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(NYPost)   It's not good for M. Night Shyamalan when audiences starting mocking his movie trailers. "The screen showed, 'From the mind of M. Night Shyamalan.' Then everyone erupted in laughter."   (nypost.com) divider line 352
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2010-07-20 02:59:35 PM
I see (spiritually) dead people

www.pastdeadline.com
 
2010-07-20 02:59:55 PM
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I'm getting a kick out of just how much pure HATE there is for ATLA.

I mean, this transcends bad reviews. They're not just saying "it's not worth seeing". The reviews are scathing. Like a crime against humanity. It's being ripped as the worst film travesty of all times and even kids will see that.

I would have thought it was a meme like the Chuck Norris list where people just saw an opportunity to compete at how much creative hyperbole they could generate. But ALL the reviews and especially reader-comments sections began simultaneously generating this unprecedented hate without any such prompting.

Wikipedia says it's up to $135M gross (theaters take a chunk of that), of the $150M production cost, not even counting ~$130M marketing budget. They still got $135M for a universally panned turd.

My theory? If the acting and script's THAT bad- now stay with me here- it could actually get fixed in foreign markets. They could dub it, with a better script, as far as timing permits. NOBODY WOULD NOTICE!

Now here's the absurd part- what if we take a dubbed Japanese-language version with emotional-sounding voice talent, and SUBTITLE it with a better script, thus making it into a good movie?

Yea, that's all kinds of messed up. But, if it's good enough for Hitler, it's good enough for Airbender.
 
2010-07-20 03:02:08 PM
I definitely think this whole "m night sucks and/or has always sucked" bandwagon people are on is bull shiat. Nothing pisses me off more than someone hating something or liking something just because it's cool. I definitely dislike some of his films, but IMO he's made enough good and a couple of EXCELLENT films to maintain a respectable career.

/Unbreakable for the win.
 
2010-07-20 03:08:06 PM
KatjaMouse: Paulistinian: I liked The Village. Suck it.

I did too, even though I figured out the ending about 30 minutes before the twist revealthe minute Sigourney Weaver opened her mouth.


FTFY.

/sorry, Siggy, my love, but it's true :( It was just too obvious that you were going for the "modern person trying to speak in an old-timey way" angle.
 
2010-07-20 03:12:09 PM
Latinwolf: It might help if he stopped having "from M. Night Shyamalan" on his trailers, that's his ego at work. The trailers for Airbender were "M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender", like he created the original series that the movie was based on. It didn't help that he wouldn't cast any Asians in a movie with Asian characters and Asian like culture.

Shiat like this didn't help, either.
 
2010-07-20 03:14:24 PM
LOL check out Aasif Mandvi's own official website (new window)

No mention of Commander Zhao or Airbender on his "Work" list.
 
2010-07-20 03:14:36 PM
sumupid: I definitely think this whole "m night sucks and/or has always sucked" bandwagon people are on is bull shiat. Nothing pisses me off more than someone hating something or liking something just because it's cool.

I said he sucked before it was cool to say that. Hell, I said it before people thought _he_ was cool.
 
2010-07-20 03:15:15 PM
Latinwolf: DansLaLuna: I think more than the "tired of his twists" crap, I am just tired of his overblown ego.

It might help if he stopped having "from M. Night Shyamalan" on his trailers, that's his ego at work. The trailers for Airbender were "M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender", like he created the original series that the movie was based on. It didn't help that he wouldn't cast any Asians in a movie with Asian characters and Asian like culture.


Maybe because it isn't true Japanese anime.. It's actually American produced. I'll admit, I had problems w/ that aspect too, but once I got into the theater and started watching the movie, I got so drawn in that it was never an issue for me.
 
2010-07-20 03:15:50 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed Sixth Sense and thought Unbreakable was outstanding.

I saw Signs and Lady in the Water. Since then, no more M.Night Shamalayyoudownandfarkyououtofmoney for me, thanks.
 
