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2010-07-19 11:58:57 AM
I swear to God, Andy Kaufman is going to rip that guy's skin off and jump out and yell, "THE ARISTOCRATS!" at some well-timed juncture.
 
2010-07-19 12:13:27 PM
Greene Greene the Campaigning Machine
 
2010-07-19 12:22:58 PM
Karma has him up in the polls by 7 points.
 
2010-07-19 12:35:45 PM
I love Fox News' graphics:

sharing.myfoxdc.com

It's like the US is bleeding socialism.
 
2010-07-19 01:28:15 PM
The_Sponge: Greene Greene the Campaigning Machine

Sorry, but....

***GONNNNNGGGG***
 
2010-07-19 03:15:43 PM
u don't need campaign speeches to win elections.

u do need lots and lots of money and the corporate owned "news" networks on your side.
 
2010-07-19 03:17:03 PM
What the hell is wrong with South Carolina? How the hell did this happen?
 
2010-07-19 03:17:52 PM
Linux_Yes: u don't need campaign speeches to win elections.

u do need lots and lots of money and the corporate owned "news" networks on your side.


He doesn't want to get into details cause they'll bore everyone.

I'm in Charlotte, he's on the radio here just about everyday. Its fantastic.
 
2010-07-19 03:18:18 PM
imma laff when he beats the Repub.
 
2010-07-19 03:19:47 PM
asciibaron: imma laff when he beats the Repub.

yea....not even going to come close to happening
 
2010-07-19 03:20:23 PM
FTFA: Greene's candidacy and surprise victory over Vic Rawl raised questions after it was learned the victor was unemployed yet still paid the $10,000 filing fee required for a Senate run, had been involuntarily discharged from the U.S. Army for undisclosed reasons and was facing a felony obscenity charge for showing online pornography to a female college student.

OK, Mr. Greene, what's your Fark handle?
 
2010-07-19 03:20:25 PM
davidphogan: What the hell is wrong with South Carolina? How the hell did this happen?
It's South Carolina what else needs to be said.

/Why yes I live just north of this state
 
2010-07-19 03:21:03 PM
Diogenes: The_Sponge: Greene Greene the Campaigning Machine

Sorry, but....

***GONNNNNGGGG***



Ha!
 
2010-07-19 03:21:08 PM
Biness: Linux_Yes: u don't need campaign speeches to win elections.

u do need lots and lots of money and the corporate owned "news" networks on your side.

He doesn't want to get into details cause they'll bore everyone.

I'm in Charlotte, he's on the radio here just about everyday. Its fantastic.


Amen to that.
 
2010-07-19 03:21:10 PM
I guess there's at least one college campus he won't campaign at...
 
2010-07-19 03:22:38 PM
We really don't know what happened. Everyone assumed the Superintendent of Education running against him would slaughter him and instead voted in the Republican Primary because of the heated governor's race.

Then after the primary everyone looked around and thought, "Who the hell is this guy?"

Then he got interviewed by the local news and...well you know how that went. The guy seems barely literate.

But on the upside, he's an unemployed veteran....so we know he'll be good for the welfare checks.
 
2010-07-19 03:22:43 PM
Feindevil: davidphogan: What the hell is wrong with South Carolina? How the hell did this happen?
It's South Carolina what else needs to be said.

/Why yes I live just north of this state


this whole saga makes me laugh everyday. local radio guy trots him out and the guy never fails to deliver some grade A crazy.

His economic recovery plan, and i'm not joking, is to sell bobble head dolls of himself. He says it will stimulate manufacturing and sales.

It's like he's friggen 5
 
2010-07-19 03:28:57 PM
The more I hear about this guy the more I think he would be a better senator than the 100 people currently serving.
 
2010-07-19 03:29:38 PM
heavymetal: The more I hear about this guy the more I think he would be a better senator than the 100 people currently serving.

its not quite 100. some of them are women.
 
2010-07-19 03:31:52 PM
davidphogan - What the hell is wrong with South Carolina? How the hell did this happen?


