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(NYPost)   It's not good for M. Night Shyamalan when audiences starting mocking his movie trailers. "The screen showed, 'From the mind of M. Night Shyamalan.' Then everyone erupted in laughter."   (nypost.com ) divider line
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2010-07-20 07:38:13 PM  

DansLaLuna: He is peerless in his virtuosity


Starring Denzel Washington and Russel Crowe
 
2010-07-20 07:48:07 PM  

Brother Head: If there is water everywhere, why aren't we drowning? Or why can't we stay underwater with out assistance?

Maybe that's the same reason they aliens aren't being destroyed by water vapor, but actual water can hurt them?

Things that make you go hmmm....


Hahahah.

Please, revisit your 6th grade science class. It doesn't seem like you were paying attention.
 
2010-07-20 07:50:28 PM  

bglove25: I enjoyed Lady in the Water. I think M. shoots his movies really well and while maybe not the best writer, I think its because he focuses on the subtext more than the nominal plot.

For example, Lady in the Water is a movie about the importance of stories and story telling. Considering the only culture most people share these days is pop-culture (not traditional stories or religious backgrounds) the stories we tell and experience are the only things holding us together in a communal sense.

Or you could biatch that the plot was rediculous. Either way really.


As Robert Wuhl would explain...all history is pop-culture. Those stories and legends passed down through generations are nothing more than the pop culture of its time. Given a few decades, we will talk about legendary heroes like Jack Bauer...

Unless you actually think some guy named Achilles was dipped in the river Styx.
 
2010-07-20 07:50:29 PM  
And there's a version of the above without word balloons:

img340.imageshack.us

http://jpmorgan.deviantart.com/art/Shyamalan-Balloonless-170049474

Funny how Shyamalmadingdong's defenders are as pretentious as he is...
 
j68
2010-07-20 07:55:28 PM  
1. Sixth Sense
2. Signs
3. The Village
4. Unbreakable

The rest of his movies are shiat.
 
2010-07-20 07:59:03 PM  

Oznog: Amish are not far from that. They KNOW they're in the 20th century...


Wait...what?
 
2010-07-20 08:08:54 PM  

iostream.h: The people who can't suspend disbelief for the water in signs must also hate the ending to war of the worlds as well.

Signs was about a mans crises of faith, the aliens were a plot device.


What's with you people who don't understand that suspension of disbelief is pretty important?
 
2010-07-20 08:24:53 PM  

iostream.h: GungFu: iostream.h: I've noticed that it is trendy to slam M. Knight Shyamalan.

The people who can't suspend disbelief for the water in signs must also hate the ending to war of the worlds as well.

Signs was about a mans crises of faith, the aliens were a plot device.

I think your excuses are somewhat pathetic, and you are most likely M Night Shyamalalalananan in disguise.

No one thinks you're cool for spelling his name "Shyamalalalananan".



Ok, tell us how we write your name then?
 
2010-07-20 08:37:29 PM  

spamdog: What's with you people who don't understand that suspension of disbelief is pretty important?


Suspension of disbelief works in specific ways. It allows you to immerse yourself into a fantasy, but it does not absolve internal inconsistencies.

For example, I know that the Star Trek universe is entirely fictional. But I'm willing to suspend that disbelief and accept the universe that's being presented to me in order to enjoy the story being told. The aliens, the "phaser" weapons, transporter machines and faster-than-light travel, I know that none of that is real, but I'm accepting that within the context of this setting, all of these things exist and function according to a set of laws which remain consistent.

The water thing in Signs makes it impossible for the suspension of disbelief to apply because it shatters its own internal consistency. These aliens come to earth - our earth, which is presented as the world that we all currently inhabit - and spend much of their time walking around unprotected on the surface. We see no indication that they have any trouble living unprotected in our atmosphere, and we see them doing quite a bit of just that during the movie. Then at the very end of the movie, it's revealed that water is a deadly, caustic chemical to them. This is internally inconsistent because we understand that A) our world is a wet, water-soaked one, B) the aliens chose to come to it and are able to exist within it, unprotected, without difficulty, and yet C) water is deadly to them.

