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2003-06-06 07:44:22 PM
terrorists
 
2003-06-06 07:44:58 PM
no, im just messin with you guys
 
2003-06-06 07:45:32 PM
We wern't ment to fly, lets all drive.
 
2003-06-06 07:45:37 PM
We're gonna hear "terrorists" for the rest of our lives everytime this kinda thing happens
 
2003-06-06 07:45:42 PM
Could be...
 
2003-06-06 07:46:11 PM
yeah, lets all drive, I call shotgun.
 
2003-06-06 07:46:19 PM
I've been looking for links to this story for the past half hour then I got beat to it :(
 
2003-06-06 07:46:22 PM
LA's huge.
Could someone tell me *where* in LA?
 
2003-06-06 07:46:37 PM
air planes are the tool of the devil.
 
2003-06-06 07:46:47 PM
CONDITION RED!

CALL ASSCROFT!

HIDE CHENEY!

DON'T PANIC!!!

AHHHHHHH!!!!!!
 
2003-06-06 07:47:05 PM
NEWS: Man stubs toe, terrorists suspected.
 
2003-06-06 07:47:12 PM
What is a bulding?
 
2003-06-06 07:47:16 PM
This happened just a couple of blocks from where I work. There are about 15 news helicopters circling the site right now.
 
2003-06-06 07:47:18 PM
Ah, L.A. Always playing a poor second fiddle to NYC.


/insensitive bastard
 
2003-06-06 07:48:06 PM
You crash your plane, you jizz in your mouth; it happens.
 
2003-06-06 07:48:22 PM
601 Spaulding Ave., near Melrose Avenue and Fairfax High School (I think that's in Santa Monica?)
 
2003-06-06 07:48:39 PM
Ku_No_Ichi:

I think near the corner of Fairfax and Beverly, a few blocks from the Beverly Center.
 
2003-06-06 07:48:40 PM
Rightmindx -
Can you take and download some photos of what you're seeing?
Not to be morbid, just curious.
 
2003-06-06 07:49:13 PM
Fairfax district...used to work there. Near the Beverly Center. I think these days it's inhabited by Central American immigrants. It's also where you went to get your weed!

Don't live there no more.
 
2003-06-06 07:49:22 PM

Here is the type of plane this may be.

I don't know if its the same model. Its not an American Cessna 172 even. Just to show what it may have looked like...
 
2003-06-06 07:49:28 PM
 
2003-06-06 07:49:46 PM
CODE ORANGE! CODE ORANGE I SAY!
 
2003-06-06 07:49:51 PM
A Federal Aviation Administration duty officer said she knew only that a small plane had crash.

EBONIX!
 
2003-06-06 07:50:16 PM
Everyone is making jokes about it. People have been killed and injured in this, its not very funny
 
2003-06-06 07:50:38 PM


It's a good thing we had the terror alert system to warn us of this before it happened.

/rollseyes
 
2003-06-06 07:50:53 PM
Bob_Laublaw

I'm not close enough to it to get any actual pics of the site but I'll tape a photo of the smoke and helicopters and put it up in a few mins if you want. I'd recommended checking out the KTLA website (local network affiliate), that's the channel we've been following the story on here.
 
2003-06-06 07:51:36 PM
Nihil8r, that's perfect English.
 
2003-06-06 07:51:50 PM
This might be a terrorist, or it might just be a depressed person who didn't feel like going alone. Either way it really sucks and I hope that somehow no one in the apartment complex was killed.
 
2003-06-06 07:52:04 PM
It's actually near West Hollywood, in the Fairfax district. Mostly Jewish neighborhood.

Here's a Yahoo map to it:

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&ed=j_Ymp.p_0ToFhx68xhjENz37xbc2YVm1C 9ETxbEleoWU9EX1MU060xuiI3yTMT5.VSQ-&csz=hollywood,+ca&country=us
 
2003-06-06 07:52:33 PM
By the way, great editing job, Associated Press and ABC:

A Federal Aviation Administration duty officer said she knew only that a small plane had crash.
 
2003-06-06 07:52:43 PM
I'm downtown right now at Staples Center...I can't see nuttin. Well, who cares, I don't have to commute that way. Meh.

/jk not that insensitve.
 
2003-06-06 07:53:01 PM
 
2003-06-06 07:53:40 PM
The one reason I think it could be a terrorist attack is because it nose-dived into the building. Unless it was a student pilot and he pushed the yoke in too far, but still the plane would have recovered. Also, a system failure is unlikely, since the elevators would not just move by themselves.
 
2003-06-06 07:53:57 PM
Thanks, Rightmindx. It's not often that we get the opportunity to see shots of news events from a perspective other than the media's, so I had to ask.
 
