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(Some Fat Charlie)   Neil Gaiman has finally finished a script for movie adaptation of Anansi Boys   (journal.neilgaiman.com) divider line 59
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2010-07-23 04:24:24 PM
2 nerdgasms for the price of one - Doctor Who mention towards the bottom.
 
2010-07-23 04:27:03 PM
Mr. Gaiman if you're Anansi.
 
2010-07-23 04:27:26 PM
How bout an American God movie? Anansi always seemed way cooler than either of his sons.
 
2010-07-23 04:28:48 PM
I kind of wish I hadn't let my cousin borrow that book. I don't see him often and he's had it about 3 years now. I guess it's time to get a new copy.
 
2010-07-23 04:29:21 PM
He should have written the script for American Gods first!

damnit!!!
 
2010-07-23 04:32:06 PM
What about The Sandman?
 
2010-07-23 04:32:42 PM
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2010-07-23 04:37:08 PM
Very cool.

I'm also in the "Make Americans Gods First" camp but beggars can't be choosers.
 
2010-07-23 04:42:06 PM
He sure did spend a large portion of that blog talking about how he wasn't blogging ATM.

/was a decent book
//Good Omens would have been a better choice
 
2010-07-23 04:46:16 PM
SushiJoe: He should have written the script for American Gods first!

damnit!!!


I think it would have been too epic to try to adapt, and therefore would not live up to his visions. Anansi Boys is far more modest in terms of the fantastic.
 
2010-07-23 04:49:16 PM
ConConHead: SushiJoe: He should have written the script for American Gods first!

damnit!!!

I think it would have been too epic to try to adapt, and therefore would not live up to his visions. Anansi Boys is far more modest in terms of the fantastic.


Agreed. American Gods wouldn't be able to be contained in just one movie. It'd have to be at least two, to get everything in there you'd need to.
 
2010-07-23 04:50:18 PM
skaetur: He sure did spend a large portion of that blog talking about how he wasn't blogging ATM.

/was a decent book
//Good Omens would have been a better choice


I like the idea some Farker had to have Stephen Fry play both Crowley and Azrephael.
 
2010-07-23 04:52:56 PM
Ashtrey: I kind of wish I hadn't let my cousin borrow that book. I don't see him often and he's had it about 3 years now. I guess it's time to get a new copy.

I loaned my copy out to a coworker who was fired about a week later. I knew I wouldn't get it back, but waited a month or so to see if I would. I didn't.
I reordered a brand new copy from Amazon...and it was autographed; apparently, Gaiman signed a certain number to sell in stores.
 
2010-07-23 04:58:16 PM
So what is the Fark opinion on the short story with Shadow as Beowulf, Monarch of the Glen? I'm curious...
 
2010-07-23 05:03:02 PM
Good Omens - needs to be a movie (and Depp as Crowley would be divine).

American Gods - needs to be a cable Mini-series (couple years ago I'd have stipulated HBO, now I'm not so sure). Gives it enough time to build it up from mundane to something else.
 
2010-07-23 05:10:39 PM
TommyDeuce: Good Omens - needs to be a movie (and Depp as Crowley would be divine).

And Robin Williams as Aziraphale.
 
2010-07-23 05:13:17 PM
I have to read it again now.
 
2010-07-23 05:20:05 PM
reading it now. does gandalf die?
 
2010-07-23 05:24:46 PM
loved anansi boys.

since we're making a gaiman wish-list, how about the graveyard book? such a great riff on kipling, so wonderfully british
 
2010-07-23 05:29:27 PM
"Anansi Boys" sucked. "American Gods" was better, but still sucked. "Neverwhere" sucked. "Good Omens" sucked.

And you know why they sucked? None of them had any ideas that Gaiman hadn't already used (and used better) in "The Sandman". Gaiman has revealed himself to be a one-trick-pony.

It was a hell of a trick, though. "The Sandman" was and is great. But there is simply NO POINT in reading anything else he has done (I kept hoping there would be, which is why I read all his novels). He blew his whole wad on "Sandman".
 
2010-07-23 05:39:39 PM
realmolo: "Anansi Boys" sucked. "American Gods" was better, but still sucked. "Neverwhere" sucked. "Good Omens" sucked.

And you know why they sucked? None of them had any ideas that Gaiman hadn't already used (and used better) in "The Sandman". Gaiman has revealed himself to be a one-trick-pony.

It was a hell of a trick, though. "The Sandman" was and is great. But there is simply NO POINT in reading anything else he has done (I kept hoping there would be, which is why I read all his novels). He blew his whole wad on "Sandman".