2010-07-20 03:16:22 PM
impaler: From the mind...

No pretentiousness there.

Although the lettering was white on a black background, using high contrast to suggest the brilliance of Shamalong against to the dark background of Hollywood mediocrity. The font was serif, which will elicit in the mind the spiritual pureness of the seraphs that inspire Shamadong, while the negative space portrays the emptiness without him.

All in all, a very inspiring credit.


I was impressed by the subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it.
 
2010-07-20 03:20:58 PM
I just had some spicy food, expecting another Airbender any second now.
 
2010-07-20 03:24:19 PM
I'm sorry, but those few seconds of film in "Signs" where there's the home video footage of a birthday party in Mexico or something, and the alien just walks through the frame for about 2.5 seconds, are about the scariest farking moments I've seen in a film since I was 3 and caught a glimpse of Max Schrek as Count Orlock in "Nosferatu."

THAT, my friends, was some nicely done spooky shiat.
 
2010-07-20 03:26:26 PM
It wasn't the water that killed the aliens, it was one of the chemicals in the municipal water supply. A minor overlook by the aliens.

The aliens had troubles with the door as a metaphor for how often the solution to a problem is right there, and simple, but we often try to make the problem more complex than it is. This fits with the idea of synchronicity, in that the simple answer is "God" but we try to find technological reasons for it, just as the crop circles are clearly alien, but we try to assign some human cause to it, to maintain the status quo.

/made it up.
 
2010-07-20 03:27:54 PM
Hey. I LOVED The Village.

I sympathize with the idea that the modern world could be seen as "wrong", and the idea of giving it up and "roleplaying" a simpler time has its appeal. Amish are not far from that. They KNOW they're in the 20th century, sure, but they're committed to playing the fantasy role of ~18th century people for life.

The concept of being so hardcore as to never break character and keep it a secret from your kids... it's profound.

Lady In The Water... well, lemme say this. I saw it long after it left theaters and had NO hype associated with it. So I saw the title and wondered "hmm, what is this?" with zero expectations.

I don't remember it all that well, but I do recall the basis for the plot, and the Lady character, being pretty remarkable. And I recall some odd "land shark" things that were refreshingly trippy and hardly a conventional movie monster. I do recall the pace and other characters being somewhat stilted and there's a lot of reason it didn't "work" as a movie. I could see where someone paying for a movie at the theater expecting a movie could be pissed.
 
2010-07-20 03:28:41 PM
Zuko: That...wasn't a good play.
Aang: I'll say.
Katara: No kidding.
Suki: Horrible.
Toph: You said it.
Sokka: But the effects were decent.

/Zuko has a burn scar, on the left side
//there is no "authentic" pronunciation for character names
///should have hired actors
////never narrate a love story, it'd be better to just leave it out
 
2010-07-20 03:33:49 PM
digitalrain:

[soapbox]

Personally I don't see why everyone is out to vilify the movie.

Did it follow the Book 1 plot to the letter? No. But it would
be difficult for ANY directory to condense some 20 episodes
(10 hours of content) into one single film that touches on all
plot points.


Bullshiat. You could knock off several of the more "kiddo" episodes (and some of the garbage in the middle of others and condense it to 2.5-3 hours. If it's made well, people will watch that long of a movie (even kids). Not developing the back story of Zuko and his uncle is one of the worst parts of the film. Seriously, the scene in the northern water city sanctuary could have literally been cut/paste and done a better job of telling the story.



Did M. change up the pronunciation of some of the key character's
names? Yes. This was probably my biggest criticism. It was hard
to get past that, but once I did, I actually enjoyed the movie.


Seriously? THAT is your biggest criticism? Good God that's one area where he could actually claim "creative interpretation" and get away with it. You had no problems with the dialogue, patchy plot development, etc?



And then there's the special effects. They were nothing short of
gorgeous. The acting was a bit stilted in some places, but when
you consider the age and experience level of many of the actors,
it really wasn't *that* bad.