2003-06-06 07:55:05 PM
*insensitive

/not that literate, either
 
2003-06-06 07:55:05 PM
Let's try that again"

clicky

I used to live nearby, and actually went to Fairfax High for 6 months.
 
2003-06-06 07:55:41 PM
It's not terrorism, it's either bad piloting or a plane malfunction. Besides is an apartment.
 
2003-06-06 07:55:55 PM
A resident of the area told KABC-TV that the plane went into the buildng about 3:50 p.m. Didn't see it come back out again, so I figured it'd crashed...

Anyways, direct cut and paste from the site, replete with spelling error. I didn't realize that people in LA speak with typos... Interesting slang.
 
2003-06-06 07:56:27 PM
Victor Alpha-

Trust me, there is no reason that part of L.A. would be a terrorist target.
 
2003-06-06 07:56:40 PM
Here's where the apartment is located:

601 N Spaulding Ave
Los Angeles, CA
90036-1816, US



Mapquest link
 
2003-06-06 07:56:51 PM
BEYOND THE STAPLE CENTER YOU CAN SEE AMERICA

amateur photograph of the plane moments before impact!!



shiat it wasnt' tarrorists it waz nazis!~~
 
2003-06-06 07:56:55 PM
Local newsbroadcasters are reporting that the Santa Monica Airport (small private airport about 8 miles away) is reporting a plane missing. According to reports, the plane was on the way to land.
 
2003-06-06 07:56:58 PM
Weaps-


The Fairfax district is mostly Russian Jews, not Central Americans. Not much weed but a lot of borsht.
 
2003-06-06 07:58:13 PM
SpeedBuggy:

Can you repost your first pic to include the guy running from the crash like a cartoon character?

Bin lookin for that pic for a while.

Thanx!
 
2003-06-06 07:59:06 PM
VictorAlpha
If the pilot ran out of fuel and was trying to extend the glide, he might have pulled back on the stick causing a stall. Trying to recover from a low altitude stall might have caused the nose dive. Just a thought on how an accident could have happened.
My reading though said that only one guys described it a nose dive, so it doesn't look like we have a whole heckuva lot of info yet.
 
2003-06-06 07:59:38 PM
Michael Savage is behind this.
 
2003-06-06 07:59:45 PM
From the KTLA website:


Apartment Building Set Ablaze When Plane Crashes On It

By ROBERT JABLON
Associated Press Writer

June 6, 2003, 4:33 PM PDT

FAIRFAX DISTRICT -- A small plane nosedived into an apartment complex Friday, setting the three-story building ablaze and injuring 10 people.

Five of the victims were critically injured, said Fire Department Battalion Chief Bob Franco.

Witnesses saw the plane plunge into the Fairfax district building about 3:50 p.m.

"I looked up and saw the plane just do a nosedive," area resident Aaron Hooker said. "It didn't seem real."

The building, which had about 30 units. burned fiercely at first, but firefighters had the blaze under control in about a half-hour.

The origin of the plane was not known. A Federal Aviation Administration duty officer said she knew only that a small plane had crashed.

Television cameraman Adam Krolfifer of High Point, N.C., was in line waiting to see a taping of "The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn" when he heard a plane overhead.

"We were waiting at CBS Studios. I heard a plane, like he was doing acrobatic moves. About four minutes later, we saw a huge plume of black smoke," said Krolfifer, who works for WGHP and was in Los Angeles on vacation.

"It sounded like it was making maneuvers, the engine getting stressed out," he said.

Police and firefighters helped stunned residents from the structure that had at least 30 units.

A Federal Aviation Administration duty officer said she knew only that a small plane had crashed.

Copyright 2003, KTLA



I wonder if any FAA duty officers know anything about this?


(mmm.... borscht...)
 
2003-06-06 08:00:01 PM
Hmmmmm, suddenly living in a 3 story appartment building near a major international airport no longer seems like the brilliant idea it first seemed.
 
2003-06-06 08:00:14 PM
Great now Bush will declare a Jyhid, er War, on small plane manufacturers and Brazil.
 
2003-06-06 08:00:38 PM
Alea711 right, I was thinking the Alvarado blvd district. Vermont/Western/Normandie. It's been about 10 years.
 
2003-06-06 08:01:27 PM
er Jihad even.
 
2003-06-06 08:01:28 PM
The plane probably crashed on take-off, hence the large fire from the full fuel tanks and reports of a large explosion and fireball.
 
2003-06-06 08:01:39 PM
The number of casualties was not known, police Officer Jason Lee said.

Skateboarding, acting, cop...the guy can do ANYTHING!
 
2003-06-06 08:01:58 PM
EVERYBODY RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

!!
 
2003-06-06 08:04:28 PM
Come on everybody let's get ready for terror,
The terrorists are coming for you and me!
Come on everybody prepare for terror,
Or you'll be sleeping with the fishes under the sea!

