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(Atlanta Journal Constitution) Cool MLB: "Dear Prince Fielder: Sometimes players get hit with baseballs, especially fat ones. Go have a milkshake and a good cry about it"   (blogs.ajc.com) divider line 23
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2010-07-30 02:28:32 PM
Normally, we just call fat baseballs "softballs."
 
2010-07-30 02:30:14 PM
Good. That suspension was mind-numbingly dumb in the first place.
 
2010-07-30 02:38:15 PM
Would you say that there was any blowback from this affair, perhaps all over Prince Fielder's face?
 
2010-07-30 02:42:53 PM
I wish the Kershaw would have kept his appeal going for his ridiculous suspension and had it thrown out too.
 
2010-07-30 04:45:14 PM
It seemed to me like they really were going after him. prince got hit the game before, responded by showboating during his home run the next day, so they hit him again.

That said, getting ejected is all the punishment that was necessary. Suspensions should never be necessary.

Some Brewers pitcher will have a chance to throw a ball at this guy's head some game down the line and that's the way it's been and always should be :)
 
2010-07-30 04:53:10 PM
John Nash: It seemed to me like they really were going after him. prince got hit the game before, responded by showboating during his home run the next day, so they hit him again.

Doubtful. Venters was throwing change-ups, not fastballs. (Might have been breaking balls. Either way, they weren't fastballs.) He had just come in and when he misses, he tends to miss up and away, which for right handed batters end up being harmless outside pitches, but on a left-handed batter run right inside the batters box, and Prince Fielder presents a larger-than-average target. It would have been foolish to plunk him in that spot anyway because the Braves were down and the game was conceivably still withing reach.

Some Brewers pitcher will have a chance to throw a ball at this guy's head some game down the line and that's the way it's been and always should be :)

Normally, I would agree with that, too, but the Braves are done with the Brewers for this year, Venters is a relief pitcher and probably wouldn't bat for himself except on exceedingly rare occasions, and nobody like Fielder that much to remember it for that long, anyway.
 
2010-07-30 07:44:53 PM
Considering the first pitch from Venters sailed over Fielders head, and the second hit him in the back between the numbers, how could this not have been intentional? Or was that a different at bat and a different pitcher I'm thinking of?
 
2010-07-30 07:51:42 PM
Itys: Considering the first pitch from Venters sailed over Fielders head, and the second hit him in the back between the numbers, how could this not have been intentional? Or was that a different at bat and a different pitcher I'm thinking of?

Its the same situation, but since you believe it was intentional and nothing I tell you will make you think different, he threw a change up that got away from him that sailed over his head and followed that up by plunking him with a breaking pitch.

If you're a pitcher and you are going to intentionally hit a guy for any reason, why in the hell will you use anything but a fastball? At least the target will feel the fastball. The game on the next day, Tom Glavine was in the booth on the television side for the Braves and he concurred on that point and the fact that there was absolutely no legitimate reason for Venters to be trying to hit Fielder. Fielder's HR swing was analyzed and compared to his other HR swings and none were different. Hell he hit a long fly out that had the same swing after he got plunked.

Needless to say, no one can provide any evidence that Venters missing Fielder and then turning around and hitting him was intentional other than the fact of those two pitches.
 
2010-07-30 07:55:27 PM
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2010-07-30 08:01:10 PM
Vanakatherock: Itys: Considering the first pitch from Venters sailed over Fielders head, and the second hit him in the back between the numbers, how could this not have been intentional? Or was that a different at bat and a different pitcher I'm thinking of?

Its the same situation, but since you believe it was intentional and nothing I tell you will make you think different, he threw a change up that got away from him that sailed over his head and followed that up by plunking him with a breaking pitch.

If you're a pitcher and you are going to intentionally hit a guy for any reason, why in the hell will you use anything but a fastball? At least the target will feel the fastball. The game on the next day, Tom Glavine was in the booth on the television side for the Braves and he concurred on that point and the fact that there was absolutely no legitimate reason for Venters to be trying to hit Fielder. Fielder's HR swing was analyzed and compared to his other HR swings and none were different. Hell he hit a long fly out that had the same swing after he got plunked.

Needless to say, no one can provide any evidence that Venters missing Fielder and then turning around and hitting him was intentional other than the fact of those two pitches.


