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(Boston Globe)   70-year-old firefighter dies of heart attack after blaze. In other news you can still be a firefighter at 70 years old   (boston.com) divider line 55
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2010-07-27 12:06:04 AM
The best defense against these old burning buildings are guys who were around when they were built.
 
2010-07-27 05:19:56 AM
jaylectricity: The best defense against these old burning buildings are guys who were around when they were built.

Or when fire was discovered.
 
2010-07-27 05:50:58 AM
Well... apparently, you can't.
 
2010-07-27 05:51:48 AM
Looks like that firefighter couldn't....*takes off sunglasses* ....take the heat.


/YEEEEAHHHH
 
2010-07-27 05:54:19 AM
A little off thread, but has anyone else noticed that fire generally just burns things?
 
2010-07-27 05:54:46 AM
Oakenhelm: Looks like that firefighter couldn't....*takes off sunglasses* ....take the heat.


/YEEEEAHHHH


u made me lol....
 
2010-07-27 05:56:41 AM
I hate when people call these honorary firefighters anything close to the real thing. I work with several volunteer firefighters and they are all young and in tip top shape. They have rigorous physical standards to which they are held, because dying on the job isn't acceptable.

Letting an old fogey like this take part in actual firefighting activities is an affront to all firefighters who put their lives on the line every time they go out. This guy put his life on the line simply by virtue of being old. He's not a hero. He's an encumbrance upon the real firefighters who saved the day that day.

I don't believe it is a good policy to bad mouth our elders, but certainly one shouldn't sit by and let mediocrity pass for standard operating procedure.
 
2010-07-27 05:58:44 AM
Oakenhelm: Looks like that firefighter couldn't....*takes off sunglasses* ....take the heat.


/YEEEEAHHHH


Crap. That was funny. Pretty sure that means I shouldn't be up right now...
 
2010-07-27 06:01:28 AM
BadAnalogyGuy: but certainly one shouldn't sit by and let mediocrity pass for standard operating procedure.

When SOP makes it's way up to mediocrity, I'll be impressed...
 
2010-07-27 06:06:38 AM
The trouble with dying from a heart attack is you're dead.
 
DuX
2010-07-27 06:18:40 AM
Hard to think of any job where experience is not more important than class time and training.
Well, except for Kamikaze pilot or suicide bomber.

Seriously, it's small town fire department's we're talking about here, pitching in to help a neighboring town, we don't do bucket brigades anymore so it's down to whoever signs up and shows up.
He could just as easily have met the same end on the golf course or mowing the lawn but instead was helping his community.

Hat's off to you old fireman dude!

When I expire in my dotage, I hope my demise rather involves piles of cash, expensive booze, cheap women, viagra and my naked wrinkly ass.
Though I suppose my second choice would be thrilling heroics.
 
2010-07-27 06:20:11 AM
BadAnalogyGuy

"He's not a hero. He's an encumbrance upon the real firefighters who saved the day that day."

Lighten up. In a town like Otis, the FD is almost as much a social organization as a public safety one. I've taught firefighters in some of those western MA towns and they can be fairly casual. Obviously he shouldn't have been inside, but for all we know he was running the pump. Strenuous, but not unreasonable for someone in good shape. I've certainly seen my share of fat/marginally fit 30 year old FFs and some 70 year old that are in very good shape.
 
2010-07-27 06:20:37 AM
When I am 70 years old, I still a lawyer.
 
2010-07-27 06:21:38 AM
video man: When I am 70 years old, I still a lawyer.

Crap. The one time I try to point out a flaw from Subby, and I fark up.
 
2010-07-27 06:25:34 AM
video man~

I still a poster.
 
2010-07-27 06:29:30 AM
My father-in-law is 70 and he built his own large cabin in the woods. Just he and his 70 year old wife. They dragged everything 2km into the woods and built it from scratch. They're in better shape than my 38 year old self. I'm positive he could handle putting out a fire. Some 70 year olds are in great shape, some, not so much. Anyone could have a heart attack. People much younger than he have just lifting the remote.
Kudos to you, old man. RIP.
 