Given the level at which special effects have risen to these days, they were mediocre at best. They were great, if this was 1995.


The trick it to go in and watch the movie for it's own merit, not
to see how closely it mimics the original Airbender series. That
is why it is called an ADAPTATION and not a reproduction.


....because a movie series like....LOTR....would have been awesome had they butchered Tolkein. I don't want to have to use a "trick" to go see a movie adaptation. I didn't have to for any of the LOTR movies, Transformers (not hard to adapt cars turning into robots and blowing stuff up...if you expected a plot that's your problem), hell even the Virgin Suicides was decent and the book is waaaay better. It's an adaptation because some things don't translate well from other media, but I expect roughly the same plot and similar characters. The reason they made the movie is because the show/novel were so popular. THEY WERE POPULAR FOR A REASON. If you take away that reason, you get the steaming pile of crap Shamalamadingdong made. Aang not having a fun side? Stupid.



Shyamalan is definitely a hit or miss directory, but I'm not so
sure that he missed on this one.

I've heard he's tentatively planning Book 2 (Earth for those of
you who don't watch the series) and I sincerely hope he does it.

[/soapbox]


Enjoy wasting another $50. I'd rather watch the scenes in SW episode I with Jar Jar on repeat for two hours than waste my time on the crap he makes.

Fark you in the face, Mknightshamalama.
 
2010-07-20 03:34:09 PM
0100010: Zuko: That...wasn't a good play.
Aang: I'll say.
Katara: No kidding.
Suki: Horrible.
Toph: You said it.
Sokka: But the effects were decent.

/Zuko has a burn scar, on the left side
//there is no "authentic" pronunciation for character names
///should have hired actors
////never narrate a love story, it'd be better to just leave it out


Take "not like the cartoon" off the list of Airbender's flaws and the list remains "everything."
 
2010-07-20 03:35:52 PM
poot_rootbeer: Latinwolf: It didn't help that he wouldn't cast any Asians in a movie with Asian characters and Asian like culture.

This is a lie.

The Last Airbender has plenty of Asians playing villains. It's just the heroes that have been turned into Caucasians.


I wasn't counting the Asian Indians, but the orientals as in the original story. The villains there were also oriental.
 
2010-07-20 03:37:33 PM
p.s. I love whoever thought up M. Knight Shamalamadingdong
 
2010-07-20 03:43:48 PM
Oznog: LOL check out Aasif Mandvi's own official website (new window)

No mention of Commander Zhao or Airbender on his "Work" list.


I'm not surprised. As bad as TLA was (re: shiat Sandwich), Aasif Mandvi did a remarkably terrible job, and was the singular worst thing about the film.
 
2010-07-20 03:44:18 PM
0100010: ////never narrate a love story, it'd be better to just leave it out

i689.photobucket.com

Begs to differ.
 
2010-07-20 03:47:04 PM
medicalmiracle: p.s. I love whoever thought up M. Knight Shamalamadingdong

I think that one was pretty much obvious.
 
2010-07-20 03:47:45 PM
Tyrosine: I've never forgiven him for Unbreakable (WORST. MOVIE. EVAR!) and haven't seen anything he's done since.

Your opinion is incorrect.
 
2010-07-20 03:51:15 PM
Hebalo: 0100010: ////never narrate a love story, it'd be better to just leave it out



Begs to differ.


No, PB actually showed the two characters' love for each other, and the whole movie was about that singular fact. TLA actually had Kitara say (paraphrased) "and then we went to the South and Sokka met this girl and they really started to like each other." That's not a love story, that's filling out an outline of what happened in the series.
 
2010-07-20 03:56:35 PM
Kar98: medicalmiracle: p.s. I love whoever thought up M. Knight Shamalamadingdong

I think that one was pretty much obvious.


Rage > pun recognition. :(
 
2010-07-20 03:58:10 PM
My thoughts on The Village.

Blind girl. Woods. Hidden Path.

Besides the fact the EVERYTHING is hidden to a blind girl, what kind of "loving" father would send his "beloved" daughter in to the woods?

