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2010-07-22 04:35:39 PM
BigNumber12: Jesus. Mike Nugent sounds like a special sort of person. 'Special' as in his life is miserable for him, so he tries to share that with everyone around him. An adult would just deal with the fact that 99% of the seats on a plane (including Mike's) recline, rather than arbitrarily taking it out on some poor guy who probably paid the same amount for his seat, and just wants to sleep.

What a nation of victims we've become.


There is a greater chance they paid different prices than the same.
 
2010-07-22 04:35:59 PM
zfarkingman: dk47: Party Boy: AntiNorm: Party Boy: people that require more space arent supposed to take more space at the expense of other paying customers.

This is EXACTLY what you are doing when you recline into my space.

When you bought the ticket, you know that the function of your seat is to recline. The function of the seat in front of you also reclines.

For you to, selfishly, have more room, you are doing it at the expense of the paying customer in front of you.

What you need to do is pay for that room on another carrier, buy a business class ticket, etc.

Or just recline your own seat. Problem solved.

exactly everyone recline. that is what i expect when i recline... the dude behind me needs to farkin recline. screw the last row.


Reclining my seat doesn't magically make legroom open up.
 
2010-07-22 04:36:44 PM
Speaking of rude...

I was flying from St Louis to JFK. My asshole friend got upgraded to first class but I had to sit in coach. I was in the middle seat and this asshole sitting next to me had a ton of bags and even held some on his lap during the flight. Halfway through, I had to go to the bathroom. After waiting a for some dipshiat for like 20 minutes, I used the restroom but this guy must have taken a monster shiat because it reaked something aweful the minute I opened the door. I had to hold my breath the entire time I was in there.

On my way back to my seat the meal service began and the cart blocked my from my seat which was only like two rows back. I had to wait until they were finished before I could return to my seat. When the steward came back around I told him I didn't get a meal and he was all like, "Are you sure?" What the hell, I would know if I had a meal placed in front of me. All they had left was a kosher meal which I didn't really want because I wasn't sure what the deal with kosher meals were. Then the two idiots sitting on either side of me got into a huge argument about what a kosher meal was.

Later I tried to sneak into first class for a nap because there were empty seats but this biatch flight attendant was all like, "people pay a lot for these seats" and forced me back to coach. I could hear the first class passengers mocking me as left.

To top it all off, once I landed and got to baggage claim I learned my bags had been sent to Hawaii.

So, yeah, I was pissed.
 
2010-07-22 04:37:15 PM
raygundan: 2 grams: raygundan: 2 grams: Ever listen to the flight attendent who tells you to stow your bag in the compartment above your seat?Not down the aisle, not above someone elses seat.

Odd... most of my flights usually include instruction to stow your bag in the first available space in the overhead bins, usually accompanied by some comment about how "this flight is extremely full," as if 99.9% of them aren't. Maybe it differs by region or airline?

Common sense tells me to put my bag in the compartment above my seat. If everyone put thier bag in the first space they saw, it would be a chaos.

If every one brought on the correct amount and size bags there wouldn't be a problem.

Like I said-- that's the typical instruction, and it has yet to cause any chaos. I suspect that if anything, a bag placed ahead of your seat facilitates faster exit from the plane, since people will be able to quickly vacate the area near their seat, allowing the other people in their row to also begin moving, rather than each individual person blocking exit from the row while they stop to retrieve a bag directly above them.

Now... bags placed BEHIND where you're sitting, on the other hand, are the worst idea ever.


Agreed, but not everyone fills in the plane in order, and not everyone can put their bag in a bin ahead of them, unless all the bins were staggered such that they started ahead of the first row of seats and end before the last row. Since airplanes aren't designed that way, and, like you said, putting bags behind you yields a nightmare, people should just put bags in the bin about their seat.
 
2010-07-22 04:37:50 PM
Party Boy: CrazyCracka420: Well yes, obviously the seats function as a recliner. This is how they work, and if you try to stop them from reclining, you will be at fault. That doesn't mean that it's already hard for me to fit in an airline seat, and when it's reclined my knees are forced to the side, and always seem to get wedged into hard plastic. So if it's more comfortable for me to stick my knees in the middle of the chair in front of me, so be it. I have to deal with it, so do you.

lumbar support.

Fat people pay for 2 seats. Buy a business class seat.