One theory mentioned by a talking head is that South Carolina apparently has "open" primary, meaning people from other parties can vote. Since primaries don't pull in many votes or much interest outside the truly hard-core members of the party, it wouldn't take many "spoilers" to pull a dirty trick and help the less-qualified candidate win. THAT would help the guy representing the other party, who is also the incumbent in this case.

Whether or not that's what actually happened here is anyone's guess.
 
2010-07-19 03:35:52 PM
Alvin's facebook page is awesome. It has 2 pictures, no info, and a blank wall. It looks like he has it set up so that the public can write on his wall. Could be interesting....
 
2010-07-19 03:39:46 PM
Uhaul Charlie: Alvin's facebook page is awesome. It has 2 pictures, no info, and a blank wall. It looks like he has it set up so that the public can write on his wall. Could be interesting....

Dear lord. lets pause this until after working hours. I remember the joy of the Ric Romero facebook page.
 
2010-07-19 03:40:41 PM
Rubberband Girl: davidphogan - What the hell is wrong with South Carolina? How the hell did this happen?


One theory mentioned by a talking head is that South Carolina apparently has "open" primary, meaning people from other parties can vote. Since primaries don't pull in many votes or much interest outside the truly hard-core members of the party, it wouldn't take many "spoilers" to pull a dirty trick and help the less-qualified candidate win. THAT would help the guy representing the other party, who is also the incumbent in this case.

Whether or not that's what actually happened here is anyone's guess.


Actually, they've pretty well debunked that idea. A study of the voters and voting patterns in both primaries showed that there was little, if any, party crossover. Republicans voted for Republicans and Democrats voted for Democrats.

The current thinking is that it basically comes down to laziness. Neither candidate campaigned or had name recognition. The voters in the Democratic primary either picked the first name on the ballot, or the one that sounded best to them.

The SC Democratic Party decided not to pursue a challenge because they knew it didn't matter. DeMint will beat anyone, and they could better spend their money in other races where they have a chance. A likely Independent spoiler candidate also decided not to run for the same reason. DeMint's only challengers are Greene (who will be lucky if he gets any support from his party) and a Green Party candidate.
 
2010-07-19 03:43:00 PM
davidphogan: What the hell is wrong with South Carolina? How the hell did this happen?

South Carolina Democrats have a large percent of African American voters. There was not much (as is none) campaigning by either one of the Democratic candidates, and the media was focused on the Republican primaries.
When the Democrat voters stepped into the voting booths, there was no name recognition, and one candidate had a more 'ethnic' sounding name then the other. As a result, Alvin Greene won the primary hands down against Vic Rawl.
While this is not an angle of the story that national news media ran, a few local news outlets asked voters why they voted for Alvin Greene. The answer was, he was the black candidate.
Both Alvin Greene and Vic Rawl are Black.
 
2010-07-19 03:43:29 PM
There's no spoiler working here. The republican primary in the governor's race was one of the most hotly contested in recent memory. No one I was voting in the Democratic contest so that Jim Demint would win by 40% rather than just 25% to the other guy. It didn't really matter to republicans who won that primary, in fact very few people ever heard of his opposition. The average democrat also had never heard of either candidate, it was simply a case of people going to the polls to vote for their favorite for governor and selecting the most familiar sounding name in the Senate race.

If the Republicans were orchestrating a "spoiler" (and don't you think organizing that many thousands of people would leak somewhere) they would have focused on keeping Vincent Sheheen out of the governor's race in the democratic primary because he could actually win.
 
2010-07-19 03:47:42 PM
Opps, Vic is not black
 
2010-07-19 03:51:50 PM
Biness: Uhaul Charlie: Alvin's facebook page is awesome. It has 2 pictures, no info, and a blank wall. It looks like he has it set up so that the public can write on his wall. Could be interesting....

Dear lord. lets pause this until after working hours. I remember the joy of the Ric Romero facebook page.


Roger that, I 'liked" it but will wait to commence operation Alvin's Facebook page until after working hours.
 
2010-07-19 03:51:51 PM
ghostfart: Both Alvin Greene and Vic Rawl are Black.