6/10. A passable effort.

Also, Gaiman should really be making a Graveyard Book movie. Coraline was a great start in getting to the little ones, but it was quickly overshadowed.
 
2010-07-23 05:41:26 PM
realmolo: "Anansi Boys" sucked. "American Gods" was better, but still sucked. "Neverwhere" sucked. "Good Omens" sucked.

And you know why they sucked? None of them had any ideas that Gaiman hadn't already used (and used better) in "The Sandman". Gaiman has revealed himself to be a one-trick-pony.

It was a hell of a trick, though. "The Sandman" was and is great. But there is simply NO POINT in reading anything else he has done (I kept hoping there would be, which is why I read all his novels). He blew his whole wad on "Sandman".


Well I haven't read Sandman, so I enjoyed the others. So PPPPPPPPPBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
 
2010-07-23 05:42:47 PM
realmolo: "Anansi Boys" sucked. "American Gods" was better, but still sucked. "Neverwhere" sucked. "Good Omens" sucked.

And you know why they sucked? None of them had any ideas that Gaiman hadn't already used (and used better) in "The Sandman". Gaiman has revealed himself to be a one-trick-pony.

It was a hell of a trick, though. "The Sandman" was and is great. But there is simply NO POINT in reading anything else he has done (I kept hoping there would be, which is why I read all his novels). He blew his whole wad on "Sandman".


The big difference between all of the novels you mention and Sandman is that, and maybe you didn't realize this, Sandman isn't a novel. It's a comic book. Maybe what you don't like is books without pictures?
 
2010-07-23 05:43:43 PM
skaetur: He sure did spend a large portion of that blog talking about how he wasn't blogging ATM.

/was a decent book
//Good Omens would have been a better choice


The script for "Good Omens" is done and agreed upon by both Pratchett and Gaiman, but it's been promised to Terry Gilliam and ONLY Terry Gilliam.

Now, I know exactly what you're thinking. Good Omens? Neil Gaiman? Terry Pratchett? A dark comedy about the apocalypse? Directed by Terry Gilliam? HOW AWESOME WOULD THIS BE?

Only nobody is willing to give Terry Gilliam $80 million to film it.

So, if you have a spare $80 mill. sitting around, please get in contact with Terry Gilliam.
 
2010-07-23 05:45:49 PM
realmolo: "Anansi Boys" sucked. "American Gods" was better, but still sucked. "Neverwhere" sucked. "Good Omens" sucked.

And you know why they sucked? None of them had any ideas that Gaiman hadn't already used (and used better) in "The Sandman". Gaiman has revealed himself to be a one-trick-pony.

It was a hell of a trick, though. "The Sandman" was and is great. But there is simply NO POINT in reading anything else he has done (I kept hoping there would be, which is why I read all his novels). He blew his whole wad on "Sandman".


this just in, writers tend to revisit some of their favorite themes throughout their works. See also any comedy by Shakespeare or any drama by Shakespeare.
 
2010-07-23 05:46:13 PM
If they make a movie and Lenny Henry isn't in it, someone needs to have a long talk with the producers. Best performance of an audible book I ever heard by a single person.
 
2010-07-23 05:49:40 PM
Anansi Boys was a fun read. It should make for an entertaining movie.
 
2010-07-23 05:51:57 PM
came in here to look for Good Omens love...found it

someone needs to make that into a movie before I die
 
2010-07-23 05:56:08 PM
Dog Welder: So, if you have a spare $80 mill. sitting around, please get in contact with Terry Gilliam.

Fine, I'll pick up a lotto ticket. But really what are the odds I'll get the full return on my investment with a Gilliam movie? And really, is the story of a pair of feuding angel and demon banding together to stop the Apocalypse from being caused by a 10 year boy strange enough for him to even film?
 
2010-07-23 05:56:17 PM
Hilikus_SA: came in here to look for Good Omens love...found it

someone needs to make that into a movie before I die


Russell Brand could do Crowley. I'm not saying he should, but he could. And Azriphale...well, David Tennant.
 
2010-07-23 05:57:40 PM
Ashtrey: And really, is the story of a pair of feuding angel and demon banding together to stop the Apocalypse from being caused by a 10 year boy strange enough for him to even film?

But all the fun he could have with the nuns, and the 4 Horseman sitting in that diner!
 
2010-07-23 06:03:45 PM
Hilikus_SA: came in here to look for Good Omens love...found it

someone needs to make that into a movie before I die


Sitting on the dresser waiting to be read. Need to start that one asap.
 