I just deal with it. But generally the most comfortable place (aka the only place without hard plastic) tends to be in the back of the seat in front of me. I can deal with it, it's just common sense that reclining takes up leg room from the person behind you. Even shorties have problems with leg room, I'm 6'3, so it's quite a pain in the ass. But at the end of the day, I'll be fine, and so will you.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:00 PM
Trapper439: Dan2ine: The white zone is for the immediate loading and unloading of passangers. There is no parking in the white zone.

Don't start up with your white zone shiat again.


it doesn't sound like you need to load or unload.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:10 PM
QuesoDelicioso: That game can end in multiple ways.

Yes it can. One of which is me kicking you in the back of the knees as you stand at the urinal after we get off the plane.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:19 PM
... but spend the entire duration locked in a grim and silent struggle for the armrest....

The poor shmuck stuck in the middle seat gets armrest preference. That's common courtesy. Pass it along.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:26 PM
ikapoz: There is wayyy to much douche in this thread. Either that, or I have seen the ever elusive airline seat trolls come out of the woodwork.

THIS. Jeez people, are your lives so farking terrible that you can't just deal with incredibly minor and temporary discomfort for the amazing ability to travel to the other side of the planet in a few hours for less than the cost of a set of snow tires? Do you refuse to tip waitresses because they didn't bring you extra salsa fast enough too?

Get over yourselves. All this angst will just shorten your life span.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:43 PM
CrazyCracka420: Yeah I had to re-explain it in a later post. I don't do it to be a dick, it's either in the back of the seat, or wedged up against hard plastic for hours on a flight. Sorry, but knees are going into the seat.

The obvious solution here, is that people don't recline. Space is at a premium, and even short people I fly with have problems with keeping their legs in front of them, and it's much worse when the seat is reclined in front. It's kind of common sense, but carry on.


I suppose that I'm not an exceedingly tall person, so perhaps I'm just not grasping how difficult it is to fit into those seats for the 6'+ers.

With that said, Economy Plus has been a godsend. 5" extra doesn't sound like much, but you could get lost in those seats.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:46 PM
What I've noticed is that there are a WHOLE lot of sociopaths in this thread, and they're angry.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:50 PM
CrazyCracka420: The obvious solution here, is that people don't recline. Space is at a premium, and even short people I fly with have problems with keeping their legs in front of them, and it's much worse when the seat is reclined in front. It's kind of common sense, but carry on. to buy more leg room on another carrier or another class.

Why do you feel the need to force someone else to accommodate you?

Lets get a fat person sandwich beside you, where they dont have to pay for 2 seats. I think your argument will be different.
 
2010-07-22 04:38:55 PM
mobombhead: I wasn't sure what the deal with kosher meals were. Then the two idiots sitting on either side of me got into a huge argument about what a kosher meal was.

You started a TFD thread in flight?
 
2010-07-22 04:38:57 PM
BigNumber12: An adult would just deal with the fact that 99% of the seats on a plane (including Mike's) recline, rather than arbitrarily taking it out on some poor guy who probably paid the same amount for his seat, and just wants to sleep.

Actually these days no two people pay the same amount for their seats.
 
2010-07-22 04:39:55 PM
ambercricket: Super Chronic: Just yesterday there was a pretty interesting article in the WSJ that the "golden age of flying" is pretty much a myth. Yeah, there were a few inches more legroom and the flight attendants (then referred to as "stewardesses") were hot. But flights were harder to find, more stopovers were required, the flights were bumpier and slower, the food sucked and it was as expensive as all hell.

I'd be curious to read the article because several of these claims aren't true. Prior to the airlines' adoption of the current hub-and-spoke system, most flights WERE direct. Slower? What, when they used propeller driven planes? Current jets aren't any faster than any jets used in the past and given that the skies are more crowded today, I suspect more time gets tacked on today just dealing with the air traffic patterns. A close friend is a pilot for NWA and he tells me stories all the time about the nightmare of getting a landing slot. The food sucked? Not on British Airways or JAL when I flew them in the 1970's.


It was talking about the supposed "golden age" of the 1950s, not the 1970s. Howard Hughes and all that. So yes, when they used propeller driven planes.
 
2010-07-22 04:40:48 PM
I farking hate when a fatty is seated by me and their flank drapes over the armrest and spills into my very limited space.
 
2010-07-22 04:40:48 PM
Danger Mouse: ... but spend the entire duration locked in a grim and silent struggle for the armrest....

The poor shmuck stuck in the middle seat gets armrest preference. That's common courtesy. Pass it along.


here, here!
 
2010-07-22 04:41:16 PM
CrazyCracka420: eclining my seat doesn't magically make legroom open up.