That sounds like a fair explanation. I have no beef with the Braves or Venters, just seemed odd at the time. Hopefully your right. As a Brewer fan it just gets old seeing there players getting plunked all the time. By the way that photo in the next post is hilarious.
 
2010-07-30 08:02:16 PM
First off, I am a Braves fan and I 100% percent agree that it looked bad to Brewers fans. However, the Braves were only down 2 or 3 runs and Bobby Cox has never been the type of manager that instructs his players to go ahead and throw the game away to make some kind of point. The Braves are in first place and have the best overall team in talent creeping up on them. They are not going to throw away games. Fielder had always crowded the plate because he likes the ball outside and tries to force pitchers to throw it out there, something that I am sure Bobby instructed Ventures to not give into. The first pitch was a slider and the worst umpire in the history of baseball was behind the plate (angel hernandez). He seemed to think that this was on purpose even though anybody who actually watches baseball knows that you don't throw at a batter with a slider. The next pitch nailed Prince right in his fat ass back but it was only because Johnny is not afraid to pitch inside. Not the first time Prince got hit and acted like a big spoiled baby about it. I understand why the Brewers are trying to trade the cry baby anyways.
 
2010-07-30 10:46:29 PM
I didn't realize that that dude was that good. wow.
 
2010-07-31 12:05:48 AM
Itys: Considering the first pitch from Venters sailed over Fielders head, and the second hit him in the back between the numbers, how could this not have been intentional? Or was that a different at bat and a different pitcher I'm thinking of?

Considering that the very next day Milwaukee's pitcher threw twice at Glauss and didnt even get ejected after the warning, makes it quite obvious that he shouldnt have been suspended.

The brewers have been hit the most because they crowd the plate, not because they are so fearsome.
 
2010-07-31 12:31:31 AM
Wow, I've followed baseball for a long time and don't recall a suspension ever being completely rescinded.

The Braves must have made one helluva case for Venters.
 
2010-07-31 12:37:23 AM
RobDownSouth: Wow, I've followed baseball for a long time and don't recall a suspension ever being completely rescinded.

Um, it's not even the first time this season. Cliff Lee?
 
2010-07-31 12:56:51 AM
RobDownSouth: Wow, I've followed baseball for a long time and don't recall a suspension ever being completely rescinded.

The Braves must have made one helluva case for Venters.


Yeah its because fielder is a fat tub of lard and crowds the plate from the dugout.
 
2010-07-31 09:22:00 AM
steamingpile: RobDownSouth: Wow, I've followed baseball for a long time and don't recall a suspension ever being completely rescinded.

The Braves must have made one helluva case for Venters.

Yeah its because fielder is a fat tub of lard and crowds the plate from the dugout.


and yet he can probably still outrun you
 
2010-07-31 09:28:49 AM
I like how some of you dumbasses think that Fielder (or his reaction to the plunking) had any influence on the handing out of the suspension in the first place.

Baseball doesn't work that way.
 
2010-07-31 09:29:12 AM
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2010-07-31 06:47:02 PM
Not a Brewers fan, but after reading the comments in the article and in the thread here I can safely say I will NEVER be a Braves fan.

What a bunch of douchbags.
 
2010-07-31 07:29:41 PM
The Viewer: Not a Brewers fan, but after reading the comments in the article and in the thread here I can safely say I will NEVER be a Braves fan.

What a bunch of douchbags.


Good. Snowflakes need not apply. Perhaps baseball is too... violent for you. Maybe curling is more your speed.
 
2010-08-01 12:56:12 AM
mloree: and yet he can probably still outrun you

Yeah, not really. I am under his real weight by about 150lbs and we all know his real weight is easily over 325lbs, hes a fat tub of shiat and makes haynesworth look in shape by comparison.

The Viewer: Not a Brewers fan, but after reading the comments in the article and in the thread here I can safely say I will NEVER be a Braves fan.

What a bunch of douchbags.


Awww we will miss you, I would feel worse about it if the brewers pitcher hadnt thrown twice at Glaus the very next day and barely got a warning for intentionally hitting people. Cry somewhere else.
 
2010-08-01 02:23:35 PM
The Viewer: Not a Brewers fan, but after reading the comments in the article and in the thread here I can safely say I will NEVER be a Braves fan.

What a bunch of douchbags.


It takes a special sort of team to not sell out playoff games.

/and then whine about traffic.
 
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