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2010-07-23 10:30:45 AM
Also make sure all the signs in there have braille on them so they can be read by the blind lifeguards.
 
2010-07-23 10:31:45 AM
....all of whom will be named "Bob."
 
2010-07-23 10:33:09 AM
This is why Florida has it's own tag. Ayup.
 
2010-07-23 10:33:22 AM
Oh FFS.

Do you need a ramp down to the water too, so that your wheelchair doesn't get stuck in the freakin' sand?

/ no, you can't be a lifeguard
// not yours
 
2010-07-23 10:34:43 AM
Bob?
 
2010-07-23 10:34:44 AM
Never send a buoy to do a man's job.
 
2010-07-23 10:35:04 AM
I feel safer already.
 
2010-07-23 10:35:18 AM
Maybe Rand Paul was on to something after all.
 
2010-07-23 10:35:42 AM
HAH! It's not even for the lifeguards. (RTFA)

My faith in humanity (and my lack of faith in Florida) is restored.

Also, what is a fat-tired beach wheelchair.....?

He noted that disabled people can borrow fat-tired beach wheelchairs from the lifeguard station for free, but those are stored on the ground floor.
 
2010-07-23 10:36:40 AM
TheSignPost: HAH! It's not even for the lifeguards. (RTFA)

My faith in humanity (and my lack of faith in Florida) is restored.

Also, what is a fat-tired beach wheelchair.....?

He noted that disabled people can borrow fat-tired beach wheelchairs from the lifeguard station for free, but those are stored on the ground floor.


It's a wheel chair with fat tires.

(fat tires don't sink in the sand)
 
2010-07-23 10:36:41 AM
TheSignPost: HAH! It's not even for the lifeguards. (RTFA)

My faith in humanity (and my lack of faith in Florida) is restored.

Also, what is a fat-tired beach wheelchair.....?

He noted that disabled people can borrow fat-tired beach wheelchairs from the lifeguard station for free, but those are stored on the ground floor.


Larger tires = more surface area = easier wheeling in sand.
 
2010-07-23 10:36:57 AM
TheSignPost: Also, what is a fat-tired beach wheelchair.....?

A beach wheelchair that includes beer?
 
2010-07-23 10:36:58 AM
hawt lifeguard thread?

/it is Friday after all
 
2010-07-23 10:37:29 AM
TheSignPost: HAH! It's not even for the lifeguards. (RTFA)

My faith in humanity (and my lack of faith in Florida) is restored.

Also, what is a fat-tired beach wheelchair.....?

He noted that disabled people can borrow fat-tired beach wheelchairs from the lifeguard station for free, but those are stored on the ground floor.


Probably a wheelchair with fat tires so it doesn't sink into the sand?
 
2010-07-23 10:37:38 AM
The Americans with Disabilities Act has been a failure. The Handicapped are unemployed just as much as before. (Increased employment of the handicapped was one of the major goals.) Drive by lawsuits abusing the ADA are common, and you have wastes of money like this to solve non-existent problems. The ADA regulations themselves are a mind boggling array of micro-management stupidity.

Increased handicapped accessibility was already being more widely implemented before the law was put in place. The ADA may have sped up that trend, but it wasn't necessary.
 
2010-07-23 10:37:52 AM
Doesn't it follow then that they should pave the beach, so weelchairs don't get stuck in the sand?
 
2010-07-23 10:38:37 AM
Quadriplegic, or merely paraplegic?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2010-07-23 10:40:21 AM
TheSignPost: HAH! It's not even for the lifeguards. (RTFA)

My faith in humanity (and my lack of faith in Florida) is restored.

Also, what is a fat-tired beach wheelchair.....?

He noted that disabled people can borrow fat, tired beached whales wheelchairs from the lifeguard station for free, but those are stored on the ground floor.


I fixed that for you.
 
2010-07-23 10:40:27 AM
Inyego: Doesn't it follow then that they should pave the beach, so weelchairs don't get stuck in the sand?

I'll be damned if I'm gonna let the gimps get all the front row spots...
 
2010-07-23 10:40:49 AM
JavaGuy: TheSignPost: Also, what is a fat-tired beach wheelchair.....?

A beach wheelchair that includes beer?


loaded with this:
i26.tinypic.com

\recursive or meta?
 