This is the core engineering problem: reclined seats consume legroom behind them, but reclining your own seat does not create more legroom for you.

The rest of it is just learning how to be a grown-up. Be polite, on both sides. Or just get drunk. Both are valid paths to adulthood.
 
2010-07-22 04:41:24 PM
QuesoDelicioso: Jument: QuesoDelicioso: Jument: QuesoDelicioso: Doesn't work if you're in the back row. Personally, I just keep a sharp eye out and shove my hand forward, palm out the moment the seat in front of me starts to come back. Ain't happening, pal, too bad so sad.

You're an asshole.

So I'm told, changing nothing. The space I occupy is mine.

I once had someone behind me pull something like this (at least that's what I think was happening). I called the steward over and told him I couldn't get the seat to recline. He pushed the button for me, and what do you know, it worked. I guess I must have been doing it wrong, thank you so much. Problem solved.

That game can end in multiple ways. Usually it ends with the complainant being re-seated, in my experience.


That would be awesome, considering that most flights I'm on are completely full except for a few seats in first class. :)
 
2010-07-22 04:42:00 PM
ruder, not more rude.

/in the old days, anyway.
 
2010-07-22 04:42:45 PM
QuesoDelicioso: Jument: QuesoDelicioso: Doesn't work if you're in the back row. Personally, I just keep a sharp eye out and shove my hand forward, palm out the moment the seat in front of me starts to come back. Ain't happening, pal, too bad so sad.

You're an asshole.

So I'm told, changing nothing. The space I occupy is mine.


You know, what ever happened to asking nicely?? I'm sure most people would be happy not to hurt your knees. It's when you pull out the shiatty tactics that you lose sympathy.
 
2010-07-22 04:42:52 PM
CrazyCracka420: Even shorties have problems with leg room, I'm 6'3, so it's quite a pain in the ass. But at the end of the day, I'll be fine, and so will you.

I'm not short, and I deal.

Guys like you arent going to dictate how I am going to use a function of a seat that I paid for.

You have a problem, you pay up. You are actively trying to piss off a paying customer in front of you that is using a normal function of their seat. Say that to yourself. Meanwhile, the shiatsu massage might not be bad.
 
2010-07-22 04:43:03 PM
AntiNorm: Pav: I almost came to blows with an Irish man about this. He wanted me to put my seat up during his dinner even though I wasn't having dinner and the guy in front of me was sleeping with the seat down. The flight attendant had to get involved and I won.

So you knew he was having dinner and you didn't care? That's just selfish.

Pav: If you think your going to stop me from putting my seat down with your knees think again. If it doesn't go down I'll get on my knees on the seat and look over the back to see whats goin on. If I see what your doing you will stop.

I can easily position myself so that my back is against the back of my chair, and my knees are wedged up against the back of your seat (I'm 6'1", not 7' or something like that). It won't be obvious, either, since there is only an inch or two of clearance in the first place. What do you think you're going to do, make me sit in the aisle?

Bring it on. I'll win, and you'll be facing charges for causing a mid-air disturbance.


Seat back tough guys. Who knew there was such a thing?
 
2010-07-22 04:43:04 PM
Don't know what's wrong with all of your flights, every time I fly (probably 3-4 times a year) nothing bad happens to me. I've had 2 or 3 delayed flights my entire life (in fact, many of my flights were slightly early for some reason), the people I've sat next to were either very friendly or minded their own business, the people in front of me that reclined their seat didn't do it all the way down, leaving me with some leg room, and the flight attendants were always polite to me
 
2010-07-22 04:43:44 PM
ikanreed: What I've noticed is that there are a WHOLE lot of sociopaths in this thread, and they're angry.

Not sociopaths just passive aggressive adults who still behave like children.

Is it really that hard for you people to ask the person in front to not recline? Or to warn the person behind you before you do?
 
2010-07-22 04:44:20 PM
enad58: BigNumber12: Jesus. Mike Nugent sounds like a special sort of person. 'Special' as in his life is miserable for him, so he tries to share that with everyone around him. An adult would just deal with the fact that 99% of the seats on a plane (including Mike's) recline, rather than arbitrarily taking it out on some poor guy who probably paid the same amount for his seat, and just wants to sleep.

What a nation of victims we've become.

There is a greater chance they paid different prices than the same.


That's a function of booking date, not merit. I'm talking about ticket class - you bought the economy seat, just like the guy in front of you. The point is - you didn't do anything special to earn the right to fark some other person better. Acting like a spoiled child throughout one's life will frequently get one treated as such.
 
