripped them from the walls in front of customers during the lunch rush.

A little while later the manager came to our table to chat it up and talked about all the cool things he's planning on doing, such as sportstalk radio remotes at their place. In retrospect I think he was trying to map out in his head how he could grab all the cash in the office safe and make a run for it, but considering how cash-poor this franchise obviously was I figured the office safe only had 36 bucks and a dog-eared copy of Hustler. Sad, really.

/CSB

The first time a paycheck bounces, go after them hard and fast while looking for another job. They are in breech of contract.

I had a boss tell me he wouldn't be able to pay me, but I was free to take stuff from the warehouse to make up for it. Yeah, I didn't have a job anymore, but considering how shiatty the pay was I figure $4000 worth of computers I was allowed to take and sell wasn't a bad severance package.

phalamir: Unfortunately, they will probably be charged with theft, since as employees they would be so far down the line of creditors in bankruptcy proceedings.

I didn't see anything about bankruptcy proceedings in that article.

phalamir: Unfortunately, they will probably be charged with theft, since as employees they would be so far down the line of creditors in bankruptcy proceedings. Fortunately, any jury should pretty much let them off and probably throw in some sort of right to plunder the chain as they will for anything not bolted down (or bolted down, if they have the proper tools)

In TFA, they said they had been authorized by management. Would they then be doing something illegal? I honestly don't know...

If you continue to work at a place for 2 months after a paycheck has bounced...You aren't exactly the brightest light-bulb on the strand.

Knew of a franchise bar/grill were the employees weren't getting paid so they kept the restaurant open for business as usual except for accepting cash only, which they distributed amongst themselves after closing.

zGypsyQueen: If you continue to work at a place for 2 months after a paycheck has bounced...You aren't exactly the brightest light-bulb on the strand.

If most of your pay is tips, why not?

phalamir: Unfortunately, they will probably be charged with theft, since as employees they would be so far down the line of creditors in bankruptcy proceedings. Fortunately, any jury should pretty much let them off and probably throw in some sort of right to plunder the chain as they will for anything not bolted down (or bolted down, if they have the proper tools)

The article doesn't say there is any bankruptcy filing so how would it be theft?

zGypsyQueen: If you continue to work at a place for 2 months after a paycheck has bounced...You aren't exactly the brightest light-bulb on the strand.

It's not that insane. Of course when the first paycheck has trouble you start looking for a new job but one bounced check doesn't mean you won't get any more money out of them. Thus it makes sense to keep on working while you're hunting even if there are paycheck problems. Of course, if you find something you start immediately.

The UCC frowns on these shennanigans.

beoswulf: Knew of a franchise bar/grill were the employees weren't getting paid so they kept the restaurant open for business as usual except for accepting cash only, which they distributed amongst themselves after closing.

I think that was in the Boston area. Corporate called the bar and said 'shut down everything' servers/chefs/bartenders kept serving and accepting cash until everything ran out.

My former roommate worked at a restaurant that bounced the staff's paychecks a couple of times.

The first time, she lived on her tips.
The second time she had another employee cash the cheque out of the till. And then she returned the favour for the other employee.

The boss was screaming mad, but they didn't care.
What was he going to do? Call the cops? Stop paying them?

I have worked at a few restaurants that have bounced checks. Usually it is just an accounting error of not moving money to the payroll account in time. It was rarely a big deal, if you were a server or bartender. I always forgot about paydays since the checks were usually only for $20 or so, sometimes you received the check that said "this is not a check" because you didn't make anything. Servers hourly wages usually only cover the federal and state taxes and most of the income is from tips.

Worked for a union HVAC company where the owner's sister kept hitting the till. You would get paid at noon and race to the bank - or the checks bounced. Was shame as he and his foremen were a good bunch to work for - christmas party was at a bar - order/drink whatever you and your spouse wanted. Some guys got really ****ed up those days...

Eventually their credit went to hell and could no longer get bonds, bye bye South End Heating 8(

So the Benchwarmers that just opened up to replace the Bennigans here in Aurora is probably going to be shuttered??? Wow, I almost had a slight desire to go in the place since its been open (about 8 months?)

FTFA: "Kevin Foote is the kindest individual that I have ever met," she said. "And I love him very much."-- Um, WHOA-oa..

A company I managed for bounced payroll one week. Rather than force my employees to go without, even for a day, I paid them cash out of pocket, asking them to pledge their pay back to me when they got it. Which they did.

No matter what happens, always take care of your people. Without them, you're nothing.

Raptor Jesus: phalamir: Unfortunately, they will probably be charged with theft, since as employees they would be so far down the line of creditors in bankruptcy proceedings. Fortunately, any jury should pretty much let them off and probably throw in some sort of right to plunder the chain as they will for anything not bolted down (or bolted down, if they have the proper tools)In TFA, they said they had been authorized by management. Would they then be doing something illegal? I honestly don't know...

It said it was authorized by the local manager. That's not management of the business, but the local pigfarker. Since, the chain seems to be circling the toilet, then presumably they will go bankrupt. And then creditors will pick the carcass clean. And since banks and other businesses are considered more human than workers, they would get first rights to the still warm corpse. That mere peons were not properly shiat upon will be considered poor form, and said slaves will have to suffer. I didn't say it was right, just that the idea of some normal person gaining some minute benefit is not how American law works and said serfs will feel the pain of the lash from their "betters".

Airfoilsguy: neetro: If my company did this I would take one of our aircraft and sell it for about 3 mill.

/would get a buyer very quickly, since it's worth 4 mill


Good luck selling an aircraft without proper books.

You're right. By the time I paid the pilot to fly it out of the country, find a buyer, and get back, I would only have 1 mill. But don't ruin my dream.

Obama's summer recovery tour rolls on !!!

I work for a large national retailer and one week our payroll checks got stuck in a snow storm and couldn't be delivered on payday. For all the people who still get paper checks we gave them cash. It was on Christmas Eve. So you have dozens of people with cash in hand on Christmas Eve; I bet more than half was spent before heading home that day.

simpsonfan: Over a month they were not paid. I start taking stuff when the first paycheck bounces.

Always cash your paycheck at THEIR bank, not yours, if it does bounce, you already have the cash.

Worked for a company and got smart and did the same thing.


Had a family member who produced an awards show who got stiffed by the organizers. Paid all of the freelance workers out of his own pocket. He never got paid...

Sadly, this is why so many restaurants when they are going to shut down shut down with absolutely no notice. It's not that they're just so out of touch with workers living paycheck that they don't care about what's going to happen when workers come in for their shift to a note on the locked door. It's to prevent them stripping the place.