Not the strapping, capable, young man. But a blind girl.

He lost me at that point.

---

For Unbreakable, for the haters, what (in your opinion) was wrong with this movie? I meant what made it so horrible?
I honestly want to know.
 
2010-07-20 04:01:39 PM
xanadian: I liked Signs. Up until the ending. WTF.

I'd have to see it again to give a more informed opinion, but I thought the loss of faith bit was a little heavy handed; and yes, the ending completely broke down, which is what sealed it as a shiatty movie. A good director cannot let that happen.
 
2010-07-20 04:06:15 PM
ultraholland: xanadian: I liked Signs. Up until the ending. WTF.

I'd have to see it again to give a more informed opinion, but I thought the loss of faith bit was a little heavy handed; and yes, the ending completely broke down, which is what sealed it as a shiatty movie. A good director cannot let that happen.


I was half-expecting another tacked-on twist at the very end -- like, after the alien was destroyed by water (they've come to a planet 3/4 covered with the stuff and didn't plan for this?!), the camera fades to a shot of the whole family in Matrix-like pods being run by the aliens who, in actual fact, won.

I'm not sure if this would have made it better or worse...
 
2010-07-20 04:08:20 PM
The Happening is almost impossibly bad. If you tried, you could not make a worse movie. Nothing is remotely believable. You laugh every time someone dies. You root for the main characters to die cause they are either entirely inhuman or unlikable. There is not one believable word of dialog in the film. How that didn't ruin Mark Wahlberg's career is beyond me.
 
2010-07-20 04:09:21 PM
www.racebending.com
www.racebending.com

LOL Airbender is so wacist...

All the heroes are European white-skinned, whiter than the animation... villain is darker Indian.

Actually, I'm watching the animation for the first time... it IS kinda racist as far as "Nations" go. A person from Water Tribe can grow up to be a Waterbender or nothing... they can't possibly learn Earthbending, for example. Is that a law, or some kind of genetic limitation, or a racial taboo? We need a Rosa Parks of Water Tribe who REFUSES to stop learning Firebending.

And while they seem to welcome traveling visitors, there doesn't seen to be a path towards naturalization where someone from one Nation could join another and become a "member" of the new Nation.

Nor did I see much for miscegenation between Nations so far... Sokka fell for the princess of another tribe, but it was only another Water tribe. There was the Amazon chick- Suki- but she's of Kyoshi Warriors which don't seem to be affiliated with a Bending Nation at all. So, apparently, there IS a taboo that members of a Nation cannot marry members of another Nation.

Oh hey another difference:

AT FIRST I WAS LIKE
www.racebending.com

BUT THEN
www.racebending.com
I LOL'ED*
(*except Zuko, who needs a kitten)
 
2010-07-20 04:14:39 PM
Oznog: LOL Airbender is so wacist...
All the heroes are European white-skinned, whiter than the animation... villain is darker Indian.




But if it's made by an Indian guy, isn't that okay? I thought that was the rule regarding such things -- you're allowed to say anything you like, as long as you only disparage the group(s) to which you belong. I.e., Jews can make Jew-jokes, black people can call one another attractive & successful, etc.

/or perhaps my PC-fu is weak
 
2010-07-20 04:15:50 PM
JerkStore: I'm sorry, but those few seconds of film in "Signs" where there's the home video footage of a birthday party in Mexico or something, and the alien just walks through the frame for about 2.5 seconds, are about the scariest farking moments I've seen in a film since I was 3 and caught a glimpse of Max Schrek as Count Orlock in "Nosferatu."

THAT, my friends, was some nicely done spooky shiat.


Thank you, this. Wasn't the greatest movie ever but it was scary and worth 2 hours and $10.

Kar98: medicalmiracle: p.s. I love whoever thought up M. Knight Shamalamadingdong

I think that one was pretty much obvious.


Yeah, it is pretty much self apparent. But, whoever posted Otis Day up above is pretty damned clever.
 