And burned up the Soul charts in the 1970s with "Let's Stay Together" and "You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine", respectively.
 
2010-07-19 03:53:05 PM
Linux_Yes: u don't need campaign speeches to win elections.

u do need lots and lots of money and the corporate owned "news" networks on your side.


so how do you explain him?
 
2010-07-19 03:53:23 PM
i870.photobucket.com
 
2010-07-19 03:54:52 PM
demarke: If the Republicans were orchestrating a "spoiler" (and don't you think organizing that many thousands of people would leak somewhere) they would have focused on keeping Vincent Sheheen out of the governor's race in the democratic primary because he could actually win.

They would have also probably done at least some work to get their guy elected (and picked someone who at least pass cursory examination). The idea that the GOP gave this random guy $10K to register, then he and they sat around doing not a damn thing is ridiculous - if you were to invest in a spoiler, you generally would work to make sure he spoiled; signing this guy up and then relying on a OMGWTFBBQ scenario is not plausible. Besides, why waste the money? SC wouldn't elect a Democrat if the continued existence of the state depended on it - they are way to anti-American to ever not vote Republican
 
2010-07-19 03:58:39 PM
he needed to delay four more months
 
2010-07-19 03:59:12 PM
phalamir: They would have also probably done at least some work to get their guy elected (and picked someone who at least pass cursory examination). The idea that the GOP gave this random guy $10K to register, then he and they sat around doing not a damn thing is ridiculous - if you were to invest in a spoiler, you generally would work to make sure he spoiled; signing this guy up and then relying on a OMGWTFBBQ scenario is not plausible. Besides, why waste the money? SC wouldn't elect a Democrat if the continued existence of the state depended on it - they are way to anti-American to ever not vote Republican

wasn't this debunked last week? it was money he'd saved, and from his military discharge?
 
2010-07-19 04:01:45 PM
phalamir: demarke: If the Republicans were orchestrating a "spoiler" (and don't you think organizing that many thousands of people would leak somewhere) they would have focused on keeping Vincent Sheheen out of the governor's race in the democratic primary because he could actually win.

They would have also probably done at least some work to get their guy elected (and picked someone who at least pass cursory examination). The idea that the GOP gave this random guy $10K to register, then he and they sat around doing not a damn thing is ridiculous - if you were to invest in a spoiler, you generally would work to make sure he spoiled; signing this guy up and then relying on a OMGWTFBBQ scenario is not plausible. Besides, why waste the money? SC wouldn't elect a Democrat if the continued existence of the state depended on it - they are way to anti-American to ever not vote Republican


Not a birfer, but someone in SC that accepts ballot nominations needs to be better at math. Greene will be 34 at his seating in the Senate if he wins.
 
2010-07-19 04:08:34 PM
I still can't figure out what the hell is going on here. It's fascinating.
 
2010-07-19 04:09:19 PM
Has it been proven that this guy isn't from 4chan or something? I mean really, bobbleheads?
 
2010-07-19 04:09:41 PM
g4lt: phalamir: demarke: If the Republicans were orchestrating a "spoiler" (and don't you think organizing that many thousands of people would leak somewhere) they would have focused on keeping Vincent Sheheen out of the governor's race in the democratic primary because he could actually win.

They would have also probably done at least some work to get their guy elected (and picked someone who at least pass cursory examination). The idea that the GOP gave this random guy $10K to register, then he and they sat around doing not a damn thing is ridiculous - if you were to invest in a spoiler, you generally would work to make sure he spoiled; signing this guy up and then relying on a OMGWTFBBQ scenario is not plausible. Besides, why waste the money? SC wouldn't elect a Democrat if the continued existence of the state depended on it - they are way to anti-American to ever not vote Republican

Not a birfer, but someone in SC that accepts ballot nominations needs to be better at math. Greene will be 34 at his seating in the Senate if he wins.


He only needs to be 30.
 
2010-07-19 04:10:50 PM
Biness: heavymetal: The more I hear about this guy the more I think he would be a better senator than the 100 people currently serving.

its not quite 100. some of them are women.