2010-07-23 06:14:53 PM
jglynn: Sitting on the dresser waiting to be read. Need to start that one asap.

Get the fark off the internet and start reading.

Now imagine I'd said that in a nice way and do it.
 
2010-07-23 06:17:34 PM
I'm not quite with Realmolo on this one, but certainly I'm not interested in Anansi Boys, nor am I interested in an American Gods, for pretty much the reason he said. American Gods was just sort of an expansion of a short story, with almost no characterization for the main character, with the same sort of "Neil Gaiman knows a TON about mythology."
I disagree about Good Omens (co-written, by the way) and Neverwhere. I quite liked them.
 
2010-07-23 06:20:39 PM
Hollywood's gonna fark things up by making them white and living in New York
 
2010-07-23 06:39:38 PM
ConConHead: So what is the Fark opinion on the short story with Shadow as Beowulf, Monarch of the Glen? I'm curious...

I was under the impression that they never made Shadow into Beowulf per se, but that he was always Balder in the story and just the latest to be pitted against Grendel.
 
2010-07-23 06:49:58 PM
Wasn't it William Gibson who objected to books being increasingly viewed as some kind of half-developed artistic spectres until they're made into movies?

Anansi Boys was a very good novel, as was American Gods. Are they filmable in a way that does them justice? I'm not sure. They're pretty complex, pretty surreal, and definitely on the high-brow end of what Hollywood can make money on.
 
2010-07-23 09:02:44 PM
Ashtrey: skaetur: He sure did spend a large portion of that blog talking about how he wasn't blogging ATM.

/was a decent book
//Good Omens would have been a better choice

I like the idea some Farker had to have Stephen Fry play both Crowley and Azrephael.


Fry as Aziraphale, Hugh Laurie as Crowley.
 
2010-07-23 10:43:00 PM
Ashtrey: Dog Welder: So, if you have a spare $80 mill. sitting around, please get in contact with Terry Gilliam.

Fine, I'll pick up a lotto ticket. But really what are the odds I'll get the full return on my investment with a Gilliam movie? And really, is the story of a pair of feuding angel and demon banding together to stop the Apocalypse from being caused by a 10 year boy strange enough for him to even film?


And you've hit on the reason Gilliam can't get $80 million in funding. His only real financial hit was 12 Monkeys, and though it did well it didn't exactly set the world on fire.

And I'll echo the sentiments of Stephen Fry as Aziraphale and Hugh Laurie as Crowley.

If I had $80 million, I wouldn't be worried about the return on investment...I'd just be excited to see this get made.
 
2010-07-23 10:59:58 PM
Put me down for a "do not want". That book was unremarkable.
 
2010-07-23 11:28:53 PM
Dog Welder: skaetur: He sure did spend a large portion of that blog talking about how he wasn't blogging ATM.

/was a decent book
//Good Omens would have been a better choice

The script for "Good Omens" is done and agreed upon by both Pratchett and Gaiman, but it's been promised to Terry Gilliam and ONLY Terry Gilliam.

Now, I know exactly what you're thinking. Good Omens? Neil Gaiman? Terry Pratchett? A dark comedy about the apocalypse? Directed by Terry Gilliam? HOW AWESOME WOULD THIS BE?

Only nobody is willing to give Terry Gilliam $80 million to film it.

So, if you have a spare $80 mill. sitting around, please get in contact with Terry Gilliam.


I'll check my wallet.

.
.
.
.
darn.
 
2010-07-23 11:32:15 PM
I really really really really want to see this movie.

/thinks the fellow who narrated the audiobook should also be a narrator for the film.
 
2010-07-23 11:51:35 PM
www.firetree.net
 
2010-07-24 12:32:41 AM
RevMercutio: Fry as Aziraphale, Hugh Laurie as Crowley.

Amen.
 
2010-07-24 12:33:01 AM

This book has one of my favorite 'Gaiman moments':

"You want to hear a story?" asked the old man.

"Not really," she admitted.

He helped her to her feet, and they walked out of the Garden of Rest.

"Fair enough. Then I'll keep it short. Not go too long. You know, I can tell one of those stories so it lasts for weeks. It's all in the details -- what you put in, what you don't. I mean, you leave out the weather and what people are wearing, you can skip half the story. I once told a story --"

"Look," she said, "if you're going to tell a story, then just tell it to me, all right?" It was bad enough walking along the side of the road in the gathering dusk. She reminded herself that she wasn't going to be hit by a passing car, but it did nothing to make her feel more at ease.