2010-07-20 04:17:04 PM
Yeah, my theater reacted the same way.

KatjaMouse: it looks like it would've made a great Twilight Zone episode

Basically it is one - "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up?" - except it's in an elevator, not a diner, and it's the Devil, not a Martian.

The Mind of M. Night Shyamalan is stuck reading The Twilight Zone Companion, that's all.
 
2010-07-20 04:17:39 PM
The Committee For Aesthetic Deletions: Incredible movie making, and people who try to make the movie be something realistic about aliens are missing the point and need to Google "MacGuffin."

At some point, people who wave around a alien in green pyjamas that's poisoned by water as a viable MacGuffin should google "suspension of disbelief".
 
2010-07-20 04:22:09 PM
I remember watching the Village and getting increasingly annoyed with all the sloppiness.

The Village was too damn small to support that many people, they all wore very pretty clothes, didn't need to trade, had no access to cloth or wool, no blacksmith, no glass, no industry, no place to get oil to light their nightly fires. But gosh, they were productive, somehow.

It had all the set pieces of a run-down pioneer village with no attention to detail. It was all these little things that made the entire thing entirely unplausible.

So, the towns are bad, but living in a forest with fox men is better? It's so much better you need a vigil every night?

I don't recall when it became obvious it was the old folk who were in costumes, but when it was revealed that they were a bunch of functional retards, who decided to doom their offspring to inbreeding and an early death in the middle of a goddam forest - I was thoroughly annoyed.

What a slipshod effort to tell the story about rhe desires of a group of selfish fragile old people who decide to shelter their chlldren in impoverished isolation.
 
2010-07-20 04:23:13 PM
theorellior: At some point, people who wave around a alien in green pyjamas that's poisoned by water as a viable MacGuffin should google "suspension of disbelief".

"..and reasonable limits thereof."
 
2010-07-20 04:25:12 PM
Brother Head: For Unbreakable, for the haters, what (in your opinion) was wrong with this movie? I meant what made it so horrible?
I honestly want to know.


I liked Unbreakable but it was kind of like the first Star Trek movie. You could watch it in fast forward and still get the gist of it. It was just kind of slow, is all. And any ending that you have to read in a closing paragraph isn't the best story telling.
 
2010-07-20 04:25:33 PM
Mugato: The guy might suck but can we please stop saying "Shamalamadingdong"? It's farking obnoxious.

a billion times THIS
 
2010-07-20 04:29:34 PM
I was kinda hoping the use of "haterz" would die out before now. There's obnoxious, and then there's, it's time to start shooting people who over use painfully Rtarded catch words.
 
2010-07-20 04:30:40 PM
gregory311: unlikely: xanadian: Don't think that movie's gonna break even.

No movie ever breaks even.

This is quite possibly the dumbest statement I've seen on fark in years.


Hollywood accounting. Very few movies make money. Ever.

If Star Wars can't even break even, 99% of the shiat churned out of the movie-making machine never comes close.


/they would have made a profit if it wasn't for the $100-billion dollars in lost sales that will be blamed on piracy, of course
 
2010-07-20 04:31:23 PM
Devil looks pretty good. M. Night written, but not directed. Sept. 17 release date. Check out the trailers. Of course Silent Hill is one of my favorite movies of all time, so of course this looks good to me.

My opinion is that he hasn't had a good movie since Unbreakable, but I enjoyed Signs and I enjoyed The Village until the end.
 
2010-07-20 04:35:08 PM
gregory311: unlikely: xanadian: Don't think that movie's gonna break even.

No movie ever breaks even.

This is quite possibly the dumbest statement I've seen on fark in years.


actually it's true. Its hollywood accounting. Forrest Gump lost money according to the studio. Yes everyone involved made money hand over fist but according to the way they account for it the film was actually a loss.

