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(The Register)   RIAA plans big changes to sound cards, motherboards, hard drives, ISP`s, privacy laws, etc to stop piracy   (theregister.co.uk) divider line 107
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2001-10-08 02:02:56 PM  
The RIAA can kiss my fu(king ass (_|_)
 
2001-10-08 02:06:15 PM  
This is stupid. If I'm shelling out over a thousand dollars for a computer, it had better damn well do whatever I want it to. I hope hardware manufacturers kill this before it gains momentum.
 
2001-10-08 02:06:47 PM  
A tougher DMCA? You gotta be kidding me...

I also liked how the RIAA talked about its "friends in Washington." Yeah, big-time bribes do make friends.
 
2001-10-08 02:08:23 PM  
RIAA (Rear insertion assholes available)
 
2001-10-08 02:08:58 PM  
I like the first sentence, referring to the "Recording Industry Ass of America." Fitting...
 
2001-10-08 02:09:59 PM  
' The drop in CD sales can be directly attributed to "the new generation of file sapping services" '

Now maybe it's not because of file swapping services. Maybe it's the fact that a new CD will cost you almost 25% more than it did four years ago and the cost of manufacture has dropped almost 70%-90%.
 
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2001-10-08 02:10:48 PM  
Simply don't buy computer hardware that has this shiat. In these hard economic times, any computer company that does something the consumer doesn't want won't be around longer than 3 months.
 
2001-10-08 02:12:09 PM  
 
2001-10-08 02:12:15 PM  
So all I do is hang on to my legacy hardware to rip with. If for whatever reason the CD stops working in my old hardware, I sue them for not telling me.
 
2001-10-08 02:12:35 PM  
The drop in sales could also be due to the fact that so much of what is being released by RIAA affiliated companies at the moment is utter shiat.
 
2001-10-08 02:12:37 PM  
oooohhhhh. I have been warned.
it a very scarey.
 
2001-10-08 02:13:46 PM  
whatever puts a thorn in their ass, i'll do it.
no matter what they do youll always be able to get whatever the fck you want on IRC or Usenet.
so ::P nazi wannabe motherfckers.
 
2001-10-08 02:13:47 PM  
The genie is out of the bottle and will not go back in. I await the day when all of these assholes will be out of a job and will no longer promote sugarey, bubble gum, pop bullshiat. I, for one, have not bought a CD in about a year. I can get all the songs I want off the net.
 
2001-10-08 02:14:26 PM  
Fathom: Definately that too!
 
2001-10-08 02:15:00 PM  
The key: Buy Vinyl.
 
2001-10-08 02:15:59 PM  
oh yea. i bought the new rammstein and new dream theater but everything else i got this year i stole.
 
2001-10-08 02:16:15 PM  
they would have to get legislation passed to put this stuff into the computers, right? Well even so there are countless people, i.e., hackers, computer whiz's, call em what you want who within five minutes can have a program written and uploaded to the net that totally defeats the intention of the hardware. RIAA is fighting a losing battle and they know it
 
2001-10-08 02:17:01 PM  
I agree if we boycott the hardware companies they will kill this like they did lastime they tired to get this crap on our computers. I don't pay thousands of dollars a year for computer hardware to be preached to by the RIAA and MPAA.
 
2001-10-08 02:18:46 PM  
Media:
Its easy to say, and I agree with you, that it would work. The problem is that Joe Pinhead in middle America isn't going to join in your boycott, because they are happy forking over $20 a month to AOL, and listening to Britney Spears.
 
2001-10-08 02:20:10 PM  
"Once consumers can no longer get free music, they will have to buy the music in the formats we choose to put out."

Is this guy's middle name Hitler? Who the fuk does he think he is? Their statements are just begging for the best of the best to hack those anti-rip softwares. And I will never buy another CD from any of the forementioned record companies in this article, or any hardware manufacturer that actually has the balls and communist business practices to put this crap in their products.
 
2001-10-08 02:20:17 PM  
Support independent music. That's all there is to it.
 
2001-10-08 02:20:28 PM  
they would have to get legislation passed to put this stuff into the computers, right? Well even so there are countless people, i.e., hackers, computer whiz's, call em what you want who within five minutes can have a program written and uploaded to the net that totally defeats the intention of the hardware. RIAA is fighting a losing battle and they know it

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Hacking hardware is not like hacking software dood. If every component on your computer works to not allow you to rip includeing your isp then we are farked but we still have the power to stop this type of crap. This is something that can work unlike their other attempts thats why we have to look at this as a true threat.
 