/Terry the Terror Clam from JKL
 
2003-06-06 08:04:35 PM
He Hate Me-

That place is like half an hour from the airport...unless your flying. Then it's a lot closer.
 
Xur
2003-06-06 08:05:27 PM
LA? Hollywood? They're attacking the Baldwins! It's not terrorists, it's Canada! BLAME CANADA!
 
2003-06-06 08:05:44 PM
socal sucks.

norcal forever!
 
2003-06-06 08:06:42 PM
Canada is full of terrorists. We were fooled to believe it was Saudi Arabia, like the passports said.
 
2003-06-06 08:07:52 PM
You think the terrorists would start out with a cessna and work their way up to the jumbo jets. Seems backasswards too me.
 
Xur
2003-06-06 08:08:41 PM
Seriously though, anybody who thinks this is the work of terrorists needs to get their head examined. Taking out a slum in LA is a big step backwards from taking down the WTC.

A few years ago a crazy man with a gun took over a bus headed downtown (Seattle), shot the driver and forced the bus off a bridge. Nobody ever thought terrorists, and guess what? It turned out to be the fault of one crazy guy with a gun.
 
2003-06-06 08:09:11 PM
if it really was terrorists, they did a poor job. I definately am not scared.
 
2003-06-06 08:11:09 PM
Wow, I used to live a block down the street on Genesee. My landlord's wife is probably in the middle of it all telling the paramedics and firemen to get out of her neighborhood because she doesn't like strangers. Strong as an ox but dumb as a box.

He_Hate_Me: There's no airport big or small near the Fairfax District.
 
2003-06-06 08:12:44 PM
I really wish this didn't make it to Fark and I don't care if it's on other media outlets. We really need to get over this idea that every damn thing that happens in the world is related to terrorism.
 
2003-06-06 08:13:45 PM
Run to the Hills!

/Iron Maiden
 
2003-06-06 08:14:30 PM
Bob_Laublaw

Sorry, no good pics from my vantage point. All I got was this poor shot of the helicopters, highlighted by the red arrows.
 
2003-06-06 08:15:13 PM
Run for your Life!

/Iron Panties
 
2003-06-06 08:15:18 PM
Trying again:

 
2003-06-06 08:16:41 PM
Hey Rightmindx--
Is traffic in that area at a standstill? I'm about to make my 75 minute commute (for 13 miles!) home...
 
2003-06-06 08:17:04 PM
06-06-03 08:12:44 PM DrToast

I really wish this didn't make it to Fark and I don't care if it's on other media outlets. We really need to get over this idea that every damn thing that happens in the world is related to terrorism.


toasty, not only did it make it to fark but it was INSTANTLY approved for the main page with no delay. this was undoubtedly meant to appease me by preventing 6,000 regular farkers from submitting the story over and over and over again thereby causing me to scream and bang my head on my desk harder than usual.
 
2003-06-06 08:19:53 PM
Luluminescent

Our runner here at the office was just out there making his rounds a few minutes ago. He said traffic surprisingly is not too bad since most people know about the accident and are avoiding that area so unless you're going to be headed towards or passing through the Beverly Center district traffic will be slightly worse than usual but not at a standstill. Avoid Melrose, Fairfax, Beverly and surrounding areas if possible.
 
2003-06-06 08:22:57 PM
Any pics from news sites yet? Farkers, please post as they come in.
 
2003-06-06 08:23:59 PM
And people thought air cars (a la Jetsons) were a good idea...

I, for one, do not the general populace flying over my head in aerocars, especially after 2AM and the bars have just closed...
 
2003-06-06 08:24:25 PM
NashvilleDave

Here ya go:
 
2003-06-06 08:24:27 PM
wasnt officer jason lee in another news article awhile back? i remember laughing my ass off when seeing that on a fark article some time ago.. damned if i can remember what it was, tho..
 
2003-06-06 08:24:29 PM
Hmmmmm, suddenly living in a 3 story appartment building near a major international airport no longer seems like the brilliant idea it first seemed.

He_Hate_Me: There's no airport big or small near the Fairfax District


Yeah, but those three story apartment buildings still reach unnaturally towards the heavens. Typical Los Angeles arrogance.
 
2003-06-06 08:24:42 PM
who was seriously blaming terrorists in the first place? seems you are too stuck on the terrorism thingy
 
2003-06-06 08:24:49 PM
Denofslack
Mostly Jewish neighborhood.

There you go.
 
2003-06-06 08:26:31 PM
06-06-03 07:52:04 PM Denofslack
It's actually near West Hollywood, in the Fairfax district. Mostly Jewish neighborhood.


but who would try to kill a bunch of jewish people?

not the "religion of peace", that's for sure...
 
2003-06-06 08:28:44 PM
This was a little too close to Fish Grill and Pink's for me. If they got hit I'd probably starve to death.