This is not a failure of the watcher to suspend their disbelief properly, it's a failure of the movie to present conditions which make it possible to suspend disbelief.
 
2010-07-20 08:45:09 PM  

ChadM89: C) water is deadly to them


As was mentioned a dozen times in this thread, it's the impurities in the water that killed them, not just water itself. This was explained by the daughter leaving glasses of water around because she said the water was dirty.
 
2010-07-20 08:52:03 PM  
Aw, I liked The Village, and Unbreakable was brilliant.

The Last Airbender, though? That was a show on Cartoon Network--which is enough to keep me from watching a movie in theatres.
 
2010-07-20 08:54:37 PM  

Mugato: As was mentioned a dozen times in this thread, it's the impurities in the water that killed them, not just water itself. This was explained by the daughter leaving glasses of water around because she said the water was dirty.


Bull. Find me a single explanation from an authoratative source which makes that claim, what exactly they mean by it, and how the viewer was supposed to glean that specific information from the film.

The girl left half-full glasses of water everywhere because of what was clearly an OCD-type of disorder. Saying that the water was "dirty" most likely referred to a form of mysophobia which she was suffering from, fearing that the water had become tainted by germs. It didn't actually have alien-killing compounds in it, she was just a little screwed up in the head.

The reality is that tap water is relatively clean water. Any impurities or germs found in tap water would also be found in atmospheric water.

That's a line of apologetic bullshiat by people who are just barely smart enough to realize they liked a movie that they're too stupid to know is terrible.
 
2010-07-20 08:57:43 PM  

ZMugg: NeuroticRocker: the difference between shaymalan and any good director, is that every director or artist is allowed to have one great opus that they never live up to again. it happens all the time. they make something great, be it a book, or a cd, or a painting or a movie, and they realize nothing they ever produce will be as well received and perfect as that thing. the difference though is shaymalan isnt trying anymore, and he doesnt care. and even if he is trying, nothing lives up to the previous works. this is a line graph of his career: \

Agrees.


Ummm orson welles did a lot of great movies.

his final documentary f is for fake is farking genius. its brilliant.

fark the morons.
 
2010-07-20 08:59:12 PM  
By the way, it's not some recent "trend" to hate Dingdong. It's pretty much been happening for years.

Mugato: it's the impurities in the water that killed them


What about the lake thing that someone mentioned?

ChadM89: This is not a failure of the watcher to suspend their disbelief properly, it's a failure of the movie to present conditions which make it possible to suspend disbelief.


You don't have to tell me. I'm still farked off about the "water evaporation machine" that apparently didn't evaporate everyone's bodies from Batman Begins.
 
2010-07-20 08:59:36 PM  

ChadM89: That's a line of apologetic bullshiat by people who are just barely smart enough to realize they liked a movie that they're too stupid to know is terrible.


I didn't like the movie at all but that's the explanation. That's why the dead wife told her to "see". I didn't say it was a good explanation but there it is.
 
2010-07-20 09:00:14 PM  
M. Night Shyamalan is like the anti-Christopher Nolan.
 
2010-07-20 09:05:32 PM  

cynicalbastard: Paulistinian: I liked The Village. Suck it.

The Village definitely did suck it. "Geez, we gotta get meds for the kid. Instead of one of us pathetic, paranoid, rich bastards getting off his or her fat ass and leaving here with some chance of actually getting it, let's all let this blind kid with zero experience of the outside world have a crack at it? What's the worst that could happen, outside of traffic accidents, gang rape, homicide, etc?" Made as much sense as a cardboard fire extinguisher.


I pointed out the same thing while leaving the theater after seeing the Village, and my sister claimed that that was the point. The adults were cowards. They ran from society instead of dealing with their problems, and so they were psychologically incapable of leaving the village, even if it was a life or death situation. Similar to the phobia where you can't leave your apartment, but broader in scope.

I told her that she was probably right, but that didn't stop the movie from sucking.
 
2010-07-20 09:08:11 PM  
The 2010 Flyers were a M Night production.

/defeat Bruins like the Red Sox
//Blackhawks still win Cup
///What a Twist!
 