The poster wassnt buying the BS, just pointing it out
 
2010-07-20 04:36:02 PM
Lamune_Baba: /they would have made a profit if it wasn't for the $100-billion dollars in lost sales that will be blamed on piracy, of course

Maybe they could stop the piracy with better ships. Can Lucas' ships make the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs?
 
2010-07-20 04:37:02 PM
Digitalstrange: gregory311: unlikely: xanadian: Don't think that movie's gonna break even.

No movie ever breaks even.

This is quite possibly the dumbest statement I've seen on fark in years.

actually it's true.



"Dumb" and "true" are not mutually-exclusive.
 
2010-07-20 04:38:52 PM
wmoonfox: Most of the bad reviews I'm hearing are either from fans disappointed that story had to be cut in order to fit an entire season into a movie adaptation, adults who find PG movies unattractive, or people who hate kung-fu theater.

I didn't know about the series until after I watched the movie, and I generally like kung-fu stuff (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a great film).

That particular critique was strictly about the extra movements just to do the "bending" -- it was unnecessary flashiness that only made the scenes where it was used more implausible (long action to bend = more time for enemy to attack), and as has been pointed out the actions to "bend" the cartoon are much more straightforward (again, as I found out later).
 
2010-07-20 04:44:10 PM
I thought he was pretty good in Black Dynamite.
 
2010-07-20 04:46:53 PM
juniper lopez's hedgetrimmer: I remember watching the Village and getting increasingly annoyed with all the sloppiness.

The Village was too damn small to support that many people, they all wore very pretty clothes, didn't need to trade, had no access to cloth or wool, no blacksmith, no glass, no industry, no place to get oil to light their nightly fires. But gosh, they were productive, somehow.

It had all the set pieces of a run-down pioneer village with no attention to detail. It was all these little things that made the entire thing entirely unplausible.

So, the towns are bad, but living in a forest with fox men is better? It's so much better you need a vigil every night?

I don't recall when it became obvious it was the old folk who were in costumes, but when it was revealed that they were a bunch of functional retards, who decided to doom their offspring to inbreeding and an early death in the middle of a goddam forest - I was thoroughly annoyed.

What a slipshod effort to tell the story about rhe desires of a group of selfish fragile old people who decide to shelter their chlldren in impoverished isolation.


Yeah, I picked up on it initially as a shortcoming of writing, they had no contact with, or knowledge of, other villages or cities yet had manufactured goods they could not have made. That they didn't wholly fit their environment and that the writing had unnaturally limited the scope of "the world". I always found it amusing that a Stargate SG1 "world" consisted of at most 2 dozen people who lived in a small village within walking distance of the stargate.

I'm just saying, I'm accustomed to seeing this and didn't assume these fairly typical sorts of inconsistencies were going to be PART of the plot. That threw me for a loop.

And I can't immediate dismiss their plan as retarded. It's NOT that far from Amish. It spawned not from religion but acquired beliefs though. Well, even Amish, I don't think the older basis of their sect originally required this explicitly. After all, there'd be no reason for their founders to state they must live like they're in the 1800's while IN the 1800's. It was kind of a given at the time. It was a community idea developed later.

I know a LOT of people who would say kids are better off raised in a world without TVs and texting and Facebook (and they may be on to something there, ya know). Now historically, other than the Amish, of course there's been many separatist communities, but they're typically cults and were oppressive and hardly successful in any capacity. The hypothetical writing of an apparently successful one creating a nice place to lovingly raise kids without distraction or threats... it's a nice "idea". I liked it!

Now also, they really weren't prepared for the question of what to do with their kids when they grew up, an impossibly difficult question. But the writing did NOT neglect this. That was the ending, the thing about "How do we continue with the secret's known to one of the kids- or do we even WANT to?"
 
2010-07-20 04:48:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfDk3I6di5E
 
2010-07-20 04:51:17 PM
Sixth Sense was good, Signs was good, Unbreakable was good, The Village was good. If you think he is a bad director than you are farkin retarded.
 
2010-07-20 04:52:21 PM
Elevator movie....It's the elevator.
 
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