Simone de Beauvoir sees what you did there...

/and she is not amused
//cause she is dead
 
2010-07-19 04:12:47 PM
g4lt: Not a birfer, but someone in SC that accepts ballot nominations needs to be better at math. Greene will be 34 at his seating in the Senate if he wins.

You mean kinda like Senator Patrick Leahy? Link (new window)

I don't get where you're going with this.
 
2010-07-19 04:15:02 PM
lennavan: g4lt: Not a birfer, but someone in SC that accepts ballot nominations needs to be better at math. Greene will be 34 at his seating in the Senate if he wins.

You mean kinda like Senator Patrick Leahy? Link (new window)

I don't get where you're going with this.


if Leahy's 30, I'll eat my hat
 
2010-07-19 04:16:41 PM
g4lt: lennavan: g4lt: Not a birfer, but someone in SC that accepts ballot nominations needs to be better at math. Greene will be 34 at his seating in the Senate if he wins.

You mean kinda like Senator Patrick Leahy? Link (new window)

I don't get where you're going with this.

if Leahy's 30, I'll eat my hat


He was 34 when he started too. Needless to say he isn't anymore.
 
2010-07-19 04:34:50 PM
TwistedIvory: I love Fox News' graphics:

It's like the US is bleeding socialism.


WTF did they do to Michigan in that map?

Is FAUX News proposing cementing over the great lakes?
 
2010-07-19 04:35:13 PM
I'm from South Carolina and can tell you how Al Greene was elected - his name was listed first on the ballot. It's just that simple...
 
2010-07-19 04:36:46 PM
ghostfart: While this is not an angle of the story that national news media ran, a few local news outlets asked voters why they voted for Alvin Greene. The answer was, he was the black candidate.
Both Alvin Greene and Vic Rawl are Black.


I thought that had been debunked - Greene didn't have any pics out, so nobody knew he was Black?.

/My theory: really low turnout + a few people voting for crazy or random reasons = WTF outcome
//Alternative theory: Most people vote against rather than for candidates. Maybe people voted for the unknown Greene just because he wasn't Rawl
 
2010-07-19 04:37:11 PM
Am I the only one getting a Velvet Jones vibe from this guy?

img.snlarc.jt.org
 
2010-07-19 04:53:07 PM
ghostfart: Both Alvin Greene and Vic Rawl are Black.

Vic Rawl. He's Black.

www.vicrawl.com
 
2010-07-19 05:06:06 PM
In his Boobies-primary interview he did a brief spot with a local radio talk show host. If you can find the audio it's worth a listen. Pure gold. One of the thing he said was that he would look forward to debating Jim DeMint. Anyone familiar with the two candidates knows what a disaster/great source of entertainment that would be.

Watching the guy in an interview is just painful.
 
2010-07-19 05:07:16 PM
KudaMuda: In his Boobies-primary interview ...

Ahem. That should read 'p=o=s=t' not post.
 
2010-07-19 05:14:52 PM
I figure Vic Rawls wasn't too popular, so the 'anybody but Rawls' crowd showed up and the Rawls crowd didn't bother to vote.

Either that or the Dems figured neither had a chance and decided to at least make the election entertaining.
 
2010-07-19 05:22:50 PM
I laugh at the theory that blacks voted for Greene because he was the black candidate.. when NO ONE in the entire state of South Carolina, except people he knows and is related to, KNEW he was black until AFTER he won. He did NO campaigning. He was never on TV for any reason until he won.

Bottom line is the election was rigged by the Republicans and the state did nothing about it. There were figures that in some counties, Greene had more votes for him than were actually cast IN TOTAL. Yet, when an investigation was done, the election commission (or whomever was in charge of investigating) just ignored those facts. A lot of people blamed the voting machines for this glitch... and it was no malfunction. Obviously the Democrats think they can get more mileage out of this clown in November because of the national press he is receiving (and free publicity) than actually blowing the whistle on probably the most corrupt election since the alleged Bush/Florida fiasco in 2000.
 
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