2010-07-27 06:32:49 AM
katerbug72: My father-in-law is 70 and he built his own large cabin in the woods. Just he and his 70 year old wife. They dragged everything 2km into the woods and built it from scratch. They're in better shape than my 38 year old self. I'm positive he could handle putting out a fire. Some 70 year olds are in great shape, some, not so much. Anyone could have a heart attack. People much younger than he have just lifting the remote.
Kudos to you, old man. RIP.


I'd love to find out. Have a Google Maps location handy?
 
2010-07-27 06:39:18 AM
No worse than having 150 year old senators. When I look at the people in nursing homes I think "Man, these guys should be our leaders."
 
2010-07-27 06:42:38 AM
BadAnalogyGuy: I hate when people call these honorary firefighters anything close to the real thing. I work with several volunteer firefighters and they are all young and in tip top shape. They have rigorous physical standards to which they are held, because dying on the job isn't acceptable.

Letting an old fogey like this take part in actual firefighting activities is an affront to all firefighters who put their lives on the line every time they go out. This guy put his life on the line simply by virtue of being old. He's not a hero. He's an encumbrance upon the real firefighters who saved the day that day.

I don't believe it is a good policy to bad mouth our elders, but certainly one shouldn't sit by and let mediocrity pass for standard operating procedure.


With a population under 1500, Otis can't afford to be picky.
 
2010-07-27 06:50:25 AM
Is the hero tag on vacation?
 
2010-07-27 07:03:57 AM
My father-in-law is in his early 60s and he's captain of his local volunteer fire department. As a mason and a builder for the past 40 years he could also still kick the ass of almost anyone.

I'm sure he'll still be fighting fires in 10 years.
 
2010-07-27 07:17:09 AM
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2010-07-27 07:19:27 AM
Point02GPA: video man~

I still a poster.


I saw a turtle.
 
2010-07-27 07:39:50 AM
BadAnalogyGuy: I hate when people call these honorary firefighters anything close to the real thing. I work with several volunteer firefighters and they are all young and in tip top shape. They have rigorous physical standards to which they are held, because dying on the job isn't acceptable.

Letting an old fogey like this take part in actual firefighting activities is an affront to all firefighters who put their lives on the line every time they go out. This guy put his life on the line simply by virtue of being old. He's not a hero. He's an encumbrance upon the real firefighters who saved the day that day.

I don't believe it is a good policy to bad mouth our elders, but certainly one shouldn't sit by and let mediocrity pass for standard operating procedure.


He was a 25 year veteran, and the assistant chief. It also looks like their whole fire department was volunteer as the town was only 1500 people.
 
2010-07-27 07:45:54 AM
I wonder if the 70 year old firefighter started out as a 9 year old vegetarian.
 
2010-07-27 07:56:11 AM
More: Sad, Western Massachusetts, Jimmy Buffett, heart attacks, firefighters, Otis Fire Department

/waitwut?
 
2010-07-27 08:06:46 AM
BadAnalogyGuy: I hate when people call these honorary firefighters anything close to the real thing. I work with several volunteer firefighters and they are all young and in tip top shape. They have rigorous physical standards to which they are held, because dying on the job isn't acceptable.

I note that you aren't one of us but work "with" some of us (you sound fat).

I hope you are a troll. If so, "you got me". If not...

Volunteer departments with 20 members offering fire service to communities of 1,500 people use the people that are willing to serve. Fire fighters (young, old and everything in between) suffer LODD from all types of conditions -- heart attack, traffic accident, structure collapse, entrapment, etc.

[ www.firefighterclosecalls.com ]

Yeah, dude was old. Awesome. Good for him serving his community. I hope I'm able and willing to continue serving when I'm his age. Condolences to his family for their loss...

I've been a volunteer fire fighter for 22 years and I'm typing this at the firehouse, so I'm getting a kick, etc...
 
2010-07-27 08:08:35 AM
Captain Pierce was a fireman, Richmond engine number three
I'll be a wealthy man when I get a dime for all the things that man taught to me
Captain Pierce was a strong man, strong as any man alive
It stuck in his craw that they made him retire at the age of 65
 
2010-07-27 08:43:02 AM
"...in the small town of Otis" - That explains being 70 and still a fireman. I doubt Otis has a fireman's union.
 
2010-07-27 08:54:02 AM
... and still a firefighter

He's damn still now.
 