The old man started to talk in a gentle sing-song. "When I say 'Tiger'", he said, "You got to understand it's not just the stripy cat, the India one. It's just what people call big cats -- the pumas and the bobcats and the jaguars and all of them. You got that?"

"Certainly."

"Good. So . . . a long time ago," he began, "Tiger had all the stories. All the stories there ever were was Tiger stories, all the songs were Tiger songs, and I'd say that all the jokes were Tiger jokes, but there weren't no jokes told back in the Tiger days. In Tiger stories all that matters is how strong your teeth are, how you hunt and how you kill. Ain't no gentleness in Tiger stories, no tricksiness, and no peace."

Maeve tried to imagine what kind of stories a big cat might tell. "So they were violent?"

"Sometimes. But mostly what they was, was bad. When all the stories and the songs were Tiger's, that was a bad time for everyone. People take on the shapes of the songs and the stories that surround them, especially if they don't have their own songs. And in Tiger times all the songs were dark. They began in tears, and they'd end in blood, and they were the only stories that the people of this world knew.

"Then Anansi comes along. Now I guess you know all about Anansi --"

"I don't think so," said Maeve.

"Well, if I started to tell you how clever and how handsome and how charming and how cunning Anansi was, I could start today and not finish until next Thursday," began the old man.

"Then don't," said Maeve. "We'll take it as said. And what did this Anansi do?"

"Well, Anansi won the stories -- won them? No. He earned them. He took them from Tiger, and made it so Tiger couldn't enter the real world no more. Not in the flesh. The stories people told became Anansi stories. This was, what, ten, fifteen thousand years back.

"Now, Anansi stories, they have wit and trickery and wisdom. Now, all over the world, all of the people they aren't just thinking of hunting and being hunted anymore. Now they're starting to think their way out of problems -- sometimes thinking their way into worse problems. They still need to keep their bellies full, but now they're trying to figure out how to do it without working -- and that's the point where people start using their heads. Some people think the first tools were weapons, but that's all upside down. First of all, people figure out the tools. It's the crutch before the club, every time. Because now people are telling Anansi stories, and they're starting to think about how to get kissed, how to get something for nothing by being smarter or funnier. That's when they start to make the world."

"It's just a folk story," she said. "People made up the stories in the first place."

"Does that change things?" asked the old man. "Maybe Anansi's just some guy from a story, made up back in Africa in the dawn days of the world by some boy with blackfly on his leg, pushing his crutch in the dirt, making up some goofy story about a man made of tar. Does that change anything? People respond to the stories. They tell them themselves. The stories spread, and as people tell them, the stories change the tellers. Because now the folk who never had any thought in their head but how to run from lions and keep far enough away from rivers that the crocodiles don't get an easy meal, now they're starting to dream about a whole new place to live. The world may be the same, but the wallpaper's changed. Yes? People still have the same story, the one where they get born and they do stuff and they die, but now the story means something different to what it meant before."

"You're telling me that before the Anansi stories the world was savage and bad?"

"Yeah. Pretty much."

She digested this. "Well," she said cheerily, "it's certainly a good thing that the stories are now Anansi's."

The old man nodded.

And then she said, "Doesn't Tiger want them back?"

He nodded. "He's wanted them back for ten thousand years."

"But he won't get them, will he?"

The old man said nothing. He stared into the distance. Then he shrugged. "Be a bad thing if he did."
 
2010-07-24 01:05:54 AM
Aunt Nancy?
 
2010-07-24 01:20:01 AM
I'd watch an adaptation of Good Omens just to see Death.

/I DON'T CARE WHAT IT SAYS, said the tall biker in the helmet, I NEVER LAID A FINGER ON HIM.
 
2010-07-24 10:03:07 AM
omeganuepsilon: Aunt Nancy?

No, no, Fritzi was the aunt.


/not a huge Gaiman fan, but I did sit through every episode of Neverwhere.
//God, I hate stuff shot on video.
 
2010-07-24 12:34:38 PM
Uhm, Anansi Boys sucked.

I love the guy's work in general. But that novel read like a manuscript that Gaiman dug out and dusted off after his success with American Gods and publishers would put out anything with his name on it.
 
2010-07-24 12:36:15 PM
bill4935: omeganuepsilon: Aunt Nancy?

No, no, Fritzi was the aunt.


/not a huge Gaiman fan, but I did sit through every episode of Neverwhere.
//God, I hate stuff shot on video.


It's a White Wolf reference for Ananasi.
 
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