And Zur, the homes around that neighborhood can go for between 500K to 750K. Not much of a "slum" if you ask me.


/insulted Hancock Park resident lashes out.
 
2003-06-06 08:29:09 PM
Rightmindx --
Thank you kindly!
 
2003-06-06 08:29:25 PM
The number of casualties was not known, police Officer Jason Lee said.



"I'd rather not exist than go back to that. And if everyone has to go down with me, so be it."
 
2003-06-06 08:31:26 PM
Alea711

Yeah, but those three story apartment buildings still reach unnaturally towards the heavens. Typical Los Angeles arrogance.

I'm assuming that's sarcasm. LA is the one city where the buildings aren't tall enough. 95% of our buildings are less than 5 storys tall, forcing the city to continuously expand outward and making it increasingly difficult to get from place to place. Also, the lack of a good public transportation system pretty much guarantees you're stuck in traffic no matter where you want to go.
 
2003-06-06 08:31:43 PM
"Typical Los Angeles arrogance."


??? Explain this please.
 
2003-06-06 08:33:04 PM
Speaking of rent in that area, a friend of mine lives less than a block from there, and they pay about $1650/month for a 2 BR. In case anyone was wondering.
 
2003-06-06 08:35:02 PM
"95% of our buildings are less than 5 storys tall, forcing the city to continuously expand outward and making it increasingly difficult to get from place to place"

Does that have anything to do with that earthquake thing you've got going on?
 
2003-06-06 08:35:31 PM
Chingasman, I hate those terror thingees.
 
2003-06-06 08:35:45 PM
You mean, El Apartment Building.
 
2003-06-06 08:36:13 PM
Thanks, Rightmindx!
 
2003-06-06 08:36:54 PM
I'm sure LA resident can relate; I was there for a couple of weeks, and got stuck on "the 5" for two hours. Not much of a traffic jam story, except that it was 2-4 AM. Once we got the hell out of dodge, we didn't go back. I'm sure this little fire has screwed things up even worse.
 
2003-06-06 08:37:43 PM
Rhiannon

Good point, but then again San Francisco and Seattle are also earthquake prone cities and they have tall buildings that are reinforced to withstand the tremors.
 
2003-06-06 08:39:03 PM
I was just wondering if that was an actual factor not knowing myself.
 
2003-06-06 08:39:17 PM
Rightmindx, Onceler

I thought He Hate Me's post about it being stupid to build a three story apartment building near an international airport was funny, because Fairfax isn't near the airport and three stories isn't really that tall. It was sarcasm.

/skip it
 
2003-06-06 08:40:31 PM
 
2003-06-06 08:41:15 PM
Screen cap:

 
2003-06-06 08:41:22 PM
I actually thought about giving a thoughtful response that included aerodynamics, general aviation aircraft and the like. But then again I took a step back and remembered this is Fark. Instead, I shall wait to see what else pops up.
 
2003-06-06 08:41:38 PM
Don't even think about attacking it, you'll have to deal with me.


 
2003-06-06 08:42:02 PM
It must be terrorists. That or somebody that had way too many drinks.
 
2003-06-06 08:42:39 PM
for the foodies out there:
that's like, five blocks behind Pink's World famous hotdogs.
 
2003-06-06 08:43:39 PM
err.. what Onceler said.

*sigh*
 
2003-06-06 08:45:08 PM
The building is 8 miles from Santa Monica Airport. I havn't been there, so I can't comment on how big it is, but unknowingly, most people that aren't rural DO live near a regional airport. In nashville we have the International Airport, then 4 smaller ones spread across the city. So if you live in Davidson County,(municipal Nashville), you cannot be more that 15-20 miles from one. I'm sure the number of smaller airports in LA is rather large. I'm guessing 10-15.
 
2003-06-06 08:47:28 PM
How does "Pink's" compare to "In and Out Burger"? That's the only thing I miss from LA. Well, the babes are all hot, so I guess I miss them too.
 
2003-06-06 08:48:46 PM
NashvilleDave

I'm sure the number of smaller airports in LA is rather large. I'm guessing 10-15.


You got that right. Off the top of my head, I can think of LAX (the major one), Burbank, Van Nuys, Santa Monica, Long Beach, John Wayne (further out there, in Orange County), Ontario and I'm sure there are many others I've never heard of.
 
2003-06-06 08:49:06 PM
farking Chechens. Now watch what Putin will do. And he'll do it claiming it's a preemptive strike much as our invasion of Iraq was.
 
2003-06-06 08:49:11 PM
If you're on a plane from John Wayne Airport in Orange County going four hundred miles an hour towards Davidson County, and you have three bags of peanuts, how long before you...

/nothin'
 
2003-06-06 08:49:15 PM
Thanks for the screencap, Kremit.
Gotta love Headline News' "fill the screen with nearly useless info" policy.