2010-07-23 10:41:17 AM
What Fat Tire might look like
www.treehugger.com
 
2010-07-23 10:41:17 AM
Headline made me inhale coffee. fark your magnificent self, subby.
 
2010-07-23 10:41:21 AM
I guess he could still blow the whistle.
 
2010-07-23 10:43:08 AM
Thanks, Bush (I).
 
2010-07-23 10:43:14 AM
What a fat-tired beach chair may look like.

ultralightwheelchairs.org
 
2010-07-23 10:45:16 AM
PC.

Yeah, the result of idiot Lefties.
 
2010-07-23 10:45:19 AM
The episode of Bullshiat on the federal Americans with Disabilities Act was really good, interesting, and eye opening.
 
2010-07-23 10:45:49 AM
TheSignPost: Oh FFS.

Do you need a ramp down to the water too, so that your wheelchair doesn't get stuck in the freakin' sand?

/ no, you can't be a lifeguard
// not yours


Your outrage seems misplaced. It isn't a handicapped person making a complaint.

What ever happened to "reasonable accommodations" for the handicapped? This does not sound reasonable.
 
2010-07-23 10:46:14 AM
I'm reading this AT my lifeguarding job, so I'm getting a kick.

/hot coworkers, ugly patrons at the pool
 
2010-07-23 10:46:57 AM
GoodyearPimp: Thanks, Bush (I).

I suppose you meant to say "Thanks, Tom Harkin (D-IA)."
 
2010-07-23 10:47:01 AM
Yup. Now they're going to have to build a ramp into the sea..


i43.photobucket.com
 
2010-07-23 10:47:02 AM
images.allegrocentral.com
 
2010-07-23 10:48:04 AM
I used to love hearing Adam Carolla biatch about making repairs to his place, then having the inspector come over and tell him his front doorway needed to be widened to make it wheelchair accessible. The doorway was at the top of a 20 step stairway.
 
2010-07-23 10:49:09 AM
I guess they could act as spotters.

The only time I saw a problem when I was a lifeguard, my partner on the deck caught it just as I blew my whistle and jumped in since she was closer.

/shrug
 
2010-07-23 10:50:35 AM
Im not sure why this makes me as mad as it does...but damn. Im actually angry about it. Im all for helping the mobility chalenged, but this is assinine, spending my tax money for this crap is stoooooopid at best. So mad....

It probably doesnt help that I live in FL...FREAKIN MOE-RONS

I feel a little better although I think I might actually right my congressman with a note that simply says "AZZHAT"
 
2010-07-23 10:50:40 AM
TheSignPost: Oh FFS.

Do you need a ramp down to the water too, so that your wheelchair doesn't get stuck in the freakin' sand?

/ no, you can't be a lifeguard
// not yours


I know a Red Cross certified life guard who primarily gets around in a wheel chair. Due to a botched back surgery she can only walk awkwardly for short periods of time, but she is a good swimmer and was able to everything to pass the test to be a pool lifeguard. It is strange to see someone in a wheel chair with the lifeguard buoy across their lap at the side of the pool, but I don't know how she would do at the beach.

/yes she can
//hers
 
2010-07-23 10:51:07 AM
carrion_luggage: Never send a buoy to do a man's job.



~GROAN~

/good one... ouch that one hurt my soul just a little bit
 
2010-07-23 10:53:25 AM
This is a very small example of the ADA bull shiat going around.

Near me a very small town I drive through often is tearing up about 10 miles of sidewalks for this shiat. The existing side walks have ramps at each intersection and driveway but they do not meet ADA specs. This is a vey busy highway and not much on it. I have never seen anyone walking this lonely stretch of road and no wheelchairs but they are spending millions to replace sidewalks that are only a few years old and will never be used.

\Feel good laws DO hurt everyone.
 
2010-07-23 10:53:29 AM
Yeah, this makes an easy target for all you anti-liberal, anti-govt. knee-jerkers, but if I stuck you in a wheel chair and transported your ass back before the ADA, suddenly it would all make sense.

Don't believe me? Borrow a wheel chair and try it out for a week. See what happens. And to make it even more fun, don't use anything that was installed as a result of the ADA.
 
2010-07-23 10:54:11 AM
foxbrook78: TheSignPost: Oh FFS.

Do you need a ramp down to the water too, so that your wheelchair doesn't get stuck in the freakin' sand?