2010-07-22 04:44:36 PM
The problem with seat reclining is that you always run the risk of sitting behind someone who will recline their seat the instant the wheels leave the ground and in front of someone who will whine and biatch if you ask to recline yours. End result - you lose 3-4 inches of space.

I say weld all the seats into a fixed 50% reclined position, then everyone STFU.
 
2010-07-22 04:45:01 PM
ambercricket: ikapoz: There is wayyy to much douche in this thread. Either that, or I have seen the ever elusive airline seat trolls come out of the woodwork.

THIS. Jeez people, are your lives so farking terrible that you can't just deal with incredibly minor and temporary discomfort for the amazing ability to travel to the other side of the planet in a few hours for less than the cost of a set of snow tires? Do you refuse to tip waitresses because they didn't bring you extra salsa fast enough too?

Get over yourselves. All this angst will just shorten your life span.


Yep. I'll bet you can get everywhere on the planet by another alternative than flying. If you don't like flying you can drive, take a train or a boat. Walk, for all I care.
 
2010-07-22 04:45:31 PM
Thorny4Pie: steve_wmn: Kim-Chi_and_Blaze: Air travel is one of the most annoying things in my life, however with enough drinks and a knowledge of how people used to travel before flying its possible to make it through only mildly annoyed.

Pretty much this. You have to just accept the fact that a trip to the airport means hours of time just sitting around while flights get messed up, and paying premium prices for mediocre food.

Anyone care to compile a Fark list of airport tricks?

Minneapolis: There is an "experienced traveler" line at the extreme rightmost security check. It is always shorter than any other line in my experience. I guess most Minnesotans are too polite to get in it.

Newark Terminal C: There are three(?) security checkpoints with separate approach points where you can't visually compare them for line length. You have to go practically all the way to the curbside to get from one to the other. The middle one is where the noobs queue up and it gets to be the longest.

Same deal at Memphis Int'l - go to the far left or right security checkpoints (Terms A and C). All the rookies flying Delta queue up dead center to Term B. On a busy day you'll be at your gate before they've got through security.

Anyone flying out of Newark on an early flight, get there 3hrs early minimum. I had a 6:10am out of there and got to the airport at 4am and barely made my flight. Between rental car return at Avis, waiting for air train, xfer to another air train, etc, I made the ticket counter with 1 minute to spare. If I hadn't been upgraded to first class and priority, I'd have missed that flight with the line waiting.


If you had to switch airtrains then you farked up. I fly out of Newark about 5 times a year and it is one of the easiest places I have ever gone out of. NJ Transit to the airport, OnePass lane for security. Takes me about 20 minutes from the train to my gate.

But then again, I know what to bring and not to bring...
 
2010-07-22 04:45:42 PM
Carth: ikanreed: What I've noticed is that there are a WHOLE lot of sociopaths in this thread, and they're angry.

Not sociopaths just passive aggressive adults who still behave like children.

Is it really that hard for you people to ask the person in front to not recline? Or to warn the person behind you before you do?


I think people just need to vent about this stuff seeing as you can't really do anything about when your flying. Every single tough guy here wouldn't do anything when the plane is up in the air but they need to relieve that frustration somehow.
 
2010-07-22 04:46:54 PM
mciann: The problem with seat reclining is that you always run the risk of sitting behind someone who will recline their seat the instant the wheels leave the ground and in front of someone who will whine and biatch if you ask to recline yours. End result - you lose 3-4 inches of space.

I say weld all the seats into a fixed 50% reclined position, then everyone STFU.


Airbus has some pre-reclined 3 inches. They don't move from that position.
 
2010-07-22 04:47:08 PM
Squeebee: Actually these days no two people pay the same amount for their seats.

See my post above. I've flown 35 to 40 times so far in 2010 - I know all about ticket price fluctuation.
 
2010-07-22 04:47:32 PM
2 grams: dk47: You people are idiots. It's much faster to clear the immediate aisle space and grab my bag on the way up, then all of us in the same row wait for each other to fish out our bags. Plus, there's no rule dude, and you definitely don't get to make one up.

Um. Yes, yes there is a "rule". Ever listen to the flight attendent who tells you to stow your bag in the compartment above your seat?Not down the aisle, not above someone elses seat. Above your seat. See, there's other people with bags that need to stow them as well. If everyone did what you did, it would be a disaster.

You are one of the A-holes everyone is talking about.

/No. Really. You are.


