I think it was a bad choice to have him on.

I think he does NOT have the training. I think he simply had the position. I think he does NOT have the training. I'VE got the training. And frankly, I don't care how that sounds, but the fact is, I've got the training. I'm a pedigreed film critic. I've studied it. I know it.

lolwut

According to his wiki he lists Artificial Intelligence as the top movies of all time?

Adjective Bird Whiskey: According to his wiki he lists Artificial Intelligence as the top movies of all time?

I'm actually surprised he liked that. It's actually a good movie.

DamnYankees: Adjective Bird Whiskey: According to his wiki he lists Artificial Intelligence as the top movies of all time?

I'm actually surprised he liked that. It's actually a good movie.

AI? Yeah, it's not bad. I mean there are things I definitely didn't like about it, but it wasn't bad. But the best movie of all time?

Adjective Bird Whiskey: DamnYankees: Adjective Bird Whiskey: According to his wiki he lists Artificial Intelligence as the top movies of all time?

I'm actually surprised he liked that. It's actually a good movie.

AI? Yeah, it's not bad. I mean there are things I definitely didn't like about it, but it wasn't bad. But the best movie of all time?

AI isn't perfect, but it's admirable and interesting.

I half expected his pick for best movie all time to be Pootie Tang.

ne2d: Well, at least he's savvy to one aspect of the internet--that anklebiting will get you a week or so of decent page views.

what a dillhole

Having watched Ebert slam other pretentious idiots before, I think this guy bit off more than he can chew.

DamnYankees: I half expected his pick for best movie all time to be Pootie Tang.

pootie tang is pretty f'ing fantastic, friend.

his pick of AI seems totally arbitrary, like he didn't think about it at all, and just chose it because he couldn't be bothered to consider his answer. and, now-a-days if people ask him about AI, he'd say, "yeah, that's pretty good. no, of course i can think of several movies that are better than AI."

DamnYankees: I think it was a bad choice to have him on.

/Film got lucky in Armond going nuclear on Ebert in the AfterDark, during the main show he ran circles around them in ignoring their questioning and going on 10-minute harangues about films from 75 years ago. Devindra said in the chat they were "letting him hang himself," but at a certain point it looks like you're being steamrolled and not defending yourself at all. The worst part was when White said "no one should be allowed to review movies before 30 or make a movie before 40," and instead of reeling off what classics were made by directors younger than 40, Chen just did his usual "ummm, yeah, okay..." backtracking stuff. While they were "letting him hang himself," it seemed to everyone listening like they didn't know their stuff.

Like I said, though, all that's going to be ignored in favor of White claiming that he's the only film critic who knows what he's talking about and going insane on Ebert.

robsul82: DamnYankees: I think it was a bad choice to have him on.

/Film got lucky in Armond going nuclear on Ebert in the AfterDark, during the main show he ran circles around them in ignoring their questioning and going on 10-minute harangues about films from 75 years ago. Devindra said in the chat they were "letting him hang himself," but at a certain point it looks like you're being steamrolled and not defending yourself at all. The worst part was when White said "no one should be allowed to review movies before 30 or make a movie before 40," and instead of reeling off what classics were made by directors younger than 40, Chen just did his usual "ummm, yeah, okay..." backtracking stuff. While they were "letting him hang himself," it seemed to everyone listening like they didn't know their stuff.

Like I said, though, all that's going to be ignored in favor of White claiming that he's the only film critic who knows what he's talking about and going insane on Ebert.

Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws, Citizen Kane, Chinatown (Polanski may have been a bit over 40 when they made it), Fargo,...

Anybody else want to chime in? It seems to me that some of the greatest films of all time were made by directors under 40.

Naman: Fark It: robsul82: DamnYankees: I think it was a bad choice to have him on.

/Film got lucky in Armond going nuclear on Ebert in the AfterDark, during the main show he ran circles around them in ignoring their questioning and going on 10-minute harangues about films from 75 years ago. Devindra said in the chat they were "letting him hang himself," but at a certain point it looks like you're being steamrolled and not defending yourself at all. The worst part was when White said "no one should be allowed to review movies before 30 or make a movie before 40," and instead of reeling off what classics were made by directors younger than 40, Chen just did his usual "ummm, yeah, okay..." backtracking stuff. While they were "letting him hang himself," it seemed to everyone listening like they didn't know their stuff.

Like I said, though, all that's going to be ignored in favor of White claiming that he's the only film critic who knows what he's talking about and going insane on Ebert.

Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws, Citizen Kane, Chinatown (Polanski may have been a bit over 40 when they made it), Fargo,...

Anybody else want to chime in? It seems to me that some of the greatest films of all time were made by directors under 40.