2010-07-20 09:17:05 PM  

spamdog: You don't have to tell me. I'm still farked off about the "water evaporation machine" that apparently didn't evaporate everyone's bodies from Batman Begins.


Hahahahahaha, me too. Batman Begins would have been a much better movie if the Big Ending didn't revolve around a steam gun blowing up the sewers. It was just about as silly as the killer penguins from Batman Returns.
 
2010-07-20 09:35:29 PM  

Mugato: ChadM89: C) water is deadly to them

As was mentioned a dozen times in this thread, it's the impurities in the water that killed them, not just water itself. This was explained by the daughter leaving glasses of water around because she said the water was dirty.


Then why was that other farmer who retreated down to the lake safe? He mentioned that he went down there because the aliens seemed to avoid the lake. That's a pretty big hint that all water was a problem for them.

/plus most rural homes are on wells
 
2010-07-20 09:59:05 PM  
ironically, "signs" was on tv tonight.

it was still just as good and gripping as it was when i watched it in the theatre 8 years ago.

/good lord... was it really almost a decade ago? whoa
 
2010-07-20 10:16:44 PM  

ElPollotonto: The worst part is that "Devil" is a rip off of another B-rated horror movie... in that movie one of the people in the elevator was a serial killer and not the devil which I'm sure is the only difference...


It is probably more similar to the fourth series Doctor Who episode "Midnight". That one actually had a "devil" in it.
 
2010-07-20 10:18:42 PM  
I saw the trailer for Lady in the Water in the theater, and stage whispered "I SEE WET PEOPLE" at the end of it, to much laughter.

/cool story bro
 
2010-07-21 12:23:05 AM  
iostream.h Quote 2010-07-20 07:28:36 PM
I've noticed that it is trendy to slam M. Knight Shyamalan.

The people who can't suspend disbelief for the water in signs must also hate the ending to war of the worlds as well.

Signs was about a mans crises of faith, the aliens were a plot device.

>>>

people want to be entertained by intelligent writers and directors. Not tricked into handing them $20 for a joke of a script and a joke director who only has a "twist" to get people on. That isn't talent. People pay to see talent. You are just either a sucker, or someone who profits from it.
 
2010-07-21 12:36:46 AM  

maachubo: cynicalbastard: Paulistinian: I liked The Village. Suck it.

The Village definitely did suck it. "Geez, we gotta get meds for the kid. Instead of one of us pathetic, paranoid, rich bastards getting off his or her fat ass and leaving here with some chance of actually getting it, let's all let this blind kid with zero experience of the outside world have a crack at it? What's the worst that could happen, outside of traffic accidents, gang rape, homicide, etc?" Made as much sense as a cardboard fire extinguisher.

I pointed out the same thing while leaving the theater after seeing the Village, and my sister claimed that that was the point. The adults were cowards. They ran from society instead of dealing with their problems, and so they were psychologically incapable of leaving the village, even if it was a life or death situation. Similar to the phobia where you can't leave your apartment, but broader in scope.

I told her that she was probably right, but that didn't stop the movie from sucking.


If I was ever that scared that I couldn't face my irrational fears to stop a kid from dying, I would hope I'd have the common frigging decency to throw a rope around my neck and let my net nutritional requirements go to someone more human.
 
2010-07-21 12:57:03 AM  
i actually liked the village...that being said,the reason he pissed me off initially was because in the trailers, the concepts are cool and they always appear to be scary movies and then they turn into some "moral of life" bullshiat and really,nothing is frightening about it at all

i guarantee the devil is gonna be like it was all in their minds or some other bullshiat and insert lesson learned here.
 
2010-07-21 01:18:23 AM  
You know, I didn't really hate MNS.
I loved the Sixth Sense, and I thought Signs was good as well.
Unbreakable was interesting but dull, and The Village was only so-so.
I didn't see Lady in the Water, but The Happening was completely retarded.
I'm forgiving, though -- he has done some good work, I can forgive missteps.