You walk down the aisle. The compartment above your seat is full. The one next to it is empty. What do you do?
 
2010-07-22 04:48:04 PM
Party Boy: CrazyCracka420: The obvious solution here, is that people don't recline. Space is at a premium, and even short people I fly with have problems with keeping their legs in front of them, and it's much worse when the seat is reclined in front. It's kind of common sense, but carry on. to buy more leg room on another carrier or another class.

Why do you feel the need to force someone else to accommodate you?

Lets get a fat person sandwich beside you, where they dont have to pay for 2 seats. I think your argument will be different.


Nobody has to accomodate me, I can deal with it either way. It's just common courtesy not to recline and eat up the already very limited legroom. Seems like common sense to me. Not everyone is courteous, I realize that. I give people the benefit of the doubt, but once I know you're a dick, all common courtesy goes out the window. Have a nice flight
 
2010-07-22 04:48:53 PM
Fark_incense: QuesoDelicioso: That game can end in multiple ways.

Yes it can. One of which is me kicking you in the back of the knees as you stand at the urinal after we get off the plane.


More like you shuffling by looking at the ground thinking angry thoughts. Don't worry, your butthurt will eventually subside.
 
2010-07-22 04:49:11 PM
Nakito: FTFA: "When Mike Nugent flies, nothing annoys him more than settling into his seat, the plane taking off, and the passenger in front reclining into his lap. So he's come up with a solution. 'I put my knee right in the middle of the back of the seat,' Nugent, 66, says."

OK, I give up. Which one is rude and which one isn't?


I want a subscription to that dude's newsletter. I don't fly much any more but I freakin' hated having the seat in front of me suddenly slam back. Yeah, that won't make it hard to work on my laptop or anything. Thanks, dude. I hope that extra 5 degrees of incline helps you sleep while I try to balance my computer on the edge of the tray so I can open the lid enough to see the screen.
 
2010-07-22 04:49:32 PM
jrchan: Don't know what's wrong with all of your flights

Most flights go reasonably well, but people remember the standout ones that were truly horrible, even if they are rare. I'll never forget taking an 8-hour overnight flight in the seat immediately next to a screaming, kicking, toy-car-throwing monster baby that was being completely ignored by an unconscious mother-of-the-year who had popped an Ambien at the beginning of the flight.

But most of the time, I just read a book, get up to pee once, and forget about it.
 
2010-07-22 04:50:35 PM
dk47: 2 grams: dk47: You people are idiots. It's much faster to clear the immediate aisle space and grab my bag on the way up, then all of us in the same row wait for each other to fish out our bags. Plus, there's no rule dude, and you definitely don't get to make one up.

Um. Yes, yes there is a "rule". Ever listen to the flight attendent who tells you to stow your bag in the compartment above your seat?Not down the aisle, not above someone elses seat. Above your seat. See, there's other people with bags that need to stow them as well. If everyone did what you did, it would be a disaster.

You are one of the A-holes everyone is talking about.

/No. Really. You are.

You walk down the aisle. The compartment above your seat is full. The one next to it is empty. What do you do?


That's the problem. Some douch took your space and now the fun starts. You take anothe space and prety soon its a free for all.
all it takes is one douche and everything goes to shiat. I am all for charging for overhead space.
 
2010-07-22 04:51:06 PM
dk47: 2 grams: dk47: You people are idiots. It's much faster to clear the immediate aisle space and grab my bag on the way up, then all of us in the same row wait for each other to fish out our bags. Plus, there's no rule dude, and you definitely don't get to make one up.

Um. Yes, yes there is a "rule". Ever listen to the flight attendent who tells you to stow your bag in the compartment above your seat?Not down the aisle, not above someone elses seat. Above your seat. See, there's other people with bags that need to stow them as well. If everyone did what you did, it would be a disaster.

You are one of the A-holes everyone is talking about.

/No. Really. You are.

You walk down the aisle. The compartment above your seat is full. The one next to it is empty. What do you do?



I hold my book, ipod, and ticket in my lap.


Just what *I* do.
 
2010-07-22 04:51:09 PM
CrazyCracka420: Nobody has to accomodate me

they do if you are asking them not to recline or put your knee in CrazyCracka420: the most comfortable place (aka the only place without hard plastic) tends to be in the back of the seat in front of me.

It is a function of the seat that they paid for. If you need more room, do what the fatties have to do.

Frankly, I think you would like to join me on operation scotch and pass out.
 
2010-07-22 04:51:09 PM
Kim-Chi_and_Blaze: Carth: ikanreed: What I've noticed is that there are a WHOLE lot of sociopaths in this thread, and they're angry.