2001-10-08 02:21:11 PM  
I just downloaded Butthole Surfers "Human Cannonball"
I haven't heard it in years.
Gawdam songs rocks.
I'm going going to buy it tonight.
Preferably on vinyl.
 
2001-10-08 02:22:33 PM  
Well, soon the price of CD's should rise even more if these changes go into effect. The money to bribe the right politicians and industry leaders has to come from somewhere, right?
 
2001-10-08 02:25:09 PM  
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad i live in europe!!!!!!
 
2001-10-08 02:26:05 PM  
Way to go, Record Industry Ass, treat the music-loving public as total enemies. They think sales are down now, imagine a world where they try to force-feed us their format, and their format only. Sales may be down because the economy slowed this year (it's slowed for everyone), and recently because of 9/11, but there's been other data that's suggested sales have not been impacted. God only knows how much money and time they're wasting on their b.s. legal crusade. Might as well try to stop the sun from rising.
 
2001-10-08 02:27:51 PM  
Protest with your dollars.

When I get a CD that I cannot play in my computer or rip, yet it still has the CD logo on it, I will return it as defective. I will repeat as many times as I feel, then get my money back. If the store refuses (some may try) I will explain exactly why it is defective and why I am returning it.

I will of course buy it on credit card to dispute the charges if necessary. I will also explain this to the store. even if they win the dispute, they are supposedly charged $20 processing fee by the cc company, and they get it noted. After a certain amount of marks, their ability to process those cards is revoked.

I will also refuse to purchase any devices incorporating any form CPRM.

The odd thing in these copy schemes is that computers have been ripping protected CDs fin in exact copy mode. Consumer recorders (i.e. components by jvc, sony, etc) will not be able to copy such CDs. The friendly consumer oriented components will be rendered useless by their manufacturers, which should upset those who paid sony for such a device only to have Sony support its demise.

They also make mp3 players... whoops, when they said you could take your music with you on your mp3 player, they were only kidding...
 
2001-10-08 02:27:56 PM  
Protest with your dollars.

When I get a CD that I cannot play in my computer or rip, yet it still has the CD logo on it, I will return it as defective. I will repeat as many times as I feel, then get my money back. If the store refuses (some may try) I will explain exactly why it is defective and why I am returning it.

I will of course buy it on credit card to dispute the charges if necessary. I will also explain this to the store. even if they win the dispute, they are supposedly charged $20 processing fee by the cc company, and they get it noted. After a certain amount of marks, their ability to process those cards is revoked.

I will also refuse to purchase any devices incorporating any form CPRM.

The odd thing in these copy schemes is that computers have been ripping protected CDs in in exact copy mode. Consumer recorders (i.e. components by jvc, sony, etc) will not be able to copy such CDs. The friendly consumer oriented components will be rendered useless by their manufacturers, which should upset those who paid sony for such a device only to have Sony support its demise.

They also make mp3 players... whoops, when they said you could take your music with you on your mp3 player, they were only kidding...
 
2001-10-08 02:29:07 PM  
I'm glad I live in a capitalist society and people will supply whatever I demand as long as there are enough people that demand it too. I just hope that others have the wisdom to make the right decisions when purchasing computer hardware.
 
2001-10-08 02:29:46 PM  
hmmm... double post...

oh Turbofish, your statement about being in Europe makes no sense. These schemes will be there too if the major players back them. Anti copy CDs are being tested there already...
 
2001-10-08 02:31:54 PM  
Didn't cd sales peak during the heyday of Napster, and then nosedive once Napster was killed? I read someone saying the RIAA is mostly scared about losing control of the artists and not being able to screw everyone over if they don't have to go through them.
 
2001-10-08 02:39:38 PM  
Holy crap man. I mean, holy crap. This is going too far. It's time we banded together, elected a figurehead, and took a stand on this crap. I vote for Courtney Love. This is just ridiculous though. Besides, what'd going to stop me from just not upgrading my computer? I'm building a computer next spring that will last me many many years...so why should I bother buying a new CD drive after that that won't play CDs? I don't know what we need to do...I mean, boycott, petition, hack the hell out of the RIAA website, whatever. But we need to do something.