With Avatar, though, he just went and ruined my hopes for a good or even remotely faithful interpretation of one of my very favorite animated series. He couldn't even manage to pronounce the names of the characters correctly -- characters that have had been established over the course of three entire seasons -- like he was telling the original writers that they had been doing it wrong or something. Screw you, Shyamalan, for f**king up The Last Airbender. I hope the studio dumps you for your epic failure and gets someone else to direct the other two. Maybe at least that way I can have 2/3rds of Avatar done correctly.
 
2010-07-21 01:19:54 AM  
^what???

avatar??
 
2010-07-21 01:22:07 AM  
As a director, Shyamalan can create visually impressive scenes. As a writer, he then damages those very scenes with how his characters interact, especially their dialogue. He desperately needs outside input into his writing so his characters are less inhuman. Alternately, someone needs to limit him to writing OR directing for a film, but not both.
 
2010-07-21 01:26:02 AM  
The Last Airbender - Was interested until I saw his name
The Happening - Looks like an unholy fusion of MNight and Stephen King
Lady in the Water - holy crap this looked stupid. Then I read about it and it sounded 10x stupider.
The Village - I don't think I'm dumb enough to enjoy this.
Signs - Saw about half of it and wanted everyone on the screen to just die somehow to end the misery.
Unbreakable - Boringest superhero movie ever. Samuel Jackson saved this from being completely terrible.
The Sixth Sense - Very decent movie, good performances, will watch it again someday.
 
2010-07-21 01:28:40 AM  

Lemonlight: The Last Airbender, though? That was a show on Cartoon Network--which is enough to keep me from watching a movie in theatres.


The cartoon was actually very, very good.
It was three seasons and, even though it was meant for kids (it originally aired on Nickelodeon), lots of adults have gotten into it. The writing is great, with plenty of humor and good character development, and a strong story in a very interesting world. If you can look past the fact that it is a kids cartoon, it is an extremely entertaining show with some very endearing characters.
 
2010-07-21 01:32:16 AM  

penceyprepreject: ^what???

avatar??


Yes.
The title of the original cartoon was Avatar: The Last Airbender. He changed the name after James Cameron's movie came out, but when I said "Avatar" I was referring to Shyamalan's Airbender movie. Sorry for confusion, that's just what I'm used to calling it, hehe.
 
2010-07-21 01:43:31 AM  
M Knight and George Lucas have to have the worst ears for dialogue of anybody in Hollywood...
 
2010-07-21 01:58:41 AM  
It appears that Shyamalan is no longer able to do the needful for American audiences. India team, please reply back when a replacement resouce has been appoved, so that we can prepare a KT for said person.
 
2010-07-21 02:25:14 AM  

Gawdzila: penceyprepreject: ^what???

avatar??

Yes.
The title of the original cartoon was Avatar: The Last Airbender. He changed the name after James Cameron's movie came out, but when I said "Avatar" I was referring to Shyamalan's Airbender movie. Sorry for confusion, that's just what I'm used to calling it, hehe.


lol when I went to buy a ticket I called it Avatar too. (Yes I saw it in the theater because I love the cartoon version.) the woman behind the counter said "That's not in theaters anymore." and I said "Yes it is the 9:30 showing right there." My husband had to remind me they changed the name. *sigh* The movie sucked but I got to see it with one of my favorite cousins, who is a comic artist, who freaked out about how bad it was the whole way home. That was worth the $20.
 
2010-07-21 02:38:37 AM  
theinspirationroom.com

Do you wanna date my Avatar?
 
2010-07-21 02:50:20 AM  
Can someone post a mirror?

I'd like to see the clip
 
2010-07-21 08:35:26 AM  

Skylenorman: Are we sure they weren't yelling "Boo-urns"?


I was saying boo-urns :(
 
2010-07-21 09:19:19 AM  
Well, I know that bender is UK slang for homosexual, and air guitar is pretending to play a guitar without an actual guitar, so I find this "Air bender" concept a bit disturbing, yet intriguing.
 
2010-07-21 09:31:08 AM  
really, there's people who didn't figure out what The Village was about just by watching the trailers? It's not a bad film, but obvious allegory is obvious.

and there must be some new meme where people are actually praising The Happening beyond being so bad it's good. The movie got absolutely nothing right.
 
2010-07-21 09:38:03 AM  
My friends were at that screening. After this Airbender picture, who in their right mind would fund his projects?
 