- smoke is dark
- building located within an urban, not rural, area
- firefighters may attempt to put out fire
- trees on boulevard are safe
 
2003-06-06 08:50:13 PM
I live a few blocks away and I can tell you, without a doubt, this WAS NOT TERRORISM. Just a tragic accident.

The plane narrowly missed Fairfax High School, which was out at the time, but their field was full of about 100 or so student athletes practicing after school. Some are speculating that the pilot may have lost control, aimed for the field, realized it was full of people and swerved at the last minute. However, amateur video reveals that the plane was in a vertical, spiraling dive, so I doubt the pilot had any control at all. Also, the "hole" in the roof of the apartment building is consistent with a vertical impact.

While this is, traditionally, a Jewish neighborhood, it's still pretty diverse. In my area there area actually more Asians than anyone else. The Grove (a large outdoor shopping mall) and Farmers Market are nearby, both full of locals and tourists, as well as CBS Studios. Add to that the fact that you would have basically every major Hollywood tourist spot to choose from within a 2 or 3 mile radius, it seems odd that someone attempting to inflict harm would choose a small apartment building as a target.

Also, two bedroom / two bath apartments in my building run from $1500 - 1800. Hardly an LA "slum" as someone put it above. This is actually a pretty nice place to live, unless a plane lands on your head.

Also, drove home from work about an hour after it happened, driving East down Wilshire, and I couldn't tell a difference in traffic from what it normally is, which says something about driving in LA. If you're heading north on Fairfax or La Brea, however, good luck.
 
2003-06-06 08:51:01 PM
I think this is all a stunt to distract us from the real news: the Martha Stewart scandal.
 
2003-06-06 08:51:27 PM
What if the terrorists are protesting Drew allowing boobies posts again?
 
2003-06-06 08:52:16 PM
Pink's is to In 'N Out as Christian Slater is to Jack Nicholson. (I know Pink's is older, I'm talking quality.)

/flamebait
 
2003-06-06 08:52:20 PM
Pinks is a hot dog stand that sells just about every type of hot dog you can imagine and every single one is damn tasty.

In-and-Out is a chain burger joint that sells mainly 3 types of burgers. Regular, with cheese, and the double-double but you can ask for variations of them that aren't shown on the menu. They're damn good too.
 
2003-06-06 08:53:31 PM
I'm watching a live feed from the scene from ktla.com right now. Unedited coverage. It's great! Not that I think the situation is great, but that we can see it that is.
 
2003-06-06 08:53:57 PM
06-06-03 07:45:32 PM Sp00n32

We wern't ment to fly, lets all drive


We weren't meant to be drunk at 7:45 in the evening, either, but you and I have sure shown them!
 
2003-06-06 08:54:57 PM
EWWWWWW! They just showed what looked like a burning body inside the building.
 
2003-06-06 08:54:58 PM
They hit it.
 
Xur
2003-06-06 08:57:10 PM
06-06-03 08:28:44 PM Onceler

the homes around that neighborhood can go for between 500K to 750K. Not much of a "slum" if you ask me.

Eh, to each his own. I recently drove through that area on I-10. The smog from LA reached 90 miles inland, so thick that you could barely see anything next to the freeway. What a toxic wasteland.

ALL of LA is a slum, if you ask me.
 
2003-06-06 08:59:59 PM
Damn. Someone beat me to the Jason Lee reference
 
2003-06-06 09:00:16 PM
Well fark me. After all the hubub about how it was live and the dramatic footage, It looks to have been actually taped now. Sorry for mis-leading you, but if you're interested, it is worth watching anyway.
 
2003-06-06 09:00:18 PM
Xur

Not every city can be as bright and beautiful as Seattle.
 
2003-06-06 09:01:18 PM
Alea711,
Christian Slater!???

C'mon, Pink's Three-peat L.A. Laker Dog (i hate the name but it is delicious) is three dogs, like 5 pieces of bacon, chili, cheese, and onions wrapped in a big tortilla! Swimming in that orange grease, it will probably take a full year off your life but its one of the crappy years at the end. That's got to be at least the Tom Hanks or Mel Gibson of bad for you foods.
 
2003-06-06 09:02:00 PM
If you have 45 minutes to spare waiting in a line for a "Pink's" Hot Dog, go right ahead. I'd rather go to Oki Dog on Pico for a Pastrami Burrito. In'n'Out Burger is definitely the best regional burger chain in California, but check out Original Tommy's on Beverly & Rampart for the best bellybomb...or maybe just hang out with the local Mara Salvatrucha 18th St. gang.

Fish Grill, great place, but isn't it shut down 1/3 of the year for Passover, Yom Kippor, and Rod Carew's birthday?
 
2003-06-06 09:02:07 PM
Doesn't seem to be affecting traffic that much.
 