/rant
 
2001-10-08 02:40:31 PM  
If they get the hardware modified, software can only do so much.

I say: HOLD ON TO YOUR CURRENT PC'S!!!

If you get a new one, put the old one in the closet, or spare room or something, cuz you'll need it later.

I think I remember some movie about technology where this guy used some 'older' hi-tech equipment because it was not inhibited. Maybe that's just my imagination.
 
2001-10-08 02:41:25 PM  
And hey, everyone should understand the basics of a computer network - why not network your next new pc with your current one? 10/100 Ethernet cards are like $20 now.
 
2001-10-08 02:45:30 PM  
YEah, like that'll happen: "We want everyone to change their hard drives around even though we're in an economy chrisis right now so that you can stop sharing files. Then you'll HAVE to go out and spend an additional 20 bucks for the CD just for the one song you want. HA HA HAHAHAHAHA!"

They didn't say that, but I'll bet you that's what they're thinking.
 
2001-10-08 02:46:13 PM  
You can't stop a million plus hacker geniuses.
 
2001-10-08 02:46:54 PM  
That's a good call, Mme.Mersault.
 
2001-10-08 02:48:01 PM  
It's time we banded together, elected a figurehead, and took a stand on this crap.

http://www.eff.org/
 
2001-10-08 02:49:02 PM  
oh, specifically: http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html">http://www.eff.org/al erts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html
 
2001-10-08 02:54:21 PM  
IckyMettle: Damn right. They can copy-protect their crap music all they want. Those who enjoy it are too ill-informed to care; those who listen to independent artists don't have reason to worry. Hopefully...
 
2001-10-08 02:57:52 PM  
I stopped buying new CDs some time ago because most of the "music" on them is crap. I don't want that stuff on MY hard drive in the first place.

And if by some miracle they started actually making GOOD music, I will just make my own farking music. I KNOW I can produce better music than they have on MTV.
 
2001-10-08 02:57:53 PM  
' The drop in CD sales can be directly attributed to "the new generation of file sapping services" '


Maybe because all that is being churned out is a bunch of shiat.
 
2001-10-08 02:59:09 PM  
So, according to this story, I won't be able to copy my CD's, leaving the originals as a backup?

So when my orginal cd (because I can't make a copy) gets a big scratch in it that prevents it from playing properly, I can call them up and have them send me a new one, free of charge? I mean, I already paid for the royalty, the manufacturing costs, and everything else that goes along with it. Essentially I paid for my right to own that CD, and to own it in the condition that it was purchased in. So they won't have any problems sending me a replacement of the CD that I lawfully own, right?
 
2001-10-08 03:00:43 PM  
Hardware controls? Whatever. There are hundreds of millions, if not billions of CD-ROM players, soundcards, and hard drives without copy protection that are already in people's hands. Cat's out of the bag on that one.

ISPs are probably the weakest link here. Central point of control. They potentially have the ability to monitor/block/kick off anyone who is actively trading. With enough pressure from the RIAA/govt, the ISPs just might.
 
2001-10-08 03:03:28 PM  
Last album I bought was the new Dylan album. And I can't remember the album I bought before that. fark the RIAA! They will never control me! I hate most of their crap anyway, but I'll pirate it just to piss the motherfarkers off!
 
2001-10-08 03:03:40 PM  
This could be devastating to the entire Fark community. I mean, if n'sync puts out a christmas album this year, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TRADE IT OVER THE INTERWEB!
 
2001-10-08 03:04:03 PM  
Maybe there is a drop in music C.D. sales because 95% of the music released is absolute crap in the last 5 years !!!
Hilary Rosen--Can't Understand Normal Thinking!!!!
You pig like dyke,Hilary Rosen,crawl back into the swill of crap from whence you came!!!!!!!
 
2001-10-08 03:05:36 PM  
Yet only PCs and PC users will be affected. Yaay Mac!

-he who stacks pork
 
2001-10-08 03:08:55 PM  
Ressurect McVeigh, and point him in the direction of the RIAA
 
2001-10-08 03:14:15 PM  
I seriously hope this evil scheme comes to an end like DIVX (the DVD rent/purchasing idea).
 
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