Before 40? Hell, Paul Thomas Anderson did two great works before 30, Boogie Nights and Magnolia.

Three if you count There Will Be Blood. I appreciate Magnolia for what I think it was trying to do, which I'm still not sure of...

I really wish PTA could have trimmed at least 45 minutes from Magnolia, to make it more rewatchable, or gotten Julianne Moore naked. Seriously, it's like one of the only movies where she doesn't get naked.

you know who would win in a fight-to-the-death between him and michael medved? we all would.

IAmNotRickMoranis: Does anyone have that list handy that shows films White loved versus the ones he hated? It usually pops up on every Armond White article...

...actually, maybe that's where I'll look. But if you've got it, couldja help a jigga out?

MiddleyMcCentrist: ZODIAC.

Really. REALLY? Zodiac? I've never seen anyone put Zodiac on their "Bad Movie" list. That was a flat out fantastic film, and just about everyone on the farking planet had it on their top ten list for.... what was it '07 or '08? for that year it came out. Good FSM.

I don't know who Armond White is but he sounds dumb.

Zodiac is wonderful. Watched it again 2 weeks ago, and it's just great.

If you read Armond's attempted slam of Ebert, it's clear he has no real understanding of what Ebert does as a critic, the way Ebert's thumbs up/thumbs down rating system works, or the depth of knowledge Ebert has about film and film criticism. This suggests that while Armond may or may not believe the things he says about films in general, he is talking out of his ass when he says them.

When this troll dies, I hope his personal afterlife consists of being locked in a theater with all his "good" movies playing on an endless loop. Whether that represents heaven or hell is up to him.

Nemo's Brother: Adjective Bird Whiskey: DamnYankees: Adjective Bird Whiskey: According to his wiki he lists Artificial Intelligence as the top movies of all time?

I'm actually surprised he liked that. It's actually a good movie.

AI? Yeah, it's not bad. I mean there are things I definitely didn't like about it, but it wasn't bad. But the best movie of all time?

It could have been a good movie, but Spielberg is a pussy with no edge left to him. Same with Minority Report.

Minority Report is great. I don't see what edge those movies should have had that they didn't,

DamnYankees: Nemo's Brother: Adjective Bird Whiskey: DamnYankees: Adjective Bird Whiskey: According to his wiki he lists Artificial Intelligence as the top movies of all time?

I'm actually surprised he liked that. It's actually a good movie.

AI? Yeah, it's not bad. I mean there are things I definitely didn't like about it, but it wasn't bad. But the best movie of all time?

It could have been a good movie, but Spielberg is a pussy with no edge left to him. Same with Minority Report.

Minority Report is great. I don't see what edge those movies should have had that they didn't,

Speilberg's insistence on happy endings where everything works out great and previous, weighty emotional scenes mean nothing. Think the end of War of the Worlds, Minority Report where they end up catching the bad guy and everything works out. MR would have been way better if it ended with Cruise's character locked away and the precog program going national.

Fark It: Speilberg's insistence on happy endings where everything works out great and previous, weighty emotional scenes mean nothing. Think the end of War of the Worlds, Minority Report where they end up catching the bad guy and everything works out. MR would have been way better if it ended with Cruise's character locked away and the precog program going national.

Not sure how that's better. It's just different.

If you instinctively dislike happier endings, that's just a personal choice.

I will agree that it didn't work in War of the Worlds since it was so randomly and just not well done. But it worked great in AI and in Minority Report, IMO.

quizkid8279: Regarding the end of "Minority Report," it is possible that everything that happens after Anderton goes to mind-prison is actually his dream.

/not likely, though

Clearly it's his wife's dream, and he's just in it as a way to wake him up.

Dog Welder: Oh...and Chistopher Nolan turns 40 in 10 days. He's made a pretty strong mark for someone this young.

Paul Thomas Anderson turned 40 a few weeks ago. He obviously has a few great ones under his belt, including one of the best films ever made.

Is there a reason why anyone pays any attention to this douche?

Mugato: Is there a reason why anyone pays any attention to this douche?

Rotten Tomatoes.

Seriously, that's why. Because he's usually the first person to ruin the perfect score a movie is otherwise getting at that point.

If anyone is curious, Ebert did a blog entry on White's review of Inception:

Link (new window)

Written before White said these things about Ebert. It sucks that blogs have come along so late in Ebert's life. He seems ideally suited for the format. And his blog is one of the only in existence where the comments are actually worth reading - he's so respectful and he engages people. I wish he wrote more entries in it.

There's a difference between some movie snob liking a movie and a really good movie. They are usually not one and the same.