Not sociopaths just passive aggressive adults who still behave like children.

Is it really that hard for you people to ask the person in front to not recline? Or to warn the person behind you before you do?

I think people just need to vent about this stuff seeing as you can't really do anything about when your flying. Every single tough guy here wouldn't do anything when the plane is up in the air but they need to relieve that frustration somehow.


ahhhhh. back in the day no one needed to. we could pull up the armrests in all 4 seats in the middle section, and lay down for a solid doze across the pond. now i don't remember the last time i had an empty seat nearby (international flights, at least), and the crowded planes put everyone on edge. THEN they want money to get drunk. they should really just give everyone a few mg of xanax as they board.
 
2010-07-22 04:51:11 PM
This thread and most in it can be summed up as such:

a1468.g.akamai.net


/hates people
 
2010-07-22 04:51:34 PM
Kim-Chi_and_Blaze: Carth: ikanreed: What I've noticed is that there are a WHOLE lot of sociopaths in this thread, and they're angry.

Not sociopaths just passive aggressive adults who still behave like children.

Is it really that hard for you people to ask the person in front to not recline? Or to warn the person behind you before you do?

I think people just need to vent about this stuff seeing as you can't really do anything about when your flying. Every single tough guy here wouldn't do anything when the plane is up in the air but they need to relieve that frustration somehow.


Exactly. I'm probably going to recline and sleep through the flight, or read. If you don't like it you're not going to do anything. You're going sit there and fume with impotent rage.
 
2010-07-22 04:52:44 PM
What about the positive experiences that you've had flying?

Any stories?

I still remember the kindly old lady from Orlando sitting next to me on an LAX-Atlanta flight in '86, who let me sleep through the serving of meals but arranged for the meal to be brought out to me after I woke up.

My teenaged self really, really appreciated that. Way to go Orlando.
 
2010-07-22 04:52:51 PM
QuesoDelicioso: More like you shuffling by looking at the ground thinking angry thoughts

That is what you are counting on. Unfortunately for you, not everyone you meet will take that coarse of action. It just takes one.
 
2010-07-22 04:54:19 PM
8Draw: Exactly. I'm probably going to recline and sleep through the flight, or read. If you don't like it you're not going to do anything. You're going sit there and fume with impotent rage.

you guys are right.

I think ill go to another thread.
 
2010-07-22 04:55:14 PM
CrazyCracka420: Party Boy: CrazyCracka420: The obvious solution here, is that people don't recline. Space is at a premium, and even short people I fly with have problems with keeping their legs in front of them, and it's much worse when the seat is reclined in front. It's kind of common sense, but carry on. to buy more leg room on another carrier or another class.

Why do you feel the need to force someone else to accommodate you?

Lets get a fat person sandwich beside you, where they dont have to pay for 2 seats. I think your argument will be different.

Nobody has to accomodate me, I can deal with it either way. It's just common courtesy not to recline and eat up the already very limited legroom. Seems like common sense to me. Not everyone is courteous, I realize that. I give people the benefit of the doubt, but once I know you're a dick, all common courtesy goes out the window. Have a nice flight


Sorry, the chair's built to go back. If you get all sandy about that, I doubt you'll even remember it by the end of the day considering all the other world-crushing travesties you'll suffer through.
 
2010-07-22 04:56:29 PM
Trapper439: What about the positive experiences that you've had flying?

Any stories?


(to the guy behind me a month ago on a trans atlantic flight)

You have no idea how hard I worked stabilizing the broken recline function of the seat. I know it irritated you, but all those stretches of stability took a great deal of effort on my part.
 
2010-07-22 04:56:39 PM
Fark_incense: QuesoDelicioso: More like you shuffling by looking at the ground thinking angry thoughts

That is what you are counting on. Unfortunately for you, not everyone you meet will take that coarse of action. It just takes one.


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2010-07-22 04:59:54 PM
Another tall guy here, six foot five. Theoretically, I believe that the three inches of recliner space belongs to the person who can recline into it, and is just being generous to the person behind them by not reclining their seat. That said, sometimes there is no way for you to back your seat any further because my knees are already crammed into the space as tight as they will fit. I try to sit at bulkhead or exit rows, but it hasnt always happened that way. Until they make me buy another seat for being tall, there is nothing that another person complaining can do about it. Of course, it never has been a problem that I can recall.

/Then again, maybe the people in front didnt verbalize
//whatever
 
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