2003-06-06 09:03:14 PM
Hot Dogs make me uncomfortable. I was just talking about their burgers. Not really fair I guess.
 
2003-06-06 09:04:50 PM
Xur, OK, sorry it was such a bad experience for you. Just don't come back, alright. One less person for me to explain how to pronounce Cahuenga Blvd. to.
 
2003-06-06 09:05:25 PM
06-06-03 08:57:10 PM Xur

Not to pile on, but you drove through "that area" on I-10? That's about three miles south, and in this city a lot can change in 3 miles. If you're near the freeway, land value is low and the neighborhoods aren't so great. In fact, that area sucks and I never stop once I get near the freeway. About the time you hit Olympic, coming north, things get pretty nice. In fact, homes just east of me, in the Larchmont area, go for $750,000 and up.
 
2003-06-06 09:05:33 PM
Onceler

That place looks amazing and awesome. I can't even see the food from the outside pic, but just the signs scream "Eat here or die unfulfilled"
 
2003-06-06 09:06:15 PM
"Fish Grill, great place, but isn't it shut down 1/3 of the year for Passover, Yom Kippor, and Rod Carew's birthday?"


That's funny. Also its true.
 
2003-06-06 09:07:05 PM
iRonIc neXt pOsT is AIrPlane
 
2003-06-06 09:07:42 PM
Only been to LA once and the smog wasn't that bad. Ok, it was 1975 but it was reasonably fresh smelling.
 
2003-06-06 09:07:51 PM
Better check to see if the pilot was on Accutane.
 
2003-06-06 09:08:34 PM
"One less person for me to explain how to pronounce Cahuenga Blvd. to."

Ha, Oncelar. And La Cienega, Los Feliz...
 
2003-06-06 09:08:44 PM
NashvilleDave - if In 'n'n Out is a 10, Pinks is a 6. upgrade to an 8 if you've been drinking.
the thing about Pinks - if you have one on Friday, you don't really feel like eating until maybe a salad on Sunday night.
 
2003-06-06 09:08:54 PM
06-06-03 08:47:28 PM NashvilleDave
How does "Pink's" compare to "In and Out Burger"?


They are completely different, but both completely wonderful.
I can get In 'n' Out here, but damn I miss Pink's...and Farmer's Market...and The Grove...and the Beverly Center...and the Pantry...and that Thai joint on Fairfax, etc.
:(
 
2003-06-06 09:10:20 PM
Onceler
I can't believe you found a picture with so few people at Pink's.
 
2003-06-06 09:16:11 PM
Speaking of Fairfax, I just got my "You've drank enough beer to get your name on our wall" shamrock over at Tom Bergin's pub on Fairfax, about ten blocks from the fire. Tom Bergin's? Irish coffee anyone?

/increasingly localizing thread
 
2003-06-06 09:17:53 PM
I live just about 4 blocks away from this
 
2003-06-06 09:24:14 PM
Alea711
I played third base on Tom Bergin's pub's softball team about 5 years ago. Fun little place.
 
2003-06-06 09:24:24 PM
OK, if it HAD killed anyone it would have killed either:

a) jocks who are largely useless after graduation to anyone but the khaki and backward hat industries.
b) aspiring actors/writers/directors who also happen to be waiters/waitresses/busboys.


Thank god no one important would have died.
 
2003-06-06 09:30:07 PM
"OK, if it HAD killed anyone it would have killed... aspiring actors/writers/directors who also happen to be waiters/waitresses/busboys... Thank god no one important would have died."

As opposed to aspiring playwrites, eh? ;)

/reads more Fark profiles...
 
2003-06-06 09:31:19 PM
9/11 part II this ain't.
 
2003-06-06 09:32:32 PM
LOL

Good eye, Shower_in_my_Socks. Like someone who has this in their profile:

and in my spare time I write plays, animate like Ralph Bakshee, watercolor...

should be talking sh!t about actors, writers, and directors.
 
2003-06-06 09:32:53 PM
Does anyone else find it seriously f@%#ed up that, now, anytime the smallest little thing happens in America, like a small plane landing on an apartment building, it's instantly international news? More people probably died in CA today in traffic accidents...
 
2003-06-06 09:36:44 PM
Urban renewal, baby.

It's high time LA had another riot that burns down a quarter of the city. Maybe this will be enough ti stir up some civil unrest?
 
2003-06-06 09:37:38 PM
Thanks, DrToast. Exactly.

And besides, waiters/waitresses are people too. Especially the hot waitresses in Hollywood... so many babes... boobies...

mmmmm, happy thoughts...
 
2003-06-06 09:38:08 PM
Shower_in_my_socks,

I agree with your concept. However, this particular bit was news worthy.
 
2003-06-06 09:54:37 PM
Put your tinfoil hats on, everyone...
 
