Yeah, Rescue Dawn was certainly no Red Dawn, lowestcommondenomitter.

sigdiamond2000: Yeah, Rescue Dawn was certainly no Red Dawn, lowestcommondenomitter.

B-b-but you had to pay attention and stuff and it was too long and there weren't enough shooty parts and it needed more hot female guards in sweaty clingy shirts and it was too hard to follow. Not like Toy Story 3 at all.

I read his biography years ago. A very interesting tale.

"Dieter Dengler" sounds very close to the porn name I used in my salad days.

The story is amazing, hero tag is well deserved, but what's all the hate on the movie? That was amazing stuff -- especially the work done with the actors to reduce their weight so they looked malnourished by the end of the movie.

If anyone is looking for more inspirational people, take a gander at Douglas Bader (new window)

His biography is "Reach for the Sky."

keithgabryelski: The story is amazing, hero tag is well deserved, but what's all the hate on the movie? That was amazing stuff -- especially the work done with the actors to reduce their weight so they looked malnourished by the end of the movie.

I think one guy (who shall remain nameless) is responsible for submitting about 90% of all music- and movie-related links to Fark, and his general MO is to phone in troll headlines about how stuff that is generally accepted as quite good actually sucks.

It's incredibly tiresome, unfunny, and unoriginal, but the modmineratoristrators seem to love him for some reason.

I have flown a number of vintage planes, but the A-1 is still on my list, the Spad or Sandy.

If subby is hating on Herzog then we have nothing to discuss here.

coco ebert: If subby is hating on Herzog then we have nothing to discuss here.

Yeah, hating on Herzog is Klaus Kinski's job. At least on the set, anyway.

I can't tell if Subby is being sarcastic or is genuinely a massive idiot.

MIA 1 and 2 were pretty good for their time. I like the fact they were shot at the same time.

Nabb1: "Dieter Dengler" sounds very close to the porn name I used in my salad days.

Dirty Dangler?

Dainty Diggler?

Deeper Dungler?

Herzog made 2 movies on this, and both are excellent. Dieter was a strangely exuberant and resilient guy. His crazy + Herzog's crazy made for a special kind of crazy that makes Little Dieter Needs To Fly fun AND hard-to-watch. Rescue Dawn was an excellent dramatization of the events--though there are some disagreements as to the accuracy of the portrayal of the other POWs.

The Steve Zahn hate is completely unjustified in this movie--he's excellent as is everyone else in the cast.

I recently watched that movie. It was not good, and made him seem like a crazy person.

Rakkim Epps: Anyone else remember that FlyNavy guy?

I heard he got a transfer to the Marine Core.

Crocoduck: It seems to me that when you cast this guy, you're not giving your full effort into making a good movie.

I thought it was a really good movie, and that Steve Zahn was surprisingly good in a serious role.

If it was a terrible movie, perhaps the submitter would have loved it. It's only cool to like things that everyone else hates, right?

JohnCarter: Sort of sad that he spent all that time and effort on his survival kit, silenced gun, and whatnot then gets captured day 1. Should have spent more time on evasion training

Have you ever been to SERE school? If not you should talk to someone who has been (my husband has). I'll have to ask him, but I seem to recall his saying that some of the scenarios they put him through were based on scenarios encountered by airmen during Vietnam. Not quite sure that Dengler could have trained any differently during that era and had a different outcome.

fireclown: freetomato: Have you ever been to SERE school? If not you should talk to someone who has been (my husband has). I'll have to ask him, but I seem to recall his saying that some of the scenarios they put him through were based on scenarios encountered by airmen during Vietnam. Not quite sure that Dengler could have trained any differently during that era and had a different outcome.

And sometimes your luck just runs out.

Exactly. His survival was nothing short of amazing given the circumstances, and I'm sure it is in part due to the training he received. The SERE program (as it is today, at least) is some seriously challenging training, and will break the weak. I've not been and am glad for it but my husband and one of my best girlfriends have. They beat your ass, lock you in a box, starve you and royally fark with your head. God forbid anyone ever has to use that training but it can keep them alive, that's for sure, even when their luck runs out.

Fear_and_Loathing: I have flown a number of vintage planes, but the A-1 is still on my list, the Spad or Sandy.

The Skyraider, along with the TBF Avenger and F2H Banshee are my top three favorite planes. The Skyraider is freaking incredible, from the amount of ordinance it can carry to its loitering time.

One of my friends, at work, served in the Army in Vietnam. His unit was walking down a dirt highway when four Skyraiders flew over them at about 200' up. He said he felt a lot better knowing they were up there. He also said he felt like he was in WWII after seeing piston engine planes flying overhead.

coco ebert: If subby is hating on Herzog then we have nothing to discuss here.


Seconded.

TheShavingofOccam123: Rakkim Epps: Anyone else remember that FlyNavy guy?

I heard he got a transfer to the Marine Core.

Now THAT'S funny.

PacManDreaming: The Skyraider, along with the TBF Avenger and F2H Banshee are my top three favorite planes. The Skyraider is freaking incredible, from the amount of ordinance it can carry to its loitering time.


My dad (just turned 89) flew Avengers in the South Pacific. Referred to them as "turkeys" but in a nice way.