2010-07-21 09:56:54 AM  

Tyrosine: I've never forgiven him for Unbreakable (WORST. MOVIE. EVAR!) and haven't seen anything he's done since.


you make me stabby that is the awesome subtle refined and very very dark
 
2010-07-21 10:25:37 AM  

Lemonlight: Aw, I liked The Village, and Unbreakable was brilliant.

The Last Airbender, though? That was a show on Cartoon Network--which is enough to keep me from watching a movie in theatres.


Except that it never aired on Cartoon Network.
 
2010-07-21 11:41:01 AM  
Have not liked one of his movies since 6th Sense but am I the only one that thinks Devil looks good?
 
2010-07-21 11:54:16 AM  

unlikely: xanadian: Don't think that movie's gonna break even.

No movie ever breaks even.


James Cameron would like to have a word with you.
 
2010-07-21 12:10:29 PM  
M. Night should direct the next Eclipse movie.
 
2010-07-21 12:28:12 PM  

Lernaeus: The Village? Didn't stray from Shyamalan's Twilight Zone form. People didn't like it because they expected a twist ending, which -- no matter how neat the twist -- no one's going to satisfied with because they're expecting it. Had Shyamalan anticipated their anticipation, people would probably have liked it. Had The Village come out before Sixth Sense, people would be biatching about the latter.


i didnt 'expect' it. in fact i thought surely he would stray away from that formula. but then i realized what was happening literally 15 minutes into that piece of shiat movie.

as if this guy wasnt lame enough already, does anyone remember that gaytastic scifi special he had prior to the village coming out?
 
2010-07-21 01:06:10 PM  

stephen74: unlikely: xanadian: Don't think that movie's gonna break even.

No movie ever breaks even.

James Cameron would like to have a word with you.


Yeah, that statement makes no sense. A movie has a budget. It has to make that back plus roughly half that cover marketing. That's not a hard rule since Avatar and whatever crap fest Jennifer Aniston was in lately probably had about the same marketing budget. But it's a rule of thumb.

Then, if they have a big star like Tom Cruise (well he used to be a big star), he gets a slice. After that it's all profit for the studio. Then there are DVD sales, TV rights and in the case of movies like Avatar, merchandising.

If no movie ever made a profit, how are all these studios still open? Unless he means "according to the books" no movie makes a profit. That's different. But if there's one aspect of movie making Hollywood is still good at, it's accounting. They have it down to a science. Few movies get made that don't eventually squeak out some kind of profit.
 
2010-07-21 02:24:01 PM  
Just saw Inception last night, and at least 2 people behind me laughed when the name showed up in the trailer for Devil. I was aware of this thread prior to going.

I live in Bismarck where people generally don't keep up with these sorts of national trends, and also tend to like any nearly any movie they see, so if his schtick is tired here as well, he probably should keep his name off of shiat for a good 5 years.
 
2010-07-21 07:08:30 PM  

Oznog:
Nor did I see much for miscegenation between Nations so far... Sokka fell for the princess of another tribe, but it was only another Water tribe. There was the Amazon chick- Suki- but she's of Kyoshi Warriors which don't seem to be affiliated with a Bending Nation at all. So, apparently, there IS a taboo that members of a Nation cannot marry members of another Nation


Keep watching. Kyoshi Warriors ... Kyoshi Island ... both named for Kyoshi the Earthbending badazz warrior woman. How Kyoshi Island was formed is godlike. What I like is that Aang has no complexes whatsoever with his female predecessors, he's like 'yeah, that was me' like it's a fact of life and everyone else is like it's just a fact of life, too. No big deal. That's incredible, for me. That never happens in media.

As for taboos.... All the kids fall in love or have someone fall in love with them from different nations/tribes, at one point or another. Well, except for one person, and that allows for something pretty funny to happen. Love isn't taboo, but one's feelings about nationality can get in the way -- if you're of the Fire Nation. Everyone's a racist/ethnicist in their own way, there are no innocents. The cartoon does a great non-hammer job of explaining how all people are the same, and how people (being the same) let expectations and prejudices supercede what's in front of their own eyes.
 
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