2003-06-06 10:06:25 PM
The real story is why is Jason Lee a cop now?
 
2003-06-06 10:06:36 PM

Holy shiat! Picture taken just moments before the crash....




not.
 
2003-06-06 10:07:45 PM
Santa Monica airport is a small airport. I work 2 blocks from the airport and it was cloudy here. If it was a small Cessna landing at Santa Monica durring the daytime while it was cloudy, it was probably an instrument flight lesson.
 
2003-06-06 10:09:23 PM
Holy Fark! AF1 went down? Cheney is in command? God help us all.

/obvious flame instigation
 
2003-06-06 10:09:47 PM
ah, PSA..."catch our smile"

/runs
 
2003-06-06 10:21:50 PM


When people run in circles its a very very
 
2003-06-06 10:40:43 PM
 
2003-06-06 11:02:36 PM
mad world....
 
2003-06-06 11:12:12 PM
I can't get over how many farking helicopters are in this town. When something like this happens, I feel like a villager near the good surfing beach in Apocalypse Now.
 
2003-06-06 11:26:22 PM
SIRJONNYINLA

You got that right and then some. I live in the beachwood cyn area and I swear it's a frickin flyover corridor not to mention the hovering mosquitos(news heli's) at least once a wk. Word.
 
2003-06-06 11:48:04 PM
I'm happy to report that none of the Sports By Brooks girls were injured. One happened to be in the building, but fortunately her driver-side airbags deployed upon impact.
 
2003-06-06 11:58:34 PM
is this the big one?

we've been waiting.....
 
Xur
2003-06-07 12:04:51 AM
"One less person for me to explain how to pronounce Cahuenga Blvd. to."

Ha, Oncelar. And La Cienega, Los Feliz...


Right. Because it's so hard to pronounce words in a phonetic language like Spanish.

/rolls eyes

Oh, and by "that area", I just meant the LA area. I didn't actually drive through town, just around the outskirts on the freeways. The air was so foul I could hardly see, and I could taste it from 90 miles away. I could feel my lungs blackening as I drove.

To be fair, I end up down there once every year or two (lots of family) and that was the worst I've ever seen it. Still, it was so disgusting I couldn't imagine EVER living there. Not that Seattle won't be exactly the same in another 20 years...
 
2003-06-07 12:06:30 AM
Sirjonnyinla:

Shouldn't that be, "driver's-side FUNBAGS?"
 
2003-06-07 12:20:41 AM
phonetic language?

cahuenga pronounced phonetically would be 'kuh-hu-en-gah.'

correct pronunciation would be 'ka-whain-gah.'

spanish is not a phonetic language.
 
2003-06-07 12:26:40 AM
"He banged on two doors before being turned back by smoke and flames. His landlady came out of her room and, after saving her dog Fluffy, they managed to escape the flames.

"She just asked me to get Fluffy. I got the dog and we got out of the building," Harris said."

FLUFFY??????
 
2003-06-07 12:35:23 AM
DrToast-
the last time I ate at the Pantry a 2 foot tall rat threatened me and also the bum who pissed his pants laying on the sidewalk was cool also... ex-mayor Dick should clean that place up...
 
2003-06-07 12:37:36 AM
Santa Monica Airport is very small most people don't even know it's there.And anyway what about the pig???
And the police are treating the scene as a crime scene not an accident.So W.T.F. it's the media that are shouting terrorsim because of that.
 
2003-06-07 01:48:37 AM
Just wanted to say, I live about a mile away from there and still, at 10:45pm, there are police and/or news helicopters circling the scene.

Not that there aren't police helicopters circling L.A. constantly anyway.

Also nice to know I have so many neighbors who are FARKers. Also, to those of you who don't live here who are trying to sum up the layout of this city, thanks for the laughs! Especially you, Xur. I know many fine folks who have lived in both L.A. and Seattle, and all agree that they preferred L.A. Why? The people.
 
2003-06-07 01:53:54 AM
dereksd, well of course if you use english phoenetics it isn't...but if you know how to pronounce each letter in spanish, it's really a piece of cake.

in spanish, phoenetically, h is silent, and the ue gives the wey sound. perfectly phoenetic, if you know what the phoenetics are.
 
2003-06-07 02:06:08 AM
Who remembers that dumbass kid in Florida who pulled the same stunt?

I read the article...terrorism isn't even mentioned...I say just stay tuned and don't go half-cocked....

So are we at red now?
 
2003-06-07 02:13:02 AM
That was weird, I'm normally working immediately next to the Santa Monica airport, but I was helping a friend move in West Hollywood. Saw the fire while eating at Mel's, but didn't know anything about it until we tried to drive down Beverly almost to Fairfax to go to Pampa. Looking at the mapquest thing above, that was all of four blocks from it.

Traffic wasn't horrible though, but they were directing traffic at Beverly and Fairfax, and I understand Fairfax was closed at that point.