/ no, you can't be a lifeguard
// not yours

I know a Red Cross certified life guard who primarily gets around in a wheel chair. Due to a botched back surgery she can only walk awkwardly for short periods of time, but she is a good swimmer and was able to everything to pass the test to be a pool lifeguard. It is strange to see someone in a wheel chair with the lifeguard buoy across their lap at the side of the pool, but I don't know how she would do at the beach.

/yes she can
//hers


[citationpictures needed]
 
2010-07-23 10:58:51 AM
cryinoutloud: ....all of whom will be named "Bob."

"Who's Robbie?"

/Hoping I caught the right reference, I can't imagine many other Quadraplegics(or people otherwise lacking limbs) named Bob who were lifeguards at some point
 
2010-07-23 10:59:01 AM
I'm just gonna argue for argument's sake I guess.

Suppose the building is due for an inspection and the building inspector is disabled.

Suppose the lifeguards require a repair or other service on an upper floor.

Suppose that the building, which is currently used by lifeguards, is used for something completely different in the winter.

Suppose that at some point in the future, a new building is built for the lifeguards and this one is given a different purpose.
 
2010-07-23 10:59:31 AM
I worked at a pool way back in 1987 and a paraplegic was suing the Red Cross to be able to teach/certify lifeguards. After that nothing surprises me. I have no idea what ever happened but he probably won.
 
2010-07-23 11:00:05 AM
If you're ever on the shiatter and want a boring read, here is the ADA design guidlines-

ADA Accessibility Guidelines for Buildings and Facilities (ADAAG) (new window)
 
2010-07-23 11:01:14 AM
mazzz: Yeah, this makes an easy target for all you anti-liberal, anti-govt. knee-jerkers, but if I stuck you in a wheel chair and transported your ass back before the ADA, suddenly it would all make sense.

Don't believe me? Borrow a wheel chair and try it out for a week. See what happens. And to make it even more fun, don't use anything that was installed as a result of the ADA.


if nothing else, forcing the street corners to have sloping sidewalks rather than curbs has sure made things easier for wheel chairs and scooters. hell, made it easier for my fat ass when crossing the street.
 
2010-07-23 11:01:34 AM
(a) wheelchair lifeguards at a pool is much more reasonable than at a beach

(b) is it wrong that I associated fat-tired wheelchairs with people who are fat &/or tired?
 
2010-07-23 11:03:56 AM
namatad: mazzz: Yeah, this makes an easy target for all you anti-liberal, anti-govt. knee-jerkers, but if I stuck you in a wheel chair and transported your ass back before the ADA, suddenly it would all make sense.

Don't believe me? Borrow a wheel chair and try it out for a week. See what happens. And to make it even more fun, don't use anything that was installed as a result of the ADA.

if nothing else, forcing the street corners to have sloping sidewalks rather than curbs has sure made things easier for wheel chairs and scooters. hell, made it easier for my fat ass when crossing the street.


Easier for bikes too.
 
2010-07-23 11:06:03 AM
someguy945: I'm just gonna argue for argument's sake I guess.

Suppose the building is due for an inspection and the building inspector is disabled.

Suppose the lifeguards require a repair or other service on an upper floor.

Suppose that the building, which is currently used by lifeguards, is used for something completely different in the winter.

Suppose that at some point in the future, a new building is built for the lifeguards and this one is given a different purpose.


Multiply the probability of those suppositions by the cost of overcoming them some other way. Compare to cost of ADA-proposed solution. Profit?
 
2010-07-23 11:06:51 AM
Crosshair: The Americans with Disabilities Act has been a failure. The Handicapped are unemployed just as much as before. (Increased employment of the handicapped was one of the major goals.) Drive by lawsuits abusing the ADA are common, and you have wastes of money like this to solve non-existent problems. The ADA regulations themselves are a mind boggling array of micro-management stupidity.

Increased handicapped accessibility was already being more widely implemented before the law was put in place. The ADA may have sped up that trend, but it wasn't necessary.


THIS!

My god I can't even tell you the amount of money we threw down the drain making our 30,000 sqft. "ADA" compliant with today's standards. The stuff is ridiculous. Virtually every inspector will come in with their own list and change their minds 20 billion times with outrageous stuff that I KNOW other people don't have to do as I work quite regularly with people doing build-outs, tenant development, and new construction.
 
2010-07-23 11:07:38 AM
Fat Tire is the worst beer New Belgium makes. There, I said it.
/1554 is damn good
 
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