2010-07-27 08:59:39 AM
Here's my neighbor....great guy....but he was a little older than 70. He was a volunteer Firefighter for 65 years! RIP Jack

Link

/not sure if I did they linky thingy righty?
 
2010-07-27 09:25:33 AM
Otis!? He loves us!

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2010-07-27 09:33:28 AM
70? Wow. That's approximately 60 years past retirement age for firefighters.
 
2010-07-27 09:33:54 AM
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/hey blownut, it's a movie quote
//braces for all the firefighters with no sense of humor to preach about how many lives they save
 
M-G
2010-07-27 09:56:18 AM
Fortunately he didn't leave that faulty Alamo beer sign turned on at the fire house.
 
2010-07-27 10:08:19 AM
M-G: Fortunately he didn't leave that faulty Alamo beer sign turned on at the fire house.

Thank you. I came here for that.

--dauterive comma bill.
 
2010-07-27 10:13:26 AM
What's the best way to make a fireman roll his eyes?

Give a cop a medal for being a hero.
 
2010-07-27 10:15:28 AM
In our town of 250ish with a rural coverage area, we have a few guys getting close to 70 on the dept. Though some could still almost kick our asses, it's pretty much accepted they have an advisory role for us whippersnappers on a scene.
 
2010-07-27 10:28:17 AM
When my parents moved to a rural area in Wisconsin a few years ago, my dad joined the local volunteer fire squad. He's in his mid-50s and they were happy to have a "youngster" join. Only one volunteer is younger than he and most are in their 60s and 70s.

The two volunteer EMTs are also elderly ladies.

/They haven't had a fire yet, but they have monthly meetings in the firehouse. It seems to be more of a club.
 
2010-07-27 10:31:28 AM
xanadian: Point02GPA: video man~

I still a poster.

I saw a turtle.


I ate your chocolate squirrel.
 
2010-07-27 10:33:11 AM
"70 year old Firefighter dies of heartattack after blaze, in other news you can be 70 years old and still a firefighter"...
...Not anymore
 
2010-07-27 10:35:58 AM
As long as he was doing it because he wanted to and not because it was the only way he could eat. I think that's cool.

My pa works 10 hours a day 6 days a week at 74. I'll start worrying about him when he stops working. He's infinitely healthier than my ma who hasn't worked a day in the last 16 years or so who happens to be 6 years younger than he.
 
2010-07-27 10:42:53 AM
Not according to the NFPA......If you are over 35 you shouldn't be wearing SCBA. not can't but shouldn't. Of course the article doesn't say what he had been doing, so it's not likely he was on the interior attack. He may very well have been the pump operator or even traffic control. The USFA information is vague as it appears everything is still under investigation. (new window)


We are running into some of these issues in my department. Most kids are too busy texting each other and pretending that they are important to, you know, actually become important. "Great shape" doesn't have anything to do with it. I had a 20-something kid who had a BMI around 0 and was in "great shape" go into cardiac arrest because he was having an acute MI. Luckily for him he was in the ambulance on the way to the hospital already and he was resusitated quickly.

But I digress. There are two types of heart attack, one caused by coronary artey blockage and then there are the arrythmias. At 70 you are a high risk for either. The was probably an arrythmia, that's just a guess. An annual physical with an EKG may have caught it if it were pre-existing.
Still sucks.
 
2010-07-27 10:53:12 AM
halfpastawesome.com

Back in the day!!
 
2010-07-27 11:01:56 AM
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2010-07-27 11:08:38 AM
Who you callin' an old fogey, you farkin whipersnapper! And get out of my yard!
 
2010-07-27 11:09:53 AM
baronvonzipper: Who you callin' an old fogey, you farkin whipersnapper! And get out of my yard!

/whippersnapper? Where's my Metamucil?
 
2010-07-27 11:46:53 AM
Dying from at heart attack at 70 beats dying in a nursing home at 80.
 
2010-07-27 12:10:10 PM
TheRealKlaatu: Dying from at heart attack at 70 beats dying in a nursing home at 80.

Yep. I suspect this man wanted to die on the job, however long that took.
 
2010-07-27 01:26:32 PM
Hey, if you can make it to 70 as a firefighter, you must be doing something right.

/Ask Cohen the Barbarian
 
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