Speaking of, for all you farkers that live near there, there's a girl who works at the Pampa on Beverly who is absolutely farking gorgeous. Go check her out. Good lord, I was reduced to a mumbling idiot, she was SO HOT.
 
2003-06-07 02:45:14 AM
Mofomisfit....right...and which language are we using here?
 
2003-06-07 03:13:51 AM
the fact that you're speaking english doesn't negate the fact that spanish is phoenetic. you may have an argument that the street sign isn't obviously easily pronouncable to the average english speaker, and phoenetically the word doesn't work out, but that's not what you said. you said spanish isn't phoenetic, which is virtually the opposite of the truth. spanish is much more intuitively phoenetic than say, english. the kicker, of course, is the word phoenetic itself, which is fonetico in spanish. much better, more streamlined rendition of sound.
 
2003-06-07 03:22:38 AM
Yes....I agree it's a laugh seeing people try and figure out LA. LA has various parts to it. If you don't understand it, you probably never quite will, especially the culture here.

Never understand how people saw everyone is selfish or whatever, or not the same as small towns. Well, you know what, you are what you make of a situation. Wanna know someone, get out there and make your prescense(sp?) known....say hi, etc.

You know, the smog isn't bad in LA only till we get warm. Not that I'm gonna say we're NOT a smoggy city. But smog happens when the air gets trapped from heat and no wind to push it away. During the "winter", the smog isn't such a big deal. It's the warmer spring and summer days that aren't "picturesque."

Still can't beat a winter day where it's clear as can be and you can see the mountains and beach at the same time. At certain points in LA, like at the Getty, you can see the two and Catalina Island as well.

I don't claim to know other cities(aside from Las Vegas) but I know my LA. The good and bad of it. :)

And I like the good more than the bad.

Oh....and I wish the plane hadn't crashed.

Bye.
 
2003-06-07 03:46:50 AM
I can't believe no one mentioned Canter's only a couple blocks away. If the plane would have hit that, Oi vey!
 
Xur
2003-06-07 05:11:15 AM
DerekSD, quit proving yourself to be a moron. The language we're using here is obviously Spanish, as it's a Spanish word. Anybody who has studied even the most basic Spanish knows it is absolutely a phonetic language. That is, if you know how a word is spelled, you know how it is pronounced, because the letters always sound the same. True, there are some letter pairs that sound different, but these pairs are also phonetic. Why the hell would I try to use rules of English grammar to pronounce a Spanish word? It's no great challenge to see a word in SoCal that looks Spanish and know how to pronounce it. The fact that you think it is can only be a testament to your own ignorance.

I'd also like to see how you fare trying to pronounce words like "Puyallup" and "Sequim" - you know, since you seem to place such great importance on trivialities like knowing how to pronounce place names.

And for the rest of you, as I said, I've been to LA many times and that was the worst pollution I've ever seen there by far. Still, the knowledge that it does get that bad, even if only for a few days a year, would make me want to move asap. Even Seattle is starting to get smoggy in the summertime - the only reason it doesn't get really bad is that our crappy weather usually cleans the air out before too long. In a few years it won't be enough, though. I could blame all you Californians who have moved up here in the last couple of decades, but it's really the fault of our dysfunctional government that can't pull their heads out long enough build a decent mass transit system, no matter how many times we vote for one.
 
2003-06-07 06:45:06 AM
Sivart

I was thinking of Canter's too. They'd have deserved it though for forgetting my cole slaw TWICE IN A ROW (bastards). Actually, it would have been better if they'd hit Damiano's, the pizza place across the street from Canter's. God I hate that place. Guy who works there is a bastard.

I work in the Fairfax district, and when I was there at about 5:30, they were directing traffic (rather needlessly)at the corner of Fairfax and Beverly. There was a sign that said "Road closed due to Parade" on hand... guess they were out of "Road closed due to Plane Crash" signs.

Other notable establishments in the area: Largo, the club which a few hours later would be filled with quasi-celebrities watching Jon Brion and wannabes hoping to catch a glimpse of Fiona Apple; The Laemmle theatre currently showing the Israel Film Festival; That crazy new Exxon station that cost a couple million and took about two years to build.

And of course the Grove. Why, oh why couldn't it have hit the Grove?

Not that I want anyone to die or anything.
 
2003-06-07 05:09:28 PM
I was on my roof when I heard the crash and then saw the smoke.

Oh, any single girls want to go out to dinner tonight? send me an email hll­y­wood26­m[nospam-﹫-backwards]oohay*c­om
 
2003-06-07 10:42:02 PM
who cares?

this isnt big enough to be interesting.
 
2003-06-09 10:15:20 AM
83 year old lady trips, breaks leg. Terrorists suspected. Man-hunt for Osama full throttle again.
 
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